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[bitpop]

2¢ Guys load up your bags now! 20 soon!!

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@ladrx Evidently he was part of the original group. I honestly don't know how or what he did. But I am told he knew all the inner workings of the Paycoin scam as it was unfolding and failed to report his story to the authorities. Just as guilty in my book.

Oh, right, it's this guy, I remember him:

Michael J. Koerner (middle name Jonas apparently)

I think it's this one:



BoXHocK aka Jonas Hals

Ok, well that other guy is a dbag also  

I'm pretty sure both are involved in that project (PO Box address in WI). And Mr. Koerner appears to have filed for bankruptcy in 2011 although someone with PACER access might want to verify that.

http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/ssorvnem/wisconsin-eastern-bankruptcy-court/michael-j-koerner/

1    Koerner, Michael J. (db)    wiebke    2:11-bk-32382    7    08/10/2011    09/30/2014    Standard Discharge 09/30/2014
2    Koerner, Michael J (db)    wiebke    2:10-bk-38759    7    11/24/2010    05/18/2011    Dismissed for Abuse 05/18/2011

Dismissed for abuse?

1. A review of the Debtor’s amended income and his expenses demonstrates there is sufficient monthly income available to repay creditors.
2. The Debtor earns a net monthly income of $7,124.70 or $85,496.40 annually. (Docket No. 14, amended Schedule I).
3. The Debtor lists expenses of $5,795, which leaves $1,329.70 of excess income. (See Schedule J expenses and amended Schedule I, Docket Nos. 1, 14).
4. However, included in the Debtor’s expenses are costs of $1,650 for the support of his mother. The Debtor does not claim his mother as a dependent on his tax returns and there is no documentation of his support to her.
5. Even factoring in the support to his mother, the Debtor has ample funds available to repay creditors.

Then, three months later, he was able to get one through. In the later one, he started with a 13 and converted it to a 7.

He was able to do this because he was laid off. He had worked for three universities at the same time for 12 years, then laid off by all three at the same time. I wonder what he did to lose three jobs at once. He also claimed to "not anticipate employment in his future."

[Subtuppel]

[knowhow]

as it is possible that there is still someone in this world that still supports this crypto and defend its creator mr garza ..... I understand that many not some managed and some ROI achieved good profits selling their haslets here , but many people , lost a lot, more than they could , because of a dream and several promises.

[shveicar]

Yes, as we see in the case Paycoin things are getting worse and worse.




Soon to be 1 cent for this paycoin

[rrocket66]

SNIP

Yeah after a quick search of the name "boxshock" this little nugget of information came up.  https://paycointalk.org/topic/266/paycoin-life-behind-the-scenes

Check it out, some poor guy (obviously unaware of the Garza scam empire) was employed by these crooks, used for his info, then pushed out. Then the guy brings it up on the same forum that this involves, AND HE IS SHAMED. Same thing that happened in the past, poor guy exposing a scam gets shut up. Seems to me the only thing different from old hashtalk is they aren't banning the guy. To top it off the lead Admin there "yoshi" is defending the scammers!! They have the entire community fooled that there is a new leadership. But seems like the same scam sandwich to me.

This is a sad world we live in. Everyone of the leaders over there are guilty, crap, they might be in on it too.

[foodstamps]

SNIP

Yeah after a quick search of the name "boxshock" this little nugget of information came up.  https://paycointalk.org/topic/266/paycoin-life-behind-the-scenes

Check it out, some poor guy (obviously unaware of the Garza scam empire) was employed by these crooks, used for his info, then pushed out. Then the guy brings it up on the same forum that this involves, AND HE IS SHAMED. Same thing that happened in the past, poor guy exposing a scam gets shut up. Seems to me the only thing different from old hashtalk is they aren't banning the guy. To top it off the lead Admin there "yoshi" is defending the scammers!! They have the entire community fooled that there is a new leadership. But seems like the same scam sandwich to me.

This is a sad world we live in. Everyone of the leaders over there are guilty, crap, they might be in on it too.

It really amazes me that there is still a "community".  Some people just don't know when to call it quits I guess.

[rrocket66]

Careful how loosely you use that word "community."   The community I came from, we didn't steal from strangers and then shame the police when they come to bring order... and then create ANOTHER stealing campaign based on the same principles with the same people minus 1 guy, then start shaming the police again. If these people fall for this again, they get what they deserve. There is a place in hell for liars, cheats, and thieves.

[Crestington]

Some months more PayCon is $0.03  and PayCoin $0.003

Haha PayCoin keeps losing price and CON only gets pumps.

[rrocket66]

....... I can buy and sell my own coin back and forth to myself with 4 btc laying around too....

[Phildo]

SNIP

Yeah after a quick search of the name "boxshock" this little nugget of information came up.  https://paycointalk.org/topic/266/paycoin-life-behind-the-scenes

Check it out, some poor guy (obviously unaware of the Garza scam empire) was employed by these crooks, used for his info, then pushed out. Then the guy brings it up on the same forum that this involves, AND HE IS SHAMED. Same thing that happened in the past, poor guy exposing a scam gets shut up. Seems to me the only thing different from old hashtalk is they aren't banning the guy. To top it off the lead Admin there "yoshi" is defending the scammers!! They have the entire community fooled that there is a new leadership. But seems like the same scam sandwich to me.

This is a sad world we live in. Everyone of the leaders over there are guilty, crap, they might be in on it too.

Same shit as always.

It's a bunch of wannabe investors/business guys thinking that using magic beans will let them jump into the business world with a lower barrier to entry. There's a reason the paperwork is done FIRST in the real world, so we don't end up in situations like this, where some guy does a bunch of work and gets left with nothing.

The positive for mr gavi here is that it will probably turn out that nothing of value was lost since this project somehow involves paycoin or members of the "community." It's all people ripping each other off over there. Yes, your time is worth money, but how much time did he really put in and at least he didn't lose any actual cash/coins.

[suchmoon]

So if I'm reading this correctly, boxhock aka Jonas "Clarkson" Hals is a "minor" and Korfax Michael J "bankrupt" Koerner is the rich "investor" who pushed Gavi aside? What an assorted bunch of misfits.

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This thread feels like we're at the zoo watching the monkeys throw feces at each other while we wait for the lion feeding to start.

[bitpop]

Hashtards make double your losses with dmd and http://adverti.io !!

[favdesu]

Hey guys just a heads up, it seem there may be another GARZA scam incognito, he may be paying his previous employees to run other sites to try an extract as much btc from his followers as he can. This one is owned and ran by one of his sidekicks.

http://adverti.io/

Please beware. Treat this as you would any other garza scam. First CPIG, now this. I would be wary. Thanks!

Design and written text on advert.io look 100% like a Garza scam website.

Yup, I agree. looks and smells just like a Garza. They'll never give up I guess

[favdesu]

Paycoin: The Scam that Was {Video} https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1136590.0

it's a nice summary in my opinion. he really did a very good job

[betterangels]

Hashtards make double your losses with dmd and http://adverti.io !!

it looks like paybase, cheap $5 template?
LOL

[Crestington]

Paycoin: The Scam that Was {Video} https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1136590.0

it's a nice summary in my opinion. he did a good job

I might watch it if he throws in a couple car chases and lasers, I got about 3 minutes in and got bored and changed the channel.

[clownius]

I do like the number of missing posts in that thread and the whole thing was thrown into the FUD hole.

Seems censorship is still the answer in paycoin land

[Phildo]

I do like the number of missing posts in that thread and the whole thing was thrown into the FUD hole.

Seems censorship is still the answer in paycoin land

It really shows how stupid and/or untrustworthy they all are.

"FUD" is the cause of all problems in cryptoworld, not the horseshit that causes people to post the true facts that make up the fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Talking about a mod pulling a shady business deal is obviously a bigger problem than the shady action in the first place. Saying that the $20 floor isn't going to work is a bigger problem than lying about the floor existing, etc etc.

I've said it numerous time over the past months, but anyone still involved is going to get exactly what they deserve. Everyone has had ample time to figure out that the price is going to 0, dump before the assholes that are taking all of the coins can.