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Thats why I like the 10603gb cards bether than the 1070. I get 23 sol/s on the 1060 with only 43 watt. Compare it to claymores the 280x use 250.watt and.produce 45 sol. I do 133 sol with the same watt.
I can't speak for the 280, but my 270x cards are giving 38Sol and drawing well under their 150w design (probably 100w usage) So by your numbers, the 1060 (@$400) is barely better than a used 270x for $70. The price of a 1060 (23sol / 43w) you can have 5-270x cards (180sol / ~500w) 1060 3gb is cheaper than 400 bucks. I mined with 10000 sol the first week of the zcash lunch with only 23sol per card. Zcash price before claymore: 1-8 btc per coin Zcash price after claymore(today) 0.35btc
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November 08, 2016, 04:25:32 AM |
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still waiting for your lbry v4...
The value of LBRY is going down. The fee will not cover my expenses.
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November 08, 2016, 04:45:53 AM |
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If somebody port the silent army kernel to cuda I will take a look and optimize.
you just need this ported to cuda and then we'll have a NVIDIA optimized ZEC miner? https://github.com/mbevand/silentarmy/blob/master/input.clIs there a youtube video or something I can watch and do it? Sort of joking... sort of not ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 08, 2016, 05:11:37 AM |
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still waiting for your lbry v4...
The value of LBRY is going down. The fee will not cover my expenses. What are your expenses? You already programmed #4. You already received payment through dev fees. Nothing you're saying makes sense dude. Dev fees literally are there for continued support. You provided none of it. You use a one time fee for a product you're selling that's complete. You use a progressive fee like a dev fee as a 'pay it forward' towards future updates. As I've mentioned though Lbry hasn't been worth mining for some time now.
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I buy private Nvidia miners. Send information and/or inquiries to my PM box.
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November 08, 2016, 06:21:55 AM |
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What are your expenses? You already programmed #4. You already received payment through dev fees. Nothing you're saying makes sense dude. Dev fees literally are there for continued support. You provided none of it.
You use a one time fee for a product you're selling that's complete. You use a progressive fee like a dev fee as a 'pay it forward' towards future updates.
As I've mentioned though Lbry hasn't been worth mining for some time now.
#4 has a 20% boost on the gtx 1060. I like to keep this boost in my private farm.. we'll see what I do. The fee code need some bugfixes and improvements, and I have little time to do the job at the moment..
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November 08, 2016, 06:26:57 AM Last edit: November 08, 2016, 09:23:16 AM by sp_ |
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Porting it is the start. Running the opencl code as it is only give me 15 sol on the 1060 3gb, so a big rewrite is needed.
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November 08, 2016, 06:51:56 AM |
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Any tahiti can do 40-50 sols/s.
But what power consumption? The cost of the card is not nearly as important as how much it draws. Power consumption hasn't mattered in close to a year due to income per card. You'd have to have some pretty expensive power for it to be up there. Closest it was to power usage was before Zcash launch, but even then it was only (for me) 30% of my revenue. January before all the new algos took off was really bad, but that was a long time ago. Power draw might matter again this January after Ethereum is dead, but a decent amount can happen between then and now. The cost of the power a card will use thru its life will likely be more than its value. For sure much more than its cost minus the resale price. Hence the power usage matters more than the buying cost. i'm with this completely, not to mention that for a brand new generation card, the retail value at which you will sell it, it's always around 80% of their original value, and mining does not matter here i mean even if all coins will be dead new generation card will always retain 80% of their value
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November 08, 2016, 12:21:41 PM Last edit: November 08, 2016, 12:48:39 PM by Nikolaj |
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LBRY is +14% today with sp-mod private #3 you make $2,4 a day with the gtx 1070 (300MHASH) $3.2 on the gtx 1080 (400MHASH)
You should mine and donate so I can release #4 with more hash and bugfixes...
Your private Lbry mod does 300 Mh/s per 1070? Epsylon3's 1.8.1 release does the same. With optimal settings release #3 does 322. never achieved 322 even with an amp extreme.. 305 max, more or less. If you take into account a 3.3% fee/+0.4/0.8% reconnection issue with lost/invalid hashrate, from 305 we're down to 290. Given that a common 1070 it's working at 290, heavily overclocked, we're talking of 278. Tpruvot 1.8.3 works flawlessly at 290, if not more.. Sorry to say but SP3 it's useless, since the 1.8.3 release, and we'll receive soon 1.8.4. These are founders edition. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xtremeshack.com%2Fphotos%2F20161108147860794272270.JPG&t=665&c=HtEbLInVIyozKg) Thats why I like the 10603gb cards bether than the 1070. I get 23 sol/s on the 1060 with only 43 watt. Compare it to claymores the 280x use 250.watt and.produce 45 sol. I do 133 sol with the same watt.
I can't speak for the 280, but my 270x cards are giving 38Sol and drawing well under their 150w design (probably 100w usage) So by your numbers, the 1060 (@$400) is barely better than a used 270x for $70. The price of a 1060 (23sol / 43w) you can have 5-270x cards (180sol / ~500w) 1060 3gb is cheaper than 400 bucks. I mined with 10000 sol the first week of the zcash lunch with only 23sol per card. Zcash price before claymore: 1-8 btc per coin Zcash price after claymore(today) 0.35btc So you're saying that you've had an hashpower of more than 420 gtx 1060 3gb? I am asking why then you're still here releasing kernels at 0.1 then, you should focus on your farm to do more ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ps: claymore release have nothing to do with the price. The profit ratio was the main issue, given it's initial potential. Ethereum had a similar pattern, less speculative surely but better in the long term. This isn't the case. You all should know that these releases are just a lemon to be squeezed, like your private kernels customers. still waiting for your lbry v4...
The value of LBRY is going down. The fee will not cover my expenses. What are your expenses? You already programmed #4. You already received payment through dev fees. Nothing you're saying makes sense dude. Dev fees literally are there for continued support. You provided none of it.You use a one time fee for a product you're selling that's complete. You use a progressive fee like a dev fee as a 'pay it forward' towards future updates. As I've mentioned though Lbry hasn't been worth mining for some time now. It's called greed, it's good to know that I'm not the only one that thinks that ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) There's nothing worst than loosing the trust of his customers, but .. alea iacta est. He made money with the "donations" and now he's praising himself; to not speaking about mentioning releases (N'4 SPMOD for lbry and SP9+ for spread - I've received SP9, not the plus) never "released", due excuses, to the ones that paid for them, but being utilized in the private farm tht he owns (with 420+ GTX 1060 equivalent hashpower, as he stated). Game over guys.
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November 08, 2016, 12:38:52 PM |
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So you're saying that you've had an hashpower of more than 420 gtx 1060 3gb? I am asking why then you're still here releasing kernels at 0.1 then, you should focus on your farm to do more ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I have more than 100 rigs. 4-7 card each. I've told everybody before I would quit after I did the maxwell mod's. The LBRY sp-mod works best on the maxwell cards. When I released it on the 3rd of september, it was faster on the pascal cards as well. But 3 weeks later, the LBRY team payed a developer to optimize abit for the gtx 1070. And I didn't release #4.
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November 08, 2016, 12:49:26 PM |
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Better this way.
If you quit it would also be better to refund your customers, due your inhability fo fulfill your agreements.
Your reputation, due these bad behaviours, have taken a dive.
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November 08, 2016, 12:49:48 PM |
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600 000 SOL/s already on the ZCL
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November 08, 2016, 12:51:06 PM |
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Better this way. If you quit it would also be better to refund your customers, due your inhability fo fulfill your agreements.
And what is the agreement? That if another coder decide to optimize the opensource, I need to send out another faster version? This is not how private kernels work. My claims are: (LBRY SP-mod #3 released 3 september) LBRY sp-mod #3 vs opensource 1.8.1 Faster compute 5.0 +5-7% (750,750ti,960m) Faster compute 5.2 +10-25% (950,960,970,980,980ti,titanx) Faster compute 6.1 +5-11% (1070,1080) (gtx 1060 0%) But after 1.8.3 came on the 28 sept. I haven't recieved any more donations http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/ccminer-1-8-3/
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November 08, 2016, 12:53:49 PM |
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Better this way. If you quit it would also be better to refund your customers, due your inhability fo fulfill your agreements.
And what is the agreement? That if another coder decide to optimize the opensource, I need to send out another faster version? This is not how private kernels work. My claims are: LBRY sp-mod #3 vs opensource 1.8.1 Faster compute 5.0 +5-7% (750,750ti,960m) Faster compute 5.2 +10-25% (950,960,970,980,980ti,titanx) Faster compute 6.1 +5-11% (1070,1080) (gtx 1060 0%) To keep supporting the ones that paid you. Congrats.. sincerely. Another perfect example of the human nature, "homo homini lupus (est)" What are your expenses? You already programmed #4. You already received payment through dev fees. Nothing you're saying makes sense dude. Dev fees literally are there for continued support. You provided none of it.
You use a one time fee for a product you're selling that's complete. You use a progressive fee like a dev fee as a 'pay it forward' towards future updates.
As I've mentioned though Lbry hasn't been worth mining for some time now.
#4 has a 20% boost on the gtx 1060. I like to keep this boost in my private farm.. we'll see what I do. The fee code need some bugfixes and improvements, and I have little time to do the job at the moment.. Sure, this phrase it's the testament of your greed. I feel scammed from you, as many others.
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November 08, 2016, 12:55:45 PM |
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To keep supporting the ones that paid you.
And after I release #4, the opensource will be optimized by somebody else. And you still loose.
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November 08, 2016, 12:58:07 PM Last edit: November 08, 2016, 01:11:58 PM by Nikolaj |
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To keep supporting the ones that paid you.
And after I release #4, the opensource will be optimized by somebody else. And you still loose. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) No, dear. WE still loose, especially if we pay YOU to keep developing kernels for YOUR farm. Who really losses it's you; 0.2 (didn't remember if I paid you more before, another 0.1 for another kernel..) instead of a potential collaboration in the long term, I am creating a farm in iceland and needed honest devs. You will be totally delisted from my projects, regarding mining and any other venture. Good for you indeed ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Take care, you won't get any more dime from me. As bensam said, your words doesen't make any sense, anymore (like this thread)
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November 08, 2016, 01:16:53 PM |
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Don't understand what the arguing is about.
The way how fast paced all these coins and algorithms are does it really matter that your 1070 is making $3/day or that the 270x uses less than 100Watts.
Whats matters is how these cards will perform in the long term. In 6 months? In 12 months?
Nobody really cares about the ZEC power consumption because who knows if that coins will ever be successful. Same with the LBRY, both these coins are near the all time lows as we speak.
Only coin that has a chance is ETH and probably for maybe 6 more months due to POS. ETC, ZEC, LBRY don't have enough miners revenue to make mining profitable.
Most likely we will all get second hand S9 and A7 by then.
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November 08, 2016, 01:41:42 PM |
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From a miner's perspective, the future success of a coin doesn't matter. If you wanna hold, you'd better buy. Mining is about hashrate and efficiency. Mine and sell: you make more money and you can buy whatever coins you want with that (even non-pow ones).
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November 08, 2016, 01:56:55 PM |
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From a miner's perspective, the future success of a coin doesn't matter. If you wanna hold, you'd better buy. Mining is about hashrate and efficiency. Mine and sell: you make more money and you can buy whatever coins you want with that (even non-pow ones).
it depend, if you have a big farm that can produce tons of coins each day and your mining activity is profitable, it's never better to buy directly buy directly, for holding, it's only good if you want a great amount of coins because you think that alt is going to skyrocket
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November 08, 2016, 02:07:23 PM |
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To keep supporting the ones that paid you.
And after I release #4, the opensource will be optimized by somebody else. And you still loose. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) No, dear. WE still loose, especially if we pay YOU to keep developing kernels for YOUR farm. Who really losses it's you; 0.2 (didn't remember if I paid you more before, another 0.1 for another kernel..) instead of a potential collaboration in the long term, I am creating a farm in iceland and needed honest devs. You will be totally delisted from my projects, regarding mining and any other venture. Good for you indeed ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Take care, you won't get any more dime from me. As bensam said, your words doesen't make any sense, anymore (like this thread) nikolaj - i did this a long time ago ... sp got 'donation' after 'donation' from me - as well as mining - as well as buying private miners - as well as massive amounts of time and effort testing these miners he has released ... and he STILL refuses to fix the spreadminer-spmod9 saying that its good exercise for me to fix his mistakes in the makefile ... come on ... sp - read above mate ... look and learn that the community members that once were behind you 100% - are now totally against you because you have become the ONE thing you said you would never be - one hell of a greedy bastard ... the last couple of months have been great - as we have made leaps and bounds surpassing your hashrates with our miner ... for MONTHS ... you heard right ... ive asked and asked and asked for your help and for the sources / miners you promised - until i gave up ... which is what built that farm you have - completely off our backs ... and you wont even supply us a miner that compiles? ... you have a broken source and you supply that? ... then tell me i need to fix it? ... hehehe ... if that isnt pure and utter gluttony on your part - i dunno what is ... retire - and live off what you make from this farm of yours ... because soon - thefarm and the design and the hashrate - is going to make your look a kiddies toy ... im just waiting for the 1080ti to be released before i bulk buy and build ... btw - did mention a few hundred times already that the spreadminer-spmod9 STILL doesnt compile ... how about supplying a product that works - when we pay for it and boost your farm cashflow ... nikolaj - i would be happy to discuss further developments with you mate ... you sound like an honest hard worker ... let me know - maybe we could do something here ... #crysx
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