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Author Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)  (Read 3228377 times)
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April 21, 2016, 06:05:23 AM
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However, I am not the only one who quit over $ 12 because we "SCREAMED" "WARNING!!! SCAM!!!". I think the main difference is, MrCoins believed and trusted into this (you could discuss here about inteligence, but it is not scamming), not sure if he got out over $10, I am somehow sure he did not, MrCoins, did you?

I don't know if he's lacking intelligence or not but he claims to have learnt his lesson and then shrills for Ionomy. I can't understand it.

Ionomy now has it's own thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633

I may or may not lack intelligence. But do not underestimate what greed can do to your sensible side. I was blinded by it. I am not ashamed to admit it. If I did not admit this to myself, then I will be burned again for the same reason. Lesson learned.

Thanks for the thread, i'll check it out.

You should also check out the new cypto-community at crypto-city.com MrCoins.
The unique ethics and skills you have will match very well with the creators of the site.

Unfortunately I don't get a lot of online time, it's spread so thinly however I will try to find time to check out your recommendation.
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Updated my twitter profile:

"Nothing I say is investment advice. Don't copy my trades or investments. I'm often wrong."

https://twitter.com/CryptoDabbler

I'm now covered for both BCT and Twitter Smiley

You already led many to slaughter, you stopped us from helping some, your approved tweet became a meme for shitcoins

He is sucking you into his vortex of slime. Ignore for sanity.

On the contrary, bitpop has shown he is able to have reasonable and intelligent discussion
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Before you go.

One question.

Is ION a scam or not?


Scam as in "wilful intent to defraud investors" or scam as in "poor business plan"? The word is thrown about so much, we should agree on a definition.

Tell me the reason why you think it is, and i'll check it out.




I'll go with your definition. Created to defraud people from the outset.

Now it's very clear that Ionomy has been set up to to do just this. I am not going to give you the reason why because you keep saying you have learnt your lesson with XPY. So please answer the question.

So, based on your definition of a scam, and what you have learnt with XPY, IS IONOMY A SCAM OR NOT?




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April 21, 2016, 07:56:43 AM
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I think suchmoon dislikes in getting this thread into discussion about ionomy, there is an thread for that.

Dave, MrCoins came over and answers all questions. I do not know what do you reffer to when you ask him if he learned his lesson, for me it sounds like he admits in public that he made an mistake, he throw away bunch of money which we actually do not care about, I think it hurts more that btc landed in scammer hands.

MrCoins and his connection to GAW was always there and discussion about it fits into this short thread Smiley, everything else would produce pretty fast an 10K thread. I think currently this thread makes promotion for GAW than everything else, just google for GAW Smiley. Thats good, because if someone wants to invest anything to people involved there, here they can read a lot about how some did make business or like we do not recognise such as business because it is scamming.

Back to question about ionomy and scam before suchmoon kicks this topic out of this thread, why is ionomy scam? I do not care about definitions of other people, if, then I'll keep with bitpop saying that everything except bitcoin is scam. Now giviing other coins a chance in not looking at them as scam, why is ionomy aleady now an scam?

I think you should ask bitcointalk moderators and admin to move altcoin part away from bitcointalk as over 90% is scam and they can't follow so many coins, now they tried things like banning for giveaway and not allowing giveaway threads, ..... but the core problem is still altcoin category. I think now suchmoon can kick it out Smiley
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April 21, 2016, 08:43:34 AM
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Before you go.

One question.

Is ION a scam or not?

Scam as in "wilful intent to defraud investors" or scam as in "poor business plan"? The word is thrown about so much, we should agree on a definition.

Tell me the reason why you think it is, and i'll check it out.


I'll go with your definition. Created to defraud people from the outset.

Now it's very clear that Ionomy has been set up to to do just this. I am not going to give you the reason why because you keep saying you have learnt your lesson with XPY. So please answer the question.

So, based on your definition of a scam, and what you have learnt with XPY, IS IONOMY A SCAM OR NOT?


Think about this...

Bob is a scammer. Bob scams Jane. Therefore Jane is a scammer.

Do you see the problem with this logic?

Please post this question in ION thread and I will answer it. Thank you.

I like it that this thread will one day report the capture of Garza, maybe with pictures. I look forward to that day.
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I think suchmoon dislikes in getting this thread into discussion about ionomy, there is an thread for that.

I totally agree and will answer all ION questions to the correct thread. I will disclose now that I swapped all my worthless XPY for ION and so I have an interest no longer in XPY except for seeing JG receive justice. I wish I got to know some of you guys 18 months ago. Well, we're here now Smiley
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Think about this...

Bob is a scammer. Bob scams Jane. Therefore Jane is a scammer.

Do you see the problem with this logic?

That isn't the logic they are using.

It is more like:

Josh is a Scammer. He convinces MrCoins that he's going to make him rich. MrCoins eagerly shills for Josh. MrCoins is frequently challenged by people who keep telling him that Josh is a scammer. MrCoins is frequently challenged by people who keep pointing out the glaring holes in the bullshit Josh keeps telling him. MrCoins accuses these people of spoiling his plans for getting rich because they are just jelly of Josh being so fucking awesome. Josh is proven to be under investigation by the SEC. MrCoins tells everybody who will listen that it could be a really good sign. MrCoins slag off everybody who says otherwise. MrCoins spends a lot of time telling other people who Josh also convinced to invest in his getrichquick(TM) scheme that all the signs are good that the getrichquick(TM) scheme is going to get them all rich and that anybody who says otherwise is just a jelly poopyhead.

MrCoins eventually claims himself to be nothing but an innocent victim in the whole pump of the getrichquick(TM) scheme Josh promised them would get them rich, and quick!

MrCoins refuses to acknowledge the part he had to play in helping Josh convince others that the naysayers were just jelly poopyheads.


There. It is that kind of logic.


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Think about this...

Bob is a scammer. Bob scams Jane. Therefore Jane is a scammer.

Do you see the problem with this logic?

That isn't the logic they are using.

It is more like:

Josh is a Scammer. He convinces MrCoins that he's going to make him rich. MrCoins eagerly shills for Josh. MrCoins is frequently challenged by people who keep telling him that Josh is a scammer. MrCoins is frequently challenged by people who keep pointing out the glaring holes in the bullshit Josh keeps telling him. MrCoins accuses these people of spoiling his plans for getting rich because they are just jelly of Josh being so fucking awesome. Josh is proven to be under investigation by the SEC. MrCoins tells everybody who will listen that it could be a really good sign. MrCoins slag off everybody who says otherwise. MrCoins spends a lot of time telling other people who Josh also convinced to invest in his getrichquick(TM) scheme that all the signs are good that the getrichquick(TM) scheme is going to get them all rich and that anybody who says otherwise is just a jelly poopyhead.

MrCoins eventually claims himself to be nothing but an innocent victim in the whole pump of the getrichquick(TM) scheme Josh promised them would get them rich, and quick!

MrCoins refuses to acknowledge the part he had to play in helping Josh convince others that the naysayers were just jelly poopyheads.

There. It is that kind of logic.


That's exactly what I said, but you said it a much much longer way....

The point is... If the person being scammed doesn't know it's a scam, then how can they be a scammer no matter what they do during the process?

Lots of people here lost money.

Some got out real early, some got out with just their pants, some got out with almost nothing, some remain. One guy got away with all the BTC. So... Who is the scammer? The guys who got out early, slow, not at all or the guy with all the BTC? Think about it. The line between victim and criminal is not blurry. Follow the money as they say.
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April 21, 2016, 09:22:34 AM
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Think about this...

Bob is a scammer. Bob scams Jane. Therefore Jane is a scammer.

Do you see the problem with this logic?

That isn't the logic they are using.

It is more like:

Josh is a Scammer. He convinces MrCoins that he's going to make him rich. MrCoins eagerly shills for Josh. MrCoins is frequently challenged by people who keep telling him that Josh is a scammer. MrCoins is frequently challenged by people who keep pointing out the glaring holes in the bullshit Josh keeps telling him. MrCoins accuses these people of spoiling his plans for getting rich because they are just jelly of Josh being so fucking awesome. Josh is proven to be under investigation by the SEC. MrCoins tells everybody who will listen that it could be a really good sign. MrCoins slag off everybody who says otherwise. MrCoins spends a lot of time telling other people who Josh also convinced to invest in his getrichquick(TM) scheme that all the signs are good that the getrichquick(TM) scheme is going to get them all rich and that anybody who says otherwise is just a jelly poopyhead.

MrCoins eventually claims himself to be nothing but an innocent victim in the whole pump of the getrichquick(TM) scheme Josh promised them would get them rich, and quick!

MrCoins refuses to acknowledge the part he had to play in helping Josh convince others that the naysayers were just jelly poopyheads.

There. It is that kind of logic.


That's exactly what I said, but you said it a much much longer way....

The point is... If the person being scammed doesn't know it's a scam, then how can they be a scammer no matter what they do?

Lots of people here lost money.

Some got out real early, some got out with just their pants, some got out with almost nothing, some remain. One guy got away with all the BTC. So... Who is the scammer? The guys who got out early, slow, not at all or the guy with all the BTC? Think about it. The line between victim and criminal is not blurry. Follow the money as they say.


You are all wrong.

The logic is much much simpler than that: MrCoin is a piece of sh..t! There. Smiley
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Think about this...

Bob is a scammer. Bob scams Jane. Therefore Jane is a scammer.

Do you see the problem with this logic?

That isn't the logic they are using.

It is more like:

Josh is a Scammer. He convinces MrCoins that he's going to make him rich. MrCoins eagerly shills for Josh. MrCoins is frequently challenged by people who keep telling him that Josh is a scammer. MrCoins is frequently challenged by people who keep pointing out the glaring holes in the bullshit Josh keeps telling him. MrCoins accuses these people of spoiling his plans for getting rich because they are just jelly of Josh being so fucking awesome. Josh is proven to be under investigation by the SEC. MrCoins tells everybody who will listen that it could be a really good sign. MrCoins slag off everybody who says otherwise. MrCoins spends a lot of time telling other people who Josh also convinced to invest in his getrichquick(TM) scheme that all the signs are good that the getrichquick(TM) scheme is going to get them all rich and that anybody who says otherwise is just a jelly poopyhead.

MrCoins eventually claims himself to be nothing but an innocent victim in the whole pump of the getrichquick(TM) scheme Josh promised them would get them rich, and quick!

MrCoins refuses to acknowledge the part he had to play in helping Josh convince others that the naysayers were just jelly poopyheads.

There. It is that kind of logic.


That's exactly what I said, but you said it a much much longer way....

The point is... If the person being scammed doesn't know it's a scam, then how can they be a scammer no matter what they do?

Lots of people here lost money.

Some got out real early, some got out with just their pants, some got out with almost nothing, some remain. One guy got away with all the BTC. So... Who is the scammer? The guys who got out early, slow, not at all or the guy with all the BTC? Think about it. The line between victim and criminal is not blurry. Follow the money as they say.


You are all wrong.

The logic is much much simpler than that: MrCoin is a piece of sh..t! There. Smiley

haha! Why on earth did I take so long coming over here, some of you guys are actually great! Cheesy
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April 21, 2016, 09:33:35 AM
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MRCoins.

Ion is a scam.

I don't understand how you can't see that.

I have not tweeted my opinion on any coins other than ETH / BTC.

If you find otherwise, please post the link so I can review and clear up any misunderstanding.

I didn't say you had. On talkxpy you said you had sold all your xpy and bought ION.

You do realize that the value of ION is no way near 2 million that you have bought in at 20 cents? All the devs have done have done is copy an existing clone and made a pretty website. You can see that right?

I am not providing any investment advice here, but yes, I swapped my XPY (not sold, it was virtually worthless and not worth selling). I still had every single XPY as from the very start. It was very therapeutic to finally get rid of them.

So you swapped your xpy to someone with you knowing its dead and a scam? Isn't that a little... well taking advantage of the buyer?
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MRCoins.

Ion is a scam.

I don't understand how you can't see that.

I have not tweeted my opinion on any coins other than ETH / BTC.

If you find otherwise, please post the link so I can review and clear up any misunderstanding.

I didn't say you had. On talkxpy you said you had sold all your xpy and bought ION.

You do realize that the value of ION is no way near 2 million that you have bought in at 20 cents? All the devs have done have done is copy an existing clone and made a pretty website. You can see that right?

I am not providing any investment advice here, but yes, I swapped my XPY (not sold, it was virtually worthless and not worth selling). I still had every single XPY as from the very start. It was very therapeutic to finally get rid of them.

So you swapped your xpy to someone with you knowing its dead and a scam? Isn't that a little... well taking advantage of the buyer?

So if I sold my XPY on an exchange to a willing buyer i'm bad? Not heard that logic before! haha! I could go on but, anyhow, I didn't do that.

I swapped my XPY for ION (there's another thread for that). So, nope, I didn't even dump it on to anyone, not even to a willing buyer. You see, I am a nice guy Smiley
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MRCoins.

Ion is a scam.

I don't understand how you can't see that.

I have not tweeted my opinion on any coins other than ETH / BTC.

If you find otherwise, please post the link so I can review and clear up any misunderstanding.

I didn't say you had. On talkxpy you said you had sold all your xpy and bought ION.

You do realize that the value of ION is no way near 2 million that you have bought in at 20 cents? All the devs have done have done is copy an existing clone and made a pretty website. You can see that right?

I am not providing any investment advice here, but yes, I swapped my XPY (not sold, it was virtually worthless and not worth selling). I still had every single XPY as from the very start. It was very therapeutic to finally get rid of them.

So you swapped your xpy to someone with you knowing its dead and a scam? Isn't that a little... well taking advantage of the buyer?

So if I sold my XPY on an exchange to a willing buyer i'm bad? Not heard that logic before! haha! I could go on but, anyhow, I didn't do that.

I swapped my XPY for ION (there's another thread for that). So, nope, I didn't even dump it on to anyone, not even to a willing buyer. You see, I am a nice guy Smiley


So, following the same logic that MrCoinSht is a piece of sh..t, everything that comes out of his mouth is sh.t. Now you can see that everything is conected and the logic is solid Smiley
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MRCoins.

Ion is a scam.

I don't understand how you can't see that.

I have not tweeted my opinion on any coins other than ETH / BTC.

If you find otherwise, please post the link so I can review and clear up any misunderstanding.

I didn't say you had. On talkxpy you said you had sold all your xpy and bought ION.

You do realize that the value of ION is no way near 2 million that you have bought in at 20 cents? All the devs have done have done is copy an existing clone and made a pretty website. You can see that right?

I am not providing any investment advice here, but yes, I swapped my XPY (not sold, it was virtually worthless and not worth selling). I still had every single XPY as from the very start. It was very therapeutic to finally get rid of them.

So you swapped your xpy to someone with you knowing its dead and a scam? Isn't that a little... well taking advantage of the buyer?

So if I sold my XPY on an exchange to a willing buyer i'm bad? Not heard that logic before! haha! I could go on but, anyhow, I didn't do that.

I swapped my XPY for ION (there's another thread for that). So, nope, I didn't even dump it on to anyone, not even to a willing buyer. You see, I am a nice guy Smiley


So, following the same logic that MrCoinSht is a piece of sh..t, everything that comes out of his mouth is sh.t. Now you can see that everything is conected and the logic is solid Smiley

But this isn't logic. This is opinion. They are different! hehe! Cheesy

Logic is the same for everyone. Opinion is subjective.

I can see how people lose money. Facts and myths get mixed up, logic and opinion get mixed up, scammers and victims get mixed up. Oh dear!
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This is in response to what someone asked me on the forum where this information was being discussed. If I was tweeting / promoting / pushing i'd understand... But, i'm not. Like I said, I have to be careful as I am a target for "set up" questions.

You will not find anything outside of the direct question I was asked. No tweets, no blog posts, no recommendations.

I said I see it as shrilling. That is a fact. I don't think I'm the only one here. You shrilled for XPY and now you shrill for ION.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Do you also agree then that I shill for BTC?

"For what it's worth... I see #bitcoin going UP within a week or two. An eventual break above 450 opens up the skies"

https://twitter.com/CryptoDabbler/status/718820256391802885

My twitter reaches thousands of people. If you can show my promotion that should be removed, I will remove it.

Yes i see it as shilling for bitcoin. Difference is bitcoin was the first. It was a technology created to address a need. The creators coins in genesis blocks etc haven't moved. Its a curency adopted by many open sourced and not centralised as per stakers like garza etc.

The difference is bitcoin is free market based on peoples faith of it... its perceived value on what people believe though the original ideal had no promises of being this or that no more or less than just a currency.

Xpy promised floors, it promised deals with amazon etc.. people countered that you called them fudders. XPY promised... bitcoin never did. When you shill you promote the creators promises.. see the link. You shilled for xpy you promote promises of $20 etc. You shill bitcoin you promote promises of nothing because nothing was promised.

Ion promises all this bullshit game platform and 20c base value on ico... sorry iso don't want to get mixed up with garza right? change that letter. If they believed in their tech and vision those assholes in ion would make it pow initial phase so its fair and then pos from then on if they believe mining is dead... what do they do instead? Ask you to give them money to buy in. They did nothing for xpy so ion is different how? Its the usual bullshit of its going to do this and that we provide the vision but hey fuck it the community will make the value and content.

I'll fork a coin call it supermarket coin say its for supermarket use and eventually it'll be the coin of supermarkets.. if i get enough shills maybe someone will make shopping cart apps that trade coin value for gift cards at coles, woolworths and target... fuck im a genius... see what these retards do?

OR you could take any of the existing 1000000 alt coins make a game service and use that coin and do the same... whats the difference? You're falling into the same shit and hoping the new owners are better than the old.
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MRCoins.

Ion is a scam.

I don't understand how you can't see that.

I have not tweeted my opinion on any coins other than ETH / BTC.

If you find otherwise, please post the link so I can review and clear up any misunderstanding.

I didn't say you had. On talkxpy you said you had sold all your xpy and bought ION.

You do realize that the value of ION is no way near 2 million that you have bought in at 20 cents? All the devs have done have done is copy an existing clone and made a pretty website. You can see that right?

I am not providing any investment advice here, but yes, I swapped my XPY (not sold, it was virtually worthless and not worth selling). I still had every single XPY as from the very start. It was very therapeutic to finally get rid of them.

So you swapped your xpy to someone with you knowing its dead and a scam? Isn't that a little... well taking advantage of the buyer?

So if I sold my XPY on an exchange to a willing buyer i'm bad? Not heard that logic before! haha! I could go on but, anyhow, I didn't do that.

I swapped my XPY for ION (there's another thread for that). So, nope, I didn't even dump it on to anyone, not even to a willing buyer. You see, I am a nice guy Smiley


So, following the same logic that MrCoinSht is a piece of sh..t, everything that comes out of his mouth is sh.t. Now you can see that everything is conected and the logic is solid Smiley

But this isn't logic. This is opinion. They are different! hehe! Cheesy

Logic is the same for everyone. Opinion is subjective.


And in some cases (like this one) from his mouth can come a diarrhea... so a distinction must be made. Once again, the logic is solid.
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April 21, 2016, 09:58:21 AM
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This is in response to what someone asked me on the forum where this information was being discussed. If I was tweeting / promoting / pushing i'd understand... But, i'm not. Like I said, I have to be careful as I am a target for "set up" questions.

You will not find anything outside of the direct question I was asked. No tweets, no blog posts, no recommendations.

I said I see it as shrilling. That is a fact. I don't think I'm the only one here. You shrilled for XPY and now you shrill for ION.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Do you also agree then that I shill for BTC?

"For what it's worth... I see #bitcoin going UP within a week or two. An eventual break above 450 opens up the skies"

https://twitter.com/CryptoDabbler/status/718820256391802885

My twitter reaches thousands of people. If you can show my promotion that should be removed, I will remove it.

Yes i see it as shilling for bitcoin. Difference is bitcoin was the first. It was a technology created to address a need. The creators coins in genesis blocks etc haven't moved. Its a curency adopted by many open sourced and not centralised as per stakers like garza etc.

The difference is bitcoin is free market based on peoples faith of it... its perceived value on what people believe though the original ideal had no promises of being this or that no more or less than just a currency.

Xpy promised floors, it promised deals with amazon etc.. people countered that you called them fudders. XPY promised... bitcoin never did. When you shill you promote the creators promises.. see the link. You shilled for xpy you promote promises of $20 etc. You shill bitcoin you promote promises of nothing because nothing was promised.

Ion promises all this bullshit game platform and 20c base value on ico... sorry iso don't want to get mixed up with garza right? change that letter. If they believed in their tech and vision those assholes in ion would make it pow initial phase so its fair and then pos from then on if they believe mining is dead... what do they do instead? Ask you to give them money to buy in. They did nothing for xpy so ion is different how? Its the usual bullshit of its going to do this and that we provide the vision but hey fuck it the community will make the value and content.

I'll fork a coin call it supermarket coin say its for supermarket use and eventually it'll be the coin of supermarkets.. if i get enough shills maybe someone will make shopping cart apps that trade coin value for gift cards at coles, woolworths and target... fuck im a genius... see what these retards do?

OR you could take any of the existing 1000000 alt coins make a game service and use that coin and do the same... whats the difference? You're falling into the same shit and hoping the new owners are better than the old.


I have not given my comments on the other project here, i'll do that in the correct thread so as not to dilute Garza's work.

However, the XPY project was a scam, an intentional scam. It wasn't a failed project or a poorly executed plan. It was executed as the criminal creator intended, entirely to defraud, steal, deceive and steal people's money. There was a perpetrator with bad intent. To me, this defines a scam.

The "scam" word is used so much that it loses it's meaning. I do not believe all altcoins are scams. But some altcoins are created to scam people. The creator is the scammer, not the coin.
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April 21, 2016, 10:03:22 AM
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This is in response to what someone asked me on the forum where this information was being discussed. If I was tweeting / promoting / pushing i'd understand... But, i'm not. Like I said, I have to be careful as I am a target for "set up" questions.

You will not find anything outside of the direct question I was asked. No tweets, no blog posts, no recommendations.

I said I see it as shrilling. That is a fact. I don't think I'm the only one here. You shrilled for XPY and now you shrill for ION.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Do you also agree then that I shill for BTC?

"For what it's worth... I see #bitcoin going UP within a week or two. An eventual break above 450 opens up the skies"

https://twitter.com/CryptoDabbler/status/718820256391802885

My twitter reaches thousands of people. If you can show my promotion that should be removed, I will remove it.

Yes i see it as shilling for bitcoin. Difference is bitcoin was the first. It was a technology created to address a need. The creators coins in genesis blocks etc haven't moved. Its a curency adopted by many open sourced and not centralised as per stakers like garza etc.

The difference is bitcoin is free market based on peoples faith of it... its perceived value on what people believe though the original ideal had no promises of being this or that no more or less than just a currency.

Xpy promised floors, it promised deals with amazon etc.. people countered that you called them fudders. XPY promised... bitcoin never did. When you shill you promote the creators promises.. see the link. You shilled for xpy you promote promises of $20 etc. You shill bitcoin you promote promises of nothing because nothing was promised.

Ion promises all this bullshit game platform and 20c base value on ico... sorry iso don't want to get mixed up with garza right? change that letter. If they believed in their tech and vision those assholes in ion would make it pow initial phase so its fair and then pos from then on if they believe mining is dead... what do they do instead? Ask you to give them money to buy in. They did nothing for xpy so ion is different how? Its the usual bullshit of its going to do this and that we provide the vision but hey fuck it the community will make the value and content.

I'll fork a coin call it supermarket coin say its for supermarket use and eventually it'll be the coin of supermarkets.. if i get enough shills maybe someone will make shopping cart apps that trade coin value for gift cards at coles, woolworths and target... fuck im a genius... see what these retards do?

OR you could take any of the existing 1000000 alt coins make a game service and use that coin and do the same... whats the difference? You're falling into the same shit and hoping the new owners are better than the old.


I have not given my comments on the other project here, i'll do that in the correct thread so as not to dilute Garza's work.

However, the XPY project was a scam, an intentional scam. It wasn't a failed project or a poorly executed plan. It was executed as the criminal creator intended, entirely to defraud, steal, deceive and steal people's money. There was a perpetrator with bad intent. To me, this defines a scam.

The "scam" word is used so much that it loses it's meaning. I do not believe all altcoins are scams. But some altcoins are created to scam people. The creator is the scammer, not the coin.


Verbal diarrhea.

The logic stands the test of time.
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April 21, 2016, 10:06:59 AM
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This is in response to what someone asked me on the forum where this information was being discussed. If I was tweeting / promoting / pushing i'd understand... But, i'm not. Like I said, I have to be careful as I am a target for "set up" questions.

You will not find anything outside of the direct question I was asked. No tweets, no blog posts, no recommendations.

I said I see it as shrilling. That is a fact. I don't think I'm the only one here. You shrilled for XPY and now you shrill for ION.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Do you also agree then that I shill for BTC?

"For what it's worth... I see #bitcoin going UP within a week or two. An eventual break above 450 opens up the skies"

https://twitter.com/CryptoDabbler/status/718820256391802885

My twitter reaches thousands of people. If you can show my promotion that should be removed, I will remove it.

Yes i see it as shilling for bitcoin. Difference is bitcoin was the first. It was a technology created to address a need. The creators coins in genesis blocks etc haven't moved. Its a curency adopted by many open sourced and not centralised as per stakers like garza etc.

The difference is bitcoin is free market based on peoples faith of it... its perceived value on what people believe though the original ideal had no promises of being this or that no more or less than just a currency.

Xpy promised floors, it promised deals with amazon etc.. people countered that you called them fudders. XPY promised... bitcoin never did. When you shill you promote the creators promises.. see the link. You shilled for xpy you promote promises of $20 etc. You shill bitcoin you promote promises of nothing because nothing was promised.

Ion promises all this bullshit game platform and 20c base value on ico... sorry iso don't want to get mixed up with garza right? change that letter. If they believed in their tech and vision those assholes in ion would make it pow initial phase so its fair and then pos from then on if they believe mining is dead... what do they do instead? Ask you to give them money to buy in. They did nothing for xpy so ion is different how? Its the usual bullshit of its going to do this and that we provide the vision but hey fuck it the community will make the value and content.

I'll fork a coin call it supermarket coin say its for supermarket use and eventually it'll be the coin of supermarkets.. if i get enough shills maybe someone will make shopping cart apps that trade coin value for gift cards at coles, woolworths and target... fuck im a genius... see what these retards do?

OR you could take any of the existing 1000000 alt coins make a game service and use that coin and do the same... whats the difference? You're falling into the same shit and hoping the new owners are better than the old.


I have not given my comments on the other project here, i'll do that in the correct thread so as not to dilute Garza's work.

However, the XPY project was a scam, an intentional scam. It wasn't a failed project or a poorly executed plan. It was executed as the criminal creator intended, entirely to defraud, steal, deceive and steal people's money. There was a perpetrator with bad intent. To me, this defines a scam.

The "scam" word is used so much that it loses it's meaning. I do not believe all altcoins are scams. But some altcoins are created to scam people. The creator is the scammer, not the coin.


Verbal diarrhea.

The logic stands the test of time.

What you say is funny, I wonder if you are being serious. Is there any chance of a reasonable discussion about something? Cheesy
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April 21, 2016, 10:14:41 AM
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This is in response to what someone asked me on the forum where this information was being discussed. If I was tweeting / promoting / pushing i'd understand... But, i'm not. Like I said, I have to be careful as I am a target for "set up" questions.

You will not find anything outside of the direct question I was asked. No tweets, no blog posts, no recommendations.

I said I see it as shrilling. That is a fact. I don't think I'm the only one here. You shrilled for XPY and now you shrill for ION.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Do you also agree then that I shill for BTC?

"For what it's worth... I see #bitcoin going UP within a week or two. An eventual break above 450 opens up the skies"

https://twitter.com/CryptoDabbler/status/718820256391802885

My twitter reaches thousands of people. If you can show my promotion that should be removed, I will remove it.

Yes i see it as shilling for bitcoin. Difference is bitcoin was the first. It was a technology created to address a need. The creators coins in genesis blocks etc haven't moved. Its a curency adopted by many open sourced and not centralised as per stakers like garza etc.

The difference is bitcoin is free market based on peoples faith of it... its perceived value on what people believe though the original ideal had no promises of being this or that no more or less than just a currency.

Xpy promised floors, it promised deals with amazon etc.. people countered that you called them fudders. XPY promised... bitcoin never did. When you shill you promote the creators promises.. see the link. You shilled for xpy you promote promises of $20 etc. You shill bitcoin you promote promises of nothing because nothing was promised.

Ion promises all this bullshit game platform and 20c base value on ico... sorry iso don't want to get mixed up with garza right? change that letter. If they believed in their tech and vision those assholes in ion would make it pow initial phase so its fair and then pos from then on if they believe mining is dead... what do they do instead? Ask you to give them money to buy in. They did nothing for xpy so ion is different how? Its the usual bullshit of its going to do this and that we provide the vision but hey fuck it the community will make the value and content.

I'll fork a coin call it supermarket coin say its for supermarket use and eventually it'll be the coin of supermarkets.. if i get enough shills maybe someone will make shopping cart apps that trade coin value for gift cards at coles, woolworths and target... fuck im a genius... see what these retards do?

OR you could take any of the existing 1000000 alt coins make a game service and use that coin and do the same... whats the difference? You're falling into the same shit and hoping the new owners are better than the old.


I have not given my comments on the other project here, i'll do that in the correct thread so as not to dilute Garza's work.

However, the XPY project was a scam, an intentional scam. It wasn't a failed project or a poorly executed plan. It was executed as the criminal creator intended, entirely to defraud, steal, deceive and steal people's money. There was a perpetrator with bad intent. To me, this defines a scam.

The "scam" word is used so much that it loses it's meaning. I do not believe all altcoins are scams. But some altcoins are created to scam people. The creator is the scammer, not the coin.


Verbal diarrhea.

The logic stands the test of time.

What you say is funny, I wonder if you are being serious. Is there any chance of a reasonable discussion about something? Cheesy

It may be, but it is also true. And of course a reasonable discussion is possible, but only after you admit that you actively participated in the XPY scam and now are actively participating in the ION scam. Until then, everything that comes from your mouth is either sh.i or diarrhea (including the part "I will only answer in another thread, on another forum, in another life, etc etc").

P.s. I'm willing to bet that you will spill more sh.t because the logic is correct and it's impossible to turn shit in anything else.
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