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Mr-Coins
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Nice info - this is one reason why i'm staying! I've been getting varying and contradictory feedback on the gawsuit.com as to whether it can succeed or is even real. Do you have any opinion on the gawsuit.com process as it stands now? |
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skinnyboy
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April 23, 2016, 05:06:30 PM |
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1) I've stated already that the company information that I got in that it's existing company and the name change is not showing yet, so the company is setup since 2014 as the company is the existing platform XPY.io. But to me, the company is no indicator of whether this is a scam or not. It's easy to setup a company, in the UK I can spend £20 to setup a legit company structure with no liability for losses. So the company info for me is not very important or meaningful in terms of honest intent.
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Right, so the fact remains that when they stated Ionomy PTE was a company registered in Singapore they lied. What is worse is that they use that lie to entice people to buy in to their ICO. You keep asserting it makes no difference if they are registered or not, I will continue to assert that when you claim to be representing a legal entity for the purpose of soliciting funding that it seems very likely you are committing fraud. Now, having refused to divulge this information themselves & used you to direct people to their slack channel it is again you who comes back & provides this new information. Shill, much? |
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April 23, 2016, 05:17:45 PM |
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Nice info - this is one reason why i'm staying! I've been getting varying and contradictory feedback on the gawsuit.com as to whether it can succeed or is even real. Do you have any opinion on the gawsuit.com process as it stands now? Considering that the guy running the "gawsuit" is business partners with the guy who ran the data center that didn't contain any hashlets or pay their electricity bill or do anything but rob rubes, I'm guessing it will go about as swimmingly as every other GAW-project. |
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April 23, 2016, 05:33:34 PM |
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1) I've stated already that the company information that I got in that it's existing company and the name change is not showing yet, so the company is setup since 2014 as the company is the existing platform XPY.io. But to me, the company is no indicator of whether this is a scam or not. It's easy to setup a company, in the UK I can spend £20 to setup a legit company structure with no liability for losses. So the company info for me is not very important or meaningful in terms of honest intent.
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Right, so the fact remains that when they stated Ionomy PTE was a company registered in Singapore they lied. What is worse is that they use that lie to entice people to buy in to their ICO. You keep asserting it makes no difference if they are registered or not, I will continue to assert that when you claim to be representing a legal entity for the purpose of soliciting funding that it seems very likely you are committing fraud. Now, having refused to divulge this information themselves & used you to direct people to their slack channel it is again you who comes back & provides this new information. Shill, much? If you think a £20 registered company makes it more legit then that's up to you. I know how easy it is to register a company so it means nothing to me. It doesn't make this (or any other) project more or less likely to fail/be a scam. Will we ever get beyond the name calling stage? |
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April 23, 2016, 05:46:48 PM |
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1) I've stated already that the company information that I got in that it's existing company and the name change is not showing yet, so the company is setup since 2014 as the company is the existing platform XPY.io. But to me, the company is no indicator of whether this is a scam or not. It's easy to setup a company, in the UK I can spend £20 to setup a legit company structure with no liability for losses. So the company info for me is not very important or meaningful in terms of honest intent.
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Right, so the fact remains that when they stated Ionomy PTE was a company registered in Singapore they lied. What is worse is that they use that lie to entice people to buy in to their ICO. You keep asserting it makes no difference if they are registered or not, I will continue to assert that when you claim to be representing a legal entity for the purpose of soliciting funding that it seems very likely you are committing fraud. Now, having refused to divulge this information themselves & used you to direct people to their slack channel it is again you who comes back & provides this new information. Shill, much? If you think a £20 registered company makes it more legit then that's up to you. I know how easy it is to register a company so it means nothing to me. It doesn't make this (or any other) project more or less likely to fail/be a scam. Will we ever get beyond the name calling stage? Perhaps, and perhaps you'll get to the stage where you employ common sense. Or where your conscience gets the better of your polluted heart. Whichever it is, either an idiot or a fraudster. |
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April 23, 2016, 05:47:03 PM |
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1) I've stated already that the company information that I got in that it's existing company and the name change is not showing yet, so the company is setup since 2014 as the company is the existing platform XPY.io. But to me, the company is no indicator of whether this is a scam or not. It's easy to setup a company, in the UK I can spend £20 to setup a legit company structure with no liability for losses. So the company info for me is not very important or meaningful in terms of honest intent.
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Right, so the fact remains that when they stated Ionomy PTE was a company registered in Singapore they lied. What is worse is that they use that lie to entice people to buy in to their ICO. You keep asserting it makes no difference if they are registered or not, I will continue to assert that when you claim to be representing a legal entity for the purpose of soliciting funding that it seems very likely you are committing fraud. Now, having refused to divulge this information themselves & used you to direct people to their slack channel it is again you who comes back & provides this new information. Shill, much? If you think a £20 registered company makes it more legit then that's up to you. I know how easy it is to register a company so it means nothing to me. It doesn't make this (or any other) project more or less likely to fail/be a scam. Will we ever get beyond the name calling stage? Again, deflecting from the point that they lied. I didn't call you a name, I asked if you're shilling. It seems to me you'll do anything to prevent that obvious fact from being made clear to people on this forum. |
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April 23, 2016, 06:11:24 PM |
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Nice info - this is one reason why i'm staying! I've been getting varying and contradictory feedback on the gawsuit.com as to whether it can succeed or is even real. Do you have any opinion on the gawsuit.com process as it stands now? Last update was 2 months ago. There was supposed to be an announcement of a class action I think. Didn't happen. In fact any information up to this point originated ONLY from Mr. Shinners, so it all depends on how much you want to trust that one individual. The good news is he didn't collect any money, the bad news is he collected a lot of personal information that could be misused in many different ways. |
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April 23, 2016, 06:15:39 PM |
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1) I've stated already that the company information that I got in that it's existing company and the name change is not showing yet, so the company is setup since 2014 as the company is the existing platform XPY.io. But to me, the company is no indicator of whether this is a scam or not. It's easy to setup a company, in the UK I can spend £20 to setup a legit company structure with no liability for losses. So the company info for me is not very important or meaningful in terms of honest intent.
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Right, so the fact remains that when they stated Ionomy PTE was a company registered in Singapore they lied. What is worse is that they use that lie to entice people to buy in to their ICO. You keep asserting it makes no difference if they are registered or not, I will continue to assert that when you claim to be representing a legal entity for the purpose of soliciting funding that it seems very likely you are committing fraud. Now, having refused to divulge this information themselves & used you to direct people to their slack channel it is again you who comes back & provides this new information. Shill, much? If you think a £20 registered company makes it more legit then that's up to you. I know how easy it is to register a company so it means nothing to me. It doesn't make this (or any other) project more or less likely to fail/be a scam. Will we ever get beyond the name calling stage? Its not a matter of the 20 making them legitimte, but it is a huge red flag. If the business registration is irrelevant, they shouldn't have mentioned it. Buy I question how a company unable to do something simple like prove they are a registered company would be able to do any of the other stuff they are planning to do. Can a company that needs 48 hours to answer a simple question do the things they are setting out to do? |
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April 23, 2016, 06:16:12 PM |
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The only guy I'd give bitcoin to is seriousinvest
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April 23, 2016, 06:23:50 PM |
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For me it looks we stucked here  Let me clear my point: 1. What will change if details about company are public, yes this information would be and should be public, but what does it really change, like ie. who of you send them flowers and who visited mordica and co and their headquarters which was at this time an obvious scam  ? Anybody? What did it change on scam except that they tried to make it look legal and my friends, exactly this was the reason why so many people outside of crypto trusted this Mexican Sobrero. Now I don't understand, if they are scam why should they be geniuine? First of all, it's the LIE that matters. Trust and all that. Second, if the company is just a shell company without any assets (most likely) then it should be a major red flag as well. I know nobody cares about such things because this is crypto, but it doesn't mean this should not be exposed. 5. Ionomy, why is it discussed here, only because they caused death of xpy?
ionomy is created by the same deluded gang of Garza's asslickers who tried to keep XPY afloat for a year. This discussion is interesting (at least to me) as it highlights the uncanny similarities between the two projects - people involved, premine, demand of unconditional trust, lack of tangible product, hiding in their walled garden, I could go on but I think you get the idea. |
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April 23, 2016, 06:36:14 PM |
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The only guy I'd give bitcoin to is seriousinvest
, I think you are the only who brings smile on my face with just 2,3 words, but you know I love you for that , seriousinvest is part of copyright history. |
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April 23, 2016, 08:15:19 PM |
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Just discovered that there is an ION Coin subreddit already: https://www.reddit.com/r/IONcoin |
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April 23, 2016, 08:25:22 PM |
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Nice "discovery". Let the slackers know too |
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April 23, 2016, 09:06:02 PM |
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For me it looks we stucked here Let me clear my point: 1. What will change if details about company are public, yes this information would be and should be public, but what does it really change, like ie. who of you send them flowers and who visited mordica and co and their headquarters which was at this time an obvious scam ? Anybody? What did it change on scam except that they tried to make it look legal and my friends, exactly this was the reason why so many people outside of crypto trusted this Mexican Sobrero. Now I don't understand, if they are scam why should they be geniuine? First of all, it's the LIE that matters. Trust and all that. Second, if the company is just a shell company without any assets (most likely) then it should be a major red flag as well. I know nobody cares about such things because this is crypto, but it doesn't mean this should not be exposed. 5. Ionomy, why is it discussed here, only because they caused death of xpy?
ionomy is created by the same deluded gang of Garza's asslickers who tried to keep XPY afloat for a year. This discussion is interesting (at least to me) as it highlights the uncanny similarities between the two projects - people involved, premine, demand of unconditional trust, lack of tangible product, hiding in their walled garden, I could go on but I think you get the idea. I have some different point, first in crypto is everybody an CEO and Ganza was the one who started extremly with such way of marketing promising everything calling people on who they are and what business they run, lol, same shit like its in shiners head, even in his doxxing attemps he tried to point out who who is by registered companies , what a dumb idea, where this is actually an genious move even if ganza would have never understood it even if he would think to understand it, it is pure luck for him. He used standard scheme which even works in real world, not only in crypto. Difference in crypto is, everything happens faster and timeframe for registering everything takes time where on hype money is made, just think about ebay, amazon, gift cards, $ 20 floor .... . All this "registered company" bullshit gave him this possibility, if people would care about more facts than just registered company, lol, you indeed have real scammers that can not only register an ghost company. You are right, if legit details are hidden or non existing than it is red flag. At the same time you do say that these are same people. Now what would tell you more, an legit registered company US or EU with same people involved or just the fact who is involved? Second is of course the nature of crypto. If you register an business, then only if it is getting successfull and if it is getting so big that you have to register it. For me red flag are people and not their unregistered business which they start in crypto. I am also not an fan of new york license that gets always bigger popularity. |
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April 23, 2016, 09:36:29 PM |
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Refresh my memory though i thought he wasn't appearing (homero that is) and that his lawyer was going to appear on his behalf. When do we get to see josh in his court vest? |
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April 23, 2016, 10:21:42 PM |
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Fuddets not viable!  |
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April 23, 2016, 11:27:37 PM |
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Fuddets not viable!
Troles are fudding ION so they can buy all the IONcoins themselves for cheap! |
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April 23, 2016, 11:37:11 PM |
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1) I've stated already that the company information that I got in that it's existing company and the name change is not showing yet, so the company is setup since 2014 as the company is the existing platform XPY.io. But to me, the company is no indicator of whether this is a scam or not. It's easy to setup a company, in the UK I can spend £20 to setup a legit company structure with no liability for losses. So the company info for me is not very important or meaningful in terms of honest intent.
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Right, so the fact remains that when they stated Ionomy PTE was a company registered in Singapore they lied. What is worse is that they use that lie to entice people to buy in to their ICO. You keep asserting it makes no difference if they are registered or not, I will continue to assert that when you claim to be representing a legal entity for the purpose of soliciting funding that it seems very likely you are committing fraud. Now, having refused to divulge this information themselves & used you to direct people to their slack channel it is again you who comes back & provides this new information. Shill, much? If you think a £20 registered company makes it more legit then that's up to you. I know how easy it is to register a company so it means nothing to me. It doesn't make this (or any other) project more or less likely to fail/be a scam. Will we ever get beyond the name calling stage? Again, deflecting from the point that they lied. I didn't call you a name, I asked if you're shilling. It seems to me you'll do anything to prevent that obvious fact from being made clear to people on this forum. Let me tell you a secret... It's ALL about BTC There's a few people here that know what i'm talking about |
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A question to everyone...
Are you on a "heal the world mission" or are you trying to earn crypto money?
It's not possible to do both at the same time effectively. You can get BTC by buying it from your salary, or by earning it, and altcoins are very efficient for that effect. Why do you think there are so many?
Just wondering if we are on the same page.
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