GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[RealReoelliott]

4:24, it was a great presentation!

https://vimeo.com/83699131

[Franz_Huber]

For a decentralized system brought on by cyberculture to bring power to the people, you are all worse then the middle east and their insatiable need to be savages.

The decentralized system to bring power to the people is called Bitcoin.
Paycoin and ION are premined Ponzi scamcoins.

[o0o0]

So what happens if Josh goes to jail for (20+ years) I hope and ION ends up being half decent or fails and it is evident Josh is not in the picture..what happens then ?

Many of you really have it out for adam, obviously he wasn't involved in any shady shit, he was a victim like many other people but he stepped up with individuals and tried to save it (despite its inevitable doom)...the only one lawyering up is josh.

And you have to give the man respect for not completely abandoning everything crypto after dealing with false accusations and threats..even involving his fucking church. He tried to save investors money that Josh Ran away with and got burned.. Nobody is putting a gun to your heads telling you to invest in ION but let it be...Josh being involved in anything ION is a crazy thought, a lot of you lack logic and are great at hiding behind a screen.

Grow the fuck up, even if the coin fails..don't you pizza face virgin crypto investors believe in something more than destroying each other ?

For a decentralized system brought on by cyberculture to bring power to the people, you are all worse then the middle east and their insatiable need to be savages.

So how do you know he is innocent as fact? You speak like you know adam inside out which only someone inside his head could know. Also remember all the josh is a good guy stuff its the trolls etc at the start?

I presented stats above for numbers showing what they can do with masternodes and their premine etc. There is no transparency with how these funds are to be used, what they are paying each other, who does what etc. So how is it you can evaluate their intentions when there is no transparency on these easy to answer questions to simple questions to ensure this?

Seems to me you are acting on emotion of wanting the project to succeed without doing due dilligence of the actual facts.

[CryptoBuds]

So what happens if Josh goes to jail for (20+ years) I hope and ION ends up being half decent or fails and it is evident Josh is not in the picture..what happens then ?

Many of you really have it out for adam, obviously he wasn't involved in any shady shit, he was a victim like many other people but he stepped up with individuals and tried to save it (despite its inevitable doom)...the only one lawyering up is josh.

And you have to give the man respect for not completely abandoning everything crypto after dealing with false accusations and threats..even involving his fucking church. He tried to save investors money that Josh Ran away with and got burned.. Nobody is putting a gun to your heads telling you to invest in ION but let it be...Josh being involved in anything ION is a crazy thought, a lot of you lack logic and are great at hiding behind a screen.

Grow the fuck up, even if the coin fails..don't you pizza face virgin crypto investors believe in something more than destroying each other ?

For a decentralized system brought on by cyberculture to bring power to the people, you are all worse then the middle east and their insatiable need to be savages.

Great rant, kudos to your word salad! XPY was not a decentralized coin and neither is ION. Also, could you provide hard proof that Adam was not involved with GAW? Just you saying he's not isn't enough proof. I know you believe what people tell you but most others in crypto (those non ION and XPY folks) want to see hard proof and not just someone's words.

[Unacceptable]

For a decentralized system brought on by cyberculture to bring power to the people, you are all worse then the middle east and their insatiable need to be savages.

The decentralized system to bring power to the people is called Bitcoin.
Paycoin and ION are premined Ponzi scamcoins.

Where the hell is the like button???

Oh,here it is!!!! 

[kken01]

I found this quite interesting, almost an inadvertent blurb to someone else in the know? Seems so casual as though everyone on "that side" knows what is really going on.

How recent is this banter?

pretty recent. about 24h old


edit:
look whos back.. not accepting paycoin tho! (or ion)  pex peppers the quitter who never quits!
http://bazaarbay.org/@PexPeppers

[owlcatz]

edit:
look whos back.. not accepting paycoin tho! (or ion)   pex peppers the quitter who never quits!
http://bazaarbay.org/@PexPeppers

That was always funny how he was quitting and then changing his mind sbout XPY, but he's been here selling sauces for quite some time now, not that I would ever buy any though, even though his ratings seem pretty solid/good.

[Phildo]

So what happens if Josh goes to jail for (20+ years) I hope and ION ends up being half decent or fails and it is evident Josh is not in the picture..what happens then ?

Many of you really have it out for adam, obviously he wasn't involved in any shady shit, he was a victim like many other people but he stepped up with individuals and tried to save it (despite its inevitable doom)...the only one lawyering up is josh.

And you have to give the man respect for not completely abandoning everything crypto after dealing with false accusations and threats..even involving his fucking church. He tried to save investors money that Josh Ran away with and got burned.. Nobody is putting a gun to your heads telling you to invest in ION but let it be...Josh being involved in anything ION is a crazy thought, a lot of you lack logic and are great at hiding behind a screen.

Grow the fuck up, even if the coin fails..don't you pizza face virgin crypto investors believe in something more than destroying each other ?

For a decentralized system brought on by cyberculture to bring power to the people, you are all worse then the middle east and their insatiable need to be savages.

I guess that's nice that he didn't "abandon" crypto, but who gives a shit that he didn't lawyer up? he hasn't given an explanation or his side of things.

Even if he is/was an innocent victim, the fact that his major qualification for running ion is that he got robbed by garza is reason enough or me to stay away.

[CryptoBuds]

So what happens if Josh goes to jail for (20+ years) I hope and ION ends up being half decent or fails and it is evident Josh is not in the picture..what happens then ?

Many of you really have it out for adam, obviously he wasn't involved in any shady shit, he was a victim like many other people but he stepped up with individuals and tried to save it (despite its inevitable doom)...the only one lawyering up is josh.

And you have to give the man respect for not completely abandoning everything crypto after dealing with false accusations and threats..even involving his fucking church. He tried to save investors money that Josh Ran away with and got burned.. Nobody is putting a gun to your heads telling you to invest in ION but let it be...Josh being involved in anything ION is a crazy thought, a lot of you lack logic and are great at hiding behind a screen.

Grow the fuck up, even if the coin fails..don't you pizza face virgin crypto investors believe in something more than destroying each other ?

For a decentralized system brought on by cyberculture to bring power to the people, you are all worse then the middle east and their insatiable need to be savages.

I guess that's nice that he didn't "abandon" crypto, but who gives a shit that he didn't lawyer up? he hasn't given an explanation or his side of things.

Even if he is/was an innocent victim, the fact that his major qualification for running ion is that he got robbed by garza is reason enough or me to stay away.

Would have been more beneficial if he did abandon crypto. XPY would have been long dead and this disaster in the making ION wouldn't even be a blip on the radar. Maybe Huey is a government plant to attempt to destroy the cryptocurrency movement?

[suchmoon]

So what happens if Josh goes to jail for (20+ years) I hope and ION ends up being half decent or fails and it is evident Josh is not in the picture..what happens then ?

Many of you really have it out for adam, obviously he wasn't involved in any shady shit, he was a victim like many other people but he stepped up with individuals and tried to save it (despite its inevitable doom)...the only one lawyering up is josh.

And you have to give the man respect for not completely abandoning everything crypto after dealing with false accusations and threats..even involving his fucking church. He tried to save investors money that Josh Ran away with and got burned.. Nobody is putting a gun to your heads telling you to invest in ION but let it be...Josh being involved in anything ION is a crazy thought, a lot of you lack logic and are great at hiding behind a screen.

Grow the fuck up, even if the coin fails..don't you pizza face virgin crypto investors believe in something more than destroying each other ?

For a decentralized system brought on by cyberculture to bring power to the people, you are all worse then the middle east and their insatiable need to be savages.

If you're convinced that ION is a good investment why do care what others think?

I don't get why you are so worried about some posts on some forum that you feel the need for this weird rebuttal that doesn't even attempt to address any questions raised. It's quite clear that your won't change your mind and it's unlikely that you'll change anyone else's mind. Just needed a place to rant? You're welcome.

[rdewilde]

note - ionomy still refuses to comment on masternodes and shows no transparency on pay, burns, ico etc. very shady and secretive.

Fwiw, https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/#@inflation

[suchmoon]

note - ionomy still refuses to comment on masternodes and shows no transparency on pay, burns, ico etc. very shady and secretive.

Fwiw, https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/#@inflation

Looks like ~5 million have been burned but without a reference point (e.g. how many have been exchanged to ION?) it's hard to say what that means. And last burn was two weeks ago. I know, wallet issues and all that, but you'd think someone could dedicate 15 minutes and burn small amounts each day just to show they care.

[o0o0]

note - ionomy still refuses to comment on masternodes and shows no transparency on pay, burns, ico etc. very shady and secretive.

Fwiw, https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/#@inflation

thats paycoin not ionomy...

im referring to masternodes if the ion team will make them.. how they pay themselves the payment addresses of premine to watch
the burn addresses of xpy
why they didn't just give customers direct personal burn addresses to allocate instead of this lame excuse it crashes every 100k send

we know paycoin is revolutionary shady.

i want to see ion.

But of course the retort from huey aka adam matlack is just like garza.... provide info just because we say so haha like he posted on his slack. He says nothing like garza... thats a comment EXACTLY LIKE GARZA... If adam was different he'd be lining up to prove he isn't and answer the questions and show the info. He's the same just quieter behind the scenes and playing the wronged person violin.

[CryptoBuds]

note - ionomy still refuses to comment on masternodes and shows no transparency on pay, burns, ico etc. very shady and secretive.

Fwiw, https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/#@inflation

thats paycoin not ionomy...

im referring to masternodes if the ion team will make them.. how they pay themselves the payment addresses of premine to watch
the burn addresses of xpy
why they didn't just give customers direct personal burn addresses to allocate instead of this lame excuse it crashes every 100k send

we know paycoin is revolutionary shady.

i want to see ion.

But of course the retort from huey aka adam matlack is just like garza.... provide info just because we say so haha like he posted on his slack. He says nothing like garza... thats a comment EXACTLY LIKE GARZA... If adam was different he'd be lining up to prove he isn't and answer the questions and show the info. He's the same just quieter behind the scenes and playing the wronged person violin.

He's afraid to come on here and answer the hard questions. He is lowering the already low reputation every day that he hides behind Slack. I can't for the life of me figure out why they are so arrogant to honk they don't have to prove anything to anybody nor be transparent. Unbelievable attitude coming from the XPY crew...biggest scam of 2015.

[o0o0]

note - ionomy still refuses to comment on masternodes and shows no transparency on pay, burns, ico etc. very shady and secretive.

Fwiw, https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/#@inflation

thats paycoin not ionomy...

im referring to masternodes if the ion team will make them.. how they pay themselves the payment addresses of premine to watch
the burn addresses of xpy
why they didn't just give customers direct personal burn addresses to allocate instead of this lame excuse it crashes every 100k send

we know paycoin is revolutionary shady.

i want to see ion.

But of course the retort from huey aka adam matlack is just like garza.... provide info just because we say so haha like he posted on his slack. He says nothing like garza... thats a comment EXACTLY LIKE GARZA... If adam was different he'd be lining up to prove he isn't and answer the questions and show the info. He's the same just quieter behind the scenes and playing the wronged person violin.

He's afraid to come on here and answer the hard questions. He is lowering the already low reputation every day that he hides behind Slack. I can't for the life of me figure out why they are so arrogant to honk they don't have to prove anything to anybody nor be transparent. Unbelievable attitude coming from the XPY crew...biggest scam of 2015.

They aren't hard questions they are easy questions. They are hard because they don't have a way to answer it without exposing what they are really doing.

Its how business works. If you cry trolls are the reason we failed then you were destined to fail from the beginning. If its legit and there is nothing shady its easy to stand tall answer the questions. The truth beats any amount of negative press thrown at you.

Ionomy is just xpy with a new coat of paint. Its the same prime controller, staker plan with changed values under a new name. Its like pepsi and coke they are both cola... the difference is neither company denies its cola. Ionomy is trying to say its in no way xpy influenced. It clearly is.

I just feel sorry for the people on this bandwagon. Though *sigh* im sure in 7 months there will be another coin with a ion trade in and mrcoins will be here again to say its not like ion or xpy i've done my research. You just can't help some people.

Maybe i should start up a coin protection program. Basically all the xpy and ion folks give me 10btc each. I hold it and refuse to give it to them until the next scam coin goes down. Then i return to them 9btc and keep 1btc myself. I call this a savings plan because by holding their 10btc i saved them losing 9btc of it... i simply take 1btc as my cost. They get 9btc back instead of the 9 they would have lost in the investment.

Ingenious hey?

[CryptoBuds]

note - ionomy still refuses to comment on masternodes and shows no transparency on pay, burns, ico etc. very shady and secretive.

Fwiw, https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/#@inflation

thats paycoin not ionomy...

im referring to masternodes if the ion team will make them.. how they pay themselves the payment addresses of premine to watch
the burn addresses of xpy
why they didn't just give customers direct personal burn addresses to allocate instead of this lame excuse it crashes every 100k send

we know paycoin is revolutionary shady.

i want to see ion.

But of course the retort from huey aka adam matlack is just like garza.... provide info just because we say so haha like he posted on his slack. He says nothing like garza... thats a comment EXACTLY LIKE GARZA... If adam was different he'd be lining up to prove he isn't and answer the questions and show the info. He's the same just quieter behind the scenes and playing the wronged person violin.

He's afraid to come on here and answer the hard questions. He is lowering the already low reputation every day that he hides behind Slack. I can't for the life of me figure out why they are so arrogant to honk they don't have to prove anything to anybody nor be transparent. Unbelievable attitude coming from the XPY crew...biggest scam of 2015.

They aren't hard questions they are easy questions. They are hard because they don't have a way to answer it without exposing what they are really doing.

Its how business works. If you cry trolls are the reason we failed then you were destined to fail from the beginning. If its legit and there is nothing shady its easy to stand tall answer the questions. The truth beats any amount of negative press thrown at you.

Ionomy is just xpy with a new coat of paint. Its the same prime controller, staker plan with changed values under a new name. Its like pepsi and coke they are both cola... the difference is neither company denies its cola. Ionomy is trying to say its in no way xpy influenced. It clearly is.

I just feel sorry for the people on this bandwagon. Though *sigh* im sure in 7 months there will be another coin with a ion trade in and mrcoins will be here again to say its not like ion or xpy i've done my research. You just can't help some people.

Maybe i should start up a coin protection program. Basically all the xpy and ion folks give me 10btc each. I hold it and refuse to give it to them until the next scam coin goes down. Then i return to them 9btc and keep 1btc myself. I call this a savings plan because by holding their 10btc i saved them losing 9btc of it... i simply take 1btc as my cost. They get 9btc back instead of the 9 they would have lost in the investment.

Ingenious hey?

I think you're on to something here! Run it past them. I'm sure quite a few wish this option was available a year ago and they chose it. ION wouldn't even exist. Aaaaaahhhhhhh...ION is YOUR fault!

[suchmoon]

I think you're on to something here! Run it past them. I'm sure quite a few wish this option was available a year ago and they chose it. ION wouldn't even exist. Aaaaaahhhhhhh...ION is YOUR fault!

There is no doubt. It's always the trolls' fault. I'm sure that's what Garza is telling the alphabet people right now.

As for the savings plan itself - it won't work unless it has a snazzy website with some kind of a gadget showing how much you saved. Those customers have high standards you know.

[CryptoBuds]

I think truths will be uncovered with due time, if i were him i would be preoccupied on my project instead of giving people peace of mind of his innocence on this forum. That's just the way I see it.

But what the fuck do I know right ?

Absolutely! Why provide truths and transparency before starting a new project? Especially when your last project was XPY. Makes no sense to me.

Why the fuck should I trust a word that Huey says? I don't know him. I only know what I read on the forums. He has never cleared anything up or answered questions so I have to assume they are truths. And this is his damn project, you'd think he'd want to be transparent, especially after being scammed for so much. So why would I invest in a project, that a person that I have no clue who he is other than a person heavily involved in XPY, that won't answer questions or provide simple addresses for transparency? Please explain this to me.

[o0o0]

I think truths will be uncovered with due time, if i were him i would be preoccupied on my project instead of giving people peace of mind of his innocence on this forum. That's just the way I see it.

But what the fuck do I know right ?

I guess a year ago josh garza was preoccupied with his project instead of giving people peace of mind of his innocence on this forum? Thats the way that it can be seen too.

But correct what the fuck do you know right?

[o0o0]

I think you're on to something here! Run it past them. I'm sure quite a few wish this option was available a year ago and they chose it. ION wouldn't even exist. Aaaaaahhhhhhh...ION is YOUR fault!

There is no doubt. It's always the trolls' fault. I'm sure that's what Garza is telling the alphabet people right now.

As for the savings plan itself - it won't work unless it has a snazzy website with some kind of a gadget showing how much you saved. Those customers have high standards you know.

Maybe a flying rocket ship with a count down for locking the vault before take off? I could have a changing hash rate security combo lock to show its under lock and key and protected and offer different plans like 3,6 and 9 month protection. The money unlocks after that date depending on how gullible you are.. if you are really gullible you should take the 9 month protection plan. That way long term you are protected from your btc so as not to use it.

Your children will thank me when they get to go to college because you can still afford it.

I could put some testimonials up too