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October 08, 2015, 09:15:49 AM |
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So at the end..What we have?  ) i have really mixed mind  .How will this project goes?  why aren't you happy with what you (already) got ? There is no reason that the new newer newest code should be open sourced right away. * There is a time to brag and be happy about ourselves... * There is a time to release... guess I am rather stuck on point 1 for the moment
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October 08, 2015, 11:24:27 AM Last edit: October 08, 2015, 11:42:03 AM by sp_ |
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You will wait until your lyra2v2 kernal is not profitable anymore, and then you release it. Just like you did with Neoscrypt. Similar to to the Bitcoin ASIC producers. They will produce, mine and then sell the used ASIC's before the profit is gone. In the end the small miners will always loose.. Closed source fee based miner with a small fee. (2%) to cover the developmentcosts could work.. But gpl licencing could make this alot of work for only 2% To earn anything the kernals needs to be the fastest in the world.. (alot of work 
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October 08, 2015, 12:16:37 PM |
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You will wait until your lyra2v2 kernal is not profitable anymore, and then you release it. Just like you did with Neoscrypt.
sorry but neoscrypt was available on subscription and yes I waited to open source the code so that people who made a donation can enjoy the advantage for which they donated (it is a bit strange that you forgot that in your comment... but hey...  ) It is may-be time you realize that I don't release algo for you (may-be if you were giving a dev fee to people from which you outsource your code...  )
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October 08, 2015, 12:53:44 PM |
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The only solution is a completely new, closed source, fee-based miner with completely new kernels written in isolation from the specs. The resulting binaries would further need to be copy protected to dissuade reverse-engineering and binary patching. How many people do you think would trust that? Not necessarily. My miner is moving towards being fully data-driven and so far everything is either MIT or zlib. In theory I would be fully for zlib but for a reason or the other I ended up with MIT. So there is (will be) full source accessibility, ability to rebuild privately, fully legal to redistribute as the kernels can be plugged in as you plug in a new map in a game. To be completely honest the whole point of this message is to ask you to take a look at the license.txt file I've used as I'm only about 99% sure it's compliant right now.
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October 08, 2015, 01:00:38 PM |
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The only solution is a completely new, closed source, fee-based miner with completely new kernels written in isolation from the specs. The resulting binaries would further need to be copy protected to dissuade reverse-engineering and binary patching. How many people do you think would trust that? Not necessarily. My miner is moving towards being fully data-driven and so far everything is either MIT or zlib. In theory I would be fully for zlib but for a reason or the other I ended up with MIT. So there is (will be) full source accessibility, ability to rebuild privately, fully legal to redistribute as the kernels can be plugged in as you plug in a new map in a game. To be completely honest the whole point of this message is to ask you to take a look at the license.txt file I've used as I'm only about 99% sure it's compliant right now. can you incorporate a miner fee in the kernel? I guess not... nor you can avoid someone remove the whole fee code in the miner because it's opensource...
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October 08, 2015, 06:38:52 PM |
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Can I run ccminer to solo mining on wallet with getblocktemplate rpc only (without getwork) ?
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October 08, 2015, 10:24:35 PM |
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Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region?
Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
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October 08, 2015, 10:33:47 PM |
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Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region?
Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
I think you know the answer. Why do you ask?
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October 08, 2015, 10:37:17 PM |
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Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region?
Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
I think you know the answer. Why do you ask? I'm mostly curious about the significance of regional differences. So should I wait for the 980/980Ti cards to decrease in price or should I just stuck with the prices I'm given.
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October 08, 2015, 10:45:22 PM |
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Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region? Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
I think you know the answer. Why do you ask? I'm mostly curious about the significance of regional differences. So should I wait for the 980/980Ti cards to decrease in price or should I just stuck with the prices I'm given. Mine and dump etherum(the donut coin) with the slow public kernals... works everywhere, and still profitable.... 
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October 08, 2015, 10:55:07 PM |
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Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region? Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
I think you know the answer. Why do you ask? I'm mostly curious about the significance of regional differences. So should I wait for the 980/980Ti cards to decrease in price or should I just stuck with the prices I'm given. Mine and dump etherum(the donut coin) with the slow public kernals... works everywhere, and still profitable.... Ethereum was only profitable for exactly 2 days for me and even then only on paper since I have windows rigs and Genoil's windows miner had (and probably still have) significant issues with the dagger file with 750 Ti cards.
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October 08, 2015, 10:59:35 PM |
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Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region? Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
I think you know the answer. Why do you ask? I'm mostly curious about the significance of regional differences. So should I wait for the 980/980Ti cards to decrease in price or should I just stuck with the prices I'm given. Mine and dump etherum(the donut coin) with the slow public kernals... works everywhere, and still profitable.... Ethereum was only profitable for exactly 2 days for me and even then only on paper since I have windows rigs and Genoil's windows miner had (and probably still have) significant issues with the dagger file with 750 Ti cards. Yes. you seem to have inside information. No 750ti card need to load the dagger file... I leave it to the hungry radeon farms. Free lunch
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October 08, 2015, 11:18:20 PM |
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Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region? Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
I think you know the answer. Why do you ask? I'm mostly curious about the significance of regional differences. So should I wait for the 980/980Ti cards to decrease in price or should I just stuck with the prices I'm given. Mine and dump etherum(the donut coin) with the slow public kernals... works everywhere, and still profitable.... Ethereum was only profitable for exactly 2 days for me and even then only on paper since I have windows rigs and Genoil's windows miner had (and probably still have) significant issues with the dagger file with 750 Ti cards. Yes. you seem to have inside information. No 750ti card need to load the dagger file... I leave it to the hungry radeon farms. Free lunch Insider? https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/878455/cuda-programming-and-performance/gtx750ti-and-buffers-gt-1gb-on-win7/
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October 08, 2015, 11:23:19 PM |
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Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region? Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
I think you know the answer. Why do you ask? I'm mostly curious about the significance of regional differences. So should I wait for the 980/980Ti cards to decrease in price or should I just stuck with the prices I'm given. Mine and dump etherum(the donut coin) with the slow public kernals... works everywhere, and still profitable.... Ethereum was only profitable for exactly 2 days for me and even then only on paper since I have windows rigs and Genoil's windows miner had (and probably still have) significant issues with the dagger file with 750 Ti cards. Yes. you seem to have inside information. No 750ti card need to load the dagger file... I leave it to the hungry radeon farms. Free lunch Insider? https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/878455/cuda-programming-and-performance/gtx750ti-and-buffers-gt-1gb-on-win7/Exactly. Why do youy want to waste a 750ti to mine ether when you can double the profit mining something else...
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October 08, 2015, 11:26:35 PM |
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Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region? Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
I think you know the answer. Why do you ask? I'm mostly curious about the significance of regional differences. So should I wait for the 980/980Ti cards to decrease in price or should I just stuck with the prices I'm given. Mine and dump etherum(the donut coin) with the slow public kernals... works everywhere, and still profitable.... Ethereum was only profitable for exactly 2 days for me and even then only on paper since I have windows rigs and Genoil's windows miner had (and probably still have) significant issues with the dagger file with 750 Ti cards. Yes. you seem to have inside information. No 750ti card need to load the dagger file... I leave it to the radeon farms. Free lunch Inside information? No, I'm a solominer in every translation of the term and even though I've tried to gather a handful of reputable miners to form a coalition of miners multiple times (look a few hundred pages back, lol) for the sole purpose of sharing the most profitable coins/algos, it never gained any momentum so I'm as alone as I could ever be. I just simply spend way too much time on researching coins.
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October 08, 2015, 11:53:28 PM |
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Granted, I had a few but I have to say I'm completely lost sp_ if your comments were aimed at me as I have no idea what you meant by them.
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October 08, 2015, 11:58:18 PM |
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Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region? Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
I just simply spend way too much time on researching coins.
I have to agree with the 970. 85% of the performance of a 980 at 70% of the price. The 750ti may be a little more power efficient, similarly priced and notably better performing on lyra2v2 as the 970, but the 750ti requires more than twice the PC HW to support the same hash rate. Whether you spend too much time depends on how much profit you make.
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October 09, 2015, 12:11:42 AM |
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Granted, I had a few but I have to say I'm completely lost sp_ if your comments were aimed at me as I have no idea what you meant by them.
nah. My bad. This forum is full of shit. I'm always open to non-shit conversations. Other than that, the 'Ignore' button is a great tool to make this forum a tiny bit better. Whether you spend too much time depends on how much profit you make.
I say 'too much' based on how much hardware I have at my disposal, which is currently not much (~3kWh).
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October 09, 2015, 12:22:00 AM |
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Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region? Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
I think you know the answer. Why do you ask? I'm mostly curious about the significance of regional differences. So should I wait for the 980/980Ti cards to decrease in price or should I just stuck with the prices I'm given. Mine and dump etherum(the donut coin) with the slow public kernals... works everywhere, and still profitable.... Ethereum was only profitable for exactly 2 days for me and even then only on paper since I have windows rigs and Genoil's windows miner had (and probably still have) significant issues with the dagger file with 750 Ti cards. Yes. you seem to have inside information. No 750ti card need to load the dagger file... I leave it to the radeon farms. Free lunch Inside information? No, I'm a solominer in every translation of the term and even though I've tried to gather a handful of reputable miners to form a coalition of miners multiple times (look a few hundred pages back, lol) for the sole purpose of sharing the most profitable coins/algos, it never gained any momentum so I'm as alone as I could ever be. I just simply spend way too much time on researching coins. explain to me what your idea is bathrobehero ... im interested in diversifying - but dont have very much support on my end either ... though my ideas are not taken 'kindly' by some due to their pockets not being filled 'immediately' instead of long term ... thefarm is growing - and i am interested in hearing what else can be done with some of the assets i have at my disposal ... a coalition was something i wanted to get together for so long - yet greed posses most ... some have the unfortunate and inevitable issues with keeping afloat due to the massive expenses that are accrued when maintaining a mining system ( let alone an enterprise ) ... pm me if you will - or post here ... but i am interested in what your idea is for this coalition and what it will attain in the long term ... which is where i always aim - long term ... #crysx
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October 09, 2015, 12:33:54 AM |
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Granted, I had a few but I have to say I'm completely lost sp_ if your comments were aimed at me as I have no idea what you meant by them.
nah. My bad. This forum is full of shit. I'm always open to non-shit conversations. Other than that, the 'Ignore' button is a great tool to make this forum a tiny bit better. Whether you spend too much time depends on how much profit you make.
I say 'too much' based on how much hardware I have at my disposal, which is currently not much (~3kWh). there is that talk of 'profitability' ... i look at in a very different way - and ive stated before - when you sit crypto with fiat and compare them side by side - that form of 'profitability' flies out the proverbial window ... im ALWAYS profitable - because my OUTLOOK is different ... it costs me to do anything in life ... so when mining is a project that i undertake - it is something im willing to 'spend' ( or lose - depending on which way you look at this ) in order to 'gain' crypto coins ... this means im always profiting in 'coin' rather than fiat ... to that end - its always in a 'profit' with all that i do ... if i were to always compare / convert crypto back to 'fiat' - then im always expending fiat - and the 'profit' everyone talks about ( and it ONLY fiat 'profit' that is ALWAYS referenced ) is non-existent ... the main reason satoshi created this form of 'currency' is to move AWAY from fiat - not continuously compare to it and convert back to it ... another form of payment system - not just a conversion to a 'fiat' system that the governments ( and the puppeteers that control the governments ) completely and utterly control ... so many people lose sight of this ... it is another form exchange for services and products IF the provider of those services / products is willing to accept this form of exchange ... sp thinks 'this forum is full of shit' ... well - that tells tales in no uncertain terms of the status quo ... at least to me anyway ... anyway - back to work for me ... #crysx
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