GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[samiam666]

I already explained why. PR and marketing of GAW/Paycoin was a bunch of buzzwords and empty promises that could be identified as such quite easily.

Great: at least you were not double-checking.

No time lost with you.

Thank you.

Haha, comedy gold!
any moment ... the " merits no reply " posts will start

Sorry mate. I just read and laugh at the insanity as of late. Thanks for the chuckle.

[VirosaGITS]

Hey hey mate no need to remind me over and over. Indeed all the signs were there, but at the same time, who we believed to be Josh did try a lot to keep the thing going, and say a lot of thing he/she/it/they did didn't make sense coming from a scammer.

And now it may just all make sense, when you learn that several people were posting under Josh's account.
When i leave out that impression that i got from that and just leave the fact, the half empty, half assed everything. (Rebranded ASIC to GAW name for example)
Crap.

Now i believe i learned my lesson and i'm pretty happy i did it now, while i'm still quite young enough.

[truckinusa]

Hey hey mate no need to remind me over and over. Indeed all the signs were there, but at the same time, who we believed to be Josh did try a lot to keep the thing going, and say a lot of thing he/she/it/they did didn't make sense coming from a scammer.

And now it may just all make sense, when you learn that several people were posting under Josh's account.
When i leave out that impression that i got from that and just leave the fact, the half empty, half assed everything. (Rebranded ASIC to GAW name for example)
Crap.

Now i believe i learned my lesson and i'm pretty happy i did it now, while i'm still quite young enough.

I just wonder how Homero fell off the face of the map?  We have some pretty good detectives here, but they haven't been coming through as of late.

[VirosaGITS]

Hey hey mate no need to remind me over and over. Indeed all the signs were there, but at the same time, who we believed to be Josh did try a lot to keep the thing going, and say a lot of thing he/she/it/they did didn't make sense coming from a scammer.

And now it may just all make sense, when you learn that several people were posting under Josh's account.
When i leave out that impression that i got from that and just leave the fact, the half empty, half assed everything. (Rebranded ASIC to GAW name for example)
Crap.

Now i believe i learned my lesson and i'm pretty happy i did it now, while i'm still quite young enough.

I just wonder how Homero fell off the face of the map?  We have some pretty good detectives here, but they haven't been coming through as of late.

Here? Here where?. There was rumors that he was in Dubai, but since he had been gone before 2015 in truth, he'd have to be pretty idiotic to not have moved all his ill gains to some safe haven and moved to somewhere without extradition or whatever.

You know, the typical criminal haven?

[truckinusa]

Hey hey mate no need to remind me over and over. Indeed all the signs were there, but at the same time, who we believed to be Josh did try a lot to keep the thing going, and say a lot of thing he/she/it/they did didn't make sense coming from a scammer.

And now it may just all make sense, when you learn that several people were posting under Josh's account.
When i leave out that impression that i got from that and just leave the fact, the half empty, half assed everything. (Rebranded ASIC to GAW name for example)
Crap.

Now i believe i learned my lesson and i'm pretty happy i did it now, while i'm still quite young enough.

I just wonder how Homero fell off the face of the map?  We have some pretty good detectives here, but they haven't been coming through as of late.

Here? Here where?. There was rumors that he was in Dubai, but since he had been gone before 2015 in truth, he'd have to be pretty idiotic to not have moved all his ill gains to some safe haven and moved to somewhere without extradition or whatever.

You know, the typical criminal haven?

Never thought about leaving the USA to hide with a few thousand bitcoins?  Wheres the safe haven?  I'm guessing Mexico is pretty safe if you look like a Mexican(not sure what ethnicity he is), but that pasty red head sticks out like a sore thumb.  The light glistening off that glass dildo is bound to get some attention.

[owlcatz]

Never thought about leaving the USA to hide with a few thousand bitcoins?  Wheres the safe haven?  I'm guessing Mexico is pretty safe if you look like a Mexican(not sure what ethnicity he is), but that pasty red head sticks out like a sore thumb.  The light glistening off that glass dildo is bound to get some attention.

Nah, the guy is too dumb to even succeed as a scammer. He's just waiting for an official indictment for major fraud and money laundering, and god only knows what else to do with the hashlet scammery...

[bitpop]

You're money are with Homero.. Not us fudder!! Bitcoin not viable!

Fudder was for me or for you?

Thanks.

their public relations / propaganda wasn't that bad to be honest. good enough to lure a lot of people in

PR and Marketing was fucking awesome!

Also technology: staking vs mining is a far more stable money supply philosophy.

We are the fudder!!

[VirosaGITS]

Never thought about leaving the USA to hide with a few thousand bitcoins?  Wheres the safe haven?  I'm guessing Mexico is pretty safe if you look like a Mexican(not sure what ethnicity he is), but that pasty red head sticks out like a sore thumb.  The light glistening off that glass dildo is bound to get some attention.

Nah, the guy is too dumb to even succeed as a scammer. He's just waiting for an official indictment for major fraud and money laundering, and god only knows what else to do with the hashlet scammery...

Does that mean i can have a refund on my hashlet?
Haha, joking...

I don't know, do you know where he is? It's a bit hard to grab his ass if he's on some tropical place sipping martini with no extradition treaty where money is the law. I mean, they make it look so easy on White Collar (TV Serie)

[favdesu]

Never thought about leaving the USA to hide with a few thousand bitcoins?  Wheres the safe haven?  I'm guessing Mexico is pretty safe if you look like a Mexican(not sure what ethnicity he is), but that pasty red head sticks out like a sore thumb.  The light glistening off that glass dildo is bound to get some attention.

Nah, the guy is too dumb to even succeed as a scammer. He's just waiting for an official indictment for major fraud and money laundering, and god only knows what else to do with the hashlet scammery...

Does that mean i can have a refund on my hashlet?
Haha, joking...

I don't know, do you know where he is? It's a bit hard to grab his ass if he's on some tropical place sipping martini with no extradition treaty where money is the law. I mean, they make it look so easy on White Collar (TV Serie)

Last thing I read here said he's in the US, Texas. Not sure though. Doubt he can afford to move around btw

[Crestington]

Hey hey mate no need to remind me over and over. Indeed all the signs were there, but at the same time, who we believed to be Josh did try a lot to keep the thing going, and say a lot of thing he/she/it/they did didn't make sense coming from a scammer.

And now it may just all make sense, when you learn that several people were posting under Josh's account.
When i leave out that impression that i got from that and just leave the fact, the half empty, half assed everything. (Rebranded ASIC to GAW name for example)
Crap.

Now i believe i learned my lesson and i'm pretty happy i did it now, while i'm still quite young enough.

I was not trying to remind people over and over so the points I was mainly stressing was that many people will just jump into something without doing their research because everyone else is doing it but really the best way would be to follow any Stock or trade for atleast month and research the financials and look for a good entry point, if seeing red flags during that time then you have the option not to invest or if already invested then it's better to take a loss and live to trade another day. Disregard what anyone says as truth and look at all points of views, assume everyone is trying to play you. Look at it in how you can learn from it and own the mistakes you've made so you aren't falling into the trap of continually investing in losing trades.

[Franz_Huber]

A "new" paycoin scam called "Project Rise of XPY 2.0" was presented on paytardtalk yesterday.
The explanation is long and boring, so here is the tldr: They want you to give them your bitcoins and then they will mine bitcoins for you but exchange them for payshitcoins and then (maybe) send them to you.
https://paycointalk.org/topic/324/project-rise-of-xpy-2-0?page=1

[Phildo]

A "new" paycoin scam called "Project Rise of XPY 2.0" was presented on paytardtalk yesterday.
The explanation is long and boring, so here is the tldr: They want you to give them your bitcoins and then they will mine bitcoins for you but exchange them for payshitcoins and then (maybe) send them to you.
https://paycointalk.org/topic/324/project-rise-of-xpy-2-0?page=1

Jesus christ.

That post can give you a full card in paytard bingo:

Invest in another scam

donate to a "team" of scammers for "features"

a bunch of techno babble that doesn't actually make sense

give your coins to some strangers and hope for the best

a website that ends in some weird extension

and the always important, no actual reason for anyone on earth to ever want to have a paycoin, so no reason for the coin to have  value.

[BitNow]

and the always important, no actual reason for anyone on earth to ever want to have a paycoin, so no reason for the coin to have  value.

Why a coin should have a value in the first place?

I think all crypto are backed by the energy used from miners, but as you will say, this is my opinion, hence my question: Why a coin should have a value in the first place?

Thanks.

[Phildo]

and the always important, no actual reason for anyone on earth to ever want to have a paycoin, so no reason for the coin to have  value.

Why a coin should have a value in the first place?

I think all crypto are backed by the energy used from miners, but as you will say, this is my opinion, hence my question: Why a coin should have a value in the first place?

Thanks.

Because there is a reason to use it.

Bitcoin was (is?) a way to buy drugs semi-anonymously from your couch. Since it's kind of stable it's a way you can use it to transfer money from person a to person b without involving a 3rd party. It's going to be a lot harder for the government to take my coins from a poker/gambling site than it was for them to take my cash, and they also can't stop me from sending coins to those sites the way they did with sports betting.  I'm not sure if that's worth 280, but I'm also a weirdo that doesn't think any of these coins are a good "investment," they have uses, but I'm not "investing" in them because anything that makes them have "value" can just be copied by another coin and destroy the value.

The price of everything in the universe is determined by 2 things, supply and demand (not how much you spend making something). paycoin is dead because the supply side of the equation is fucked. Paycoin never had a chance because the supply side was controlled by scumbags. There's no real point in trying when the supply is STILL out of control, coins are created at an insane rate, and a HUGE number are controlled by scumbags and/or idiots who can crash the price at will. Any plan to "fix" the coin without addressing the demand problem AND ending the insane staking is just going to end up with more idiots giving money to scumbags.

[BitNow]

Because there is a reason to use it.

Bitcoin was (is?) a way to buy drugs semi-anonymously from your couch. Since it's kind of stable it's a way you can use it to transfer money from person a to person b without involving a 3rd party. It's going to be a lot harder for the government to take my coins from a poker/gambling site than it was for them to take my cash, and they also can't stop me from sending coins to those sites the way they did with sports betting.  I'm not sure if that's worth 280, but I'm also a weirdo that doesn't think any of these coins are a good "investment," they have uses, but I'm not "investing" in them because anything that makes them have "value" can just be copied by another coin and destroy the value.

The price of everything in the universe is determined by 2 things, supply and demand (not how much you spend making something). paycoin is dead because the supply side of the equation is fucked. Paycoin never had a chance because the supply side was controlled by scumbags. There's no real point in trying when the supply is STILL out of control, coins are created at an insane rate, and a HUGE number are controlled by scumbags and/or idiots who can crash the price at will. Any plan to "fix" the coin without addressing the demand problem AND ending the insane staking is just going to end up with more idiots giving money to scumbags.

Your are attached to ideas.

You didn't gave me a solid thing in this world that a coin is backed with.

Coins are backed by the energy that miners use to mine them: that's a thing (energy).

Supply and demands are ideas: try to defend yourself (from government, from your neighbours, from your archenemy, from me, etc... ) with ideas.

Energy gives you power. Supply and demand gives you... well nice try!

Thanks.

[owlcatz]

Because there is a reason to use it.

Bitcoin was (is?) a way to buy drugs semi-anonymously from your couch. Since it's kind of stable it's a way you can use it to transfer money from person a to person b without involving a 3rd party. It's going to be a lot harder for the government to take my coins from a poker/gambling site than it was for them to take my cash, and they also can't stop me from sending coins to those sites the way they did with sports betting.  I'm not sure if that's worth 280, but I'm also a weirdo that doesn't think any of these coins are a good "investment," they have uses, but I'm not "investing" in them because anything that makes them have "value" can just be copied by another coin and destroy the value.

The price of everything in the universe is determined by 2 things, supply and demand (not how much you spend making something). paycoin is dead because the supply side of the equation is fucked. Paycoin never had a chance because the supply side was controlled by scumbags. There's no real point in trying when the supply is STILL out of control, coins are created at an insane rate, and a HUGE number are controlled by scumbags and/or idiots who can crash the price at will. Any plan to "fix" the coin without addressing the demand problem AND ending the insane staking is just going to end up with more idiots giving money to scumbags.

Your are attached to ideas.

You didn't gave me a solid thing in this world that a coin is backed with.

Coins are backed by the energy that miners use to mine them: that's a thing (energy).

Supply and demands are ideas: try to defend yourself (from government, from your neighbours, from your archenemy, from me, etc... ) with ideas.

Energy gives you power. Supply and demand gives you... well nice try!

Thanks.

Ideas? Energy? Maybe you need to go back to school ... It's not about "Coins", it's about EVERYTHING - SUPPLY & DEMAND

 

[Phildo]

Because there is a reason to use it.

Bitcoin was (is?) a way to buy drugs semi-anonymously from your couch. Since it's kind of stable it's a way you can use it to transfer money from person a to person b without involving a 3rd party. It's going to be a lot harder for the government to take my coins from a poker/gambling site than it was for them to take my cash, and they also can't stop me from sending coins to those sites the way they did with sports betting.  I'm not sure if that's worth 280, but I'm also a weirdo that doesn't think any of these coins are a good "investment," they have uses, but I'm not "investing" in them because anything that makes them have "value" can just be copied by another coin and destroy the value.

The price of everything in the universe is determined by 2 things, supply and demand (not how much you spend making something). paycoin is dead because the supply side of the equation is fucked. Paycoin never had a chance because the supply side was controlled by scumbags. There's no real point in trying when the supply is STILL out of control, coins are created at an insane rate, and a HUGE number are controlled by scumbags and/or idiots who can crash the price at will. Any plan to "fix" the coin without addressing the demand problem AND ending the insane staking is just going to end up with more idiots giving money to scumbags.

Your are attached to ideas.

You didn't gave me a solid thing in this world that a coin is backed with.

Coins are backed by the energy that miners use to mine them: that's a thing (energy).

Supply and demands are ideas: try to defend yourself (from government, from your neighbours, from your archenemy, from me, etc... ) with ideas.

Energy gives you power. Supply and demand gives you... well nice try!

Thanks.

They are not backed by energy. People think they are backed by energy and that is why they stupidly buy miners and invest in "cloud mining" that doesn't make sense.

i don't care how much energy it takes you to make a coin, if I can't get $x worth of stuff for the coin, I'm not giving you $x. If it costs you $1,000 to make a coin, but I can't only get $280 worth of stuff from overstock with it, I'm not giving you $1000, and you are going to lose money.

And if you REALLY think that energy is what gives a coin value why on earth did you get involved with a coin where 12 million were created instantly with no energy? And how many are created every day with no energy?

[BitNow]

Ideas? Maybe you need to go back to school ... It's not about "Coins", it's about EVERYTHING - SUPPLY & DEMAND

 

What can you do with everything?

Please speak more precise.

Can you go far with everything?


Thanks.

They are not backed by energy. People think they are backed by energy and that is why they stupidly buy miners and invest in "cloud mining" that doesn't make sense.

Thanks for you view.

"Every time you understand a point of view you make experience".

Free experience is always good.

And if you REALLY think that energy is what gives a coin value why on earth did you get involved with a coin where 12 million were created instantly with no energy? And how many are created every day with no energy?

Cause I thought I can make a quick buck!

Cause I thought this was the new USD/EUR/JPY/GBP/RUB... without a Government backing it and with the technology we always dreamt of.

Cause staking stands to Government supply money as mining stands to lottery rewards.
(MINTING:FIAT = MINING:COUPONS)

Cause staking and mining are the 2 main philosophies in money supply that exists and I wanted to have a shot in both of them.
(could you invent a new philosophy?!?)

Cause every shots count.

Does this answer your question?

Thanks.

[owlcatz]

Does this answer your question?

Thanks.

Yes, it does - You are just a trolling moron. Buh-bye now, Ignore time... 

[BitNow]

Does this answer your question?

Thanks.

Yes, it does - You are just a trolling moron. Buh-bye now, Ignore time...  

That answer was not for you.

Why you keep replying other people's answers?!?

Why did you reply to my answer to user Phildo?

"It is not polite to jump into discussions without asking permission".

Do you have an information dependency?!?