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April 11, 2013, 11:15:35 PM
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Why is the Chinese price higher than the others?

Cool Chinese investors have cooler heads/stronger hands and aren't panicking?
Embarrassed Chinese don't have so many BTC in Gox to pump to other exchanges and sell?
Shocked A huge buy wall is catching all the asks?
Grin Chinese are just more bullish on the price?
Kiss Chinese need BTC for spurious purposes that will work whatever it's current price is?
Huh Something else?

 Tongue It is just now 7AM in Beijing so my guess is they were asleep.  Should start seeing some action start now.
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April 11, 2013, 11:22:12 PM
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Why is the Chinese price higher than the others?

Cool Chinese investors have cooler heads/stronger hands and aren't panicking?
Embarrassed Chinese don't have so many BTC in Gox to pump to other exchanges and sell?
Shocked A huge buy wall is catching all the asks?
Grin Chinese are just more bullish on the price?
Kiss Chinese need BTC for spurious purposes that will work whatever it's current price is?
Huh Something else?

 Tongue It is just now 7AM in Beijing so my guess is they were asleep.  Should start seeing some action start now.

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April 11, 2013, 11:25:09 PM
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What the hell is suddenly causing all the exchanges to rise?!

I totally missed it because btccharts was down for like 30 minutes before I noticed.

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April 11, 2013, 11:26:54 PM
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What the hell is suddenly causing all the exchanges to rise?!

I'm guessing some fiat money is clearing from people who wanted to buy cheap coins but didn't have fiat on the exchanges.

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April 11, 2013, 11:27:55 PM
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What the hell is suddenly causing all the exchanges to rise?!

I'm guessing some fiat money is clearing from people who wanted to buy cheap coins but didn't have fiat on the exchanges.

On 4 exchanges simultaneously? This is so weird.

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April 11, 2013, 11:28:30 PM
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What the hell is suddenly causing all the exchanges to rise?!

I'm guessing some fiat money is clearing from people who wanted to buy cheap coins but didn't have fiat on the exchanges.

that and the anticipation of the magical Gox rocket getting ready for blast off!

T - 1hour and 30mins

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Last edit: April 11, 2013, 11:52:02 PM by thoughtfan
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What the hell is suddenly causing all the exchanges to rise?!

I totally missed it because btccharts was down for like 30 minutes before I noticed.
That there wasn't really a fundamental cause for the price to fall so in the first place?
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April 11, 2013, 11:29:01 PM
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April 11, 2013, 11:34:12 PM
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What the hell is suddenly causing all the exchanges to rise?!

I totally missed it because btccharts was down for like 30 minutes before I noticed.
That there wasn't really a fundamental cause for the price to fall so in the first place?

Seriously, people selling coins at $50 was a bit out there.

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April 11, 2013, 11:40:47 PM
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What the hell is suddenly causing all the exchanges to rise?!

I totally missed it because btccharts was down for like 30 minutes before I noticed.
That there wasn't really a fundamental cause for the price to fall so far in the first place?

Seriously, people selling coins at $50 was a bit out there.


I concur. Once the idiots realized they were just being panicky idiots, they started buying again... only problem is, once you've sold at $50, it's a little too late  Grin Grin Grin It'll be a while before they see gains again.
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April 11, 2013, 11:42:57 PM
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It's getting around that time when it crashes...


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April 11, 2013, 11:45:25 PM
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What the hell is suddenly causing all the exchanges to rise?!

I totally missed it because btccharts was down for like 30 minutes before I noticed.
That there wasn't really a fundamental cause for the price to fall so far in the first place?

Seriously, people selling coins at $50 was a bit out there.


I concur. Once the idiots realized they were just being panicky idiots, they started buying again... only problem is, once you've sold at $50, it's a little too late  Grin Grin Grin It'll be a while before they see gains again.

Please stop living in 1 hour timeframes, this is an obvious bull trap. When Gox opens we are going sub $50 for at least 3 days, give or take some wild volatility.
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April 11, 2013, 11:46:57 PM
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i saw some little trades come up on gox ..


0.03   9 minutes ago   124.90
mtgox   0.11   9 minutes ago   124.80
mtgox   0.20   9 minutes ago   124.00
mtgox   40.87   9 minutes ago    123.40

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April 11, 2013, 11:47:25 PM
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Why is BTC-e still so high?
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April 11, 2013, 11:48:55 PM
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To people wondering what is actually happening in this thread:

Suckers trying to convince other suckers to buy back in so that they can dump. The goal is to actually turn this around but they will settle for dumping.
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April 11, 2013, 11:49:59 PM
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What the hell is suddenly causing all the exchanges to rise?!

I totally missed it because btccharts was down for like 30 minutes before I noticed.
That there wasn't really a fundamental cause for the price to fall so far in the first place?

Seriously, people selling coins at $50 was a bit out there.


I concur. Once the idiots realized they were just being panicky idiots, they started buying again... only problem is, once you've sold at $50, it's a little too late  Grin Grin Grin It'll be a while before they see gains again.

Please stop living in 1 hour timeframes, this is an obvious bull trap. When Gox opens we are going sub $50 for at least 3 days, give or take some wild volatility.

I'm not so sure, the price was going up from $120 before Gox pulled the plug. And the other exchanges are now recovering that the most-panic-y people have sold.

If the other exchanges are back to $120 when Gox opens, it's going up from there IMHO.

What does everyone else think?

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April 11, 2013, 11:51:50 PM
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What the hell is suddenly causing all the exchanges to rise?!

I totally missed it because btccharts was down for like 30 minutes before I noticed.
That there wasn't really a fundamental cause for the price to fall so far in the first place?

Seriously, people selling coins at $50 was a bit out there.


I concur. Once the idiots realized they were just being panicky idiots, they started buying again... only problem is, once you've sold at $50, it's a little too late  Grin Grin Grin It'll be a while before they see gains again.

Please stop living in 1 hour timeframes, this is an obvious bull trap. When Gox opens we are going sub $50 for at least 3 days, give or take some wild volatility.

I'm not so sure, the price was going up from $120 before Gox pulled the plug. And the other exchanges are now recovering that the most-panic-y people have sold.

If the other exchanges are back to $120 when Gox opens, it's going up from there IMHO.

What does everyone else think?

The manipulator has woken up.
Will be interesting if he does it upwards.


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April 11, 2013, 11:52:11 PM
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What the hell is suddenly causing all the exchanges to rise?!

I totally missed it because btccharts was down for like 30 minutes before I noticed.
That there wasn't really a fundamental cause for the price to fall so in the first place?

Edit:  I'll elaborate because I've been pondering this one and would appreciate your thoughts on my analysis/hypothesis/fantasy of what happened and why:

From recollection there was an ask sum of around $16 million USD just prior to the collapse.  Despite this the heavy volume of trading didn't kick in until it first looked like the dip was bottoming out so I'm going to hazard a guess that much of that ask depth (well as much as could be managed given MtGox technical limitations) was removed as the price was plummeting therefore it didn't need much panic or speculative selling to drive the price down pretty low.  There was then an immense amount of buying at the first mini recovery until it became obvious for whatever reasons the bears weren't done yet so once again buyers stepped back and withdrew to watch and see how low it was going to go.  With MtGox as (to date) the main price driver out of action there was no need to rush, no need to be afraid to miss the boat on buying back in and also it probably took some time to reassess how they judge the current market, many for the first time looking at prices over multiple exchanges prior to deciding how to play it.

So a relative few in number with not an enormous amount of money had never seen the market go down and had bought stupid only to lose their nerve as soon as it looked like a serious downturn.  This was exacerbated by a combination of bitcoin-flush speculators who have been waiting for a decent scalping opportunity for some time and the lack of a realistic margin market that could have calmed the waters.  Then there's the whole trading blind thing which I'm guessing meant loads of people have simply stayed out and watched relatively few people take the market a very long way.

I would like this to serve as a lesson to all who come to Bitcoin for the first time in the forthcoming months and for those who were in the MtGox verification queue that the market can fall too and subsequently will be a bit less rash with their purchasing.  This should mean however long it takes before we pass where we were at peak yesterday (I'd be more surprised if it were very slow than very fast) the set of circumstances that led to this are unlikely to happen to the same degree again Smiley
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April 11, 2013, 11:53:23 PM
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If the other exchanges are back to $120 when Gox opens, it's going up from there IMHO.

What does everyone else think?

Volatility between $150 and $15. (ok not everybody, most people are still in shock)
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1 hour?
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