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April 18, 2016, 04:37:07 PM
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Great strategy! Handle the lawsuit for them so it never actually gets filed!

The best part is that ubershill MrCoins is literally posting "check out gawsuit.com for updates"

...even though it hasn't been updated in two months, and the last update in February was a rehash with no real progress because Shinners said people kept emailing him.

Paul Revere laid it out months ago, but what Shinners is saying now condemns the gawsuit completely (even after leaving out Mordica). He's actually claiming that a "secret" law firm has agreed to take this case on a contingency basis, a case in which they are solely relying on Shinner for everything.

This is not how things actually work. No law firm is ever going to show up in court with a stack of affidavits all provided by a single guy who has assiduously maintained a total separation between the lawyers and their actual clients.

The rules about affidavits are somewhat lax and but what Shinners is doing here constitutes a clear-cut ethical violation. No reputable lawyer would even consider touching it, and less-than-reputable lawyers would insist on at least being paid first.

That's before we get into the obvious fact that any law firm looking at this is going to conclude that the judgment will be unrecoverable. Shinners isn't remotely the only one suing Josh for his never-ending cons, and the claims that Shinners knows where the money is sounds like a tall-tale anyway.

I don't know what the angle is, it simply might just be that Shinner is a gigantic blowhard convinced of his self-importance who made this all up to simply make himself feel powerful and respected after he lost a fortune with Josh, but this whole thing is a fake, whatever the reason.


Shinner is posting "SoonTM" about the gawsuit!

Doesn't anyone involved recognize that tactic, at this point?
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April 18, 2016, 06:45:39 PM
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Great strategy! Handle the lawsuit for them so it never actually gets filed!

The best part is that ubershill MrCoins is literally posting "check out gawsuit.com for updates"

...even though it hasn't been updated in two months, and the last update in February was a rehash with no real progress because Shinners said people kept emailing him.

Paul Revere laid it out months ago, but what Shinners is saying now condemns the gawsuit completely (even after leaving out Mordica). He's actually claiming that a "secret" law firm has agreed to take this case on a contingency basis, a case in which they are solely relying on Shinner for everything.

This is not how things actually work. No law firm is ever going to show up in court with a stack of affidavits all provided by a single guy who has assiduously maintained a total separation between the lawyers and their actual clients.

The rules about affidavits are somewhat lax and but what Shinners is doing here constitutes a clear-cut ethical violation. No reputable lawyer would even consider touching it, and less-than-reputable lawyers would insist on at least being paid first.

That's before we get into the obvious fact that any law firm looking at this is going to conclude that the judgment will be unrecoverable. Shinners isn't remotely the only one suing Josh for his never-ending cons, and the claims that Shinners knows where the money is sounds like a tall-tale anyway.

I don't know what the angle is, it simply might just be that Shinner is a gigantic blowhard convinced of his self-importance who made this all up to simply make himself feel powerful and respected after he lost a fortune with Josh, but this whole thing is a fake, whatever the reason.


Shinner is posting "SoonTM" about the gawsuit!

Doesn't anyone involved recognize that tactic, at this point?

Shimmer's Bitlend.io is also shutting down.

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April 18, 2016, 07:03:18 PM
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Shimmer's Bitlend.io is also shutting down.

what a big surprise. literally everything those leeches touched was bound to fail

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April 19, 2016, 05:56:08 AM
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Great strategy! Handle the lawsuit for them so it never actually gets filed!

The best part is that ubershill MrCoins is literally posting "check out gawsuit.com for updates"

...even though it hasn't been updated in two months, and the last update in February was a rehash with no real progress because Shinners said people kept emailing him.

Paul Revere laid it out months ago, but what Shinners is saying now condemns the gawsuit completely (even after leaving out Mordica). He's actually claiming that a "secret" law firm has agreed to take this case on a contingency basis, a case in which they are solely relying on Shinner for everything.

This is not how things actually work. No law firm is ever going to show up in court with a stack of affidavits all provided by a single guy who has assiduously maintained a total separation between the lawyers and their actual clients.

The rules about affidavits are somewhat lax and but what Shinners is doing here constitutes a clear-cut ethical violation. No reputable lawyer would even consider touching it, and less-than-reputable lawyers would insist on at least being paid first.

That's before we get into the obvious fact that any law firm looking at this is going to conclude that the judgment will be unrecoverable. Shinners isn't remotely the only one suing Josh for his never-ending cons, and the claims that Shinners knows where the money is sounds like a tall-tale anyway.

I don't know what the angle is, it simply might just be that Shinner is a gigantic blowhard convinced of his self-importance who made this all up to simply make himself feel powerful and respected after he lost a fortune with Josh, but this whole thing is a fake, whatever the reason.


Shinner is posting "SoonTM" about the gawsuit!

Doesn't anyone involved recognize that tactic, at this point?

Shimmer's Bitlend.io is also shutting down.

He's already farmed the growing crops now he's off to harvest!!!

Bitlend.io and xpy lawsuit got him plenty of personal info. Now he can go start his own scam... but don't worry its not his fault garza scammed him so he's just trying to get back even so totally justified.

Remember shinners emails to garza about helping him out and the wage he wanted and his demands to work for garza haha shinners is an a-grade asshole too. He just thought he could outscam garza at his own game.

The joke of it is that when you scam the less smart and sophisticated you are the more successful you are. Shinners is just a vulture picking the last few bits off the roadkill corpse.

Not that im surprised.. all it takes to scam people is say nope im legit im going to do everything for everyone and if you stand against it you are just a fudder trying to hurt already ripped off people... im just here to do it out of the goodness of my heart because im such an altruistic kinda guy.

Honestly the day he kept mordica out of it saying he's ok just was taken advantage of is the day everyone should of realised he was a crook too. Allen Shinners is a fuckin idiot... he thinks he's smart but honestly if you get scammed like he did then you clearly aren't that smart. Maybe he should give power of attorney to his 4 year old kid... so he doesn't screw the family finances up anymore Smiley

He won't come back here and comment though. He's too embarrassed to admit he did nothing but shoot his mouth off. I think his gawsuit consisted of a couple of yahoo answers questions about who he can hire and calling some of those late night pro bono law agencries on tv to see what he could do. If he had any intelligence it'd be doing something now. As per usual though its the gov institutions that while slow will do the work needed.

So when does season 1 of "Ganked like a Garza" start? i hear it starts with a pilot episode of josh in court acting like a brilliant cock Smiley
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April 19, 2016, 10:08:25 AM
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pretty sure that fuck-nut is now known as MriON. no joke  Grin
oh god these scams would be funny with out the human suffering part. i dont really care about the random "investor" who lost few months of pay but i draw the line at life savings of a dying person

Scams are never funny. Not even if you were robbed of just $1.

Losing $1 is ok, a pain, but it's ok.

Investing and losing $1 is again ok, but disappointing.

Being robbed of $1 is a crime. The amount doesn't matter, it's the intent that counts.

I hope one day JG does see the inside of a courthouse and that justice is done.
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pretty sure that fuck-nut is now known as MriON. no joke  Grin
oh god these scams would be funny with out the human suffering part. i dont really care about the random "investor" who lost few months of pay but i draw the line at life savings of a dying person

Scams are never funny. Not even if you were robbed of just $1.

Losing $1 is ok, a pain, but it's ok.

Investing and losing $1 is again ok, but disappointing.

Being robbed of $1 is a crime. The amount doesn't matter, it's the intent that counts.

I hope one day JG does see the inside of a courthouse and that justice is done.

If you're the real mr-coins don't you think being so wrong you should just shut your mouth and watch future crypto just go by without your opinion? How many people did you call fudders and how many did you likely influence with your excitable crap and twitter messages like is paycoin on the verge of sec approval?

Hint : Ionomy or whatever the fuck it is is the same old shit rehashed. Josh Garza or not replace the figurehead its the same shit. In your best interests i think you should fade back a little and not screw more people around. You were instrumental in your cries of fud and twitter messages.
Ion is complete and utter a fuck up. Some shitty web games etc wow.. i don't promote voxels but at least they "appear" and i mean it loosely to be making something.

Aside from that those ion loser should just make a gaming platform and use one of the many existing coins to integrate with it... dgb, hyper etc. They make a coin because they want control and to milk the morons more. If you can't see that then there is no hope. Use this opportunity to grow.
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April 19, 2016, 10:38:02 AM
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Just because I was wrong, and I lost a ton of money, that does not mean I have no right to speak.

I was wrong. I paid for it. A lot of people were wrong. They paid for it.

There is one person that has paid nothing yet. JG.
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April 19, 2016, 10:42:00 AM
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Just because I was wrong, and I lost a ton of money, that does not mean I have no right to speak.

I was wrong. I paid for it. A lot of people were wrong. They paid for it.

There is one person that has paid nothing yet. JG.

Well a lot of people were right but you constantly called them fudders and said they should be forum banned.

Are you saying that in the future if someone makes such a statement that based on your past record then you probably should give them the benefit of doubt then and not call them fudders?

Or are you saying call them fudders again and be wrong then say again say you made mistakes...?

Im just curious. Im assuming you'd err on the side of caution and say the fudders aren't fudders anymore and their opinion should be considered.. i.e. on the ion forum if someone was to question it you'd support their right of comment without calling them a fudder?

Is this correct?

and no you are wrong there is many people.... mordica, matlack all of team xpy that actually did nothing in dev time etc.. unless you think josh was the brains of it all hahaha and no others are guilty of anything Smiley
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I was wrong. I paid for it. A lot of people were wrong. They paid for it.


Also just to note your comments do influence people.. thats why its social media. So you were wrong as well and "some other" people paid for it too. Its a responsibilitiy thing.
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April 19, 2016, 10:48:24 AM
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Just because I was wrong, and I lost a ton of money, that does not mean I have no right to speak.

I was wrong. I paid for it. A lot of people were wrong. They paid for it.

There is one person that has paid nothing yet. JG.

Well a lot of people were right but you constantly called them fudders and said they should be forum banned.

Are you saying that in the future if someone makes such a statement that based on your past record then you probably should give them the benefit of doubt then and not call them fudders?

Or are you saying call them fudders again and be wrong then say again say you made mistakes...?

Im just curious. Im assuming you'd err on the side of caution and say the fudders aren't fudders anymore and their opinion should be considered.. i.e. on the ion forum if someone was to question it you'd support their right of comment without calling them a fudder?

Is this correct?

Unfortunately the communities became polarised and it almost became a war between who was right and who was wrong. Ego took over for many on both sides, many were left hoping they were right. I was one of those. An expensive lesson.
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Just because I was wrong, and I lost a ton of money, that does not mean I have no right to speak.

I was wrong. I paid for it. A lot of people were wrong. They paid for it.

There is one person that has paid nothing yet. JG.

Well a lot of people were right but you constantly called them fudders and said they should be forum banned.

Are you saying that in the future if someone makes such a statement that based on your past record then you probably should give them the benefit of doubt then and not call them fudders?

Or are you saying call them fudders again and be wrong then say again say you made mistakes...?

Im just curious. Im assuming you'd err on the side of caution and say the fudders aren't fudders anymore and their opinion should be considered.. i.e. on the ion forum if someone was to question it you'd support their right of comment without calling them a fudder?

Is this correct?

Unfortunately the communities became polarised and it almost became a war between who was right and who was wrong. Ego took over for many on both sides, many were left hoping they were right. I was one of those. An expensive lesson.

Wtf its like ring around the rosy word games. That wasn't the question. The question was

"If someone posted like they did on xpy paycoin talk whatever again saying it was just a full of shit coin and stated info would you again call them a fudder or give them the right of benefit of doubt and not call back on them"

answer?

Your last comment just danced around and said some shit about noise in a community and wars with right and wrong like you were trying to equalise and justify actions. No everyone chooses their side. Don't take this polarising crap when you make a comment you are commiting to it and have complete 100% accountability there is no but i did this because of this and there was that so its understandable i acted as i did.

So again.. answer the above question no foreplay just get to the action and answer it succinctly.
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April 19, 2016, 10:55:16 AM
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I was wrong. I paid for it. A lot of people were wrong. They paid for it.


Also just to note your comments do influence people.. thats why its social media. So you were wrong as well and "some other" people paid for it too. Its a responsibilitiy thing.

I use social media like everyone else. I post/tweet/share what I am doing, just like everyone else. That's what social media generally is.

To accept twitter users (and there were a lot of them) share the responsibility of JG really eases the load off JG.

For me, JG is 100% responsible for his intent to steal.
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April 19, 2016, 10:57:33 AM
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I was wrong. I paid for it. A lot of people were wrong. They paid for it.


Also just to note your comments do influence people.. thats why its social media. So you were wrong as well and "some other" people paid for it too. Its a responsibilitiy thing.

I use social media like everyone else. I post/tweet/share what I am doing, just like everyone else. That's what social media generally is.

To accept twitter users (and there were a lot of them) share the responsibility of JG really eases the load off JG.

For me, JG is 100% responsible for his intent to steal.

You gave him power... so therefore he is not 100% share of responsibility. The fact that you cannot accept that you played any part even in a small fraction just shows you cannot take any responsibility in any of your actions... o i didn't know i was going to get fat drinking 100 litres of cola a day its cokes fault with their advertising.. i thought i'd just be happy on the beach like in their ads so i told everyone else the same.
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April 19, 2016, 11:06:17 AM
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You gave him power... so therefore he is not 100% share of responsibility. The fact that you cannot accept that you played any part even in a small fraction just shows you cannot take any responsibility in any of your actions... o i didn't know i was going to get fat drinking 100 litres of cola a day its cokes fault with their advertising.. i thought i'd just be happy on the beach like in their ads so i told everyone else the same.

It's what scammers do. They use people, the steal from victims. He was a particularly clever scammer.

I am not the only one who believed in the scam. My mistake cost me dearly.

But don't make the mistake of thinking it makes him less of a criminal. He doesn't deserve that.

He deserves no less than 100% full responsibility for his criminal intent.
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You gave him power... so therefore he is not 100% share of responsibility. The fact that you cannot accept that you played any part even in a small fraction just shows you cannot take any responsibility in any of your actions... o i didn't know i was going to get fat drinking 100 litres of cola a day its cokes fault with their advertising.. i thought i'd just be happy on the beach like in their ads so i told everyone else the same.

It's what scammers do. They use people, the steal from victims. He was a particularly clever scammer.

I am not the only one who believed in the scam. My mistake cost me dearly.

But don't make the mistake of thinking it makes him less of a criminal. He doesn't deserve that.

He deserves no less than 100% full responsibility for his criminal intent.

I don't think him less of a criminal he is 100% a criminal. You evaded the questions yet again.. lets try again.

1. If someone comes and accuses ion of being the same, gives an explanation will you again out them as a fudder then if it goes the same state what you are now or would you give benefit of the doubt and give them right to speech and acknowledge.

2. You share some responsibility for passing on and promoting or do you deny that.

Pretty easy questions but you all seem hell bent on just moving the blame 100% and acting like lost sheep.
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April 19, 2016, 11:13:36 AM
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You gave him power... so therefore he is not 100% share of responsibility. The fact that you cannot accept that you played any part even in a small fraction just shows you cannot take any responsibility in any of your actions... o i didn't know i was going to get fat drinking 100 litres of cola a day its cokes fault with their advertising.. i thought i'd just be happy on the beach like in their ads so i told everyone else the same.

It's what scammers do. They use people, the steal from victims. He was a particularly clever scammer.

I am not the only one who believed in the scam. My mistake cost me dearly.

But don't make the mistake of thinking it makes him less of a criminal. He doesn't deserve that.

He deserves no less than 100% full responsibility for his criminal intent.

I don't think him less of a criminal he is 100% a criminal. You evaded the questions yet again.. lets try again.

1. If someone comes and accuses ion of being the same, gives an explanation will you again out them as a fudder then if it goes the same state what you are now or would you give benefit of the doubt and give them right to speech and acknowledge.

2. You share some responsibility for passing on and promoting or do you deny that.

Pretty easy questions but you all seem hell bent on just moving the blame 100% and acting like lost sheep.

I am giving you my time sincerely which of course I do not have to do.

1. I learnt a lot from my mistakes. It's what happens in life. I will not call anyone a FUDder. I have learnt to consider that they might be right.

2. I am responsible for my own BTC. Everyone else is responsible for theirs. I did not give anyone investment advice. Anyone who chose to follow me into my terrible investment did it through their own choice. If they do not blame themselves for it then they have learnt nothing from the experience.

Mistakes are ok. It's what helps us grow and become wiser. We just have to try to make less of them as time goes on.
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You gave him power... so therefore he is not 100% share of responsibility. The fact that you cannot accept that you played any part even in a small fraction just shows you cannot take any responsibility in any of your actions... o i didn't know i was going to get fat drinking 100 litres of cola a day its cokes fault with their advertising.. i thought i'd just be happy on the beach like in their ads so i told everyone else the same.

It's what scammers do. They use people, the steal from victims. He was a particularly clever scammer.

I am not the only one who believed in the scam. My mistake cost me dearly.

But don't make the mistake of thinking it makes him less of a criminal. He doesn't deserve that.

He deserves no less than 100% full responsibility for his criminal intent.

I don't think him less of a criminal he is 100% a criminal. You evaded the questions yet again.. lets try again.

1. If someone comes and accuses ion of being the same, gives an explanation will you again out them as a fudder then if it goes the same state what you are now or would you give benefit of the doubt and give them right to speech and acknowledge.

Mistakes are ok. It's what helps us grow and become wiser. We just have to try to make less of them as time goes on.
2. You share some responsibility for passing on and promoting or do you deny that.

Pretty easy questions but you all seem hell bent on just moving the blame 100% and acting like lost sheep.

I am giving you my time sincerely which of course I do not have to do.

1. I learnt a lot from my mistakes. It's what happens in life. I will not call anyone a FUDder. I have learnt to consider that they might be right.

2. I am responsible for my own BTC. Everyone else is responsible for theirs. I did not give anyone investment advice. Anyone who chose to follow me into my terrible investment did it through their own choice. If they do not blame themselves for it then they have learnt nothing from the experience.

You don't have to give time true but i'm betting that you came here from comments against you to justify it so in a way you are giving time you feel you have to do.

Finally you answered 1 of 2 questions.

I suggest in future for all your twitter posts you start stating something to the extent of don't take this as investment advice. You could also add that you have been wrong in the past to ensure people don't take it 100% as promotion.
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April 19, 2016, 11:21:17 AM
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You don't have to give time true but i'm betting that you came here from comments against you to justify it so in a way you are giving time you feel you have to do.

Finally you answered 1 of 2 questions.

I suggest in future for all your twitter posts you start stating something to the extent of don't take this as investment advice. You could also add that you have been wrong in the past to ensure people don't take it 100% as promotion.

I like to post charts and my own Technical Analysis. Sometimes I am right, sometime I am wrong. Just like everyone else.

Check out my recent twitter posts. I have learnt a lot. Anyone who takes investment advice from Twitter will lose. So people need to either educate themselves or alternatively you have to find a way to convince many hundreds (or thousands) of other crypto twitter users to add disclaimers to their tweets too.
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You gave him power... so therefore he is not 100% share of responsibility. The fact that you cannot accept that you played any part even in a small fraction just shows you cannot take any responsibility in any of your actions... o i didn't know i was going to get fat drinking 100 litres of cola a day its cokes fault with their advertising.. i thought i'd just be happy on the beach like in their ads so i told everyone else the same.

It's what scammers do. They use people, the steal from victims. He was a particularly clever scammer.

I am not the only one who believed in the scam. My mistake cost me dearly.

But don't make the mistake of thinking it makes him less of a criminal. He doesn't deserve that.

He deserves no less than 100% full responsibility for his criminal intent.

O and just to clarify he wasn't a particularly smart scammer. With his shit of amazon and target approved one needed to simply google

xpy target
paycoin target
amazon paycoin
amazon xpy

to realise he was full of shit... or if you want to get technical

cantor xpy
cantor paycoin

There was nothing on those searches that in any way indicated it.. and its 100m dollar bullshit. Josh wasn't clever. Greedy people like yourself wanted him to be right to jump the next huge bitcoin train.
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You don't have to give time true but i'm betting that you came here from comments against you to justify it so in a way you are giving time you feel you have to do.

Finally you answered 1 of 2 questions.

I suggest in future for all your twitter posts you start stating something to the extent of don't take this as investment advice. You could also add that you have been wrong in the past to ensure people don't take it 100% as promotion.

I like to post charts and my own Technical Analysis. Sometimes I am right, sometime I am wrong. Just like everyone else.

Check out my recent twitter posts. I have learnt a lot. Anyone who takes investment advice from Twitter will lose. So people need to educate themselves or alternatively you have to get many hundreds (or thousands) of other twitter users to follow your advice also.


Awesome.. make a twitter post stating that anyone that takes advice from twitter will lose. Also state on twitter people need to educate themselves. But of course one wouldn't do that on twitter would they? But when you want twitter followers you aren't going to state that aren't you... your advice and comments you want to gather followers with. fair call i'd say wouldnt you agree?
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