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1021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 09:30:42 PM
What people don't actually seem to realise is that in most cases the initial ICO pumps are very temporary and completely fake. 

They are orchestrated by Whales who use market manipulation to create a buying frenzy.  Once they have made their money the coin falls down again (usually in a few days or weeks depending on the exact situation). 

Then there is a long low lull where the price often falls in some (but not all cases) to all time lows (even below the ico price) and then very slowly returns to making a much more gradual rise as actual REAL development starts to be made and more long term holders and investors start to get interested in the coin or token.  This takes months at the very least.

In the case of WAVES it just happened to launch at an unfortunate and uncertain time for crypto.  The team couldn't have predicated recent events.  The really big whales are distracted with Ether/DAO and also the simultaneous rise (and recent fall) of Bitcoin.  The market in crypto reacts to uncertainty in very bizarre ways and nobody could really have predicted what would happen.   

The initial pump didn't materialise.  It may be unexpected but it is hardly a shock given the current crypto atmosphere. 

Unfortunately for the complaining babies (who basically live in an alternate dream like reality with lambos round the corner) and the worthless bounty scroungers who think the world owes them free money this is a problem. 

Eventually these kind of people get filtered out of any cryptocurrency any way - normally it is their fate to dump at the mid or low point of the initial pump (because moon bra) and forget about it.  Then they panic buy again when it does an x10 or x20 several months later when they see the coin getting press over the price rise.

Getting rid of these people now doesn't really do Waves any harm at all. 

They would have gone within a few days anyway and they will be back to buy at the next big top (and potentially sell again at the next subsequent dip).
1022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 09:11:59 PM
sasha has not a good pr team and he is not good as project manager ..thats all...!!!! if keeps going like this...project will be dead in a year ...!!

Or maybe he is just trying to weed out stupid people Wink
1023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 09:05:48 PM
this is bs!!! N1 if trex can add also polo back end devs can add it too!! 2 the problem is that full node code is shit ...thats why they keep it private 3 they could work with exchanges 14 days ...there was a delay ....so they had time 4 if fucking code is not ready do a fucking 30 days delay or more...

Whats done is done.  It is up to Polo (or Polio as I like to call them) now but there is no guarantee that will make the price go up.  The big developments will be things like the fiat gateway, decentralised exchange, crowd fund campaigns etc.  These will build true value and make the price rise.  If you can't wait till then you should sell for sure.  It is close to ICO price so you should be able to sell without a loss without too much trouble.
1024  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 08:59:18 PM
My first ICO MY First Loose ..
got an offer before hit rex .00099 per 1 wave for 2k investment . i refused to complete the offer seeing that 1 wave will gain more than that but now i am still holding but i afraid the price will decline to .00025 soon  .

You better sell then and sell fast.
1025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 08:12:47 PM
Any news about polo?

No.  Follow them on twitter if you are really keen to know when they add.
1026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 08:07:28 PM
I have a feeling Waves gonna pump this week  Smiley

Ideally, I would like to see a slow and stead rise. That works for my investment strategy.

Just imagine once the fiat gateway is launched.  Will be a while but that will help decouple the price from Bitcoin and help new money to flow in which is what was happening with Ether (due to the direct dollar pairings) before the DAO hack.  Then add to that the prospect of a decentralised exchange - nobody I know of has combined the two yet.
1027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 07:58:03 PM
What's the inflation rate?

0% There are 100 million coins and that is fixed.
1028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 07:57:31 PM
Are there any Cliff Notes from Sasha's Interview with Stakepool 3 hours ago?

All I can find is something about VISA or VISA CARD.

Not yet but I'm sure we will get the details soon.
1029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 07:56:56 PM
Since everyone is in a fun mood.  I just had to share this hilarious photo in this tweet:

https://twitter.com/DanDarkPill/status/745283009977417728
1030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 07:50:47 PM
Can someone explain to me why I have a meager 25 waves on my day-1 ICO investment of 0.099 BTC?

So far as I can tell, the ICO recieved about 30,000 BTC for the 85 million available waves..

85,000,000 / 30,000 would be (not factoring for bonuses) 2833.33 waves per BTC, and I sent ~0.1 BTC, which should be ~283 Waves (again, not factoring for my 20% bonuses / bonus impact on total wave distribution).

So why did I only get 25 waves in my ICO account?? Just doesn't add up.. The market cap of Waves is greater than the ICO Investments, but my total waves are worth less than 10% of the BTC I contributed...?

From ICO Dashboard:
Created   2016-04-12 15:00:26
Balance   25.00000000 Waves

RELATED PAYMENTS
Payment will be added after 2 confirmations

Type   Amount   Txid   Created   Confirmations
Waves    25.00000000        2016-06-07 20:02:29    

Blockchain transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/82d48ef85110ad4dabff7b78563bc17b6a68f44083667ba06bacbaa484074f72


So no one else had issues with bogus calculations for their ICO Waves balance or has any input on this?

Nobody else has reported it.  Might be too late now but try contacting the team on slack tomorrow and you will probably get more luck.
1031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 07:49:01 PM
Where is the Windows 95 wallet  Huh
What about windows 3.1

They have a command line wallet, so it's good with DOS 5.1.

But I tried to run it on Amiga and it doesn't work.

Amiga ! now you are talking, a true classic Smiley
Don't forget 86-DOS

Lol.  Yes Amiga and IBM PC from 1986 have gone now.  Now I only have ENIAC and Enigma computer from 1945 - how do you I get it to work on these? Please tell me or it is a scam. Huh Huh Huh Huh

how do I get it to work on my abacus?? plz help!!!!111

I think you need to upgrade to Antikythera mechanism.  Works better on that.
1032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 07:37:04 PM
when is price expected to go up?  Grin

Tomorrow at 18.35
1033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 07:32:49 PM
Where is the Windows 95 wallet  Huh
What about windows 3.1

They have a command line wallet, so it's good with DOS 5.1.

But I tried to run it on Amiga and it doesn't work.

Amiga ! now you are talking, a true classic Smiley
Don't forget 86-DOS

Lol.  Yes Amiga and IBM PC from 1986 have gone now.  Now I only have ENIAC and Enigma computer from 1945 - how do you I get it to work on these? Please tell me or it is a scam. Huh Huh Huh Huh
1034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 07:06:01 PM
Where is the Windows 95 wallet  Huh
What about windows 3.1

They have a command line wallet, so it's good with DOS 5.1.

But I tried to run it on Amiga and it doesn't work.
1035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 06:03:20 PM
Sell ALL your waves quickly it is never going to up and only down from here. SCAMcoin!! sell sell sell! thankgod i was able to sell my coins for 38k satoshi but if I still had any left I'd be happy to even get 20k for them.

Waves is scam and never recovering. Don't think about it, you're losing time before it plunges and loses more value. Those who wait will LOSE. I repeat again: SELL!!!

Yes don't think about it as you clearly didn't. LOL.

I hope you realize my post was satire mocking everybody crying about the price.

It's so hard to tell.  Seemed pretty authentic so it was maybe too good.
1036  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 05:59:07 PM
Where is the Windows 95 wallet  Huh
1037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 05:34:19 PM
I really dont get it .... on trex it says that i need 2 confirmations for bitcoin .... on blockchain i already have 4 confirmation but my btc are still in pending deposit ....

Bitcoin is slow.
1038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 05:30:39 PM
Where is the pump? I was expecting the pump to be underway now. What's taking so long?

It has to be shipped from China.
1039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 05:19:08 PM
Sell ALL your waves quickly it is never going to up and only down from here. SCAMcoin!! sell sell sell! thankgod i was able to sell my coins for 38k satoshi but if I still had any left I'd be happy to even get 20k for them.

Waves is scam and never recovering. Don't think about it, you're losing time before it plunges and loses more value. Those who wait will LOSE. I repeat again: SELL!!!

Yes don't think about it as you clearly didn't. LOL.
1040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: June 21, 2016, 05:18:04 PM
Never sell on red... Especially coins

Always sell on red and buy on green.  The best way to make a small fortune is to start with a large one.
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