kjj
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August 06, 2013, 09:07:44 PM |
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Only in bitcoin land would a 30% yield be considered low.
At a flat 30% yield, not compounded, it will take 172 weeks to break even. How confident are you that they will be around in 3+ years? How confident are you that they can maintain that yield? You have to factor in the purchase AND sale price. Only if you aren't the one holding it when it all goes to shit. Bitcoin securities are always a game of hot potato. None of them have a 3 year track record yet. |
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Lohoris
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August 06, 2013, 09:09:04 PM |
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No one offers better than 30% APR and certainly not with that consistency.
However at 10-20% there are bonds and many mining operations that are relatively safe. So I agree on the part that it would not go below 20% APR.
What are those bonds in the 10-20% range? Conlenders has 26.05 APR IIRC, for instance. just-dice has a very high yield too, but with quite a high variance though. Obviously 30% APR can be considered low only in bitcoin land, but... we are in bitcoin land. And yes, "low" in this context obviously means that it is a risky asset, as kjj pointed out. I meant the same thing, but apparently people didn't understand me. Happens. |
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August 06, 2013, 09:12:40 PM |
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No one offers better than 30% APR and certainly not with that consistency.
However at 10-20% there are bonds and many mining operations that are relatively safe. So I agree on the part that it would not go below 20% APR.
What are those bonds in the 10-20% range? Conlenders has 26.05 APR IIRC, for instance. just-dice has a very high yield too, but with quite a high variance though. Obviously 30% APR can be considered low only in bitcoin land, but... we are in bitcoin land. And yes, "low" in this context obviously means that it is a risky asset, as kjj pointed out. I meant the same thing, but apparently people didn't understand me. Happens. I thought just-dice has been underwater? |
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August 06, 2013, 09:21:08 PM |
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I thought just-dice has been underwater?
They have been, but they're back up again. Talk about high variance. |
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August 07, 2013, 10:08:02 AM |
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I'm trying to find where friedcat talks about the generation 2 ASIC plans. Does anyone have a handy link to the details (if there are any)?
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Maciek
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August 07, 2013, 10:57:53 AM |
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Buyer question: Where do I buy - ASICMINER Block Erupter Blade ?I need it shipped to Poland, European Union  |
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Dexter770221
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August 07, 2013, 11:06:20 AM |
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Tutaj oficjalny topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204030.400Ale zdaje sie ze ostatnio jest "out of stock". Sprobuj w sekcji Auctions. Moze ktos sprzedaje swoje. |
Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors.
Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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August 07, 2013, 01:15:19 PM |
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Please ReadIt's that time again! Time for a new small shareholder poll: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/15Ws1XzJeynK_vsKiQ9NaufQfLZOSKsRfsSgqMLTdIRsAs with the previous polls, we will leave the poll open for about a week. Once people have had sufficient time to vote, we will compile the results and post them here. ThickAsThieves will then submit the top three questions to Friedcat with the hopes that he will answer them. If you have any questions regarding this poll, please contact ThickAsThieves or myself. If you have a question that you would like included in future polls, please let us know that as well. Thanks!
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aahzmundus
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August 07, 2013, 02:36:54 PM |
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There is a strange lack of dividend estimation going on...
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SmiGueL
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August 07, 2013, 02:42:25 PM |
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There is a strange lack of dividend estimation going on...
0.012 on mining & 0.011 on sales. |
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canth
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August 07, 2013, 02:43:41 PM |
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There is a strange lack of dividend estimation going on...
0.012 on mining & 0.0105 on sales. No need to speculate - SmiGueL has spoken. |
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velacreations
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August 07, 2013, 02:51:21 PM |
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There is a strange lack of dividend estimation going on...
0.012 on mining & 0.011 on sales. I'm predicting .023, as well. |
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August 07, 2013, 03:03:20 PM |
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It must surely be time from some update from pre-grilled cat. There is a lot of pent-up anticipation. With the new IPO flurry all in the news, perhaps baked cat is waiting for the dust to settle for a blockbuster announcement. Timing is everything.
My guess: 0.021
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August 07, 2013, 03:14:49 PM |
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There is a strange lack of dividend estimation going on...
0.012 on mining & 0.0105 on sales. No need to speculate - SmiGueL has spoken. seems like it |
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aahzmundus
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August 07, 2013, 03:29:26 PM |
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It must surely be time from some update from pre-grilled cat. There is a lot of pent-up anticipation. With the new IPO flurry all in the news, perhaps baked cat is waiting for the dust to settle for a blockbuster announcement. Timing is everything.
My guess: 0.021
Most distributors seem to have gotten the news that there will be a big re-stock of miners on the 10th. I myself ordered one that apparently will be included in this re-stocking of distributors. I would hope we get some sort of news on how big this batch is, and if it includes new hardware offerings. I expect news this week, and epic divs (clearing several weeks of back orders) next week |
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August 07, 2013, 03:33:51 PM |
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It must surely be time from some update from pre-grilled cat. There is a lot of pent-up anticipation. With the new IPO flurry all in the news, perhaps baked cat is waiting for the dust to settle for a blockbuster announcement. Timing is everything.
My guess: 0.021
Most distributors seem to have gotten the news that there will be a big re-stock of miners on the 10th. I myself ordered one that apparently will be included in this re-stocking of distributors. I would hope we get some sort of news on how big this batch is, and if it includes new hardware offerings. I expect news this week, and epic divs (clearing several weeks of back orders) next week Are you talking about re-stocking of the blades? or USB? |
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aahzmundus
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August 07, 2013, 03:34:34 PM |
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I only know about USB's, but speculate on all products being re-stocked soon here.
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velacreations
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August 07, 2013, 03:40:25 PM |
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I only know about USB's, but speculate on all products being re-stocked soon here.
If blades are restocked, then dividends and share price will truly be epic. |
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conv3rsion
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August 07, 2013, 03:42:51 PM |
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0.019 is my guess
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