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December 10, 2016, 08:15:20 AM
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https://vtdigger.org/2016/12/09/garza-accused-mastermind-bitcoin-fraud-scheme/

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December 10, 2016, 09:03:42 AM
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When Garza met Fraser, Garza was in high school, and Fraser was a powerful investment banker

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December 10, 2016, 10:02:48 AM
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When Garza met Fraser, Garza was in high school, and Fraser was a powerful investment banker

better love story than twilight

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December 10, 2016, 10:57:45 AM
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from Wikipedia: "Svengali is a fictional character in George du Maurier's 1895 novel Trilby. Svengali is a stereotyped Jewish man who seduces, dominates and exploits Trilby , a young English girl, and makes her a famous singer." 

Didn't he call himself the Hashlet King? lol

I believe Fraser's lawyers nailed this one on the head calling him a modern day Svengali, just maybe the smaller head lol.

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December 10, 2016, 06:50:43 PM
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http://www.reformer.com/stories/making-a-deal-with-the-devil,491686

Ho Ho Ho...Homero!  

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https://vtdigger.org/2016/12/09/garza-accused-mastermind-bitcoin-fraud-scheme/

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While Plaintiffs have now granted Garza a free pass by eliminating him as a defendant, they cannot in good faith take new, inconsistent positions to erase Garza’s actions or now simply substitute Fraser for the very same actions and decisions that they previously claimed were Garza’s.”
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December 10, 2016, 07:32:16 PM
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from Wikipedia: "Svengali is a fictional character in George du Maurier's 1895 novel Trilby. Svengali is a stereotyped Jewish man who seduces, dominates and exploits Trilby , a young English girl, and makes her a famous singer."  

Didn't he call himself the Hashlet King? lol

His Twitter feed used to say, "They call me Hash King. Say Hi."  <------------------  Tongue Tongue Tongue

http://www.reformer.com/stories/making-a-deal-with-the-devil,491686

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In the Nov. 4 filing dismissing Garza from the civil suit, after attorneys engaged in “discussions with Homero Joshua Garza,” Fraser was described as “a mentor and business associate of Garza for over a decade.” The Garza dismissal filing does not reveal what was talked about in those discussions.

....or how much $$BTCBTC$$ exchanged hands!
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December 11, 2016, 12:09:54 AM
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Not sure how I even unearthed this bit of crazy Lutnick/911 conspiracy theory bs, but I thought of you guys ofc! Grin

http://letsrollforums.com//showpost.php?p=263300&postcount=34

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It looks like Howard Lutnick filed a Descendant's Trust in 1999, which contained the names of two 9-11 victims, one of them Gary. The SEC report mentions a descendant's trust with his wife and "one other person", but the one on file with the NY Department of Finance includes Gary F Lutnick, Douglas B Gardner, both listed as 9-11 victims, and Stuart A Fraser.
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December 11, 2016, 11:27:50 AM
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Not sure how I even unearthed this bit of crazy Lutnick/911 conspiracy theory bs, but I thought of you guys ofc! Grin

http://letsrollforums.com//showpost.php?p=263300&postcount=34

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It looks like Howard Lutnick filed a Descendant's Trust in 1999, which contained the names of two 9-11 victims, one of them Gary. The SEC report mentions a descendant's trust with his wife and "one other person", but the one on file with the NY Department of Finance includes Gary F Lutnick, Douglas B Gardner, both listed as 9-11 victims, and Stuart A Fraser.


I'm guessing you are saying Stuart and Gary are one in the same?   I didn't know if you are aware, but Stuart is the grandson of Ira Cantor I believe.

I truly wish some insider could explain all these strange relationships.  Why is such a dufus the VP of Cantor?  Why is he cavorting with Homero, a gentile.

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Good questions, @truckinusa

The timeline of how they met is also contradictory.

In one reported scenario, they knew each other from Fraser's investment in the computer company from 2002:

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In 2002, Garza began Optima Computers in Brattleboro, which offered new computer systems for sale, as well as service and repair of existing computer systems, of which Fraser was an investor.

So Fraser was an investor in his company before they actually "met?"  uh-huh....

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Garza and Fraser have had a business and personal relationship since approximately 2003, when Garza installed internet at Fraser’s house on Lake Dunmore.

SOMETHING DOES NOT ADD UP in this perverted FAIRY TALE......

https://vtdigger.org/2016/12/09/garza-accused-mastermind-bitcoin-fraud-scheme/
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Good questions, @truckinusa

The timeline of how they met is also contradictory.

In one reported scenario, they knew each other from Fraser's investment in the computer company from 2002:

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In 2002, Garza began Optima Computers in Brattleboro, which offered new computer systems for sale, as well as service and repair of existing computer systems, of which Fraser was an investor.

So Fraser was an investor in his company before they actually "met?"  uh-huh....

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Garza and Fraser have had a business and personal relationship since approximately 2003, when Garza installed internet at Fraser’s house on Lake Dunmore.

SOMETHING DOES NOT ADD UP in this perverted FAIRY TALE......

https://vtdigger.org/2016/12/09/garza-accused-mastermind-bitcoin-fraud-scheme/

This is just an example.  If I was given half a million dollars over 10 years there are so many things that I could do with that money to create a business that is legit and also would support my family.  I believe you could at least have a pretty good start on a McDonald's franchise.  I am not saying this is the best investment, but it is sure a whole lot better than optima computers or a bitcoin ponzi called GAW.  Something just doesn't add up. 

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December 12, 2016, 01:40:45 PM
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Has paycoin replaced Bitcoin yet?
Yes but I do not know when it is available and maybe it will become true in the year of 33300
This shit coin was a perfect scam .
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December 12, 2016, 05:59:03 PM
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Good questions, @truckinusa

The timeline of how they met is also contradictory.

In one reported scenario, they knew each other from Fraser's investment in the computer company from 2002:

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In 2002, Garza began Optima Computers in Brattleboro, which offered new computer systems for sale, as well as service and repair of existing computer systems, of which Fraser was an investor.

So Fraser was an investor in his company before they actually "met?"  uh-huh....

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Garza and Fraser have had a business and personal relationship since approximately 2003, when Garza installed internet at Fraser’s house on Lake Dunmore.

SOMETHING DOES NOT ADD UP in this perverted FAIRY TALE......

https://vtdigger.org/2016/12/09/garza-accused-mastermind-bitcoin-fraud-scheme/

In 1995, Jeff Bezos began Amazon.com, of which suchmoon was an investor - doesn't mean that suchmoon was buddies with Bezos in 1995 and/or an early Amazon investor. Suchmoon could have bought some Amazon shares years later. Wording could be better but it's technically correct.

This is just an example.  If I was given half a million dollars over 10 years there are so many things that I could do with that money to create a business that is legit and also would support my family.  I believe you could at least have a pretty good start on a McDonald's franchise.  I am not saying this is the best investment, but it is sure a whole lot better than optima computers or a bitcoin ponzi called GAW.  Something just doesn't add up. 

I still find if incredible that Fraser could have fallen for Garza's bullshit, but if I squint just right I guess I could imagine this being remotely possible:

1) Garza may have known a thing or two about computers back in 2003, at least a bit more than Fraser. Combined with some bullshit "business plan" he may have been able to convince Fraser to invest a small amount into his "business".

2) Perhaps the computer business wasn't a total flop, at least not before they pivoted to the ISP business. Not sure if that was Garza's idea or Fraser's, but they seem to have had a reasonably good run with it.

3) After two successful (according to Garza's definition of "successful", i.e. being able to lease a Ferrari) ventures Fraser may have been inclined to open his wallet a bit more when confronted with new buzzwords like "bitcoin".

However I'm still puzzled by Fraser's inability - IN 10+ YEARS - to figure out how full of shit Garza was. Most sane people and even many of his fervent supporters figured him out in a few weeks/months.
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In 1995, Jeff Bezos began Amazon.com, of which suchmoon was an investor - doesn't mean that suchmoon was buddies with Bezos in 1995 and/or an early Amazon investor. Suchmoon could have bought some Amazon shares years later. Wording could be better but it's technically correct.

A good analogy in some ways, but....

Even though Garza THINKS he's as big as Amazon (and will be partners with XPY!!! SOON!!!) a one-boy operation would surely have had knowledge of & contact with a major start-up investor.


Did Garza actually "start" the company, or start working at it in 2002?

Keep at it, Cyber Sleuths!

You guys are MUCH better at math than Garbanzo. Keep adding up the clues!
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December 12, 2016, 06:57:36 PM
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Has paycoin replaced Bitcoin yet?

not yet, but very soon. it's still cheap!!!

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December 12, 2016, 10:10:37 PM
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It would also be nice to know why Garza is biting the hand that has fed him for so many years?  Supposing they had a falling out it would still be in his best interest to rekindle the relationship to keep the money flowing like it has for 10 years.  The 'Making a deal with the Devil' seems like a total charade.  What would it hurt Garza to have a court ruled against him when he has nothing to pay back in a civil judgement?  He just declares bankruptcy and moves on.

New Ion wallet released today on Google play.  Wonder if it is really secure like they claim?

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December 12, 2016, 10:35:46 PM
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New Ion wallet released today on Google play.  Wonder if it is really secure like they claim?

HAH!  Let's ask @Shinta_Dekay   Grin
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Business Name: OPTIMA COMPUTERS LLC Business ID: 0005784
Business Type: Domestic Limited Liability Company Business Status: Dissolved
Dissolved Date: 11/30/2009
LLC Subtype: Member Managed Did the LLC have members at the time of filing? No
Business Description: CMPUTER SALES & SERVICE  Fiscal Year Month: 6
Date of Incorporation / Registration Date: 07/07/2003   

Designated Office Business Address: 118 MAIN STREET, BRATTLEBORO, VT, 05301, USA Designated Office Mailing Address: 118 MAIN STREET, BRATTLEBORO, VT, 05301, USA
Citizenship / State of Incorporation: Domestic/VT  Last Annual Report Year: 2008

Name/Title: JOSH GARZA/Member Physical Address: 118 MAIN STREET, BRATTLEBORO

Here's a tour of the new store in 2016:  https://www.flickr.com/photos/joshgarza/with/208578517/

Also Uncle Stu mingling with the riffraff in the same year:  https://www.flickr.com/photos/joshgarza/page13



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