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June 20, 2015, 03:38:08 AM
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why are people still playing along with the team xpy xpy trust btc lend bullshit?

Aren't all of them just the same shitheads that worked for GAW, did nothing, and NOW will fix everything?

Some didn't work for GAW but lost a ton of money and are hoping to make it back.

The ones who are playing along don't have anything to lose I guess. After 99% decline there isn't really much choice is there? Smiley

In any case, so far I haven't seen any real value being added to the coin and after what kke01 posted today about the hangout it doesn't look any better.
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June 20, 2015, 04:03:16 AM
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yes all old keys would be destroyed and they didnt say anything about cashtakers

is the mini garza saying what i think hes saying? (doesnt want to fulfill KYC procedure personally)



edit: indeed Crestington it could happen again. they could distribute,bid&burn (and maybe temp solution for leaking, consensus removal) via blockchain too. but no its fully manual  Cool

I would nominate Paul Revere to "own the bidding process". Anything short of that would be a fox in a hen house.

Own? Hell I would totally Pwn the bidding process!

^ You would PAWN the bidding process? /s  I like it! Very Garbanzo-Style
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June 20, 2015, 04:17:28 AM
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Garbanzo going Radio-Silent as the Stakers dump into a Super Massive Black Hole reminds me of the 24 hours before & 24 hours after the Feb. 1 non-launch of the Dis-"Honors Program," when people around the globe waited up all hours for the announcement, but got nary a word...and nothing happened...

...but nothing happened very quietly.

I wonder where all the CashTaker coins will go?

If they have any sense at all, they will funnel them all into a Legal Defense Fund.
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June 20, 2015, 09:24:35 AM
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why are people still playing along with the team xpy xpy trust btc lend bullshit?

Aren't all of them just the same shitheads that worked for GAW, did nothing, and NOW will fix everything?

some bagholders don't want to lose. that's why some people are still in the game.

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June 20, 2015, 10:37:15 AM
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Why are people so attracted premine?
Do they think that the creators of the new coins which drew 90% of its capital will maintain its value.
Developers will always be beneficial to organize a big advertising campaign and then sell your premine and come up with a story about a hacker attack or hacking into their servers.
After that they disappear with the money of investors and create new coin.
That is exactly what happened to paycoin.
Now these guys appeared under a new name BitStone https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1088486.0

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June 20, 2015, 10:40:14 AM
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Hey Vik,
Please put up some more BTC and help the price of XPY go to the moon. It is a win-win for all of us. You will become rich very soontm and help cleanse BTC from muggles!
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June 20, 2015, 12:06:43 PM
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Why are people so attracted premine?
Do they think that the creators of the new coins which drew 90% of its capital will maintain its value.
Developers will always be beneficial to organize a big advertising campaign and then sell your premine and come up with a story about a hacker attack or hacking into their servers.
After that they disappear with the money of investors and create new coin.
That is exactly what happened to paycoin.
Now these guys appeared under a new name BitStone https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1088486.0

This one at least has the excuse that some people were pushed into paycoin because the hashlet  ponzi failed.

These other copycats are just idiots who don't realize why paycoin failed or scumbags who know exactly why and are trying to copy it and get theirs.
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June 20, 2015, 01:28:10 PM
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Why are people so attracted premine?
Do they think that the creators of the new coins which drew 90% of its capital will maintain its value.
Developers will always be beneficial to organize a big advertising campaign and then sell your premine and come up with a story about a hacker attack or hacking into their servers.
After that they disappear with the money of investors and create new coin.
That is exactly what happened to paycoin.
Now these guys appeared under a new name BitStone https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1088486.0

This one at least has the excuse that some people were pushed into paycoin because the hashlet  ponzi failed.

These other copycats are just idiots who don't realize why paycoin failed or scumbags who know exactly why and are trying to copy it and get theirs.

Garza's main narrative to the whole fiasco seems to have been that trolls destroyed everything and a surprising number of people still believe that. If you look at the BitStone thread you see people preemptively taking that position. It's the damn trolls set out to destroy the coin before it even launched so when it fails that will have nothing to do with the lack of business logic behind it, and the shady math, and all the other 998 red flags adorning it.
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June 20, 2015, 02:24:47 PM
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The fake support has been pulled. There was ~100 BTC of Buy Bids on the books yesterday. Today is 54 total.


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/xpybtc

Any news on the Hashtaker coins yet? Are whatever batch of crooks is in charge of that just going to keep them?

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June 20, 2015, 03:35:34 PM
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The fake support has been pulled. There was ~100 BTC of Buy Bids on the books yesterday. Today is 54 total.


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/xpybtc

Any news on the Hashtaker coins yet? Are whatever batch of crooks is in charge of that just going to keep them?

I'm betting those coins have been gone and were never tied to the cashtakers directly.

 
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June 20, 2015, 03:40:18 PM
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The fake support has been pulled. There was ~100 BTC of Buy Bids on the books yesterday. Today is 54 total.


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/xpybtc

Any news on the Hashtaker coins yet? Are whatever batch of crooks is in charge of that just going to keep them?

I'm betting those coins have been gone and were never tied to the cashtakers directly.

Yep. I think the pool was cleaned long time ago. possibly from Garza

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June 20, 2015, 03:41:38 PM
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The fake support has been pulled. There was ~100 BTC of Buy Bids on the books yesterday. Today is 54 total.


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/xpybtc

Any news on the Hashtaker coins yet? Are whatever batch of crooks is in charge of that just going to keep them?

I'm betting those coins have been gone and were never tied to the cashtakers directly.

It has been stated that the Hashtaker coins and those set aside for payouts (which have continued for the most part) were part of the 4.6 million XPY group that was "stolen" from GAW/Garza, and that they would be taken from the remaining ~1.6 million in this address (~3 million has been sent to exchanges and dumped and others spread out on PCs and other holding addresses). Not to say this means "they" will keep their word about giving the coins back, but they do exist.

All of my posts are simply statements of my own personal opinions based on available information and pondering what might be possible considering human nature, with the goal of finding truth and preventing fraud. Please look at all of the facts and theories and put your thinking cap on to draw your own conclusions. If you feel that I have made a false statement or have been unnecessarily derogatory, I encourage you to please point it out, and if proven correct and/or reasonable I will remedy it. ~ Paul Revere
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June 20, 2015, 03:49:49 PM
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The fake support has been pulled. There was ~100 BTC of Buy Bids on the books yesterday. Today is 54 total.


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/xpybtc

Any news on the Hashtaker coins yet? Are whatever batch of crooks is in charge of that just going to keep them?

I'm betting those coins have been gone and were never tied to the cashtakers directly.

It has been stated that the Hashtaker coins and those set aside for payouts (which have continued for the most part) were part of the 4.6 million XPY group that was "stolen" from GAW/Garza, and that they would be taken from the remaining ~1.6 million in this address (~3 million has been sent to exchanges and dumped and others spread out on PCs and other holding addresses). Not to say this means "they" will keep their word about giving the coins back, but they do exist.

by gone I meant that someone has them, but no direct tie to the cashtaker "investors" PNG's

 
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June 20, 2015, 05:41:59 PM
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http://bitcoinist.net/interview-economics-professor-bitcoin-problems/

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Sergio: Can you elaborate a bit about the last paragraph? Where does Bitcoin have a problem or where do you see the problems?

Chris: For me the first issue is that Bitcoin has a very big image problem. Bitcoin has been and is currently being rocked left and right by scammers and frauds. The first big fraud/”hacking” scam was Mt. Gox, that drew the attention of the general media. This generated a huge negative image with a lot of people and scared a lot of investors away from Bitcoin. After that the image of Bitcoin got repaired a bit but then Josh Garza and his scamming practices came along.

And guess who is commenting on this article ... the muggle of all the muggles Vik.
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June 20, 2015, 05:59:27 PM
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http://bitcoinist.net/interview-economics-professor-bitcoin-problems/

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Sergio: Can you elaborate a bit about the last paragraph? Where does Bitcoin have a problem or where do you see the problems?

Chris: For me the first issue is that Bitcoin has a very big image problem. Bitcoin has been and is currently being rocked left and right by scammers and frauds. The first big fraud/”hacking” scam was Mt. Gox, that drew the attention of the general media. This generated a huge negative image with a lot of people and scared a lot of investors away from Bitcoin. After that the image of Bitcoin got repaired a bit but then Josh Garza and his scamming practices came along.

And guess who is commenting on this article ... the muggle of all the muggles Vik.

And the scams keep sprouting from the corpse of Garza's GAW/Paycoin scam. The latest one is what appears to be a direct clone of Paycoin and it's "CAF" model, called BitStone. It is mainly being run by Dr. Keith Harville , aka "Whocares" here and on HT, now using several sock puppets on this forum. You would think he could buy a couple of decent shills with all of those fancy rocks he says he has. Here is the latest:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1088486.220  Archive: https://archive.is/hqXrV
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1088486.msg11669248;topicseen#msg11669248 Archive: https://archive.is/PLPXn

That is some pretty lame ass shill trolling. They are making the devs and the coin look worse with every post.

All of my posts are simply statements of my own personal opinions based on available information and pondering what might be possible considering human nature, with the goal of finding truth and preventing fraud. Please look at all of the facts and theories and put your thinking cap on to draw your own conclusions. If you feel that I have made a false statement or have been unnecessarily derogatory, I encourage you to please point it out, and if proven correct and/or reasonable I will remedy it. ~ Paul Revere
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June 20, 2015, 06:01:21 PM
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http://bitcoinist.net/interview-economics-professor-bitcoin-problems/

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Sergio: Can you elaborate a bit about the last paragraph? Where does Bitcoin have a problem or where do you see the problems?

Chris: For me the first issue is that Bitcoin has a very big image problem. Bitcoin has been and is currently being rocked left and right by scammers and frauds. The first big fraud/”hacking” scam was Mt. Gox, that drew the attention of the general media. This generated a huge negative image with a lot of people and scared a lot of investors away from Bitcoin. After that the image of Bitcoin got repaired a bit but then Josh Garza and his scamming practices came along.

And guess who is commenting on this article ... the muggle of all the muggles Vik.

And the scams keep sprouting from the corpse of Garza's GAW/Paycoin scam. The latest one is what appears to be a direct clone of Paycoin and it's "CAF" model, called BitStone. It is mainly being run by Dr. Keith Harville , aka "Whocares" here and on HT, now using several sock puppets on this forum. You would think he could buy a couple of decent shills with all of those fancy rocks he says he has. Here is the latest:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1088486.220  Archive: https://archive.is/hqXrV
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1088486.msg11669248;topicseen#msg11669248 Archive: https://archive.is/PLPXn

That is some pretty lame ass shill trolling. They are making the devs and the coin look worse with every post.


looks just like any other scam. I hope this time people are going to avoid it...

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June 20, 2015, 06:11:28 PM
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http://bitcoinist.net/interview-economics-professor-bitcoin-problems/

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Sergio: Can you elaborate a bit about the last paragraph? Where does Bitcoin have a problem or where do you see the problems?

Chris: For me the first issue is that Bitcoin has a very big image problem. Bitcoin has been and is currently being rocked left and right by scammers and frauds. The first big fraud/”hacking” scam was Mt. Gox, that drew the attention of the general media. This generated a huge negative image with a lot of people and scared a lot of investors away from Bitcoin. After that the image of Bitcoin got repaired a bit but then Josh Garza and his scamming practices came along.

And guess who is commenting on this article ... the muggle of all the muggles Vik.

And the scams keep sprouting from the corpse of Garza's GAW/Paycoin scam. The latest one is what appears to be a direct clone of Paycoin and it's "CAF" model, called BitStone. It is mainly being run by Dr. Keith Harville , aka "Whocares" here and on HT, now using several sock puppets on this forum. You would think he could buy a couple of decent shills with all of those fancy rocks he says he has. Here is the latest:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1088486.220  Archive: https://archive.is/hqXrV
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1088486.msg11669248;topicseen#msg11669248 Archive: https://archive.is/PLPXn

That is some pretty lame ass shill trolling. They are making the devs and the coin look worse with every post.

It seems like something Vik should consider promoting and shilling for.
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http://bitcoinist.net/interview-economics-professor-bitcoin-problems/

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Sergio: Can you elaborate a bit about the last paragraph? Where does Bitcoin have a problem or where do you see the problems?

Chris: For me the first issue is that Bitcoin has a very big image problem. Bitcoin has been and is currently being rocked left and right by scammers and frauds. The first big fraud/”hacking” scam was Mt. Gox, that drew the attention of the general media. This generated a huge negative image with a lot of people and scared a lot of investors away from Bitcoin. After that the image of Bitcoin got repaired a bit but then Josh Garza and his scamming practices came along.

And guess who is commenting on this article ... the muggle of all the muggles Vik.

And the scams keep sprouting from the corpse of Garza's GAW/Paycoin scam. The latest one is what appears to be a direct clone of Paycoin and it's "CAF" model, called BitStone. It is mainly being run by Dr. Keith Harville , aka "Whocares" here and on HT, now using several sock puppets on this forum. You would think he could buy a couple of decent shills with all of those fancy rocks he says he has. Here is the latest:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1088486.220  Archive: https://archive.is/hqXrV
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1088486.msg11669248;topicseen#msg11669248 Archive: https://archive.is/PLPXn

That is some pretty lame ass shill trolling. They are making the devs and the coin look worse with every post.

It seems like something Vik should consider promoting and shilling for.

LOL It is perfect for him/her. And this time instead of a stupid $100 million cash CAF, it is backed with bindles of shiny rocks:




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LOL It is perfect for him/her. And this time instead of a stupid $100 million cash CAF, it is backed with bindles of shiny rocks:





Oh I remember long ago, when this one first came out, I laughed so goddamn hard, I still love it! Wink

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June 20, 2015, 07:03:20 PM
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LOL It is perfect for him/her. And this time instead of a stupid $100 million cash CAF, it is backed with bindles of shiny rocks:

https://i.imgflip.com/n6a48.jpg



Oh I remember long ago, when this one first came out, I laughed so goddamn hard, I still love it! Wink

I miss Tron, Lil Jon and the cracky Tyrone.  Cheesy
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