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*twiddles thumbs waiting for the Zcash launch*
*watches $60,000 worth of Zcoin volume getting funneled into botnets and AWS instances*
*whistles*
Still no idea why people implement CPU coins in this day and age. If it's not dominated by botnets, it's dominated by AWS instances.
Because of either; laziness, stupidity, lack of understanding of hashing algoritms or most likely because they have a private GPU miner. Unless someone comes up with a very unconventional hashing algoritm that clearly negates the advantages of GPUs, there's zero reason to create a CPU exclusive hashing algo. Even then, botnets are way worse than massive farms (ASICs included). Yup... same can be said about AWS users as well. Handful of people are mining that way and know the ins and outs, so the coins get funneled into a handful of hands... no different then ASICs. YESCRYPT-- There is a Yescrypt GPU miner. It is slower than the CPU miner on a modern CPU (i7, etc). Mining with the GPU uses more energy for less hash. --scryptr
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October 27, 2016, 04:55:47 PM |
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zcash: I get 19 Sol on the gainward 1060 3GB with a small edit to the tromp kernel.
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October 27, 2016, 04:57:10 PM |
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I get 19 Sol on the 1060 3GB with a small edit to the tromp kernel.
You have a problem with 50% max tdp ? .
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October 27, 2016, 04:58:43 PM |
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You have a problem with 50% max tdp ? .
yes. Using only 40% TDP 19 sol@40 watt
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October 27, 2016, 05:00:29 PM |
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I've tested most of the NV chips with ocminer's miner , and all of them are working on 50-60% tdp. Should be optimized much...
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October 27, 2016, 05:33:24 PM |
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I've tested most of the NV chips with ocminer's miner , and all of them are working on 50-60% tdp. Should be optimized much...
this mean that the speed should be like 50 for a 1070 at the very least
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October 27, 2016, 05:39:42 PM |
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I got the 10603gb to do 20Sol. @40 watt Getting ready to harvest ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 27, 2016, 05:41:32 PM |
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this mean that the speed should be like 50 for a 1070 at the very least
Not really. Most of the time is used to wait for the memory reads to finish. Zcash could be good in duial mining with another coin.
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October 27, 2016, 07:47:53 PM |
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this mean that the speed should be like 50 for a 1070 at the very least
Not really. Most of the time is used to wait for the memory reads to finish. Zcash could be good in duial mining with another coin. CPU 3770 make 10
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October 27, 2016, 08:46:56 PM Last edit: October 27, 2016, 10:00:49 PM by antantti |
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this mean that the speed should be like 50 for a 1070 at the very least
Not really. Most of the time is used to wait for the memory reads to finish. Zcash could be good in duial mining with another coin. CPU 3770 make 10 You are doing something wrong, even my ivy bridge i7 laptop does 8 with -t 2. Any cpu with avx support matches nvidia gpu performance on zcash today, don't know about tomorrow. Will this algo be like cryptonight for nvidia? I mean after 30 months it still runs at tdp of 60-70% hardware limited.
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October 27, 2016, 10:38:15 PM |
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this mean that the speed should be like 50 for a 1070 at the very least
Not really. Most of the time is used to wait for the memory reads to finish. Zcash could be good in duial mining with another coin. CPU 3770 make 10 You are doing something wrong, even my ivy bridge i7 laptop does 8 with -t 2. Any cpu with avx support matches nvidia gpu performance on zcash today, don't know about tomorrow. Will this algo be like cryptonight for nvidia? I mean after 30 months it still runs at tdp of 60-70% hardware limited. CURRENTLY MINING CRYPTONIGHT AND ZCASH-- I am currently mining Zcash in my Win 7 x64 computer, and CryptoNight with my 750ti rig. The NiceHash binary conveniently miines with both CPU and a CUDA GPU concurrently. For me, it means that I switched my Win 7 box from CryptoNight to Zcash; and I was mining CryptoNight with both my i7 2600 CPU and my 980ti. If Zcash does not yield as much BTC as CryptoNight, I am switching back. The NiceHash "nheqminer.exe" binary does run in a single console window, mining on CPU and GPU at the same time. Convenient! There is much less lag than when mining CryptoNight, also. --scryptr
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October 27, 2016, 11:08:06 PM |
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this mean that the speed should be like 50 for a 1070 at the very least
Not really. Most of the time is used to wait for the memory reads to finish. Zcash could be good in duial mining with another coin. CPU 3770 make 10 You are doing something wrong, even my ivy bridge i7 laptop does 8 with -t 2. Any cpu with avx support matches nvidia gpu performance on zcash today, don't know about tomorrow. Will this algo be like cryptonight for nvidia? I mean after 30 months it still runs at tdp of 60-70% hardware limited. CURRENTLY MINING CRYPTONIGHT AND ZCASH-- I am currently mining Zcash in my Win 7 x64 computer, and CryptoNight with my 750ti rig. The NiceHash binary conveniently miines with both CPU and a CUDA GPU concurrently. For me, it means that I switched my Win 7 box from CryptoNight to Zcash; and I was mining CryptoNight with both my i7 2600 CPU and my 980ti. If Zcash does not yield as much BTC as CryptoNight, I am switching back. The NiceHash "nheqminer.exe" binary does run in a single console window, mining on CPU and GPU at the same time. Convenient! There is much less lag than when mining CryptoNight, also. --scryptr Agree with that, nheqminer is a masterpiece already. 750ti must be doing pretty well, not bad for a 1000 days old low budjet gpu... But will we ever see a day when 900 or 1000 series nvidia is tdp limited when mining equihash?
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October 28, 2016, 05:03:22 AM |
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*twiddles thumbs waiting for the Zcash launch*
*watches $60,000 worth of Zcoin volume getting funneled into botnets and AWS instances*
*whistles*
Still no idea why people implement CPU coins in this day and age. If it's not dominated by botnets, it's dominated by AWS instances.
Because of either; laziness, stupidity, lack of understanding of hashing algoritms or most likely because they have a private GPU miner. Unless someone comes up with a very unconventional hashing algoritm that clearly negates the advantages of GPUs, there's zero reason to create a CPU exclusive hashing algo. Even then, botnets are way worse than massive farms (ASICs included). Yup... same can be said about AWS users as well. Handful of people are mining that way and know the ins and outs, so the coins get funneled into a handful of hands... no different then ASICs. YESCRYPT-- There is a Yescrypt GPU miner. It is slower than the CPU miner on a modern CPU (i7, etc). Mining with the GPU uses more energy for less hash. --scryptr Yup, there was plenty of alternatives they could've used... Instead they choose a weird ass version of Lyra that is neither a mature CPU algo or GPU. As far as efficiency for hashrate... GPUs are definitely more efficient then CPUs depending on what algo you're talking about... To that end, ASICs are more efficient then GPUs for the amount of hashrate they make. Neither CPUs nor ASICs are great for coin distribution though as they get funneled to a handful of people. Just as a FYI, Zcash reward buildup is over a month linearly, so mining in the beginning may be next to worthless. Also Ananatti not sure why you're mining Cryptonight... Lbry and specifically Ethereum (especially with duel mining) is earning more.
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October 28, 2016, 05:25:34 AM |
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Few coins will be available in the beginning.. Mining Slow Start : Zcash will be subject to a “Mining Slow Start” meaning that for the first 20,000 blocks there will be a maximum of 12.5 ZEC issued per block in a 2.5 increment. The ZEC issuance curve will ramp up over the 20,000 blocks to the full 12.5 ZEC and the difficulty algorithm will be adjusted as needed. This Slow Start is to prevent “insta-mining” and “fastmining” in the early days of the 1.0 launch and to allow the Zcash team to adjust the ZEC/time algorithm.
Zcash future prices before launch: 1 Zcash (ZEC) could be worth over 5 BTC in the first month of trading. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FCvzPyzLWIAAzvSj.jpg&t=665&c=RkMtH7faRNdwPg)
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October 28, 2016, 05:32:39 AM |
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Few coins will be available in the beginning.. Mining Slow Start : Zcash will be subject to a “Mining Slow Start” meaning that for the first 20,000 blocks there will be a maximum of 12.5 ZEC issued per block in a 2.5 increment. The ZEC issuance curve will ramp up over the 20,000 blocks to the full 12.5 ZEC and the difficulty algorithm will be adjusted as needed. This Slow Start is to prevent “insta-mining” and “fastmining” in the early days of the 1.0 launch and to allow the Zcash team to adjust the ZEC/time algorithm.
Zcash futture prices before launch: Yup, which goes back to those four coins I posted needing work. Zcoin still being something that needs a trash GPU miner that works as well as the CPU miner (doesn't need to be better). Mining Zcash is probably going to be pointless for the next couple weeks, assuming investors know how to look at coin dispersion.
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October 28, 2016, 05:35:13 AM |
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Yup, which goes back to those four coins I posted needing work. Zcoin still being something that needs a trash GPU miner that works as well as the CPU miner (doesn't need to be better). Mining Zcash is probably going to be pointless for the next couple weeks, assuming investors know how to look at coin dispersion.
At the launch date (today) around 300ZCash coins will be mined. with a price of 1BTC per zcash, the pioneer miners will split the 300BTC reward. ($207 000 per day (24hours)) I think it will be profitable to mine from day one.. The total etherum network is currently making around ($343 341) to the miners per day (24hours). If half of the miners switch to zcash, Etherum will be 2x more profitable to mine.
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October 28, 2016, 05:40:05 AM |
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waiting for sp-mod harvester edition
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October 28, 2016, 05:41:03 AM |
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waiting for sp-mod harvester edition
I have reserved around 10 000 SOL's for the launch(20 000kw). Private kernel, private farm.
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Yup, which goes back to those four coins I posted needing work. Zcoin still being something that needs a trash GPU miner that works as well as the CPU miner (doesn't need to be better). Mining Zcash is probably going to be pointless for the next couple weeks, assuming investors know how to look at coin dispersion.
At the launch date (today) around 300ZCash coins will be mined. with a price of 1BTC per zcash, the pioneer miners will split the 300BTC reward. ($207 000 per day (24hours)) I think it will be profitable to mine from day one.. The total etherum network is currently making around ($343 341) to the miners per day (24hours). If half of the miners switch to zcash, Etherum will be 2x more profitable to mine. I'm not sure I buy Zcash being worth 1BTC a piece in a month. There is a lot of hype riding on this coin, but there has been a lot of hype riding on other coins and they crap out too. Lbry being one of them. I don't believe in speculation till I see it happen. You've been around the mining scene about as long as I have, you should know a lot of coins don't make it anywhere close to what they're supposed to be.
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