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November 27, 2014, 05:06:48 PM |
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If you bought Bitcoin between December 2013 and October 2014 you lost money, period.
and if you buy into this GAW shitcoin, you will lose money. I wouldn't be so sure. Many altcoins succeeded, this one has at least 50/50 chance. the problem with that is that BTC was never WORTH those 800$. It was a massive artificial bubble that mtgox buttraper extraordinaire Mar Karpeles had caused by using trading bots that made the price go up without their being any real demand.
The price we see nowadays is much more realistic, personally, I think it will never go back to those heights again, but stabilize around the value we see now. maybe a plus of 20-25 % over the next couple of years.
It was worth what people paid for it. Try telling someone who dumped at 800 and now holds fiat that it was never worth it. He has the money in hand. I agree that we may neved see $800 again, but it wasn't only Karpeles. I think Chinese markets did even more pumping. |
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November 27, 2014, 05:09:57 PM |
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If you bought Bitcoin between December 2013 and October 2014 you lost money, period.
and if you buy into this GAW shitcoin, you will lose money. I wouldn't be so sure. Many altcoins succeeded, this one has at least 50/50 chance. i'm sure. show many any altcoin which has 'succeeded' outside of it's own fanboi community please? this one certainly does not have a 50/50 chance because for that to be true, it would need to have at least 50% of the number of users that Bitcoin already has. GAW are taking your BTC and selling you a lame horse, it's as simple as that. |
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November 27, 2014, 05:25:07 PM |
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November 27, 2014, 05:27:10 PM |
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i'd like to order 1 of Kelly Raney please, how much in BTC for one night? solicitors, right? |
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November 27, 2014, 06:56:05 PM |
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Why should I or anybody else care what happened 3 years ago? Most people never heard of bitcoin back then, before it appeared in the media.
Most people who are now in Bitcoin came after the pump in December. Check the number of addresses made in the last 12 months. If you bought Bitcoin between December 2013 and October 2014 you lost money, period.
Your statement is provably false. There were a number of periods where the price of BTC was below $370 between Dec '13 and Oct '14. |
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November 27, 2014, 06:58:55 PM |
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I wouldn't be so sure. Many altcoins succeeded, this one has at least 50/50 chance.
And what are the metrics of "success" that you're applying to all of these shitcoins? Where can I spend them? What payment processors are taking them? I'll concede that Paycoin has a 50/50 chance... with the "success" being a huge pump and dump and then being worthless after all the clowns involved lose their shirts. |
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November 27, 2014, 07:02:44 PM |
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I wouldn't be so sure. Many altcoins succeeded, this one has at least 50/50 chance.
And what are the metrics of "success" that you're applying to all of these shitcoins? Where can I spend them? What payment processors are taking them? I'll concede that Paycoin has a 50/50 chance... with the "success" being a huge pump and dump and then being worthless after all the clowns involved lose their shirts. dropt, your predictions always stink of inevitability but i fear you are placing too much onus on the percentage of chance that Paycoin has of success. ultimately, this may be your undoing  /s |
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November 27, 2014, 07:04:07 PM |
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Lol all shitcoin are failure, look at Litecoin
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November 27, 2014, 07:04:58 PM |
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dropt, your predictions always stink of inevitability but i fear you are placing too much onus on the percentage of chance that Paycoin has of success. ultimately, this may be your undoing /s I fear you might be right, at least, that or I confused GAW's Paycoin with the altcoin "Paycoin" that already exists.  |
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November 27, 2014, 07:06:47 PM |
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dropt, your predictions always stink of inevitability but i fear you are placing too much onus on the percentage of chance that Paycoin has of success. ultimately, this may be your undoing /s I fear you might be right, at least, that or I confused GAW's Paycoin with the altcoin "Paycoin" that already exists.
perhaps they intend to merge mine Paycoin with Paycoin. that would confuse the shit out of their victims. |
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November 27, 2014, 07:09:18 PM |
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perhaps they intend to merge mine Paycoin with Paycoin.
that would confuse the shit out of their victims.
I wonder what would happen if the original Paycoin people sent Homero a cease and desist. |
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November 27, 2014, 07:10:52 PM |
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Why should I or anybody else care what happened 3 years ago? Most people never heard of bitcoin back then, before it appeared in the media.
Most people who are now in Bitcoin came after the pump in December. Check the number of addresses made in the last 12 months. If you bought Bitcoin between December 2013 and October 2014 you lost money, period.
Your statement is provably false. There were a number of periods where the price of BTC was below $370 between Dec '13 and Oct '14. A number? According to bitstamp there was only 1 in April and the only way you could take advantage of it was if you had a buy order already in place, but you're right, there were opportunities to buy and sell with a profit. That statement should say: "If you bought Bitcoin between December 2013 and October 2014 and held, you lost money, unless you bought the bottom on April 10/11" |
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November 27, 2014, 07:12:22 PM |
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perhaps they intend to merge mine Paycoin with Paycoin.
that would confuse the shit out of their victims.
I wonder what would happen if the original Paycoin people sent Homero a cease and desist. Paybase also already exists |
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November 27, 2014, 07:18:16 PM |
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Lol all shitcoin are failure, look at Litecoin
Doge isn't doing bad. Some people made a lot of dough on it Ryan Kennedy sure did |
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November 27, 2014, 07:41:35 PM |
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A number? According to bitstamp there was only 1 in April and the only way you could take advantage of it was if you had a buy order already in place, but you're right, there were opportunities to buy and sell with a profit. That statement should say: "If you bought Bitcoin between December 2013 and October 2014 and held, you lost money, unless you bought the bottom on April 10/11"
If you want to only focus on lows of Bitstamp, then April 9/10, and don't forget Sept 8. Your amended statement is much better. |
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November 27, 2014, 07:43:05 PM |
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perhaps they intend to merge mine Paycoin with Paycoin.
that would confuse the shit out of their victims.
I wonder what would happen if the original Paycoin people sent Homero a cease and desist. Paybase also already exists What an idiot. |
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November 27, 2014, 07:45:45 PM |
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Homero is running a bigger scam than even wolf of wall street could have imagined. He's printing his own shares to sell for free
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November 27, 2014, 08:14:53 PM |
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https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/About-Products/PayCoin/m-p/910966theshadehut New Community Member New Community Member Posts: 1 Kudos: 0 Accepted Solutions: 0 Re: PayCoin? [ Edited ] 11-26-2014 12:35 PM - edited 11-26-2014 12:36 PM Cantor-Fitzgerald is also backing them along with many other investors and a very very large, satisfied, and happy customer base
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November 27, 2014, 08:34:47 PM |
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https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/About-Products/PayCoin/m-p/910966theshadehut New Community Member New Community Member Posts: 1 Kudos: 0 Accepted Solutions: 0 Re: PayCoin? [ Edited ] 11-26-2014 12:35 PM - edited 11-26-2014 12:36 PM Cantor-Fitzgerald is also backing them along with many other investors and a very very large, satisfied, and happy customer base What a genuis marketing ploy, 'lie like a GAW CEO.'(™) |
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November 27, 2014, 09:30:42 PM |
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Just dropping in to say Happy Thanksgiving to everyone enjoying the US holiday today.
Likewise, after the holiday, some new evidence against GAW Miners LLC (going back to day-one) will be explored and likely shared for public feedback once I get the "OK". In the mean time, anyone who has purchased and received a physical hardware based "GAW Miners" branded or third party miner from Mr. Garza directly, GAW Miners LLC, and/or any of his/their resellers, please post what was purchased here (including date and quantity) or PM me the info directly. If the OP here wishes, I will create a new thread or web site to handle the info received as not to clutter up this thread.
Again, have a great holiday!
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