[ANN][VTR] vTorrent - Share with freedom | 2FA | HD | @Bittrex

[dukeneptun]

Not sure if stupid or trolling  to gather suckers

Just to be clear.

You are promoting that people invest in a project whose stated goal is to be an illegal site for distributing copyrighted materials.

You / the whatever site are asking people to invest using Bitcoin.

These Bitcoin payments can be tracked back to their owners, now or in the future, who then become a target for knowingly facilitating an illegal service. No. Worse. Receiving profits by virtue of having invested.

Prosecutor:  "I put it to you that you sent funds to an ICO address, knowing that the ICO was to raise funds for an overtly illegal website."

Defense: "Err...."

Prosecutor: "I put it to you that you were expecting to profit from the promotion of copyrighted materials and that you did in fact receieve some small profits from the illegal site you helped to set-up"

Defense:  "Err...."

As far as BitTorrent is concerned, that is a totally legal client. As far as I'm concerned, vTorrent is much the same.

So....GTO

Just to be clear I'll leave you with a quote from their dev.

You are welcome to your opinion and your own take on current events. We encourage all potential investors to do their research before making any decisions regarding our project.


We believe in the freedom of information and that traditional media has done the public a disservice in refusing to update their business model and evolve to reflect changing technology. Services such as Netflix and Hulu are a great step forward but are absolutely unusable in many areas of the world due to ridiculous licensing issues. Compare the selection of netflix inside the US to other areas of the world and the differences are astounding. This is before even taking into account the different economic conditions between countries.

Our site and our business model does not break any copyright laws in our country and while certain areas of the world may choose to argue that point, we are not hosting anything which is copyright but rather links that allow users to retrieve information on the content they are looking for. We have the ability to address the 2 biggest issues with traditional torrent sites. Number one, it simplifies the process requiring no third party software, extensions or custom browser addons. Number two, you do not have to dig through dozens or hundreds of results to find what you are looking for or require any special knowledge to ensure you are not exposed to malicious content.  We also solve the biggest issue with traditional streaming sites in that content linked from our website is decentralized and has no single point of failure.


Whatever the legal status of torrents in your area and whatever your moral stance on copyright law and traditional media is, it is undeniable that what our project looks to provide holds not only promise, but monetary value for investors. I would strongly encourage testing our second demo site as it goes live this weekend and doing research on similar services. Anyone who regularly uses stream or torrent sites will be able to see at a glance the power of what we are doing with this project.

I dont know why your attacking me!

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[rhinomonkey]

Sounds like you're trying to play the victim card. Just to be clear you came in to a coin's ANN forum and began shilling a different coin..... 

[rhinomonkey]

Guessing game:

101 VTRs to the person that can get closest to the the time of block 1,200,000

Closing date is 10 Dec, 00.00 GMT.

One entry per day allowed - so you can post one guess each day: up to 11.59 time, according to BCT post clock.

January 1st 1:24PM  

January 2nd 10:39AM  

Damn, forgot to post. For shits: maybe Santa is feeling generous... December 25th 4:00PM

January 1st 6:25PM  

December 31st 11:59pm  

January 1st 9:00AM  

Just under a month till new features in the wallet. And then the second hard fork is when? Like March? or February? I forget.

EDIT: My math tells me 69.4 days from the first hardfork... soo if January 1st is the first then the first week or second week of March will be the second one. 

January 1st, 3:00PM

[Corvette08]

So many angry people on this thread attacking anyone who asks some questions. You know when trying to build a community you should welcome questions, comments and even competition.

[leigh2k14]

Only one person is buying it.
He can't keep buying it eternally.
Bubble would end soon.
http://imgur.com/a/ydW6c

Use your real account.

I remember a few weeks back someone posted something similar (most likely you), then the price went up.

There's not many selling so close to the fork, don't be a douche and try get people to dump.

[NextTrade]

Yes, but that wouldn't follow buying lengthily.
There would be an intense dump after it.

There will be no dump since VTR is still heavily undervalue 

[dukeneptun]

Sounds like you're trying to play the victim card. Just to be clear you came in to a coin's ANN forum and began shilling a different coin..... 

I came and asked some questions. I dont think that's shilling. Did I come in here telling people to sell vtr and buy vidz? Nope! I just came asking some questions in order to get a good understanding of a possible investment and where better to ask questions then the thread of a coin who has been doing similar things for a while.

Then I realized you're not even doing the same thing but by then everyone was attacking me. I'll leave you all to your thread now full of hate. I've got all the information I need.
Thx.

[ik_do]

Sounds like you're trying to play the victim card. Just to be clear you came in to a coin's ANN forum and began shilling a different coin.....  

I came and asked some questions. I dont think that's shilling. Did I come in here telling people to sell vtr and buy vidz? Nope! I just came asking some questions in order to get a good understanding of a possible investment and where better to ask questions then the thread of a coin who has been doing similar things for a while.

Then I realized you're not even doing the same thing but by then everyone was attacking me. I'll leave you all to your thread now full of hate. I've got all the information I need.
Thx.

I think you misunderstand that although video forms a significant use case for Bittorrentt it is not a streaming technology.

Thus asking the difference between this project and a project that supposedly revolves around streaming is irrelevant.

If the other project actually involved bittorrent and not some attempt at reinventing the wheel with p2p file sharing then it'd be relevant too.

[ik_do]

BTW I'm pretty sure that wallet 0 is actually a bot...

Its active on some slack channel from what I've seen

[Pickleninja]

BTW I'm pretty sure that wallet 0 is actually a bot...

Its active on some slack channel from what I've seen

Either way you look at it, someone doesnt accumulate that many coins just to dump them at this level.

-pickle

[ik_do]

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so they're "invested" in it rather than trying to short it

[nolispui]

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so they're "invested" in it rather than trying to short it

uh? that's just the slack game. I have personally not bought any VTR although I am monitoring it,

[j4se]

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from cryptocopia

so they're "invested" in it rather than trying to short it

Umm thats not real BTC - that's a weekly investment game where you get allocated 100 BTC in play money to long/short/invest in any cryptocurrency.

[ik_do]

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Invested in ETC Bankroll: :btc: *129.61906618 BTC*- `S`hadowplay
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Invested in VTR Bankroll: :btc: *102.08187544 BTC*- `N`olispui
Invested in SDC Bankroll: :btc: *96.46314100 BTC*- `S`lugmandrew
Shorting ETH Bankroll: :btc: *87.70267914 BTC*- `C`urrentvalue

from cryptocopia

so they're "invested" in it rather than trying to short it

Umm thats not real BTC - that's a weekly investment game where you get allocated 100 BTC in play money to long/short/invest in any cryptocurrency.

Oh had no idea. Apologies.

[Pickleninja]

So many angry people on this thread attacking anyone who asks some questions. You know when trying to build a community you should welcome questions, comments and even competition.

From what I've been reading, negative comments seem to be directed at people posting FUD, which seems pretty commonplace amongst all threads.

Why can't people just wait for the fork?

We'll all get a chance to see if VTR was a good investment after the fork.

Personally I think VTR is a good investment. I could be wrong. I've been wrong in the past. But stomping your feet and hollering that it's a bad investment with no proof is ridiculous.

-Pickle

[dickwhite]

You are welcome to your opinion and your own take on current events. We encourage all potential investors to do their research before making any decisions regarding our project.


We believe in the freedom of information and that traditional media has done the public a disservice in refusing to update their business model and evolve to reflect changing technology. Services such as Netflix and Hulu are a great step forward but are absolutely unusable in many areas of the world due to ridiculous licensing issues. Compare the selection of netflix inside the US to other areas of the world and the differences are astounding. This is before even taking into account the different economic conditions between countries.

Our site and our business model does not break any copyright laws in our country and while certain areas of the world may choose to argue that point, we are not hosting anything which is copyright but rather links that allow users to retrieve information on the content they are looking for. We have the ability to address the 2 biggest issues with traditional torrent sites. Number one, it simplifies the process requiring no third party software, extensions or custom browser addons. Number two, you do not have to dig through dozens or hundreds of results to find what you are looking for or require any special knowledge to ensure you are not exposed to malicious content.  We also solve the biggest issue with traditional streaming sites in that content linked from our website is decentralized and has no single point of failure.


Whatever the legal status of torrents in your area and whatever your moral stance on copyright law and traditional media is, it is undeniable that what our project looks to provide holds not only promise, but monetary value for investors. I would strongly encourage testing our second demo site as it goes live this weekend and doing research on similar services. Anyone who regularly uses stream or torrent sites will be able to see at a glance the power of what we are doing with this project.

I dont know why your attacking me!

I took a look a look at this project and I'll share a few concerns.
I couldn't find a white paper, so that is a red flag for me. I see a lot of content out there now encoded with H.265 / MPEG-4 HEVC codec. No browser yet supports it, so that is at least an unknown.
The test site does look interesting in its ease of use. Unless you make acquiring vids currency equally easy, I don't think you'll see much uptake from non-technical users.
This reminds me of another project with similar goals: Popcorn Time. It was a really nice program and free to use, but was abandoned by original devs because of pressure from the MPAA.
Regardless of ideology, the legality of Purevids and other bittorrent clients/trackers/linkers will always be in question and under attack by industry and law enforcement agencies. It seems the Purevids solution is to propagate the centralized data over many sites where legality is questionable, a la the Pirate Bay. They will likely experience the same court challenges and ISP blocking, if not actions against the people and organization itself, continuous frustrations for users. I don't think this is a sustainable model or very attractive to investors. Also, limiting it to streaming vids and not other content seems odd and a missed opportunity.

Regardless, I wish them luck but won't be investing.

[ik_do]

You are welcome to your opinion and your own take on current events. We encourage all potential investors to do their research before making any decisions regarding our project.


We believe in the freedom of information and that traditional media has done the public a disservice in refusing to update their business model and evolve to reflect changing technology. Services such as Netflix and Hulu are a great step forward but are absolutely unusable in many areas of the world due to ridiculous licensing issues. Compare the selection of netflix inside the US to other areas of the world and the differences are astounding. This is before even taking into account the different economic conditions between countries.

Our site and our business model does not break any copyright laws in our country and while certain areas of the world may choose to argue that point, we are not hosting anything which is copyright but rather links that allow users to retrieve information on the content they are looking for. We have the ability to address the 2 biggest issues with traditional torrent sites. Number one, it simplifies the process requiring no third party software, extensions or custom browser addons. Number two, you do not have to dig through dozens or hundreds of results to find what you are looking for or require any special knowledge to ensure you are not exposed to malicious content.  We also solve the biggest issue with traditional streaming sites in that content linked from our website is decentralized and has no single point of failure.


Whatever the legal status of torrents in your area and whatever your moral stance on copyright law and traditional media is, it is undeniable that what our project looks to provide holds not only promise, but monetary value for investors. I would strongly encourage testing our second demo site as it goes live this weekend and doing research on similar services. Anyone who regularly uses stream or torrent sites will be able to see at a glance the power of what we are doing with this project.

I dont know why your attacking me!

I took a look a look at this project and I'll share a few concerns.
I couldn't find a white paper, so that is a red flag for me. I see a lot of content out there now encoded with H.265 / MPEG-4 HEVC codec. No browser yet supports it, so that is at least an unknown.
The test site does look interesting in its ease of use. Unless you make acquiring vids currency equally easy, I don't think you'll see much uptake from non-technical users.
This reminds me of another project with similar goals: Popcorn Time. It was a really nice program and free to use, but was abandoned by original devs because of pressure from the MPAA.
Regardless of ideology, the legality of Purevids and other bittorrent clients/trackers/linkers will always be in question and under attack by industry and law enforcement agencies. It seems the Purevids solution is to propagate the centralized data over many sites where legality is questionable, a la the Pirate Bay. They will likely experience the same court challenges and ISP blocking, if not actions against the people and organization itself, continuous frustrations for users. I don't think this is a sustainable model or very attractive to investors. Also, limiting it to streaming vids and not other content seems odd and a missed opportunity.

Regardless, I wish them luck but won't be investing.

Again to reiterate a "competing" project that only offers video streaming as a service is not a competitor to vTorrent.

vTorrent (as I'm sure most people are aware) aims to work with the preexisting BitTorrent ecosystem--it isn't reinventing the wheel. It also isn't limited to video or audio--it could be linux distributables, word documents, PDF files, software, ultra HD video, archival files, historical arcade ROMs and such. So long as its a file that can be accessed by a computer, then it can be shared via BitTorrent.

For instance, The Internet Archive offers over 1 million torrents which provide P2P access to historical files. Providing some form of incentive for users to share these files would be absolutely revolutionary.

A service which only caters to streaming isn't at all similar to BitTorrent (or by extension vTorrent).

In my personal opinion, this is very much an apple and oranges comparison. I mean feel free to keep up the comparisons--but vTorrent vs some streaming crypto project is a ridiculous comparison.

[synthgauge]

I cant say Im impressed by the progress done here, but recent updates, despite being vague ridiculous rubbish, suggest buyers havent lost faith in this coin and possibly reckon it will recover in the near future.

[ik_do]

I cant say Im impressed by the progress done here, but recent updates, despite being vague ridiculous rubbish, suggest buyers havent lost faith in this coin and possibly reckon it will recover in the near future.

Unlike the vast majority of projects in this space I'd say investors are looking at the potential of linking into a strong project from which bitcoin itself was based (bittorrent)

I've seen lots of projects in this arena but none really hold the promise that this project potentially does which is why it's so interesting...

If nothing else for now it's also the world's first crypto project to feature 2fa--that alone should speak volumes about what could possibly be.

[j4se]

I cant say Im impressed by the progress done here, but recent updates, despite being vague ridiculous rubbish, suggest buyers havent lost faith in this coin and possibly reckon it will recover in the near future.

vTorrent has one of the best HD wallets for any coin and it's only the start of things to come. 2FA in a wallet is also unheard of when it should really be a standard feature in every wallet.
The foundations are indeed being laid as you can see in the current version of the wallet and this could well end up as one of the most important projects within the crypto ecosystem.