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July 21, 2016, 01:30:41 AM
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You make some excellent points.

I'm just going by the leaked emails I read between Garza & Fargo.

It took me a while myself to see Fargo's perspective as well and he shared some things that will be presented to clarify what happened.
People I also thought innocent initially, like Joe M, showed eventually who he was with the blackmail and his lawyer.

Something that eventually happened that surprised me is that some of the mods from HT, like nemesio , went on to make a real cloud mining operation at GetHashing.com that's still operating to this day  Smiley. I mine with them Bitcoin and Ethereum. It also helped that I live in the same state as the DC  Grin

A year ago though, nemesio was blamed with other mods as colluding with Garza. The mod chat log takes hours to navigate and I didn't expect most to have read it, along with the leaked emails (mind you these came out later). Nemesio and others showed better proof they were mining and it wasn't hard to trust math vs the current drama.

I like many others log in each to see the official print and manuscripts of the insanity which is Garza. It has been an absolute crazy ride learning all the ins and outs of this environment. A lot of stories to be told. Always trust the blockchains  Grin



How could garza force a "journalist" to publish anything?

He was a shill for a scam company, he's a piece of shit along with the rest of them.

Unfortunately I will not share what was told to me as it can effect people other than SF. I have asked SF if there is anything that can be shared publicly. When we last spoke it was in May. Until then I fully understand what your saying. I've fielded nothing that would convince me either. Please bookmark this and I'll be chasing this until I hear a reply.

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July 21, 2016, 02:28:29 AM
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Well, what would you call a "journalist" who takes money from both the CryptoCoinNews AND secretly, the subject of his articles, (Josh Garza,) while allowing Garza to dictate all the poorly re-written content?

It was a huge scandal at CCN.
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July 21, 2016, 02:45:12 AM
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Well, what would you call a "journalist" who takes money from both the CryptoCoinNews AND secretly, the subject of his articles, (Josh Garza,) while allowing Garza to dictate all the poorly re-written content?

It was a huge scandal at CCN.

Yep! He's a schill for doing it.

Just saying there's more to it. I hope either I, SF, or eventually the prosecutors get to share it publicly.

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July 21, 2016, 05:14:48 AM
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Does whatever excuse he fed you somehow make it so he isn't someone stupid enough to believe garza or scummy enough to spew his bullshit?

I'm having trouble coming up with a scenario that doesn't fit into one of those 2 groups, so whatever the excuse is, he isn't to be trusted/worked with in the future.
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July 21, 2016, 07:26:19 AM
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Does whatever excuse he fed you somehow make it so he isn't someone stupid enough to believe garza or scummy enough to spew his bullshit?

I'm having trouble coming up with a scenario that doesn't fit into one of those 2 groups, so whatever the excuse is, he isn't to be trusted/worked with in the future.

It makes him self serving while trying to blame others for what he supposedly "had to do" at the very least. There is no excuse or blame for it. You can always walk away. Im not speaking to scott fargos's supposed real character but what he did was his choice forced or not he always had a chance to walk away. Unless he can show garza had a gun to his families head that forced it.

To say he was forced and is innocent whilst doing it is complete bullshit. He should own his actions PixelPowered. More to it or not he walked that path and should own the outcomes of his actions and not palm them to others. Your thoughts Pixel? How many lives would he have ruined that took his advice to heart?
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July 21, 2016, 10:25:11 AM
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Dear ion and xpy brothers, join me for ethereum classic

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July 21, 2016, 02:49:16 PM
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Does whatever excuse he fed you somehow make it so he isn't someone stupid enough to believe garza or scummy enough to spew his bullshit?

I'm having trouble coming up with a scenario that doesn't fit into one of those 2 groups, so whatever the excuse is, he isn't to be trusted/worked with in the future.

Yes. An excuse + evidence is the only reason it swayed my opinion and perspective.

When everyone is able or is lying to you, it can go beyond two groups of possibilities. Garza/GAW wasn't the only one lying to everyone.

It makes him self serving while trying to blame others for what he supposedly "had to do" at the very least. There is no excuse or blame for it. You can always walk away. Im not speaking to scott fargos's supposed real character but what he did was his choice forced or not he always had a chance to walk away. Unless he can show garza had a gun to his families head that forced it.

To say he was forced and is innocent whilst doing it is complete bullshit. He should own his actions PixelPowered. More to it or not he walked that path and should own the outcomes of his actions and not palm them to others. Your thoughts Pixel? How many lives would he have ruined that took his advice to heart?

My thoughts are that there's plenty of people and companies to hate or love from these events. Its dependent on their impact on your own life. I think a lot of people are going to be changing their opinions and allegiances once the circus continues and documents are made public.

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July 21, 2016, 10:37:48 PM
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I saw this in Suchmoon's sig and had to view it, but 2300 pages? Damn. Can't believe this thread is still getting activity today.

We gotta accept it guys, I took an 18 month break from Crypto because of losing on this and a few others. I don't even bother with cloud mining now, lol.

Genesis couldn't even give me sensible answers, I kept questioning until they stopped responding. They never did explain to me why my account claims I have hashrate but I never get a payout. lol. Whatever. They're all scams. Like most altcoins are.

I hope this becomes a class action. I wouldn't mind getting my money back. Pretty sure I have my wallet backed up and some old transaction records, but I've long accepted this money to be gone. Sure, it sucks, but like they always say.

Never invest more than you can afford to lose.

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July 21, 2016, 10:48:46 PM
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It's more now of a waiting game and just making fun of it all lol... Charges, I mean... Cheesy
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July 21, 2016, 10:52:08 PM
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It's more now of a waiting game and just making fun of it all lol... Charges, I mean... Cheesy

Haha. Are people still talking about PB too?

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Does whatever excuse he fed you somehow make it so he isn't someone stupid enough to believe garza or scummy enough to spew his bullshit?

I'm having trouble coming up with a scenario that doesn't fit into one of those 2 groups, so whatever the excuse is, he isn't to be trusted/worked with in the future.

QED !

That's why CCN dumped him & why I boycott Bitcoinist. I suggest that everyone should.

(edit for @perryl)  We are still on this thread doing our best to learn the lessons from the fiasco & have them stick.

Players Like Scott Fargo keep popping up like, "Hey guys, I'm back!"  We need to let him know that we have not forgotten...

As long as these GAW / XPY / ION people still roam the planet, we must be vigilant & warn others & keep fighting until we get justice.
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July 22, 2016, 02:43:18 AM
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I saw this in Suchmoon's sig and had to view it, but 2300 pages? Damn. Can't believe this thread is still getting activity today.

We gotta accept it guys, I took an 18 month break from Crypto because of losing on this and a few others. I don't even bother with cloud mining now, lol.

Genesis couldn't even give me sensible answers, I kept questioning until they stopped responding. They never did explain to me why my account claims I have hashrate but I never get a payout. lol. Whatever. They're all scams. Like most altcoins are.

I hope this becomes a class action. I wouldn't mind getting my money back. Pretty sure I have my wallet backed up and some old transaction records, but I've long accepted this money to be gone. Sure, it sucks, but like they always say.

Never invest more than you can afford to lose.

Just saying "never invest more than you can afford to lose" doesn't make you less of an idiot when you fall for an obvious scam like this.

I'm glad your learning since it seems like you are not bothering with cloud mining, but take this as a lesson as to what to look for in teh future.

This thread should live on to show people what to look for and how to tell if you are getting scammed.
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July 22, 2016, 04:53:43 AM
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Shavers was sentenced for 18 months - https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2013/comp-pr2013-132.pdf

I hope Garza gets at least triple that amount. He can't plead he didn't know what he was doing when he purposely made a coin.

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July 22, 2016, 05:26:44 AM
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Shavers was sentenced for 18 months - https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2013/comp-pr2013-132.pdf

I hope Garza gets at least triple that amount. He can't plead he didn't know what he was doing when he purposely made a coin.

LOVING THIS!!

SEC quoted Shavers in his forum --  

Which choice Garza quotes will SEC cite from HashTalk, in their summary??  LMAO

Or maybe Twitter?

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July 22, 2016, 06:02:38 AM
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Shavers was sentenced for 18 months - https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2013/comp-pr2013-132.pdf

I hope Garza gets at least triple that amount. He can't plead he didn't know what he was doing when he purposely made a coin.

LOVING THIS!!

SEC quoted Shavers in his forum --  

Which choice Garza quotes will SEC cite from HashTalk, in their summary??  LMAO

Or maybe Twitter?


I am just curious if he is still living like a thief that stole $20million or is he living like a pauper in some cheap apartment somewhere.

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July 22, 2016, 09:15:20 AM
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Homero burned all his money and I'm sure those close to him stole some since Homero admitted to not even being able to use a paycoin wallet, I hope stu will buy his wife a trailer to live in while Homero is in prison

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July 22, 2016, 03:24:37 PM
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Homero burned all his money and I'm sure those close to him stole some since Homero admitted to not even being able to use a paycoin wallet, I hope stu will buy his wife a trailer to live in while Homero is in prison
Hey! I live in a trailer lol.  My people!

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July 22, 2016, 08:12:08 PM
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Homero burned all his money and I'm sure those close to him stole some since Homero admitted to not even being able to use a paycoin wallet, I hope stu will buy his wife a trailer to live in while Homero is in prison

Allen Shinners, former wannabe GAWMiners employee, then outspoken critic, then business partner with the Usual Suspects & now leader of the GAWsuit, believes that Homero stashed millions offshore in fiat.

He has good reason to believe this & to spend so many hours working on this, and he clearly had access to inside info.

Getting a monetary judgement in his favor, however, and then getting his hands on said funds, moreover, are completely separate & difficult unrealistic expectations, IMO.

I'd love to know what he knows.....
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Homero burned all his money and I'm sure those close to him stole some since Homero admitted to not even being able to use a paycoin wallet, I hope stu will buy his wife a trailer to live in while Homero is in prison

Allen Shinners, former wannabe GAWMiners employee, then outspoken critic, then business partner with the Usual Suspects & now leader of the GAWsuit, believes that Homero stashed millions offshore in fiat.

He has good reason to believe this & to spend so many hours working on this, and he clearly had access to inside info.

Getting a monetary judgement in his favor, however, and then getting his hands on said funds, moreover, are completely separate & difficult unrealistic expectations, IMO.

I'd love to know what he knows.....

I highly highly doubt it. I do believe Homero Googled store money offshore but there's no way he did it successfully. The farthest he went would be to give it to a fake banker/Nigerian. Remember Homero is retarded. But we'll see.

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Homero burned all his money and I'm sure those close to him stole some since Homero admitted to not even being able to use a paycoin wallet, I hope stu will buy his wife a trailer to live in while Homero is in prison

Allen Shinners, former wannabe GAWMiners employee, then outspoken critic, then business partner with the Usual Suspects & now leader of the GAWsuit, believes that Homero stashed millions offshore in fiat.

He has good reason to believe this & to spend so many hours working on this, and he clearly had access to inside info.

Getting a monetary judgement in his favor, however, and then getting his hands on said funds, moreover, are completely separate & difficult unrealistic expectations, IMO.

I'd love to know what he knows.....

I highly highly doubt it. I do believe Homero Googled store money offshore but there's no way he did it successfully. The farthest he went would be to give it to a fake banker/Nigerian. Remember Homero is retarded. But we'll see.

Oh, that is too good.....  Homero asking a "Nigerian Prince" for assistance with his millions!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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