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Author Topic: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker  (Read 1651576 times)
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April 11, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
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We're at around 50 Euros on Bitcoin24 now. What do you expect to happen when gox opens? People will hit sell hoping to get a few of the still standing bids with their coins first and it will crash like a stone dropped from a cliff.

Gox closing doesn't seem to help. Some resistance at 100$ could have formed there, this last chance was lost.

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April 11, 2013, 03:29:41 PM
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Last time I checked, the network was up. Blocks were being generated at about 6 per hour.

Yesterday during the crash, I withdrew BTC2000 from Mt.Gox in about 2 minutes. Everything worked perfectly. (Do not assume this was my funds as I do have a lot corporate accounts also.)

My business currently generates about 0.15% return on capital daily. Annualized, that is a mind-boggling 72%. As I keep all my funds in silver and bitcoins, the value appreciation comes on top of that. Very seldom can I generate such a return, my average over 10+ years is 15%.

I can still both buy and sell bitcoins for cash, and not long time ago I made a 26% spread on two €1000+ OTC transactions in 1 hour.

Silvervault opened bitcoin accounts for all its customers. Today's price was 40% lower than yesterday, giving a rather low-risk entry point for 800 investors currently 100,000 ounces long in silver. Silvervault can trade your physical silver for bitcoin for a click of a mouse in 190 countries.

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I think this has been a great week.

I may as well have a weekend effective immediately. If BTCitcoin price somewhere goes to $1 over the weekend so that I can actually buy it (could care less about exchanges that lag or do not allow trading), I will be the first to buy for my entire business income.

If every day I increase my bitcoin holdings by 0.15%, it will take less than 20 years for me to own all the bitcoins.

Sounds like a plan.

Generally, I agree with you rpietila, but MtGox has become a truly serious problem. Every chance they get to make a choice, they either make the wrong one, or they make the right one but so late as to effectively turn it into the wrong one. You have to agree that this bunch of amateurs does somewhat soil the reputation of Bitcoin for those who don't fully understand that Bitcoin isn't just the exchanges or the exchange rate.

If there is a silver lining to all this, it's that with any luck people will start flocking to other exchanges.

If I were Coinlab, Coinbase, BitPay and Bitinstant, I would seriously consider diversifying.
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April 11, 2013, 03:30:58 PM
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BTC China still sitting at ~150 USD/BTC  Tongue
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April 11, 2013, 03:33:10 PM
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The smaller exchanges are tanking...
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April 11, 2013, 03:35:19 PM
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April 11, 2013, 03:35:45 PM
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virtex crashing, could very well be looking at double digit bitcoins very soon!  Cheesy

YUP 92!

its going down fast!

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April 11, 2013, 03:37:50 PM
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I hate people.


lol


btw: btc-e getting busy ... maybe the place to watch? up to 82 atm

edit: yes, btc-china still at 150 but with very low volume
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April 11, 2013, 03:39:13 PM
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The Canadian exchange is at $70 and falling.

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April 11, 2013, 03:40:29 PM
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Can anyone confirm that you can still get USD onto Gox or any other exchange at the moment with Bitinstant?  

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April 11, 2013, 03:41:16 PM
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MtGox.com ‏@MtGox 4h
Maintenance Over however we are now under a DDoS attack.


so why the hell didn't they stop trading?? They just let it go on destroying bitcoin

smells like BS to me, they say yesterday was just normal and today is a ddos? they look just the same to me

Why do people continue to cry for regulation? This is a free market. If you don't like Gox, don't trade there. If enough people don't like Gox, it will be replaced. Foolishly thinking market control is the answer will only end in the failure of bitcoin.

This is not the end of bitcoin. Realize the same actions you're calling for we're the reasons bitcoin was created. We do not need a central authority. We do not need someone to tell us when or how to spend our money. Necessity is the mother of all invention. The current system is not adequate, that is a given. Apply some critical thinking and solve the problem instead of spewing the same brainwashed propaganda.

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April 11, 2013, 03:42:19 PM
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Just got back here; does's Gox still process verifications and transfers or are they burning their hard drives in a trash can?

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April 11, 2013, 03:43:22 PM
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And so the propaganda war begins. Large investors will move small portions of their pots to the smaller exchanges in order to set a high anchor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring , so that when gox gets back on-line they will have enough of a buyer base to sell at the price they want, before a sustained crash to a final floor. I don't recommend people buy at this stage; this isn't the same atmosphere as a week ago- when the potential of wider adoption propped the price up, that potential is gone for the time being.

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April 11, 2013, 03:44:06 PM
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I hate people.


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btw: btc-e getting busy ... maybe the place to watch? up to 82 atm

edit: yes, btc-china still at 150 but with very low volume

btcchina is dead for long time

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April 11, 2013, 03:44:20 PM
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Until Gox opens is obvious that price will crash -> there's no easy and immediate way to send fiat to exchanges, while it is very easy to send BTC.

How do you think the market will react when Gox open? Slow and bumpy recovery or super deep flash-crash?

I have to admit that I could use some below $10 BTC Cheesy

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April 11, 2013, 03:45:16 PM
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We're at around 50 Euros on Bitcoin24 now. What do you expect to happen when gox opens? People will hit sell hoping to get a few of the still standing bids with their coins first and it will crash like a stone dropped from a cliff.

Gox closing doesn't seem to help. Some resistance at 100$ could have formed there, this last chance was lost.

Noob,

PPL have been selling btc to a very limited pool of fiat. Look at the market depth on MtGox. There are far more fiat to substance price of 150.

My guess? as soon as MtGox open, those that bought cheap coins from other exchanges will dump their coins to strong hands on Gox and not moving an inch.
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April 11, 2013, 03:47:03 PM
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I hope it hits $1.00.

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April 11, 2013, 03:47:26 PM
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We're at around 50 Euros on Bitcoin24 now. What do you expect to happen when gox opens? People will hit sell hoping to get a few of the still standing bids with their coins first and it will crash like a stone dropped from a cliff.

Gox closing doesn't seem to help. Some resistance at 100$ could have formed there, this last chance was lost.

Noob,

PPL have been selling btc to a very limited pool of fiat. Look at the market depth on MtGox. There are far more fiat to sustain price of 150.

My guess? as soon as MtGox open, those that bought cheap coins from other exchanges will dump their coins to strong hands on Gox and not moving an inch.


It's true, it will be a good buying opportunity, as are the dipping prices on other exchanges. Buy a couple there, sell them on mtgox into the strong hands that aren't panicing.
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April 11, 2013, 03:48:39 PM
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I hate people.


lol


btw: btc-e getting busy ... maybe the place to watch? up to 82 atm

edit: yes, btc-china still at 150 but with very low volume

btcchina is dead for long time

why do you say that?
there is trades going on, although with very little volume
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April 11, 2013, 03:48:46 PM
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bitstamp is down

bitfloor is endlessly "pending"

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April 11, 2013, 03:49:18 PM
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I hope it hits $1.00.

I will buy for $1 too, if it drops that far.
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