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1061  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - SPECIAL LIMITED OFFER FEBRUARY 9 – FEBRUARY 28, 2017 on: February 20, 2017, 09:32:05 PM
i want this margin trading feature added so bad Smiley


Extra for you I post it again ;-)  ...and it really should be soon!


Coming soon:

1062  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - SPECIAL LIMITED OFFER FEBRUARY 9 – FEBRUARY 28, 2017 on: February 20, 2017, 07:03:37 PM
In about 1 hour: Lykke co-founder Sergey Ivliev will talk about #lykkeforward and other company news

Live here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_POa3SfKqU


And please retweet: https://twitter.com/LykkeCity/status/833725750385709056


The interview with Sergey will start in seconds... now.
1063  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Lykke - semi-dezentraler Marktplatz auf der Blockchain on: February 20, 2017, 05:55:52 PM
In etwa 1 Stunde: Lykke co-founder Sergey Ivliev über #lykkeforward und weitere Neuigkeiten Lykke betreffend

Live hier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_POa3SfKqU
1064  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - SPECIAL LIMITED OFFER FEBRUARY 9 – FEBRUARY 28, 2017 on: February 20, 2017, 05:53:02 PM
In about 1 hour: Lykke co-founder Sergey Ivliev will talk about #lykkeforward and other company news

Live here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_POa3SfKqU


And please retweet: https://twitter.com/LykkeCity/status/833725750385709056
1065  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HEAT: 3.0 crypto*multisig fiat*a2a hft*1000tps*DSA*PoS+PoP*e2ee chat* on: February 19, 2017, 06:14:45 AM
The previous links don't lead to anything but the immediate previous posts of the psychotic person harassing this thread. That issue will soon be remedied with the moderated thread.
negative patterns, like a lack of accuracy or clear signs of dishonesty or whatever, is usually a clear sign to stay away.
Within any of the remaining time we have here for the troll debate I wonder, tempus, what negative patterns you implicate, coming in from 3 months of silence after expressing criticism that didn't receive any foothold.

Is there a chance you'll change your stance when the HEAT token value has doubled from the ICO? If not, will you change it when the token value has quadrupled?

Have you earned your legendary member status by quoting irrelevant posts from half a year ago to support troll campaigns of various clearly psychotic members of the society?



To answer your question about the price first: Prices are not necessarily indicators. I mean, it's much easier to get the price of an illiquid market up than a project done, right? That is done every day on multiple exchanges even with dead projects.


About StewieB: His attitude may be questionable, but that doesn't change the fact that he has some valid points.


He asked this:

(...)
Where is the promised buy wall (...)

You replied with:

(...)
There exists no such promise and it's detrimental for everyone to twist what has been said. (...)


He confronted you with this:

(...)  I can now make a promise: We will be using some ICO funds for price level support (in some form of buy walls, in a way that has the highest impact). I can't recall making explicit promises earlier. Personally I'm proud to have got a habit of keeping them whenever possible, so if there's any other impression please point out the reference and I'll humbly amend such a mistake.



Back in June, when you and I had our "fight-conversations" you also tried to mislead people and in fact you lied. Now you say I would quote irrelevant posts, but exactly that is part of the pattern and you've already showed it back then. And it's really no surprise for me how this project turned out since then. I also told you this:


  (...)
 Money won't be a compensation for the pressure you will earn if you go on with that. Disappointed Investors are much worse than I am here.  (...)

That is your problem with guys like StewieB. I mean, he is not the usual troll or Fudster. He is one of your Investors. And as far as I know the above is not the only valid point he confronted you with. Most likely it would be possible to make a list. My advice to him would be to keep things on topic, without big letters and all the shit-talk. It's very entertaining but the paradox-part is: It makes it easier for you to ignore it or to claim it's trolling or "agenda".

And of course you can tell people that my latest criticism "didn't receive any foothold" - but you already plan your next funding round. So let's see if I can quote myself again in some months. Right now I don't even believe that there will be another funding round. And if yes, I would be very surprised if people would send you much money.

By the way, what I really don't understand is: Why didn't you hire Developers? Why didn't you hire somebody to do the communication and for marketing etc.? I mean, there is nothing that would indicate that you invested the ICO-money really into and for the best of this project. Even more surprising it is that you already plan another funding round.

HEy it is StewieG!  

Uppps... my fault! But I'm sure, you'll survive and forgive my little mistake, StewieBBB....äääähhGGGGGGGG!!!! Cheesy

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And yes they plan to do the IPO, I was surprised as well. That is why they desperately try to get rid of this thread! xD

And no, nobody will participate in this bullshit! I already asked their loyalist dicksuckers in the slack and not even they want to participate in it!

Oh and they claim they couldn't find any devs. This is plausible as nobody would want to work with this retards. I mean you would burn your reputation immediately. But it is also plausible that they are just trying to hold as much money for themselves. I mean it is obvious that this project is doomed, why invest in it? They avoided every situation in which they would spend some of the funds, they even claim they have invested 200k so far. Even said they will provide an expense sheet. But they said a lot of things and delivered nothing and the expense sheet is not any different. Nobody knows where this money went and they refuse to tell us. Nono these monkeys will just pay themselves a nice salary every month until the funds are gone.


I don't believe that there will be a second round. It's predictable what questions they would have to answer and how that would turn out. Or with other words: What they clearly don't need is more attention on this.
Yeah okay I forgive you, hope it doesn't happen again... Roll Eyes   

I would promise it if you wouldn't be so vitriol accusing everyone to break promises who broke promises! Cheesy


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Dude, they really plan to do this! They really think they can pull off another funding round scam! I know I know, I was shocked as well. I thought they can not be serious about that! But hey, concerning heat, I have believed about a lot of things to be different! Trust me, they really think they can pull this off! And no matter what the result will be, they will sell it to people as a success! They claim their launch was a success! Picture this! This fuck forks multiple times a day, you had to download and install the blockchain manually everytime it happend. By now they decided to mine alone and leave others out due to the forking issue! The A2A is broken, man I can not even send my coins! Nothing works! REALLY NOTHING! I AM TOTALLY HONEST HERE, NOTHING WORKS! And they claim it was a successfull launch! And this retard can not see what he is doing wrong! Dude, I have no words for that! There are no words for that!

(...)

We will see who of us will be right. Right now it's pretty much unbelievable for me that they will try to get more money.

And just btw: If I understand their plan for the second funding correctly it is an economical disaster, even if this project would be good so far. Rational participants of the previous ICO would send them Heat-token to get shares, since shares are usually more valuable than the token. To really get money they would have to sell those tokens and that would bring pressure on the price. And that could and would be anticipated and the token-price would go down even before the next IPO.

And just that would be enough that rational potential Investors who are not already invested in tokens would stay away, because they (Heat-team) connect the value of the shares to the price of the tokens (x amount of token = 1 share).

It's not easy to explain in a few words, but it's a crazy economical circle that wouldn't even benefit THEM! They won't be able to sell, because there won't be enough buy-support and they won't get real money because it's not possible that the value of the shares would rise if the token gets dumped. And it's not possible that the token stays above ...and so on....down-circle....



1066  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HEAT: 3.0 crypto*multisig fiat*a2a hft*1000tps*DSA*PoS+PoP*e2ee chat* on: February 19, 2017, 05:35:07 AM
The previous links don't lead to anything but the immediate previous posts of the psychotic person harassing this thread. That issue will soon be remedied with the moderated thread.
negative patterns, like a lack of accuracy or clear signs of dishonesty or whatever, is usually a clear sign to stay away.
Within any of the remaining time we have here for the troll debate I wonder, tempus, what negative patterns you implicate, coming in from 3 months of silence after expressing criticism that didn't receive any foothold.

Is there a chance you'll change your stance when the HEAT token value has doubled from the ICO? If not, will you change it when the token value has quadrupled?

Have you earned your legendary member status by quoting irrelevant posts from half a year ago to support troll campaigns of various clearly psychotic members of the society?



To answer your question about the price first: Prices are not necessarily indicators. I mean, it's much easier to get the price of an illiquid market up than a project done, right? That is done every day on multiple exchanges even with dead projects.


About StewieB: His attitude may be questionable, but that doesn't change the fact that he has some valid points.


He asked this:

(...)
Where is the promised buy wall (...)

You replied with:

(...)
There exists no such promise and it's detrimental for everyone to twist what has been said. (...)


He confronted you with this:

(...)  I can now make a promise: We will be using some ICO funds for price level support (in some form of buy walls, in a way that has the highest impact). I can't recall making explicit promises earlier. Personally I'm proud to have got a habit of keeping them whenever possible, so if there's any other impression please point out the reference and I'll humbly amend such a mistake.



Back in June, when you and I had our "fight-conversations" you also tried to mislead people and in fact you lied. Now you say I would quote irrelevant posts, but exactly that is part of the pattern and you've already showed it back then. And it's really no surprise for me how this project turned out since then. I also told you this:


  (...)
 Money won't be a compensation for the pressure you will earn if you go on with that. Disappointed Investors are much worse than I am here.  (...)

That is your problem with guys like StewieB. I mean, he is not the usual troll or Fudster. He is one of your Investors. And as far as I know the above is not the only valid point he confronted you with. Most likely it would be possible to make a list. My advice to him would be to keep things on topic, without big letters and all the shit-talk. It's very entertaining but the paradox-part is: It makes it easier for you to ignore it or to claim it's trolling or "agenda".

And of course you can tell people that my latest criticism "didn't receive any foothold" - but you already plan your next funding round. So let's see if I can quote myself again in some months. Right now I don't even believe that there will be another funding round. And if yes, I would be very surprised if people would send you much money.

By the way, what I really don't understand is: Why didn't you hire Developers? Why didn't you hire somebody to do the communication and for marketing etc.? I mean, there is nothing that would indicate that you invested the ICO-money really into and for the best of this project. Even more surprising it is that you already plan another funding round.

HEy it is StewieG!  

Uppps... my fault! But I'm sure, you'll survive and forgive my little mistake, StewieBBB....äääähhGGGGGGGG!!!! Cheesy

Quote
 
And yes they plan to do the IPO, I was surprised as well. That is why they desperately try to get rid of this thread! xD

And no, nobody will participate in this bullshit! I already asked their loyalist dicksuckers in the slack and not even they want to participate in it!

Oh and they claim they couldn't find any devs. This is plausible as nobody would want to work with this retards. I mean you would burn your reputation immediately. But it is also plausible that they are just trying to hold as much money for themselves. I mean it is obvious that this project is doomed, why invest in it? They avoided every situation in which they would spend some of the funds, they even claim they have invested 200k so far. Even said they will provide an expense sheet. But they said a lot of things and delivered nothing and the expense sheet is not any different. Nobody knows where this money went and they refuse to tell us. Nono these monkeys will just pay themselves a nice salary every month until the funds are gone.


I don't believe that there will be a second round. It's predictable what questions they would have to answer and how that would turn out. Or with other words: What they clearly don't need is more attention on this.
1067  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HEAT: 3.0 crypto*multisig fiat*a2a hft*1000tps*DSA*PoS+PoP*e2ee chat* on: February 19, 2017, 05:06:02 AM
The previous links don't lead to anything but the immediate previous posts of the psychotic person harassing this thread. That issue will soon be remedied with the moderated thread.
negative patterns, like a lack of accuracy or clear signs of dishonesty or whatever, is usually a clear sign to stay away.
Within any of the remaining time we have here for the troll debate I wonder, tempus, what negative patterns you implicate, coming in from 3 months of silence after expressing criticism that didn't receive any foothold.

Is there a chance you'll change your stance when the HEAT token value has doubled from the ICO? If not, will you change it when the token value has quadrupled?

Have you earned your legendary member status by quoting irrelevant posts from half a year ago to support troll campaigns of various clearly psychotic members of the society?



To answer your question about the price first: Prices are not necessarily indicators. I mean, it's much easier to get the price of an illiquid market up than a project done, right? That is done every day on multiple exchanges even with dead projects.


About StewieB: His attitude may be questionable, but that doesn't change the fact that he has some valid points.


He asked this:

(...)
Where is the promised buy wall (...)

You replied with:

(...)
There exists no such promise and it's detrimental for everyone to twist what has been said. (...)


He confronted you with this:

(...)  I can now make a promise: We will be using some ICO funds for price level support (in some form of buy walls, in a way that has the highest impact). I can't recall making explicit promises earlier. Personally I'm proud to have got a habit of keeping them whenever possible, so if there's any other impression please point out the reference and I'll humbly amend such a mistake.



Back in June, when you and I had our "fight-conversations" you also tried to mislead people and in fact you lied. Now you say I would quote irrelevant posts, but exactly that is part of the pattern and you've already showed it back then. And it's really no surprise for me how this project turned out since then. I also told you this:


  (...)
 Money won't be a compensation for the pressure you will earn if you go on with that. Disappointed Investors are much worse than I am here.  (...)

That is your problem with guys like StewieB. I mean, he is not the usual troll or Fudster. He is one of your Investors. And as far as I know the above is not the only valid point he confronted you with. Most likely it would be possible to make a list. My advice to him would be to keep things on topic, without big letters and all the shit-talk. It's very entertaining but the paradox-part is: It makes it easier for you to ignore it or to claim it's trolling or "agenda".

And of course you can tell people that my latest criticism "didn't receive any foothold" - but you already plan your next funding round. So let's see if I can quote myself again in some months. Right now I don't even believe that there will be another funding round. And if yes, I would be very surprised if people would send you much money.

By the way, what I really don't understand is: Why didn't you hire Developers? Why didn't you hire somebody to do the communication and for marketing etc.? I mean, there is nothing that would indicate that you've really invested the ICO-money into and for the best of this project. Even more surprising it is that you already plan another funding round.
1068  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN ICO] HEAT: 3.0 crypto*multisig fiat*a2a hft*1000tps*DSA*PoS+PoP*e2ee chat* on: February 19, 2017, 03:39:49 AM
 

Besides the fact that you guys did not prepare basic informations like a Whitepaper, and besides the fact that you list a lot of "headline-incentives" to buy the ICO in the Ann without detailing it out to give more information which would give more trust, it's especially the way you react on questions that makes me suspicious. I see dishonesty in that. (...)

And the best idea is nothing if the team behind wouldn't be able to deliver or if the team behind acts dishonest. And you show both. Not saying that I believe you plan a scam. But I believe that the team behind this project has a clear priority to make money first and there is a lot of risk that there will be a lot of justifications later to not deliver. Or if, that it will also show this pattern: Rushed out, not thoughtful, not accurate, lazy, without strategy, and so on. (...)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE8XJEeOpyA

We didn't listen!


Heat is a good example how revealing just communication can be. That's why I always suggest to focus on communication - not just the "talking-part" but everything what a team communicates and how it's done and sometimes even more important: what not. Every expression is communication and there is no communication without intention.

I personally never invest once I find what I call a "negative-pattern". Weaknesses are always to find, even in the best projects. Nobody is perfect. But negative patterns, like a lack of accuracy or clear signs of dishonesty or whatever, is usually a clear sign to stay away. Because there is a high probability that it not only will continue, but also have impact on a lot of other aspects of a project, that are not visible but would be important for success.
1069  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN ICO] HEAT: 3.0 crypto*multisig fiat*a2a hft*1000tps*DSA*PoS+PoP*e2ee chat* on: February 19, 2017, 03:03:54 AM
 

Besides the fact that you guys did not prepare basic informations like a Whitepaper, and besides the fact that you list a lot of "headline-incentives" to buy the ICO in the Ann without detailing it out to give more information which would give more trust, it's especially the way you react on questions that makes me suspicious. I see dishonesty in that. (...)

And the best idea is nothing if the team behind wouldn't be able to deliver or if the team behind acts dishonest. And you show both. Not saying that I believe you plan a scam. But I believe that the team behind this project has a clear priority to make money first and there is a lot of risk that there will be a lot of justifications later to not deliver. Or if, that it will also show this pattern: Rushed out, not thoughtful, not accurate, lazy, without strategy, and so on. (...)

1070  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][rICO]Antshares Blockchain Mainnet is ONLINE! on: February 18, 2017, 08:54:01 PM
I am reading now about this project. Looking good.

Where can i buy?
I want to get rid of this shit.I have somewhere around 450 ANS and my web wallet takes ages to sync.
I can give you PASSPHARASE and everything you want.
You can move it to your wallet.
I can help you with that if there is no problem on desktop wallet, havent used it for weeks now
I am using web wallet.I tried to install desktop wallet but it requires me to download additional files.
Desktop wallet will also take long to sync,so there is no use installing it.
Btw what is the current market price of ANS?

0.00011600 right now
https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ANS
1071  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - SPECIAL LIMITED OFFER FEBRUARY 9 – FEBRUARY 28, 2017 on: February 18, 2017, 04:26:07 PM
So with HCP are you pretty much buying a tree to be planted? Not really seeing how this is an investment. Seems more like crowd funding to help the environment which is good. I just don't see how the price will go up over time.

I have to admit that I don't know that much about it yet. Will have to read more about it first. Lykke will publish a press-release soon as far as I know. What I know is that 1 HCP represents one mangrovian tree. And it's about carbon rights if I understand it correctly. But, like said: There will be a press-release and more information.

If it's an investment to make profit with I don't know - in best case yes. I believe the basic idea is: Lykke will attract a lot of people and money and pretty much 100% will have the intention to use Lykke to make more money. So it can't be wrong to help a project like that to get more attention and also more money. And even if not everybody will invest in it, more people will learn about it. That's already has value - and some will invest without doubt.
1072  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - SPECIAL LIMITED OFFER FEBRUARY 9 – FEBRUARY 28, 2017 on: February 18, 2017, 10:51:31 AM
Is 1-year Lykke contract offered on site  https://forward.lykke.com/ exactly the same as 1yLKK bought through LYKKE app?

Yes, it's now possible to buy directly over the App and yes, it's the same.
1073  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - SPECIAL LIMITED OFFER FEBRUARY 9 – FEBRUARY 28, 2017 on: February 17, 2017, 07:08:52 PM
So I've bought months ago during the ICO, now another ico for 20% discount? what's this scam? Why should I buy now lower than months ago with nothing tradable yet?

Nobody forces you to buy! But what is sold now is a 1year-forward-contract. Those who buy now have the advantage to buy below the current marketprice but they can't sell into the LKK market for one year.

Tradeable are (will be) both. You can buy and sell LKK, and after this crowdfunding it will also be possible to trade 1YLKK until the 365-day-period is triggered and that's a free choice.


And please don't use the word "Scam". I have nothing against critique and I'm always open to discuss the hell out of each and any aspect and we can use this thread for some nice fights ;-) , but that word implies hidden and dishonest intention to make money on the back of misleaded Investors while not deliver on promise. And Lykke acts the other way around. They are totally transparent about the financial part, not only the past but also about how and for what they'll use the money in future. And when it's about the development:

https://github.com/LykkeCity --> won't be easy to find another project with such activity and quality on the development front. (Just by the way: They've pushed out an update for the App)

Goal will always be to ensure a win-win-Situation while building a great project and increasing it's value. And of course: Funding is needed until Lykke will make profit - that is in line with shareholders interest. That is true for all startups and in my opinion it's much smarter to do things carefully and step by step and over time in combination with showing real progress, instead of triggering a big hype only with a whitepaper and some nice screenshots to sell as much as possible at once but running out of money after 12 months.

Out of Investor-perspective a decision if to buy or not to buy or to sell if invested, should be based on the own conclusion if this project has potential - if the team will be able to deliver. And what I always suggest is to dig deep. Because the interesting part is: There are a lot of projects that may seem great on first sight while a lot of fascination gets lost once one takes a deeper look into it. With Lykke it's the other way around. My prediction is: For those who do deep research and begin to understand it, the more fascinating and promising it will become - and based on facts.

One also could do it this way: Take a look at the current quality and what they've already achieved. Then take a look at what they want to achieve in future and ask yourself what Lykke could become in months and years if they "just" continue to develop this on all fronts how it was done until now.
 
1074  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Lykke - semi-dezentraler Marktplatz auf der Blockchain on: February 17, 2017, 06:36:26 PM
zu der aktuellen lkk1y geschichte ... wenn ich das richtig verstehe, kann man doch seinen bestand an lkk recht einfach in lkk1y umtauschen und sich so 20% mehr ins portfolio holen, oder? wenn man plant sowieso länger als ein jahr in lkk investiert zu sein, wäre man ja blöd wenn man das nicht nutzt ... das werden sicher einige nutzen und die kapitalbeschaffung erschweren was ja eigentlich kontraproduktiv ist.

wie wird sich das den mit den lkk1y im nächsten jahr verhalten? werden die "futures" gehandelt und laufen parallel zu lkk? können die dann länger als 1 jahr gehandelt werden??? versteh das alles noch nicht so 100% .. wenn die futures handelbar sind, bin ich schon gespannt wie sich ihr preis entwickeln wird. aktuell steht der preis bei 0.037€ im vergleich zu 0.045€ für lkk. scheint also als würden sich die 20% auf den realtime lykke kurs beziehen ...?

grundsätzlich ist mir aufgefallen, dass der markt recht liquide scheint - kann man irgendwo das volume der einzelnen assets sehen? auch wäre es cool wenn es eine eigene history verlinkt in jedem asset gäbe und nicht nur eine komplette versteckt in den settings (weiß ja nicht ob du sowas sinnvoll weitergeben kannst)

und wieder mal danke tempus!


edit: kam noch was dazu Wink

Nichts zu danken! Smiley

Du liegst so ziemlich mit allem sehr richtig. Und ich musste auch erst ne Weile über die 1yLKK nachdenken bis ich das Konzept einigermaßen begriffen habe - ist ja immerhin ziemlich unüblich in unserer "Crypto-Welt" ;-)

Kann man LKK verkaufen um 1yLKK zu kaufen?

Ja, und das haben auch einige getan, wenn Du hier auf den kleinen Knick im Preis schaust:



Für jene die langfristig orientiert sind kann das definitiv Sinn machen. Ich selbst habe keine LKK verkauft sondern plane in den nächsten Tagen, sobald ich etwas liquider bin, zusätzlich einige 1yLKK zu kaufen. Grundlegend bevorzuge ich eher Flexibilität - nicht so sehr weil ich schlechte Nachrichten Lykke betreffend erwarte, aber falls ich mal Geld brauchen sollte. ;-)


"wie wird sich das den mit den lkk1y im nächsten jahr verhalten? werden die "futures" gehandelt und laufen parallel zu lkk? können die dann länger als 1 jahr gehandelt werden??? "

Exakt! Die 1yLKK entsprechen einem Vertrag der gehandelt werden kann solange er nicht "aktiviert" wird. Es gibt also zwei Möglichkeiten:

1) "Jemand" kauft und drückt den "365-Tage-Trigger" sofort (nach Ende des Crowdfundings). Damit wird der Vertrag zwischen Investor und Lykke gültig. Die 1YLKK werden sozusagen eingefroren und nach Ablauf der 365 Tage in normale LKK umgewandelt.

2) Man kann die 1yLKK auch traden solange der Trigger nicht aktiviert wird - also frei verkaufen, kaufen etc. und das wird ein paralleler Markt zu den "normalen" LKK sein und wird dann v.a. in Kombination mit Margin-Trading Sinn machen.

Der Preis der 1yLKK ist während des Crowdfundings fest bei 0.04 CHF.


Und ja, wird interessant sein wie sich das dann entwickelt, auch weil die Marktaktivität fast schon ein "Feedback-System" ist. Nimm z.B. an dass Lykke große Fortschritte erzielt, gute News rausbringt und daher von Investoren immer positiver eingeschätzt wird: Der 1YLKK-Preis wird sich dann tendenziell immer weiter an LKK anpassen - u.a. auch deshalb weil sich immer mehr dazu entscheiden werden den "365d-Trigger" zu aktivieren die dem 1YLKK-Markt dann entzogen werden. Und Ende Februar 2018 werden dann nach und nach 1YLKK in LKK umgewandelt - aber eben nicht auf einen Schlag.


Was die Markt-Transparenz angeht: Momentan gibts das in der App noch nicht, nur auf Coinmarketcap: http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/lykke-exchange/

Aber das wird sich ändern, u.a. auch weil die App nur ein erster Schritt ist. Ich weiß nicht genau wann es rauskommen wird, aber ein "Web-Based-Terminal" wird schon entwickelt. Irgendwann sagte Sergey Ivliev mal der Release sei Ende von Q1 geplant was natürlich super wäre.

Was die History betrifft: Kann sein das die wieder an ihren alten Platz kommt. Es gibt mehrere die das besser fänden. Ein Problem ist nur immer das so eine App einerseits viele Features hat und noch mehr dazu kommen, gleichzeitig nicht zu überladen wirken soll um intuitiv bedienbar zu sein. Aber insgesamt kann man wohl davon ausgehen dass sich die App mit der Zeit noch ziemlich verändern wird.

Übrigens: Es gibt schon wieder ein Update. Es ist jetzt möglich den 1YLKK direkt über die App zu kaufen. Außerdem ist noch ein weiterer Asset hinzugekommen: http://www.wif.care/hcp/

Ich habe das im englischen Bereich noch nicht gepostet, weil der offizielle Lykke-Press-Release noch aussteht.


1075  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - SPECIAL LIMITED OFFER FEBRUARY 9 – FEBRUARY 28, 2017 on: February 17, 2017, 06:07:16 PM
@tempus

Can you post the LKK distribution in details?
I.e. how many LKK total (and if there will be new LKK issued) and who owns how many LKK.

Yes, sure! The most detailed informations are here to find:

1) Information Brochure for Coinholders February 2017
https://forward.lykke.com/files/Lykke_Corp_Offering_Memorandum.pdf

2) About the 1yLKK-forward
https://forward.lykke.com/files/Fact_sheet_2017.pdf


Short overview in my words:

The total supply of Lykke Coins is: 1,285,690,000 LKK

100 Lykke Coins represent 1 share of the company: 12,856,900 shares

The majority of shares is held by the company, it's founders, angel Investors and the team.

Detailed Overview of Coinholders: https://www.coinprism.info/asset/AXkedGbAH1XGDpAypVzA5eyjegX4FaCnvM/owners

Sold during ICO in September-October 2016: 30,000,000 LKK - 300,000 shares.


The current crowdfunding is a 1-year-LKK-forward-contract and about 50,000,000 LKK - 500,000 shares.


That means in my own words: An Investor has the advantage to buy into the 1yLKK (for 0.04 CHF) below the LKK-market-price, but after activating the contract (pulling the 365-day-trigger) it would be locked for 1 year until he gets 1 LKK for each 1yLKK.

But: After the crowdfunding, an Investor is free to decide to trade the 1yLKK as a contract, or to pull the 365-day-trigger. It's also his choice to do that whenever he wants - if. The official explanation can be found in the linke above (2 - Fact Sheet).


For the available supply on the market that means: It first stays at 30,000,000 LKK but increases after 1 year - dependent on how much will be sold during this Crowdfunding and how many of the Investors will activate the 1yLKK and when they will decide to do that. It won't be all at once.  


Because of your question if more LKK will be issued: Sergey Ivliev said this on telegram in January:

"there is no plans to increase number of shares of Lykke Corp, hence no "inflation" for Lykke coins"

 
With other words: That doesn't mean that the company won't sell more shares in future. But it will be done carefully and the total amount won't increase.
1076  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - SPECIAL LIMITED OFFER FEBRUARY 9 – FEBRUARY 28, 2017 on: February 17, 2017, 08:23:32 AM
Loops line there is a new trading asset in the wallet. What is HCP?

There are even two new assets! The 1-year-forward-LKK is also in the App now (but only IOS until now) and can be purchased directly.
Press release to HCP should be released today.
1077  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - SPECIAL LIMITED OFFER FEBRUARY 9 – FEBRUARY 28, 2017 on: February 16, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
This project have any bounty program?

I'm not sure yet. I'll ask tomorrow and we'll see if something like that is planned.
1078  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - SPECIAL LIMITED OFFER FEBRUARY 9 – FEBRUARY 28, 2017 on: February 16, 2017, 09:45:19 PM
I also discovered whaleclub. Anyone try that and how does that compare. You can short in whaleclub and has more leverage. Seems more advanced

I don't know much about it. But it seems to be a centralized exchange right? And one advantage of Lykke already is advanced security because of the more of decentralization.

Regarding margin trading: It will be available on Lykke soon. And much more to come.

I know, I say it quiet often but the truth needs to be repeated: Lykke will impress and surprise!

P.S.: In some months I'll quote my own predictions with a comment in german:
"Ich habs Euch doch gesagt!" ;-)
1079  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - SPECIAL LIMITED OFFER FEBRUARY 9 – FEBRUARY 28, 2017 on: February 16, 2017, 09:38:02 PM
Kind of funny is, that some are critical that the supply is not already more distributed and others are critical about it when there is more on the free market. ;-)

There's nothing funny about being diluted out of an investment.

First of all: That are no new issued shares! They already exist.

But please tell me what would be the best-case-scenario in your opinion.

Why I ask is this:

Lykke is a really huge project and a company which employs about 30 people (I'm not even sure about the exact number). And we are not talking about Script-Kiddies here or Crypto-Guys like me but about people with huge expertise in a lot of different areas (the tech, finance, risk management, etc.). Additionally: Lykke has costs because the goal is to get licenses everywhere and that's not cheap.

That said: Out of your own perspective as a shareholder it would not only be paradox but under the line simply not rational, if you would want them to stop all that because no new shares should reach the market.

But, my question was serious. I would like to know what you (or others) believe would be best.

It should be considered that this is no "shitcoin" or "take-the-ICO-Money-and-run-Project" or one of those projects that would be good if they wouldn't be so damn unprofessional on the business side.

you know I came to the understanding of the so call "ultimate goal" of a blockchain or trustless system is to de-commoditized trust... I know it's like fiction

but that my friend is what this whole experiment this industry is about

no more a need to trust X/institution/authority

I think this video might interest you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygZWhQXZtl4

so... yeah.. you know... why are we all here for?

the future right?

just saying


Yes, very good explanation about blockchain and what it makes possible! Smiley

I even believe that like nobody (or nearly nobody) could know in the early 90's how to Internet would develop, we can't predict now what the blockchain-technology will make possible in future and when it's about 10 years or 20 or even 50 years. But I really have no doubt that it will have huge impact and change a lot. That's also the Nr. 1 reason why I don't understand so called Bitcoin-maximalists. Bitcoin as a blockchain is great and Bitcoin as the "payment-Application" on the Blockchain is great as well. But of course there will be a lot of progress not only in Bitcoin. I believe the future will be about many blockchains and that it's good to have choice and that "connection + competition" is and will be very healthy.
1080  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: February 16, 2017, 08:02:25 PM
Didn't have time to read it yet, but a lot about Factom:

Applying Blockchain Tech to Medical Records for Improved Security and Access
http://www.haynesboone.com/publications/applying-blockchain-tech-to-medical-records
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