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1221  Other / Archival / REEEE: PM from admin demanding to exclude a certain user on: June 15, 2019, 10:27:56 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153678.msg51454349#msg51454349

Continued from above because Suchmoon censored the thread.

Most recently the Cookie Monster (o_e_l_e_o) complained that he didn’t receive a PM from theymos asking him to remove lauda from his trust list and exclude him.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153678.msg51452774#msg51452774

I hypothesized this was because some of his logged IP addresses match another forum user.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153678.msg51453907#msg51453907

Suchmoon did not like me saying this and called me a troll.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153678.msg51454132#msg51454132

She subsequently locked the thread preventing further discussion about the matter.

Substantially all of the original OP of the other thread.
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Since the "Lauda PM" is now public knowledge let me just state that this sort of thing - forum owner/admin sending a PM demanding "recommending" to exclude a certain user from my trust network - is deeply unwelcome. Theymos can blacklist anyone he wants, there is no need for him to coerce others into doing this. At the very least this call for action should have been done publicly. I want to put this out in case anyone wants to exclude (or blacklist  Wink) me for this opinion.
Reopening since suchmoon continues to censor her thread.

at no point will both threads be open
1222  Other / Meta / Re: Users who Created or Wiped their Trust list - weekly data on: June 15, 2019, 10:16:01 PM
In the past week, 4 DT1-members have wiped their Trust list. This is probably caused by the drama that followed after theymos introduced Trust flags:
Three of the four DT1 users who wiped their list are closely associated with Lauda, and likely did this to support lauda.

minifrij has previously told me that he doesn't want to be in DT at all:
reference.
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[...]I have no real interest in being a part of the DefaultTrust system, but I'm not going to put the energy in to remove myself from it.
1223  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hhampuz embezzling signature campaign funds from BestMixer on: June 15, 2019, 08:25:07 PM
I don't think that makes sense. Maybe I should clarify, that this is not at all logical. BestMixer would not benefit to having the money hidden because the fact the money exists is still public.
Would they benefit from having the location of the money as an unknown to the public?

No. The existence of the money is still known to the public. Once you disclose the existence of the money publicly, you lose the benefit of hiding its exact location. As previously stated, it would be trivial for BextMixer to later mix the money themselves once returned to them.

After all, you presume it resides with DarkStar_ now as a result of Hhampuz's loan. What if this is not the case?
Hhampuz has other bills. The money could have been used to pay for his various living expenses so that his forum earnings could be used to solely repay the loan.
1224  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hhampuz embezzling signature campaign funds from BestMixer on: June 15, 2019, 08:13:12 PM
Or he simple mixed and moved the funds to protect his employer?
Ah, this makes sense.
I don't think that makes sense. Maybe I should clarify, that this is not at all logical. BestMixer would not benefit to having the money hidden because the fact the money exists is still public.

With the money hidden from public view, his employer does not know if Hhampuz has any intention of repaying the excess money, and his former employer will need to take a risk to even ask for the money back. Further, mixing the coins can be trivially done by BestMixer themselves when the money is returned.

As I have previously stated, when dealing with other people's money, you should not get the benefit of the doubt. Hhampuz has not even bothered to respond to this thread in a meaningful way or otherwise, instead he has relied on various proxies to either try to derail the thread or to give ludicrous explanations. Nor has Hhampuz bothered to even confirm he will return the money to BestMixer promptly upon their request for him to do so. I would point out that it is pretty standard for the default response to a scam accusation is to leave negative trust until a response is given.

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Ok. I think you didn't see this:

If owner is unknown, again, to whom will Hhampuz return money? If I borrow someone money and I disappear, how will someone reach me if no one can find me and I don't contact anyone?

(assuming that hhampuz didn't return money)
If Hhampuz does not know where to return the money to, he should keep it exactly where it was. If there is some reason why he needs to move the money, for example to move it to cold storage, he should provide public notice so the owner can be aware of the move, even if not logged in. If the owner has previously agreed to pay a minimum fee that Hhampuz intends on continuing to charge, he should similarly provide public notice so the owner has a way to be aware they need to ask for their money to be returned or else continue incurring these charges.
1225  Economy / Reputation / Re: Quickseller is a dangerous person to deal with - avoid on: June 15, 2019, 06:09:49 PM

Perhaps you could point out where anyone had said I was "mistaken" when minerjones backed out of multiple auctions.
I get it, you don't like that I am calling out Hhampuz for stealing from BestMixer. If Hhampuz were to be labeled a scammer (rightfully so), your earnings from your signature campaign would likely stop. I am sure you don't like actual scammers, but when calling out a scammer means you lose out on income, you are more than willing to put pressure on the person to stop calling out the scammer.

This is not unlike how you described as selling an account as "borderline evil" and subsequently tried to sell your account for money.
1226  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hhampuz embezzling signature campaign funds from BestMixer on: June 15, 2019, 05:23:58 PM
~snip~
You forgot about the Fortune Jack campaign. However, the participants are paid via their Fortune Jack account. Each participant gets .02 BTC per week. Hhampuz probably gets more than that...
I accounted for his FJ signature:
He may earn an additional 0.08 per month wearing his paid signature,
I am not sure why you believe he is getting paid more than 0.02/week. The majority of his posts are one liners that don't have any real insight, nor is any real effort put into his posts. I don't see why any reasonable person would even accept him into a signature campaign that isn't accepting anyone with a pulse.


The loan does give a motive for Hhampuz to steal from BestMixer, however proving the existence of the loan or that hhampuz would not otherwise be able to repay the loan is not necessary to prove that money was stolen from BestMixer. There remains blockchain evidence that Hhampuz stole money from the BestMixer signature campaign and moved it to chipmixer to hide where it went next.
1227  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hhampuz embezzling signature campaign funds from BestMixer on: June 15, 2019, 06:35:24 AM
As for the circumstantial evidence link... there is some substance to it but it is marginal, in my opinion.

I'm not quite sure why the funds moved but here's something of note:

Assuming a steady income of bitcoin, Hhampuz has the ability to repay the loan.
The loan terms are unknown therefore we cannot conclude anything of the date of repayment.
We can assume but we do not know how much bitcoin Hhampuz has in any alternative wallets.
We can assume but we do not know how much bitcoin Hhampuz makes in a given period of time.
We can assume but we cannot conclude.
The repayment txid was dfa7b822da1192bde63f71d881b3141aa33c1273ea85c6c3951c2b2c43c7bf3c. I know this because Darkstar_ previously had BTC at the repayment address and sent BTC from that address to a deposit address of an exchange/website. Darkstar_ has sent other BTC from known addresses of his to the same deposit address in the past. The transaction that repaid the loan was from known addresses belonging to Hhampuz.

Based on the above, the repayment amount was 0.55BTC and was done on June 7. The blockchain evidence supports the loan amount being 0.5BTC being taken out on May 10. This means Hhampuz paid 10% interest, or 0.05BTC in interest.

The reason why someone would take out a loan is because they want (or need) to pay for something that exceeds the amount of money they have (except for margin loans). There are some exceptions to this, however none would apply when interest, and certainly not 10% interest is being paid. The high price of BTC was ~$7,280, so Hhampuz took out a loan of about $3,640, or whatever that is in Euros. The low price on June 7 was around $7,800, so he paid $390 for the loan.

Hhampuz confirmed that he makes a living off of "reading posts", so he would need to use his income from the forum to repay the loan, plus pay his bills for the last month.

It is a safe assumption that without the loan, Hhampuz would not have had any personal BTC or personal fiat money unless he were to skip paying some bill/expense, because otherwise he would not have been willing to pay the nearly $400 for the privilege of taking out the loan. This is an assumption, but it would be illogical to say otherwise.

I documented above that Hhampuz has the following income from managing signature campaigns:
*0.0225BTC/week from managing the BitcoinCasino.com campaign
*0.02BTC/week from managing the PlayBetr campaign
*What appears to be an average of 0.055BTC/week from managing the LiveCoin campaign

A review of the BitBlender signature campaign thread reveals that campaign funds were being paid out of this wallet, which reflects payments to Hhampuz's known address in the amount of approximately 0.045BTC per week.

I reviewed his thread created, and was unable to locate any other campaigns he was running as of when he took out the loan.

Based on the above, I would say, he was making approximately 0.1425BTC per week managing signature campaigns. Although one campaign ended 3 weeks after Hhampuz took out the loan, and the BitcoinCasino.com signature campaign is now closed.

Based on the above, Hhampuz only made 0.525BTC managing signature campaigns in the 4 weeks prior to repaying the loan. He may earn an additional 0.08 per month wearing his paid signature, which would raise his total earnings to 0.605BTC.

The 0.55BTC he paid Darkstar_ made up just under 91% of his documented earnings, and the interest alone made up around 8% of his earnings. The argument that he made more than enough to repay the loan does not hold water because he needs to pay his living expenses during this time. 

1228  Economy / Services / Re: offering escrow services on: June 15, 2019, 05:18:16 AM
lol. Good luck buddy. You will need it Cheesy
1229  Economy / Reputation / Re: Quickseller is a dangerous person to deal with - avoid on: June 15, 2019, 04:54:29 AM
The real reason why QS is far from trustworthy and quite the opposite is because he has a long, established history of flat out lying about things. For years he's been taking personal grudges and turning them into baseless accusations, posting hundreds of times in accusatory threads even after it has been explained to him repeatedly why he is mistaken.

Let's go through some of them:

Hhampuz embezzling signature campaign funds from BestMixer - completely fabricated allegation based 100% on conjecturing and without real, substantiating evidence of claims

Is theymos okay with Blazed being on DT1 when he refuses to account for x00 btc - another series of unsubstantiated allegations in an attempt to damage the standing of Blazed, lauda, and minerjones

owlcatz dox information - doxing attempt on a user who did not scam anybody, not much more needs to be said

Former Staff member Lauda has a pill addiction - not a single shred of evidence produced by QS in 9 pages of discussion

Scammer TMAN - vindictive nonsense demonstrated to be wholly inaccurate

minerjones backing out of multiple auctions - posted in Scam Accusations even though no one had been scammed, clearly a smear attempt on MJ's reputation

Requesting proof of trade between Zepher and TMAN[Zepher engaging in fake trades - QS believes the lack of blockchain evidence on the forum of a trade between 2 highly trusted members warrants a thread claiming they are engaging in "fake trades"

Dooglus is supporting ponzis - Scam Accusation against dooglus for fixing bugs in a script known to be used by Ponzis (he never scammed anyone, nor said he "supported ponzis")

He does have some insightful threads and posts from time to time, but based on the whole of his behavior over the years, I wouldn't trust QS with a wooden nickel.
This is utter and complete ridiculousness. It looks to me like you do not want certain people to get criticized, regardless of any harm these people cause to others, and regardless of their behavior or violation of generally accepted community standards.

Perhaps you could point out where anyone had said I was "mistaken" when minerjones backed out of multiple auctions. For reference, here is a 24 page thread in which everyone except the OP agreed it is unacceptable to back out of auctions.

If you believe the allegation that money was missing from what was being entrusted to lauda, minerjones and blazed, I would refer you to this, this, and this post.

It was very clearly explained that TMAN was misrepresenting the relationship between the current high bid at the time on his auction and the retail cost of what he was selling. TMAN was also part of an extortion attempt in which he placed harassing phone calls to his victims family. Owlcatz was also an accomplice to this extortion attempt.

I was very clear as to the evidence I had regarding lauda's pill addiction from the start of the thread.

Helping ponzis with their code is in fact supporting the ponzi. Other types of support for ponzis is frowned upon around here. Others have received negative trust for even participating in ponzis, which is less of giving support than helping fix its code.
1230  Economy / Reputation / Re: ▄▀▄ REMOVE LAUDA FROM DT ▄▀▄▀▄▀▄ LIST UPDATED 2/5/19 ▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄π on: June 15, 2019, 04:52:48 AM
I'm sure Lauda will end up on DT1 again despite Theymos's protest. 
I would be surprised if lauda is not currently blacklisted from DT1. I don't think he is the only one to have recently gotten blacklisted without personally requesting to be blacklisted.
1231  Economy / Services / Re: offering escrow services on: June 15, 2019, 04:47:59 AM
You should consider first getting more trading experience around here before starting offering your own escrow services. In general, you should show a fairly long trading history before offering escrow services. In addition to showing that you can be trusted to handle others' money, you need to show you have the experience to mediate any possible disputes.
1232  Other / Meta / Re: Mod Rankings (how do you rank them) on: June 15, 2019, 04:44:48 AM
0/10 hilariousandco (has only attacked me and never gave me any insight) Banned me, locked my post, deleted many of my post, moved many of my post, try`s to ridicule me, used to have the title "Laborugini memeber" till I trolled him on it and he changed it now it is "hugh member" not much better. Man has a ego and needs to try doing mushrooms a few times. (very unprofessional mod), This man is a fiat loving weasel.

^in fact if I could give you a negative rating I would. -10/10
I personally like hilariousandco and strongly disagree with your assessment. With that being said, ouch lol.


I have seen your posts in various sections. My advice to you is to put in a decent amount of effort into your posts and show that you have an interest in bitcoin and crypto in general, and you will do great here.
1233  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Merit for Crypto (and other) Knowledge (no guide threads) on: June 15, 2019, 04:38:44 AM
Here are a few of my thread which I gathered, I would like you to consider them. I would also appreciate any form of feedback on them:
You show yourself to have a good technical understanding of bitcoin and crypo (currency and graphy), and an interest in both. You also put in a lot of effort into most of your posts. Keep up the good work.


Come back in a month, and reference this post (and three more of your posts). If you need less than 10 merit to rank up to Full Member, I will consider giving you sufficient merit to rank up. Keep up the good posts.



I prefer to only give out merit to each person once per month via this thread. I reviewed your posts you submitted and would have otherwise awarded you merit. You can resubmit these (or other) posts as early as July 4, and I will give you some merit (assuming you put in similar effort into the posts you submit).
1234  Other / Meta / Re: Happy birthday, theymos! on: June 15, 2019, 03:45:11 AM
HBD!

Make it a good one!
1235  Other / Meta / Re: Interested in the old trust system? on: June 14, 2019, 10:48:02 PM
If anyone can post the details on how trust used to be calculated, BPIP can [...] rank it.

I don't think the trust system was every meant to be a mechanism to rank users one way or another. It was meant to be a mechanism to gauge the ability to trust a person in a trade.
1236  Economy / Reputation / Re: Can a DT member (or any member) oppose their own flag? on: June 14, 2019, 08:35:36 PM
You can oppose your own flag. It is one additional way to contest the charges against yourself.
1237  Economy / Reputation / Re: amaclin/amaclin1 flags on: June 14, 2019, 07:09:05 PM
I believe amaclin is banned IIRC. I’m not sure why amaclin1 isn’t banned.
1238  Other / Meta / Re: Problem with Stake.com Signature on: June 14, 2019, 06:56:43 PM
In light of the changes to the stake.com signature campaign, I have withdrawn my request to have stake.com signatures blacklisted, pending the success of the changes made by Stake.

I do think those listed in the OP should be reviewed for bans, for merit abuse and ban evasion as mentioned in the OP if this has not already been done. 
1239  Economy / Reputation / Re: Stake.com Signature Campaign - A new kind of future on: June 14, 2019, 06:51:41 PM
I am glad you are making some positive changes to your campaign. Provided you can monitor your participants, your campaign shouldn’t generate too much spam (and harm to the forum).

I will withdraw my request to have your signatures banned. Although I will continue to allow anyone to continue posting in the thread for now.
1240  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hhampuz embezzling signature campaign funds from BestMixer on: June 14, 2019, 06:32:03 PM
I do have txids

Where is the txid from Hhampuz to Darkstar, linking the ChipMixer outputs to Darkstar's address?
Not necessary jackass. It is trivial to move coins from ChipMixer to another mixer, and this can be repeated multiple times.

I have proven both that Hhampuz has stolen money from BestMixer, and that he had a loan outstanding in roughly the amount he stole as of this time.

So, basically what you're trying to say is that, Hhampuz took a loan from DarkStar_ (I know about that as I can see his post history) at the time when Bestmixer was going to shut all their operations? And you think he knew that before and did everything intentionally?

I am saying that I have presented substantial evidence that Hhampuz has a loan outstanding as of immediately prior to when BestMixer shut down. I have no reason to believe he knew about this ahead of time. I am saying that he took advantage of the situation to repay his debt with money belonging to BestMixer. The repayment happened either directly or indirectly with BestMixer money— meaning that he may have run the specific inputs through one or more mixers before repaying the loan and he may have used BestMixers money to pay other bills/expenses and as a result was able to use other inputs to repay the loan that he would have otherwise used to pay those bills.

I don’t think he would have taken the loan if he knew about BestMixer closing in advance. Others bringing this up are trying to create a distraction.
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Well, as you said you've got txid, why are you crossing your own words (by putting those IDs in suspense) and saying that he purchased Chips from Chipmixer which ended (specifically, landed) to DarkStar's address/es? You should really come up with great evidence to prove him guilty, else you're again trying to harm "just another guy's" reputation here.


I am not sure what you mean here. There is evidence that Hhampuz
*had a loan outstanding as of when BestMixer closed down.
*moved the money belonging to BestMixer to a mixer (chipmixer) immediately after BestMixer closed.

There is also evidence that Hhampuz earns his living from his business here and as such he cannot use all of his earnings to repay any loan he takes out. He must use some of his earnings to pay for things like rent, food, utilities and other bills he may have. 
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Even more assumptions.

Moving funds =/= spending. You can't conclude anything about his income or spending pattern by looking at 1 address. You're just pissing in the wind here (as usual).

True, people here can easily use more than 10s of 100s of addresses every single day, so it's not really easy for anyone to "assume" about anybody's spends and earnings here.

How wicked is it QS when you first claim things like you know everything and then speak about assumptions. Assumptions are not gonna work but proofs, to let you make us believe that what you're saying is actually true. I've not personal grudges with you whatsoever, but I guess we need some more drama here eh!  Wink
See above. The specific fact set that can be proven will allow a reasonable person to conclude that Hhampuz stole money for his personal use.
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