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June 18, 2016, 02:17:49 PM |
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How does " backed by real physical asset - own mined raw amber" work?
Does that mean, if i lose everything (say my shares are worthless and company is dead) i don´t have to worry much because it´s backed by raw amber ?
Sorry for that stupid question, just curious how that "backed by raw amber" really works?
Does the company send me the cash then for the amber sale or does it send me amber?
Or is it all just a marketing gimmick and my shares/coins are backed by.......nothing at all?
They pay you a part of their profit in cash/btc. You mean they should pay... So if the company is bankcrupt, not a single cent left, i send them all my TX from all my coins i ever bought across the exchanges and they send me the cash/btc? Totally missed that part, can you show me where it´s written pls. And how much is the stash of amber we own ? ^^ No that money back was only for coins directly bought from AmberTrade not the exchanges. A backcrupt company will not send u a penny I'm not sure how u think that would work bankcrupt generally means they are out of money. The dev has not made any statements of insolvency so it does not apply at this time. Also they just got new owners. Its very unlikely that the new would be bankcrupt already at the takeover. At most likely also illegal if it were the case. That doesnt mean that the company makes a profit though and no profit = no dividends. But they have made a profit every quarter so far even if it have sometimes been smaller than the investors would like it to be.
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Kazadar
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June 18, 2016, 02:22:20 PM |
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How does " backed by real physical asset - own mined raw amber" work?
Does that mean, if i lose everything (say my shares are worthless and company is dead) i don´t have to worry much because it´s backed by raw amber ?
Sorry for that stupid question, just curious how that "backed by raw amber" really works?
Does the company send me the cash then for the amber sale or does it send me amber?
Or is it all just a marketing gimmick and my shares/coins are backed by.......nothing at all?
They pay you a part of their profit in cash/btc. You mean they should pay... So if the company is bankcrupt, not a single cent left, i send them all my TX from all my coins i ever bought across the exchanges and they send me the cash/btc? Totally missed that part, can you show me where it´s written pls. And how much is the stash of amber we own ? ^^ No that money back was only for coins directly bought from AmberTrade not the exchanges. A backcrupt company will not send u a penny I'm not sure how u think that would work bankcrupt generally means they are out of money. The dev has not made any statements of insolvency so it does not apply at this time. I read that AmberCoin is backed by Amber-Trade business operations, dealing with amber. And literally backed by raw amber, as Amber-Trade really deals with it and has a real stock. "The 1-st crypto backed by raw AMBER - BUY, HOLD and GET DIVIDENDS in BTC or USD" https://c-cex.com/?p=amber-btc"AmberCoin is the 1-st cryptoshare in the world where each AmberCoin is Amber Trade LTD share engaged in amber development, processing and distributive trade." http://amber-trade.com/about/"Hereby AmberCoin is the first coin that is backed by a real asset which the Amber Trade LTD’s production and trade operations are." http://amber-trade.com/ambercoin/There is always raw amber in stock, but is it worth holding, to back AmberCoin? May be in the beginning relaying to business process gives more dividends. BUT IF there is significant stock of raw amber, why not audit it every month, some cheap-cost internal audit, publish results and so pump the coin to it's real price? And if Company sells raw amber or makes products from it, stock becomes smaller, AmberCoin price goes down, BUT dividends go up ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Win-win to us too ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Amber coins are shares in the company not in their stock. As for the value of the coin they did mention a possible IPO in the takeover. If that happens then we will see what the auditors think the company is worth.
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Mig-23
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June 18, 2016, 08:55:22 PM |
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@Dev,
please help the price at the market. 1k sat right now and it will going down under 1k
price now in danger,its really sad to see,we are really lost the trust from crypto communities
turn to the online exchange for all investor who buy directly from the company
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devega
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June 19, 2016, 12:33:48 AM |
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@Dev,
please help the price at the market. 1k sat right now and it will going down under 1k
price now in danger,its really sad to see,we are really lost the trust from crypto communities
turn to the online exchange for all investor who buy directly from the company
I don't think anybody from the AmberCoin's team cares...
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ozik67
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June 19, 2016, 08:20:29 AM |
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I bought some ambercoin directly from the company. Can I get my money back for coins?
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June 19, 2016, 08:42:34 AM |
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Current market price is very far from real. I think we will see this kind of price during some short period of time.
Obviously there was no moment to step into company better than now. But if you have doubts then wait for a month or so to make sure.
Any talks about "Company has no money" have no ground at all.
P.S. redirecting offline buyers to the market is going to be implemented shortly.
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ozik67
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June 19, 2016, 09:00:25 AM |
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Current market price is very far from real. I think we will see this kind of price during some short period of time.
Obviously there was no moment to step into company better than now. But if you have doubts then wait for a month or so to make sure.
Any talks about "Company has no money" have no ground at all.
P.S. redirecting offline buyers to the market is going to be implemented shortly.
Thanks for hope!
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fitraok09
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June 19, 2016, 01:49:53 PM |
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Current market price is very far from real. I think we will see this kind of price during some short period of time.
Obviously there was no moment to step into company better than now. But if you have doubts then wait for a month or so to make sure.
Any talks about "Company has no money" have no ground at all.
P.S. redirecting offline buyers to the market is going to be implemented shortly.
I think, a price cheap of amber due bitcoin price was rise. so no problem with it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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devega
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June 19, 2016, 11:31:49 PM |
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Current market price is very far from real. I think we will see this kind of price during some short period of time.
Obviously there was no moment to step into company better than now. But if you have doubts then wait for a month or so to make sure.
Any talks about "Company has no money" have no ground at all.
P.S. redirecting offline buyers to the market is going to be implemented shortly.
I think, a price cheap of amber due bitcoin price was rise. so no problem with it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yeah, thats why is 1000 sat...
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sluppy
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June 20, 2016, 09:06:50 AM |
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Current market price is very far from real. I think we will see this kind of price during some short period of time.
Obviously there was no moment to step into company better than now. But if you have doubts then wait for a month or so to make sure.
Any talks about "Company has no money" have no ground at all.
P.S. redirecting offline buyers to the market is going to be implemented shortly.
I think, a price cheap of amber due bitcoin price was rise. so no problem with it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yeah, thats why is 1000 sat... VS the 33000 sat the company was selling at, you cant blame all of that on BTC my friend.
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Cryptoshaft
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June 20, 2016, 04:01:11 PM |
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so, can i just sell all of my amber to this "AMBER company" (or should i call it imaginary "AMBER") and get back my 1.46 BTC ? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.prntscr.com%2Fimage%2Fba34338e138e4fb889effe1c8095ef3c.png&t=665&c=atIceSMpTZTaCg)
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Kazadar
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June 20, 2016, 07:05:03 PM |
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so, can i just sell all of my amber to this "AMBER company" (or should i call it imaginary "AMBER") and get back my 1.46 BTC ? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.prntscr.com%2Fimage%2Fba34338e138e4fb889effe1c8095ef3c.png&t=665&c=atIceSMpTZTaCg) No that is not possible anymore as far as I can tell. It was possible untill March.
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devega
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June 20, 2016, 07:21:54 PM |
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so, can i just sell all of my amber to this "AMBER company" (or should i call it imaginary "AMBER") and get back my 1.46 BTC ? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.prntscr.com%2Fimage%2Fba34338e138e4fb889effe1c8095ef3c.png&t=665&c=atIceSMpTZTaCg) No that is not possible anymore as far as I can tell. It was possible untill March. If so, that means that word of AmberTrade is worth nothing. Investment protection were officially promised and now it is cancelled? Where is investor's trust? It must be a misunderstanding.
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Kazadar
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June 20, 2016, 10:45:39 PM |
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so, can i just sell all of my amber to this "AMBER company" (or should i call it imaginary "AMBER") and get back my 1.46 BTC ? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.prntscr.com%2Fimage%2Fba34338e138e4fb889effe1c8095ef3c.png&t=665&c=atIceSMpTZTaCg) No that is not possible anymore as far as I can tell. It was possible untill March. If so, that means that word of AmberTrade is worth nothing. Investment protection were officially promised and now it is cancelled? Where is investor's trust? It must be a misunderstanding. Here is the quote from the AmberCoinDev What`s about INVESTMENT PROTECTION PROGRAM? Still valid?
It was valid until March 2016. This program was supposed to be a protection for early investors during the first year of company existence. During this first year it was used less than 5 times by company's shareholders. So this program has completed its mission. I know that now the new Dividends Policy is being developed by the company. Most likely it will be published right after Q1/Q2 dividends payouts in the end of July. There should be all information. I personally did never see the terms for for the investestment protection program, so I cant comment on what was or wasnt promised.
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June 20, 2016, 11:29:26 PM |
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So any word on when Q1 2016 and Q2 2016 dividend payments will be made?
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Cryptoshaft
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June 21, 2016, 01:24:25 AM |
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so, can i just sell all of my amber to this "AMBER company" (or should i call it imaginary "AMBER") and get back my 1.46 BTC ? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.prntscr.com%2Fimage%2Fba34338e138e4fb889effe1c8095ef3c.png&t=665&c=atIceSMpTZTaCg) No that is not possible anymore as far as I can tell. It was possible untill March. If so, that means that word of AmberTrade is worth nothing. Investment protection were officially promised and now it is cancelled? Where is investor's trust? It must be a misunderstanding. Here is the quote from the AmberCoinDev What`s about INVESTMENT PROTECTION PROGRAM? Still valid?
It was valid until March 2016. This program was supposed to be a protection for early investors during the first year of company existence. During this first year it was used less than 5 times by company's shareholders. So this program has completed its mission. I know that now the new Dividends Policy is being developed by the company. Most likely it will be published right after Q1/Q2 dividends payouts in the end of July. There should be all information. I personally did never see the terms for for the investestment protection program, so I cant comment on what was or wasnt promised. well, i've never seen this too. 1 thing i just realized is when the first time i contacted amber team and decided to be a shareholder, they never give me information or prompt me about the terms and conditions which is very suspicious imo. i just realized about it because i've just learned after i joined several programs similar to this which always prompt me to re-read T&C at least twice.
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Cryptoshaft
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June 21, 2016, 11:42:39 AM |
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looks like they're waiting for the rise of bitcoin price, so they can only pay a little amount of bitcoin. what a sly company.
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June 21, 2016, 02:08:31 PM |
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looks like they're waiting for the rise of bitcoin price, so they can only pay a little amount of bitcoin. what a sly company. We talking about the same bitcoin that has dropped $100 the last 24 hours?
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sluppy
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June 21, 2016, 05:36:21 PM |
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looks like they're waiting for the rise of bitcoin price, so they can only pay a little amount of bitcoin. what a sly company. We talking about the same bitcoin that has dropped $100 the last 24 hours? Its still up a lot but I don't think their that clever to have taken the halving into account when paying dividends. Someone just bought a huge chunk on the exchange today close to 50k and a decent buy wall left over.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke -- May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.George Carlin We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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