GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[shveicar]

I think that the fair price for paycoin is 1 cent. And we see it in the near future 
Fools buy paycoin not even thinking about that 12 million coins were drawn one stroke of the pen

How did you figure that "fair price" out? I think the actual "fair price" would be that it would reach if ALL of the 10+ millions of coins held by those that got them for free dumped them into the market. My guess would be in the 100-200 Satoshi range, right alongside Titcoin on the charts.

Maybe you're right..
You can never accurately calculate the true value of the coin with premine

Even if it had no premine: why would a fucked up PPC clone with hardcoded hyperinflation wallets aka "prime controllers" as only "innovation" have ANY value?

it is not in Innovations, this is human greed and stupidity.
People were looking at an artificial capitalization and price $ 20, they buy it.
They also believed in the big promises about the new service, integration Paypal and other tales
Normal coin always grows from the bottom up. But  paycoin grow top -> down

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[kken01]

huge drama with xpy community and btclend scamlord cmilian  

https://paycointalk.org/topic/81/btclend-is-a-sc-m-end-of-story
https://archive.is/tknVA

https://paycointalk.org/topic/99/leaving-paycointalk
https://archive.is/E4CEt


also lendcoin will have a cool 'patent pending' centralized information storage for people to hack



garza-like tactics for building customer base (he is getting xpy from people converting their shitcoin to a scamcoin)




threatening litigation against people calling it a scam  


edit:
joe and allen giving advice or are part of it
https://paycointalk.org/topic/95/btclend-what-you-should-really-know
https://archive.is/ZA0M2

supposedly he is using his kid (minor) to sell large chunks of xpy (50k+) and shill for the scamcoin & "shop"

[Subtuppel]

I think that the fair price for paycoin is 1 cent. And we see it in the near future 
Fools buy paycoin not even thinking about that 12 million coins were drawn one stroke of the pen

How did you figure that "fair price" out? I think the actual "fair price" would be that it would reach if ALL of the 10+ millions of coins held by those that got them for free dumped them into the market. My guess would be in the 100-200 Satoshi range, right alongside Titcoin on the charts.

Maybe you're right..
You can never accurately calculate the true value of the coin with premine

Even if it had no premine: why would a fucked up PPC clone with hardcoded hyperinflation wallets aka "prime controllers" as only "innovation" have ANY value?

it is not in Innovations, this is human greed and stupidity.
People were looking at an artificial capitalization and price $ 20, they buy it.
They also believed in the big promises about the new service, integration Paypal and other tales
Normal coin always grows from the bottom up. But  paycoin grow top -> down

I know all that. it does not explain why XPY should have 1 cent per unit or any value at all NOW moths after every single promise turned out to be a blatant lie.

[Wintermute420]

I know all that. it does not explain why XPY should have 1 cent per unit or any value at all NOW moths after every single promise turned out to be a blatant lie.
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Its simple really.  All of the bagholders don't want to accept the fact that its worthless.  So they will buy and sell the crap.  If the muggles ever wake and dump the junk then it really will be worthless.  But I don't see that happening anytime soon.  They are too busy trying to change the coin's "image".  Not that it will ever work.  

[Paul Revere]

huge drama with xpy community and btclend scamlord cmilian  

https://paycointalk.org/topic/81/btclend-is-a-sc-m-end-of-story
https://archive.is/tknVA

https://paycointalk.org/topic/99/leaving-paycointalk
https://archive.is/E4CEt


also lendcoin will have a cool 'patent pending' centralized information storage for people to hack



garza-like tactics for building customer base (he is getting xpy from people converting their shitcoin to a scamcoin)




threatening litigation against people calling it a scam  


edit:
joe and allen giving advice or are part of it
https://paycointalk.org/topic/95/btclend-what-you-should-really-know
https://archive.is/ZA0M2

supposedly he is using his kid (minor) to sell large chunks of xpy (50k+) and shill for the scamcoin & "shop"

"We have too much XPY!!" LMAO. He is starting to admit that he is in cahoots with SOMEONE who has an infinite supply of XPY (Or is openly selling BTClend customer deposited coins).  It reminds of a late night appliance store commercial. "Come on down to CRAZY CARMELO'S coinscam-o-rama! We have too many coins!! Crazy Carmelo is GIVING away coins!!! supply's limited"

[highwalker]

huge drama with xpy community and btclend scamlord cmilian  

https://paycointalk.org/topic/81/btclend-is-a-sc-m-end-of-story
https://archive.is/tknVA

https://paycointalk.org/topic/99/leaving-paycointalk
https://archive.is/E4CEt


also lendcoin will have a cool 'patent pending' centralized information storage for people to hack



garza-like tactics for building customer base (he is getting xpy from people converting their shitcoin to a scamcoin)




threatening litigation against people calling it a scam  


edit:
joe and allen giving advice or are part of it
https://paycointalk.org/topic/95/btclend-what-you-should-really-know
https://archive.is/ZA0M2

supposedly he is using his kid (minor) to sell large chunks of xpy (50k+) and shill for the scamcoin & "shop"

I can't understand how they seem to coin these acronyms - CIM?? Cum in Mouth? Whats the next platform coming out? BBBJ?

[SockPuppetAccount]

huge drama with xpy community and btclend scamlord cmilian  

https://paycointalk.org/topic/81/btclend-is-a-sc-m-end-of-story
https://archive.is/tknVA

https://paycointalk.org/topic/99/leaving-paycointalk
https://archive.is/E4CEt


also lendcoin will have a cool 'patent pending' centralized information storage for people to hack



garza-like tactics for building customer base (he is getting xpy from people converting their shitcoin to a scamcoin)




threatening litigation against people calling it a scam  


edit:
joe and allen giving advice or are part of it
https://paycointalk.org/topic/95/btclend-what-you-should-really-know
https://archive.is/ZA0M2

supposedly he is using his kid (minor) to sell large chunks of xpy (50k+) and shill for the scamcoin & "shop"

I can't understand how they seem to coin these acronyms - CIM?? Cum in Mouth? Whats the next platform coming out? BBBJ?

You realize the only people who know those 2 particular acronyms are people who bang escorts and read escort review forums right?  The vast majority of the general population wouldn't know that.  Not judging you for your hobbies, I have no room to talk as I know what those acronyms mean as well.

[Phildo]

I can't understand how they seem to coin these acronyms - CIM?? Cum in Mouth? Whats the next platform coming out? BBBJ?

They just make shit up so that they sound smart. people with functioning brains realize it makes no sense and stay away (this is good for the scammer because they don't want smart people asking questions/holding them accountable). Idiots are to embarrassed to question these things because they don't want it to look like they don't understand, and they are perfect marks for the scammers. That's why nigerian scammers put in the typos. It's not because they're idiots, they're narrowing down their target pool.

[jbreher]

Speaking of Honors...  



Soon^TM

One of the few unbroken 'contractual' agreements in PayCoinVille. Read it again.













Of course, lacking any consideration, it is not truly a contract, but it remains an unbroken agreement.

[favdesu]

huge drama with xpy community and btclend scamlord cmilian  

https://paycointalk.org/topic/81/btclend-is-a-sc-m-end-of-story
https://archive.is/tknVA

https://paycointalk.org/topic/99/leaving-paycointalk
https://archive.is/E4CEt


also lendcoin will have a cool 'patent pending' centralized information storage for people to hack



garza-like tactics for building customer base (he is getting xpy from people converting their shitcoin to a scamcoin)




threatening litigation against people calling it a scam  


edit:
joe and allen giving advice or are part of it
https://paycointalk.org/topic/95/btclend-what-you-should-really-know
https://archive.is/ZA0M2

supposedly he is using his kid (minor) to sell large chunks of xpy (50k+) and shill for the scamcoin & "shop"

"We have too much XPY!!" LMAO. He is starting to admit that he is in cahoots with SOMEONE who has an infinite supply of XPY (Or is openly selling BTClend customer deposited coins).  It reminds of a late night appliance store commercial. "Come on down to CRAZY CARMELO'S coinscam-o-rama! We have too many coins!! Crazy Carmelo is GIVING away coins!!! supply's limited"

at least cmillian is working hard to deliver a good spinoff. unfortunately, he won't reach Garza level of stupidity... we can only hope for the best

[Paul Revere]

BTClend largest wallet: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJ7eYpspyanPo8AFyzeXmVhU5N37YST8aG.htm

Pic not showing stakes or deposits, just withdrawals. This wallet is online staking every day- while Carmelo lies and says all the depositors XPY is safely stored in cold wallets. I have now traced over 500,000 XPY going directly to exchanges in large chunks from BTClend, ~200,000 of which went from known masses of premine , bounced through BTClend, and then straight to Cryptsy or Bittrex. Mixing/Laundering XPY for someone.  The rest is from actual BTClend depositors and PC scrape . All 200,000 XPY dumped by BTClend this week traces back to actual depositors with BTClend.


200,000 XPY sent DIRECTLY to Cryptsy this past week, and a few over to Bittrex as well.

100,000 in this transaction on 6/24: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?744923.htm



and 100,000 more in this transaction on 6/26 : https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?750617.htm



And Carmelo sits on his forum Joshing the Paycoin Hamsters, lying directly to their faces and playing with them, leading them into his new scamcoin/Paycoin scam life extension. Posting that chart of Paycoin crashing hard in the past couple days while the lying fuck is happily dumping their deposited coins from BTClend, shorting the market with their coins, is some seriously fucked up pathological behavior. The Joshtickness and sheer in-your-face lying scambaggery of this BTClend operation stinks like Homero himself.

[kken01]

supposedly cmilian and his son have gathered around 700 000 xpy (this is cmilians estimate so take it with a truckload of salt. it could be an estimation from current rate of exchange or just a lie) from people converting to lendcoin with another promised floor price
if i recall right they had around 1.5mil customer xpy staking at some point. so even the most optimistic estimate would be less than 50% conversion

who knows how much they have made by shorting xpy and now they are trying to sell xpy off the exchanges in huge chunks so price wont crash. at every turn he has tried to downplay xpy to get more people into his scamcoin. he knows he wont get customers from the wider community with his style of marketing  communication skills of a turtle

he is fully non-transparent. working in secrecy with no real communication or accountability. any legitimate questions you might have and he will say "im off to work. you can send questions to customer support". he even had to leave xpy forums because lendcoin is fully centralized with identification servers (i havent seen any docs how this will work in reality. 3rd parties can obtain one that would contain that parties customer info, is that shared between all servers and how etc) they have to obtain licenses. i doubt they have obtained all the proper ones in each state. this is going to grow into another clusterfuck like GAW just few magnitudes smaller. at least Ganza had some ambitions of 150mil+ market cap! with addition of him possibly getting his own son into problems (that person works almost like Carlos Garza)

[Franz_Huber]

supposedly cmilian and his son have gathered around 700 000 xpy (this is cmilians estimate so take it with a truckload of salt. it could be an estimation from current rate of exchange or just a lie) from people converting to lendcoin with another promised floor price
if i recall right they had around 1.5mil customer xpy staking at some point. so even the most optimistic estimate would be less than 50% conversion

who knows how much they have made by shorting xpy and now they are trying to sell xpy off the exchanges in huge chunks so price wont crash. at every turn he has tried to downplay xpy to get more people into his scamcoin. he knows he wont get customers from the wider community with his style of marketing   communication skills of a turtle

he is fully non-transparent. working in secrecy with no real communication or accountability. any legitimate questions you might have and he will say "im off to work. you can send questions to customer support". he even had to leave xpy forums because lendcoin is fully centralized with identification servers (i havent seen any docs how this will work in reality. 3rd parties can obtain one that would contain that parties customer info, is that shared between all servers and how etc) they have to obtain licenses. i doubt they have obtained all the proper ones in each state. this is going to grow into another clusterfuck like GAW just few magnitudes smaller. at least Ganza had some ambitions of 150mil+ market cap! with addition of him possibly getting his own son into problems (that person works almost like Carlos Garza)

so lendcoin is proberbly scame?  

[Paul Revere]

Which of the various groups of shysters with endless XPY is going to grab the 12 BTC left @ .00020? Better hurry guiz, BTC price is cooling off.



Total Buy orders now @ 32 BTC.

[Paul Revere]

More signs of the impending descent into pure Idiocracy:


https://hashclub.org/topic/537/troll-spray-notice/4 Arch: https://archive.is/dpsJ7

[mgibson38]

More signs of the impending descent into pure Idiocracy:


https://hashclub.org/topic/537/troll-spray-notice/4 Arch: https://archive.is/dpsJ7

lets all buy xpy!!! The price is the lowest its ever been! Great opportunity! No time to think its time to BUY BUY BUY!

Seriously though I thought this thread was running out of purpose but with retards like that still existing it is needed more than ever. Fucktards....

[vObh0n]6W]

More signs of the impending descent into pure Idiocracy:


https://hashclub.org/topic/537/troll-spray-notice/4 Arch: https://archive.is/dpsJ7

That last one's got to be sarcasm.

Edit: yes. https://hashclub.org/user/sakura

[mgibson38]

More signs of the impending descent into pure Idiocracy:


https://hashclub.org/topic/537/troll-spray-notice/4 Arch: https://archive.is/dpsJ7

That last one's got to be sarcasm.

Edit: yes. https://hashclub.org/user/sakura

Thank god for that being sarcasm. There can't be many people left that are legitimately that stupid.

[Crestington]

So when we the change supposed to be at 25% APR for the prime hyper-inflating wallets? wasn't that supposed to be today?

Seriously, they could just remove the hyper-wallets and make the inflation equal across the board, works way better. The singular wallets with higher inflation doesn't work because you are limiting the smaller wallets when you want lots of people with many small wallets able to stake at the same rate, they will hold on to it or sell and that is market but if you have to risk large amounts in the first place then you are not going to buy so no market.

[kken01]

the saga continues