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December 05, 2014, 04:07:30 PM
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I should buy that USB it could be valuable after all that shit collapse, and I can also show it to the people at Bitcoin conferences. Could be a good evidence for how far a scam can go Smiley and it is only 99$



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December 05, 2014, 04:08:20 PM
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The Problem I see with GAW right now(and yes I am sure there are more) is they Keep pushing out the Conversion from HP to Paycoin. Its like someone stated before its like the state farm commercial. I got a dollar for you. With the dollar hanging off the end of the fish hook. How blind do you have to be to see the hook keeps going out more and more.

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December 05, 2014, 04:09:25 PM
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The only Problem I see with GAW right now is they Keep pushing out the Conversion from HP to Paycoin. Its like someone stated before its like the state farm commercial. I got a dollar for you. With the dollar hanging off the end of the fish hook. How blind do you have to be to see the hook keeps going out more and more.

A carrot on a string makes a horse walk forward. I guess dollars on a string makes a lemming walk forward.

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December 05, 2014, 04:10:05 PM
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The mods said he used abusive language in direct chat with them. Also another guy got banned for supporting GAW because he used abusive language towards someone who was bashing GAW. The mods said we are not afraid to use the ban hammer so watch yourselves. That forum is like a prison camp where the prisoners have been worn out to submission.

I would be curious to see how that conversation went, something like "remove or edit something... no I won't... yes you will or you're out of here... no I won't, you're abusing your powers.. I'll ask you one last time or you'll be banned... PMS today??.. See ya!"
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December 05, 2014, 04:10:40 PM
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I should buy that USB it could be valuable after all that shit collapse, and I can also show it to the people at Bitcoin conferences. Could be a good evidence for how far a scam can go Smiley and it is only 99$


What are they going to do with all the hash gear from hashbase.com???  since there will no longer be hashlets???  Gonna have quite a back stock.....maybe burn to fuel miners Wink

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December 05, 2014, 04:11:55 PM
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I should buy that USB it could be valuable after all that shit collapse, and I can also show it to the people at Bitcoin conferences. Could be a good evidence for how far a scam can go Smiley and it is only 99$


What are they going to do with all the hash gear from hashbase.com???  since there will no longer be hashlets???  Gonna have quite a back stock.....maybe burn to fuel miners Wink

You can upgrade it to StakeGear that will disintegrate in three or six months.

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December 05, 2014, 04:12:03 PM
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Little left for Josh to lock the cage, after conversion people won't be able to exit from system and also won't be able to sell their Primes and after that thing they will be more and more aggressive and desperate. This shit makes me sad
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December 05, 2014, 04:13:13 PM
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I read that forum. I thought someone was starting to question the problem. Unless the OP got way out of hand in more then one post. I did not see anything there to ban for. I could understand people calling troll when Zencloud was running at the high end. But right now people should be listening and learning. Most things I have read are not trolling but trying to Cover peoples butts. So they dont get stuck.

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December 05, 2014, 04:13:26 PM
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The only Problem I see with GAW right now is they Keep pushing out the Conversion from HP to Paycoin. Its like someone stated before its like the state farm commercial. I got a dollar for you. With the dollar hanging off the end of the fish hook. How blind do you have to be to see the hook keeps going out more and more.

There is no substantive difference between HashPoints and PayCoin at the moment. Who cares when it "switches?" Right now, they're just different names for the same thing. It's like if he's pushing back the date to convert from pennies to dollars.

What matters is the Dec 19th date for being able to sell PayCoin for BTC. If there's no "switch" by then, or if the BTC can't be directly withdrawn, or if anything, really, that keeps people from liquidating happens, there will be a hard market shock.

The switch from HP to PC is meaningless. That's not the thing that matters.
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December 05, 2014, 04:14:46 PM
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I have read one page on this post and I could not read anymore.  A lot of you I am not sure your either bitter or children.

How many of you have supported a coin that lets be honest has failed?

How many of you have lost money?

I bet a lot of you.

Well I know GAW customers who have not lost any money.  In fact until a month ago.  Everyone was making money at GAW.

Now Josh and his team knows as well as most of you know.  Most pools and coins are slowing down or not making any profit now.   So they have created a new coin and not just a coin a system where they is no difficulty.  They have put millions into this (unlike all past coins) Yes its all new (and some old) yes they is a chance it will fail.  But with the money behind GAW they are trying to bring crypto to the masses.

This is all good for the Crypto World.

So grow up or step back.
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December 05, 2014, 04:17:35 PM
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The Problem I see with GAW right now(and yes I am sure there are more) is they Keep pushing out the Conversion from HP to Paycoin. Its like someone stated before its like the state farm commercial. I got a dollar for you. With the dollar hanging off the end of the fish hook. How blind do you have to be to see the hook keeps going out more and more.
lol that was me that said that lol i am shocked someone remembered that i posted that like 40 pages ago. Still i think it is the same concept in my opinion  Cool

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December 05, 2014, 04:17:48 PM
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The only Problem I see with GAW right now is they Keep pushing out the Conversion from HP to Paycoin. Its like someone stated before its like the state farm commercial. I got a dollar for you. With the dollar hanging off the end of the fish hook. How blind do you have to be to see the hook keeps going out more and more.

There is no substantive difference between HashPoints and PayCoin at the moment. Who cares when it "switches?" Right now, they're just different names for the same thing. It's like if he's pushing back the date to convert from pennies to dollars.

What matters is the Dec 19th date for being able to sell PayCoin for BTC. If there's no "switch" by then, or if the BTC can't be directly withdrawn, or if anything, really, that keeps people from liquidating happens, there will be a hard market shock.

The switch from HP to PC is meaningless. That's not the thing that matters.

Has he said Dec 19th will be when you can sell for BTC or was that just when the conversion for HP to Paycoin is supposed to happen? 

Doesn't matter cuz it will never happen. There is no PayCoin and probably will never be a PayCoin. Even crap like FLIRT had a much smoother opening that this GAW imaginary crap. Just keep pushing it back and getting the lemmings to "invest" (or is that throw away) more money.

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December 05, 2014, 04:22:08 PM
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The only Problem I see with GAW right now is they Keep pushing out the Conversion from HP to Paycoin. Its like someone stated before its like the state farm commercial. I got a dollar for you. With the dollar hanging off the end of the fish hook. How blind do you have to be to see the hook keeps going out more and more.

There is no substantive difference between HashPoints and PayCoin at the moment. Who cares when it "switches?" Right now, they're just different names for the same thing. It's like if he's pushing back the date to convert from pennies to dollars.

What matters is the Dec 19th date for being able to sell PayCoin for BTC. If there's no "switch" by then, or if the BTC can't be directly withdrawn, or if anything, really, that keeps people from liquidating happens, there will be a hard market shock.

The switch from HP to PC is meaningless. That's not the thing that matters.

HP to PC is important because we keep mining HP until conversion, and we won't be able to mine HP (or PC) after that's done. So postponing that date is giving everyone more PayCoins, which doesn't make any sense at all, given their boasting about no premine, limited availability, high demand from big investors etc.

I have a feeling there are technical issues behind this, and the postponement is supposed to make everyone happy (yay, more coins).

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December 05, 2014, 04:24:38 PM
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I have a feeling there are technical issues behind this, and the postponement is supposed to make everyone happy (yay, more coins).

That's my thought as well. The development is behind schedule, so they have to keep putting off the introduction of the actual coin.

Although, if they just don't release a wallet, they can just relabel HP as PC, divide all amounts by 400, and do the "conversion" without an actual coin in existence. I'm not sure what technical issue would prevent that.
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December 05, 2014, 04:25:38 PM
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The only Problem I see with GAW right now is they Keep pushing out the Conversion from HP to Paycoin. Its like someone stated before its like the state farm commercial. I got a dollar for you. With the dollar hanging off the end of the fish hook. How blind do you have to be to see the hook keeps going out more and more.

There is no substantive difference between HashPoints and PayCoin at the moment. Who cares when it "switches?" Right now, they're just different names for the same thing. It's like if he's pushing back the date to convert from pennies to dollars.

What matters is the Dec 19th date for being able to sell PayCoin for BTC. If there's no "switch" by then, or if the BTC can't be directly withdrawn, or if anything, really, that keeps people from liquidating happens, there will be a hard market shock.

The switch from HP to PC is meaningless. That's not the thing that matters.

Has he said Dec 19th will be when you can sell for BTC or was that just when the conversion for HP to Paycoin is supposed to happen? 

It's the BTC date here: http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/376190/GAW-Timeline/

HP to PayCoin was supposed to happen on November 24, then December 8, now "end of POW stage" in "little over two weeks", so it might be around the same date.

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December 05, 2014, 04:27:10 PM
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The only Problem I see with GAW right now is they Keep pushing out the Conversion from HP to Paycoin. Its like someone stated before its like the state farm commercial. I got a dollar for you. With the dollar hanging off the end of the fish hook. How blind do you have to be to see the hook keeps going out more and more.

There is no substantive difference between HashPoints and PayCoin at the moment. Who cares when it "switches?" Right now, they're just different names for the same thing. It's like if he's pushing back the date to convert from pennies to dollars.

What matters is the Dec 19th date for being able to sell PayCoin for BTC. If there's no "switch" by then, or if the BTC can't be directly withdrawn, or if anything, really, that keeps people from liquidating happens, there will be a hard market shock.

The switch from HP to PC is meaningless. That's not the thing that matters.

HP to PC is important because we keep mining HP until conversion, and we won't be able to mine HP (or PC) after that's done. So postponing that date is giving everyone more PayCoins, which doesn't make any sense at all, given their boasting about no premine, limited availability, high demand from big investors etc.

I have a feeling there are technical issues behind this, and the postponement is supposed to make everyone happy (yay, more coins).

They are premining it now. Said so somewhere and also "testing" a public mining pool. That is where GAW is supposedly getting the coins to give the lemmings, excuse me, GAWdicts who are "mining" (waiting around) for daily HP handouts. I want to see a wallet and a public blockchain explorer before I believe this coin is real.

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December 05, 2014, 04:34:11 PM
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During the Q&A session jmordica avoid to respond technical questions and act quite weirdo, someone able to read body language can easily say that. There is something wrong with all that shit. Actually there are lots of wrong things in that shit.

But I still believe if there is a coin (maybe there would be no coin, and they are just lying, I am not even sure about that) whatsoever, I believe if there is a coin I am able to sell it at the beginning to some of those believers
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December 05, 2014, 04:34:54 PM
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The Problem I see with GAW right now(and yes I am sure there are more) is they Keep pushing out the Conversion from HP to Paycoin. Its like someone stated before its like the state farm commercial. I got a dollar for you. With the dollar hanging off the end of the fish hook. How blind do you have to be to see the hook keeps going out more and more.

That is only the most recent "tip of the iceburg".  I have been with GAW since almost the beginning the the pattern is pretty darn black and white by now...

(1) It started with hosted miners, sold by GAW and hosted for "free" (included in price for one mont to one year when purchased through GAW).  GAW promised many features to the hosting that never materialized.  Power outages and network problems mean lots of down time or partially working miners (which, in fairness, Josh provided compensation for in the form of store credits for me at least).  No features ever materialized.  Lots of problems with various pools (compatibility).

(2) GAW started zencloud as an upgrade to their hosted miner solution.  They claimed to have a new datacenter where all the power problems would be solved, and new software with all the  bells and whistles (to come).  Pools on zencloud were limited but were promised to open up.  Josh offered to switch me over for "free" to the new "beta" platform.  Miraculously, transferring a hosted miner from the old crummy data center to the new Zencloud datacenter took only minutes.  Must have some fast runners over there.

(3) Shortly thereafter, Josh announced hashlets.  Originally marketed as the next evolution of mining.  All owners of hosted miners were offered the opportunity to "upgrade" to hashlet mining.  Oh, and new features promised for Zencloud hosted mining?  Forget it.  Pool choice narrowed and development (if it was ever in development at all) stopped.  Upgrading hosted miners from Zencloud to hashlets was virtually compelled if you wanted to make any money and use the new "zenpool" which at the time was returning 2-4x what LTC mining was returning.  That lasted for only 2-3 weeks at which point zenpool become the same crap as other pools, but by then most folks had "upgraded" from hosting to Primes.

(4) After "upgrading" from hosted miners to hashlets, Josh started to come clean that, in fact, unlike with the alleged hosted miners, mining on hashlet via the listed pools did not result in any actual mining on those pools.  Instead, profits from from other activities like coin ICOs and renting of servers.

(5) After Zenpool tanked after only a few weeks, and Josh's promise to bring profits back to mining on Zenpool failed to materialize, we suddenly have the annoucement of Hashbase and Hashcoin aka Paycoin.  And, as predicable as the sun rising, Josh offered a new scheme to bring back profitability: mining Hashpoints which will convert into Paycoins.  Viola, and now we are completely off mining since hashpoints are nothing other than loyalty points.

(6) Now, as you point out, owners are forced to "upgrade" to Hashstakers and to use their loyalty program points (aka Hashpoints) to buy Paycoins to "stake" for 3-6 months while Josh works out his next plan.

Good luck to all of the poor folk who have fallen for this. I have whiplash now from just remembering all the twists and turns.

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December 05, 2014, 04:36:22 PM
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The only Problem I see with GAW right now is they Keep pushing out the Conversion from HP to Paycoin. Its like someone stated before its like the state farm commercial. I got a dollar for you. With the dollar hanging off the end of the fish hook. How blind do you have to be to see the hook keeps going out more and more.

There is no substantive difference between HashPoints and PayCoin at the moment. Who cares when it "switches?" Right now, they're just different names for the same thing. It's like if he's pushing back the date to convert from pennies to dollars.

What matters is the Dec 19th date for being able to sell PayCoin for BTC. If there's no "switch" by then, or if the BTC can't be directly withdrawn, or if anything, really, that keeps people from liquidating happens, there will be a hard market shock.

The switch from HP to PC is meaningless. That's not the thing that matters.

HP to PC is important because we keep mining HP until conversion, and we won't be able to mine HP (or PC) after that's done. So postponing that date is giving everyone more PayCoins, which doesn't make any sense at all, given their boasting about no premine, limited availability, high demand from big investors etc.

I have a feeling there are technical issues behind this, and the postponement is supposed to make everyone happy (yay, more coins).

They are premining it now. Said so somewhere and also "testing" a public mining pool. That is where GAW is supposedly getting the coins to give the lemmings, excuse me, GAWdicts who are "mining" (waiting around) for daily HP handouts. I want to see a wallet and a public blockchain explorer before I believe this coin is real.

I do not believe there will be a public mining pool. Not going to happen.
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December 05, 2014, 04:36:57 PM
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During the Q&A session jmordica avoid to respond technical questions and act quite weirdo, someone able to read body language can easily say that. There is something wrong with all that shit. Actually there are lots of wrong things in that shit.

But I still believe if there is a coin (maybe there would be no coin, and they are just lying, I am not even sure about that) whatsoever, I believe if there is a coin I am able to sell it at the beginning to some of those believers

Nobody looked comfortable during that Q&A. They are all hiding shit.

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