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[bitcoinnoisseur]

This just in:

New Trolls
I feel like a lot of the new trolls are just over the line creepy.

They post pictures of me, copy every twitter comment I make, and talk about me more then a school girl with a crush......very much stalker status....

Anyone else noticing this? :grinning:

Don't let that fool you. He loves ALL attention. He grins after every comment too. That is what I find creepy.

[T0urist]

Thanks for the explanation, was wondering what the 2 addresses paying to 1 address were for. I was looking at other addresses that signed up on the same day and tried to follow payments to their addresses 1 month later (give or take a couple of days), didn't find much of the same payment addresses, maybe some didn't complete the sig. Will look more into this when I have some time to play (not that I will find anything but hope to learn more about how blockchain/payments work).

Thanks again for the lesson, it was a valuable one for me

See my edit, I think I found the link to the 1P62 address. Not sure if that proves anything though. Do we now if that's really GAW's address and not e.g. a hot wallet at some exchange?

It might be interesting to try to cross link it to ZenCloud deposits and withdrawals, and also see if any anonymous pools (e.g. Eligius, NiceHash, CleverMining) are linked to it. Or to any newly generated coins.

Here's my original post on that address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9610951#msg9610951

I don't think it's an exchange because 99% of the payments being sent are below 0.001 btc.

Many payments sent to 1P6 can be traced directly back to 1P6 but some just lead to addresses with a bunch of unintelligible inputs. I'm not sure if they are using a mixer but it does seem deliberately confusing. Still I've never found a single payment that came from newly generated coins.

Because there arent any newly minted coins. If there is mining occuring its way lower power than quoted. it'll go to a seperate private address as its personal mining profits hidden from public. All payouts will be confusing to follow as peoples cash are paying others payouts.

lets do rough calculations on no mining and payouts on 1 x 1mhz prime @ $40 @ 370$ per btc on zen pool without boosts
customer buy 1 x prime = 1 / 370 * 40 = 0.108btc
daily payout = 0.00030879 - 0.000216 (8c maintenance) = 0.00009279 btc
days of payouts on 1 prime sale = 0.108 / 0.00009279 = 1163 days
days extended payouts on market sale @ 10% (buy +sell) @ 40$
40*0.1=4.
convert to btc = 1/370*4=0.0108
convert to days at 0.00009279
0.0108/0.00009279=116 days

Each sale extends the prime life and liabilty of the company by 116 days. constant sales keep it profitable and ahead of payouts.

Is that the secret sauce case cracked? Need someone to double check numbers. Remember maintenance covers hosting, repairs electricity so dont argue about other costs. legal dev etc are a company take on expense. we were sold mining as mining NOT a company share. Miners should be exempt from those costs and workings.

[T0urist]

Someone here said people on HT were referring to tankjnr as Craig(as in the big time investor). According to his Twitter acct he is a Craig.

https://twitter.com/tankjnr

his holdings in gaw hashlets from what i can rough calc are
15801mh prime = 15801*20=$316,020
87045gh genesis = 87045*0.50=$43,522
8370mh solo = 8370*6=$50,220
total invested is $409,762 or 1107btc

note this is based on solo average $6 as there may be a mix of all types. lowest $3 highest $11.
primes were $16 now $40 something average it low at $20
genesis are 0.50 each gh on market likely bought higher
this also assumes normal price and not reseller/wholesale discount

per day that likely generates
prime (no dd or boost) = 15801*0.00009279=1.46617479btc or $542
genesis = 3cents per 10gh = 0.70577027btc or $261.14
solo = 8370*0.00009278= 0.7766523btc or $287.36

so 2.8btc a day profit or $1080 approx

thats a lot of invested cash and daily profit. Id be defensive and following in blind belief if i had that much at stake. it would be impossible to sell out at stakes that high.

[NeonTranceBadger]

Well this is interesting.  

[foodstamps]

This just in:

New Trolls
I feel like a lot of the new trolls are just over the line creepy.

They post pictures of me, copy every twitter comment I make, and talk about me more then a school girl with a crush......very much stalker status....

Anyone else noticing this? :grinning:

Don't let that fool you. He loves ALL attention. He grins after every comment too. That is what I find creepy.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

Well this is interesting.  

He also said he got over 5x his ROI which doesn't even make sense. I'll assume he meant he has earned 5x more than his initial investment. I absolutely do not believe that especially mining HP, which I'm sure he was forced to, the last 2 months. He's probably including the $50 he could get for his primes in that 5x ROI comment. Either way I do not believe a word of anything he's reSELLING.

[welchy8764]

I made a new account to hashtalk and posted:

"I just wanted to ask around, that when you get shadowbanned for normal conversation (although I was not hyping GAW either), are you supposed to register a new account, wait x days or just stay the f**k away from GAW and Paycoin in the future?

If not the 3:rd option, do I need to hype GAW in every post not to be banned?

Thanks"

Here is the result, in 2 minutes 2 mods replied, shut down the thread and banned my account

https://hashtalk.org/topic/20983/censorship-is-real-on-hashtalk/3

Welcome to the club.. Whats the sense of asking questions that make sense to someone who doesn't make sense? The whole Paycoin AKA Project Prime(No primes left in it now) will be debacle and the folks who asked the legit questions will be banned and looking at this from the outside saying we tried to warn you GAW Skinheads but you didn't listen!!

Look at this from a 10,000 ft level . No Devs, No proof of any kind anyone has invested in this BS, No Wallet,  no blockchain and a whitepaper that you can use to wipe your ass with because it's meaningless now.

I'm In!! I Have some money to throw at this!!  

Soon (tm) you will either look down at everyone like a prophet or will eat your words

https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/539626313456549888

Saw a working version of a paycoin wallet today. Also saw some Prime controllers in action! Source code to be released soon

This should be very interesting? 

Lets see how do you release a wallet and source code without actually showing everyone? You place a pretend cloud object on your website and say that this will only run in GAW environment and due to NDA you are not allowed to release the source code for the wallet..

[T0urist]

you have to own a prime controller to unlock the source. the source is encrypted with hyperflex chain and needs to decrypted with the thermodynamic decoupler.

[alienesb]

you have to own a prime controller to unlock the source. the source is encrypted with hyperflex chain and needs to decrypted with the thermodynamic decoupler.

The prime controller uses 1.21 jiggawatts of power I heard.

[T0urist]

This should be very interesting? 

Lets see how do you release a wallet and source code without actually showing everyone? You place a pretend cloud object on your website and say that this will only run in GAW environment and due to NDA you are not allowed to release the source code for the wallet..

you zip it with a proprietry zipping algorithm and release the file that cant be unzipped due to nda partnership. the source is open and released. you just cant view it.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

I have a dream. Someday I to want to possess the power to comprehend Paycoin.

[NeonTranceBadger]

Well this is interesting.  

He also said he got over 5x his ROI which doesn't even make sense. I'll assume he meant he has earned 5x more than his initial investment. I absolutely do not believe that especially mining HP, which I'm sure he was forced to, the last 2 months. He's probably including the $50 he could get for his primes in that 5x ROI comment. Either way I do not believe a word of anything he's reSELLING.

Yep he did include the $50 he could sell them for today.  I think he was just throwing crap out as gaw people do with nothing to back it up.  Every question someone asked was responded with watch the Q&A tomorrow.  You mean the heavily moderated and pre-chosen questions Q&A.  

[T0urist]

I have a dream. Someday I to want to possess the power to comprehend Paycoin.

I think thats something you and josh share in common . Maybe you could discuss it over a beer heh im sure he could afford to shout you one  

Has anyone maybe coinfire emailed cantor / stuart fraser to confirm? May link posts to statements?

I had another thought... i wonder if amazon , target and wallmart have already c&d him. it would explain post removal and change to plugin system.

[welchy8764]

you have to own a prime controller to unlock the source. the source is encrypted with hyperflex chain and needs to decrypted with the thermodynamic decoupler.

I believe in the Hyperflex environment the Prime Controllers will cause Transactional Immutability thus notifying back to the Orion controllers and any node using the Hyperflex blockchain the  updated ledger. This in turn will cause less bloat on the hyperflex blockchain and quicken transactions of the "Lite chain" and allow for an extensible blockchain.  

[I_IZ_CEO]

Thanks for the explanation, was wondering what the 2 addresses paying to 1 address were for. I was looking at other addresses that signed up on the same day and tried to follow payments to their addresses 1 month later (give or take a couple of days), didn't find much of the same payment addresses, maybe some didn't complete the sig. Will look more into this when I have some time to play (not that I will find anything but hope to learn more about how blockchain/payments work).

Thanks again for the lesson, it was a valuable one for me

See my edit, I think I found the link to the 1P62 address. Not sure if that proves anything though. Do we now if that's really GAW's address and not e.g. a hot wallet at some exchange?

It might be interesting to try to cross link it to ZenCloud deposits and withdrawals, and also see if any anonymous pools (e.g. Eligius, NiceHash, CleverMining) are linked to it. Or to any newly generated coins.

Here's my original post on that address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9610951#msg9610951

I don't think it's an exchange because 99% of the payments being sent are below 0.001 btc.

Many payments sent to 1P6 can be traced directly back to 1P6 but some just lead to addresses with a bunch of unintelligible inputs. I'm not sure if they are using a mixer but it does seem deliberately confusing. Still I've never found a single payment that came from newly generated coins.

Good, thank you. So it seems reasonable to assume that 1P62 is their main hot wallet, and it had a ~28k turnover in 2 months, which would make that part of WSJ validation correct.

I tracked a couple of my old withdrawals and they originated from 1P62 as well, about 10-20 hops apart.

Not sure how to prove or disprove the mining part though. They could say their coins have to go through a mixer to obfuscate "business secrets" therefore newly generated coins won't be directly linked. Perhaps something could be done tracking deposits, but I'm not about to try that since my withdrawals are not working.

Very nice work.

I cant figure out how they will pay

Well the title says it all.

HashStaker 3 months
Wallet size: 1 Paycoin
Period: 3 Months
Price: $9.95
Profit: 35% to 80%

HashStaker 6 months
Wallet size: 1 Paycoin
Period: 6 Months
Price: $17.95
Profit: 50% to 100%

You will need 1 Paycoin to activate the Staker after you bought it and that paycoin will be returned to you after the Staking period is over.

Bank pays out for 6mo min in a savings (highest payout compared to cod, checking, bonds), Initial Deposit $5000 - $9000




Is he the

Thank you very, very, much indeed Robin Hood?

[NeonTranceBadger]

you have to own a prime controller to unlock the source. the source is encrypted with hyperflex chain and needs to decrypted with the thermodynamic decoupler.

I believe in the Hyperflex environment the Prime Controllers will cause Transactional Immutability thus notifying back to the Orion controllers and any node using the Hyperflex blockchain the  updated ledger. This in turn will cause less bloat on the hyperflex blockchain and quicken transactions of the "Lite chain" and allow for an extensible blockchain.  

But where does the Flux Capacitor fit into all this?

[vipgelsi]

No money to be found here.

[welchy8764]

you have to own a prime controller to unlock the source. the source is encrypted with hyperflex chain and needs to decrypted with the thermodynamic decoupler.

I believe in the Hyperflex environment the Prime Controllers will cause Transactional Immutability thus notifying back to the Orion controllers and any node using the Hyperflex blockchain the  updated ledger. This in turn will cause less bloat on the hyperflex blockchain and quicken transactions of the "Lite chain" and allow for an extensible blockchain.  

But where does the Flux Capacitor fit into all this?

 "Forget it. I wrote it. A good engineer is always a wee bit conservative, at least on paper. Just bypass the secondary cut-off valve and boost the flow. It'll work"  Words of Wisdom from "Scotty"

[I_IZ_CEO]

you have to own a prime controller to unlock the source. the source is encrypted with hyperflex chain and needs to decrypted with the thermodynamic decoupler.

I believe in the Hyperflex environment the Prime Controllers will cause Transactional Immutability thus notifying back to the Orion controllers and any node using the Hyperflex blockchain the  updated ledger. This in turn will cause less bloat on the hyperflex blockchain and quicken transactions of the "Lite chain" and allow for an extensible blockchain.  

But where does the Flux Capacitor fit into all this?

Its a trade secret and only 4 people know it:

1: Homero
2: Koolio
3: Fontas
4: Wolong

[bitcoinnoisseur]

Newly released photo of Prime Controller In Action!