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Dorman, Dorkman....You say potato, I say potatoVery telling that this is STILL ON BLOOMBERG.com!!  His greatest claim to fame:  L.O.S.E.R.
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Dorman, Dorkman....You say potato, I say potatoVery telling that this is STILL ON BLOOMBERG.com!!  His greatest claim to fame:  L.O.S.E.R. Let's travel further down this rabbit hole: https://twitter.com/miaviator/followershttps://twitter.com/BonzaiCrypto/with_replieshttps://web.archive.org/web/20150328165635/http://www.badbitcoin.org/gaw.htm Our position regarding GAW and Paycoin. These unsupported "indisputable facts" versus the reality.
There has been a very vocal campaign against the previously highly regarded supplier, GAW Miners, and going even further targeting their CEO Josh Garza, and has also questioned our position on these matters. In response to this, I am issuing the following unambiguous statement.
We do not share the opinion that this operation,or Mr Garza are intending to defraud, or have defrauded any investor in Hashlets, Hashstakers, Paycoin XPY, or any other product or service supplied by GAW or it's companies. We are not associated with these companies beyond personal & private holdings of Hashstakers, Zen Hashlets and XPY Paycoin, and are not paid by these companies. They are accused of reneging on contracts, there is no evidence of this. Reneging on promises. There were never price promises, beyond individual expectation of market value, and the anticipated $20 floor, a concept since reformed into the honours program, which whilst indefinitely delayed, pending the resolving of legal issues, is still very much active. Some proposed features have been shelved, delayed, or abandoned due to direct effects of the current hate campaign, and other features have since been proposed, some are better. Leaked emails, widely circulated, have been obtained illegally and are legally confidential. They must be disregarded due to their origin being from a hacked external, and uncredited anonymous source. The hacking of privileged company resources also indicates that the hacker may easily have fabricated these emails using hijacked services, or had physical access to those resources.
Neither GAW, Zencloud or any other GAW operation, has at this time, directly or indirectly defrauded anybody regarding the conversion to hashstakers and XPY. This was always a choice, freely chosen by the individual. The campaign against GAW is a phenomenon that is unprecedented, and has become almost a cult. The vehemence of these detractors - the majority of whom are non investors - has had a visible effect on trust and wider adoption of this XPY. This campaign was fuelled by a core few individuals, would be members of a kind of informal 'old guard' of Crypto. It is an indefensible action. We cannot accept any of these third party, sometimes absurd allegations as hard evidence, neither can anybody else who does not have unrestricted access to confidential original company accounts, minutes of meetings and internal and external correspondence. Therefore, were we to conclude that there was a scam going on, it would be pure conjecture, and that is morally and professionally irresponsible, and would leave us fairly justly liable, to prosecution for libellous actions. The majority of the supposed evidence so far, has no covenance and in some cases is even unknown of by the correspondents. Being unverifiable non original data, it is simply not worthy of consideration for any practical purpose. GAW are also a registered company, with a strong track record. We have no desire to participate in any clearly orchestrated campaign against a hard working company.
Where we list other registered companies, it is always after confirming beyond doubt, that the company is using faked covenance, or is non-existent. We aren't here to investigate legal entities, already subject to outside audit.
I will finish by saying that personally, I am pretty adept at spotting a fraud. I do not believe that any deliberate attempt is being made to defraud anybody by Josh Garza. I do believe that the real damage being done to investors is due to this core group of 'haters' who resent this innovation and this rightly perceived threat to their own interests, and as such are prepared to originate and fuel this disinformation, not excluding illegally obtaining discreditable and confidential correspondence.
This is not intended as investment advice.
Ultimately, there will be a definitive outcome to this ongoing debacle. We'd like to come out of it with our integrity intact as well.
ViK. Editor & Project Lead. March 24th 2015 Meet Vik: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=239843
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August 15, 2017, 04:40:52 AM |
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I guess it comes as no surprise that even The Penguin has GAWeletons in his closet, eh? To say again, I knew that GAW was a scam when I spoke with Joe on the phone at the onset of their endeavor, with Joe not even knowing about the massive tornado that passed literally a block from some Mississippi warehouse he claimed he personally owned that was going to be used as one of GAW's mining centers. After a brief pause, Joe then said, "Oh yeah, that tornado. It didn't do any damage to the warehouse." Yet most the town was destroyed. Hell, maybe Joe briefly used the warehouse as a homeless or distribution center during the aftermath but forgot that also.
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August 15, 2017, 04:46:12 AM |
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And, we infer, you are also exposing this Keith Taylor guy as @BadBitcoin?
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August 15, 2017, 07:44:27 AM |
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i wanna know why nobody has stuck a rocket up marshall long ass. he and jim blasko did an ico for eboost on bittrex ran with the money delivered nothing and have been quiet ever since. how are they not in jail?
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August 15, 2017, 02:02:55 PM |
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And, we infer, you are also exposing this Keith Taylor guy as @BadBitcoin?
With apologies, I inferred that there could be a strong connection, with your expressed assessment not being my intent. I'm curious as to who ViK is, with others referring to the entity as a 'her'. Vicky first comes to mind. What was Garza wife's name? I would do the research but my asshole is saying to me that it's time to take a Marshall-Long shit.
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August 15, 2017, 02:09:02 PM |
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Solar eclipse is next week.  ok...let me rephrase that a bit more clearly. I meant tomorrow (today) is the last update of Bitcointalk post activity before next week’s eclipse on 8/21. Just retrofitted my telescope with sun filter. That day will be legendary even if I'm not! 
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August 15, 2017, 02:30:01 PM |
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Solar eclipse is next week.  ok...let me rephrase that a bit more clearly. I meant tomorrow (today) is the last update of Bitcointalk post activity before next week’s eclipse on 8/21. Just retrofitted my telescope with sun filter. That day will be legendary even if I'm not!  "It's an eclipse! Eclipses are fun, go right now, don't walk - RUN!"
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August 15, 2017, 03:45:04 PM |
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I haven't followed the last few dozen pages I am just wondering what is the magic date when his sentencing will be???
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WTF! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Garza*All_charges_dropped All charges dropped? All charges have been dropped against Josh Garza of GAW et al. due to illegally obtained evidence. The arresting officers[14] themselves have been arrested for obstruction of justice. I can't read any more. 
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August 15, 2017, 07:12:20 PM |
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"The parties jointly request a continuance of the sentencing in this matter currently set for October 12, 2017. The parties make this request, in part, due to the various scheduling obligations of counsel in this matter. The parties respectfully request a continuance until January 2017," the file notes. Time traveling to last January? 
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August 15, 2017, 09:25:43 PM |
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"The parties jointly request a continuance of the sentencing in this matter currently set for October 12, 2017. The parties make this request, in part, due to the various scheduling obligations of counsel in this matter. The parties respectfully request a continuance until January 2017," the file notes. Time traveling to last January?  Misprint! For a sec, I thought I made a mistake, it coming across as a joke where I needed to apologize given that I may or may not have done such most recently. 
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"The parties jointly request a continuance of the sentencing in this matter currently set for October 12, 2017. The parties make this request, in part, due to the various scheduling obligations of counsel in this matter. The parties respectfully request a continuance until January 2017," the file notes. Time traveling to last January?  Bwwwwwwwwwwwwahahahaha. Called it!I predicted after January (2018) for incarceration. Works for me.
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August 18, 2017, 06:21:29 AM |
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Isn't anyone pissed off at the judge for allowing this? Just doesn't seem right.
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August 18, 2017, 06:54:27 AM |
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As a bot I think I can speak for the entire world when I say, "YEP! We're ALL PISSED! & have been for a couple of years now..." So he'll linger in the PEN that much later. Whatever. @Truckinusa did you get hacked? 
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August 18, 2017, 08:33:07 AM |
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"The parties jointly request a continuance of the sentencing in this matter currently set for October 12, 2017. The parties make this request, in part, due to the various scheduling obligations of counsel in this matter. The parties respectfully request a continuance until January 2017," the file notes. Time traveling to last January?  Bwwwwwwwwwwwwahahahaha. Called it!I predicted January (2018) for incarceration. Works for me. Try again! January 2018, is the sentencing hearing, not the start of incarceration. The judge will give JG a couple months to get his affairs in order being sending him to some minimum-security prison for a few months. Hey, maybe he'll read the same books that Charlie Shrem read between Josh getting fucked in the ass.
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August 19, 2017, 10:34:47 AM |
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As a bot I think I can speak for the entire world when I say, "YEP! We're ALL PISSED! & have been for a couple of years now..." So he'll linger in the PEN that much later. Whatever. @Truckinusa did you get hacked?  Yeah I got hacked. Not much you can do about it if the account doesn't have a bitcoin address tied to it. I didn't know that. I don't really get what the purpose is in hacking a forum account? It seems like a good attorney will normally delay as much as he can. Its really a sick system. It is highly likely that the judge and him are buddies and golf together on the weekends. Maybe if we all drop a kind note to the judge that we are not happy it may make a difference? I get a month delay but 3 months? Come on!
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