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1381  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trading was fun! on: June 08, 2018, 08:49:45 AM
This is one of the things that I like mostly in cryptocurrencies job that you have fun and also you get your profit
Normally, rather than saying day trading is fun, I would rather say making profit and a shit load of it from day trading is fun. Day trading itself is a lot of work that can even come with huge stress but the good thing about it is that you can end up making a whole lot from it and that is where the sweet part comes into play.

It takes a lot to get used to the stress that comes with it but as you keep getting better and confident in yourself; it gradually becomes fun when you keep seeing the increase that comes in for you.
1382  Economy / Speculation / Re: The whole market is experiencing slump in last few days. on: June 08, 2018, 08:12:50 AM
This is not new and up and down is the cycle of this market.  You either accept the nature of this market or loose money through panic sell and unreasonable buying. If slump happen it will always be the time to buy and if pump happen time to sell and the cycle keep repeating itself several time.
Yeah, not new at all and it is something anyone that has been here for a while now should actually have got used to. However, this does not change the fact that the market's future is inevitably going to be great and even though we cannot see what the future holds, at least, what we have now is enough to give anyone hope that the chances of seeing a superb market is still there.

Such slumps like this are always a good time to buy into the market and it is just funny that a lot of people usually love doing the opposite. Except common bitcoiners, I believe all the big institutions are making use of every dip that is the reason still they are capable of manipulating the market movements.
1383  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC will drop to $1000 --- you have been warned. on: June 08, 2018, 07:20:52 AM
In a way, you sure do have a point and in a way, your point was over stated. The market is in a B.S state but there is no point spelling doomsday, and if $1000 indeed ends up happening, how fun do you think that is going to be for a lot of people to pop into the market and see how they can benefit in it for the long term.

I actually do not care if the market drops lower than that. Get used to it, everything is bound to correct, and that happens in every market, so making bitcoin sound like the main idea is for it to keep moving up, and now because it is in a downtrend, you are giving $1000 theory, then you must be mistaken.
1384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin may continue to move higher on: June 08, 2018, 06:42:53 AM
No one can ever predict the price of bitcoin as this has volatile movement. I will just contented that this has still here despite of all the negative news being slapped for this year. The price of bitcoin is still worth it now and If the price will rise in the year end it's a bonus to us. Stay positive as we had more years to come.
Staying positive is the only thing we actually have anyway and there is actually no way like you said that someone can easily just assume what the future is going to be holding for bitcoin. In the long run, it is sure going to be moving higher than it is now, and anyone who is focused on the long term, will really not bother about now, as long term thinking can indeed affect your short term decisions. The market is going to eventually recover, but we just have to wait to see when or at what value.
1385  Economy / Economics / Re: Economy going up and up everyday on: June 07, 2018, 03:00:16 PM
Even though economy is going up and up every day, the price of bitcoin is still dropping.
Maybe you are missing the point and maybe the topic is misleading, but if you read the OP, you will understand this is not about economy getting better, but things actually not getting that better. Although, in my country, inflation is gradually reducing, compared to how things have been over the years, not sure about the loan rates however, but somehow, not that bad.

If we are looking at the global level, it seems things are not that smooth and like the OP said, in the case where things may actually start getting horrific, we may even start seeing more investments into bitcoin and some other cryptocurrencies.
1386  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason we pay taxes and why we should on: June 07, 2018, 08:42:02 AM
Yes, I believe we should but the tax should not be so high at all. It should just be a dirtcheap contribution for every individual because it hurts for me to see our taxes get stolen by corrupted officials in the government who can easily take millions with some manipulation.
High or not, I do not consider anything tax from my part. My country has never helped in anyway, as rich as my country is, the corrupt politicians won't just let it develop as they keep stashing and looting funds. Facilities are hard to find and when you are well to do, you will end up having to provide that for yourself eventually. If I cannot get all the things that are necessary from my government, why should I then pay my tax ? It sounds ridiculous as this should be a mutual benefit, you pay me, and I pay you back as long as I see the value for what I am paying.
1387  Economy / Speculation / Re: how low can it go on: June 07, 2018, 07:52:26 AM
I know why bitcoin prices are lower now because of the miners and investors who hold lots of bitcoins and sell them at high prices so decreased bitcoin value, and it is expected to return to the top some months are sure.
Months, years, days, no one knows anything asides the whales and the major stakeholders so I say though since it pretty much looks like they are the ones calling the shots anyway. However, no one knows how low or high at market can ever go in the long run, but one sure thing we all know is that at a point, the recovery will set in and we will get to start thinking of how high it will go. So far, there is still a possibility that the market can go lower than even $7000.

The little recovery we are seeing does not have anything to do with the long term perspective as it is normal to see those recoveries once in a while. It is important to always know that there is no way any of us can know how low, but the possibility is still very huge to go down lower if we end up breaking the major supports that we may expect to bounce from. We just have to wait and see how things would end up playing out anyway.
1388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price December 2018 on: June 07, 2018, 07:07:35 AM
my predictions in the month of December the price of Bitcoin is more than $ 10k.
if it's above the $ 10k price it's too much to taste. Smiley
For anyone who is actually buying the dips now, one thing I am sure of is that by December, the value obviously is going to be far more than what it is now and that is going to be some sweet profit in that case. No one surely knows how the market is going to end up like, but at least at that time of the year; we would have had some pretty good moves, which probably could have set us up for a good price. We may not be too hasty to judge though as every year may not always come out the same.
1389  Economy / Speculation / Re: be careful what you wish for on: June 07, 2018, 04:31:08 AM
Why does it look like most people wish for Bitcoin to crash?  Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh
Those people came late to buy bitcoin and now they wish that this will crash to bottom something like $5000 and then they will buy to fill-in their bags. Then, second wish is to have the price recovers as more buyers will ride on the situation. This scenario is repeated as crash is always happen after a good rally.
Not just those who are late, one thing you do not understand is that those whales who have already sold at the peak, do not really care how low it gets as they have all the bucks to buy in whenever they want to and those who even missed the low back then, are the small fish that even when the time comes, they will still not take the opportunity to buy at dips. Crash gives room for more future profit and chance to have a better position in the market for the future when the profit keeps kicking in.
1390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I have learnt my lessons on: June 06, 2018, 06:19:02 PM
I also strongly agree with your statement.
it would be better if you hold the tokens you have do not sell in a cheap price state
I hate to say this but good for him, atleast he did know what happens when he panicked and sell easily. We learned from our mistakes, not only him but personally i share the same experience just like him, and we don't want to happen that again.
I really do not hate to say it, which is good for him and any other person in his position. At the same time, I still thank them so much, because they are the reason I actually get a lot of gains after buying tokens that investors bought at a higher price during ICO at a lesser price.

It is good he is learning from or has learned from his mistakes, but I am sure a lot of people still would not most of the time, and they are the set of people that always cry wolf when they see what they have held in the past doing huge in percentage in the long run. 'I used to hold that coin or token' is not an excuse.
1391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it worth buying low-volume tokens? on: June 06, 2018, 05:29:36 PM
I think we should do more research because most of the time these tokens are worthless.
So it's like gambling, you're just betting on whether it's going to go up significantly in the future, it's like buying a lottery.
More research is actually the main thing that would help and for anyone who thinks it is just by low volume, then I guess they will have a lot of people in their category to welcome them to the world of shit coins. However, there are some coins or tokens that do have huge prospect and may be undervalued at the time they got listed on the exchange, which is rare most times though, but possible, but that is the case one may want to take advantage of.

It can be atually, but only if you anticipate a growth, or if you know some indise information, otherwise is a just wasted investments
Only if you believe it is a project that is worth holding so as not to end up bag holding shitcoins and then you will just see yourself holding for as long as you cannot even imagine, while hoping that it would someday pump. Most of coins like that are basically good for pump and dumps and even if you want to be taking a risk of that magnitude, you want to be putting in what you can afford to lose and not something huge.
1392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Benefits of gambling? Yes - it exists! on: June 05, 2018, 01:07:13 PM
As my experience, most of gambling activity has high risk !
Let's take a look on math when I have learned at school , explain that the chance of loss are greater than winning so it's difficult to find people who got rich because of gambling ( for who able to rich from gambling, they already overcome the risk ! )
They didn't overcome the risk even if they play next time there is no chance that they can win so it all depends on luck so we can't expect to be a millionaire by gambling alone.
What is even there to overcome in the first place ?
The risk is there, and the only thing that can make anyone not end up being susceptible to the craziness that the risk brings is just by being reasonable, realistic and principled. A lot of people look at the benefit they get from gambling the most which is from winning and then they discard the most important thing that is applicable mostly to gambling which is losing and with that they set themselves in a blazing torch that is hard to quench at the end.
1393  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When do you know its time to Stop? on: June 05, 2018, 07:37:21 AM
I stop when I notice that on the day I played I almost lose my budget for gambling meaning I lose more than I win. Even though I still have a chance of winning because I still have a budget, I will still stop coz I am thinking that losing on the game on that day is already the sign for me that I am not lucky enough to win amd maybe I lose all my money
Well I guess your are not one of those gamler who love to chase losses or maybe gambling for you is for fun and winning is not really a top priority regardless you lose or win you will only use the allocated money for that day. I hope to see more gambler like you though its very impossible to happen because gambling is really addictive.
The only way when you know it is time to stop is if you have already placed a limit for yourself in the first place which is what most gamblers do not always do and one of the reasons why they end up flopping so bad that they lose everything. Once you know luck is not on your side for the day, and you have been able to gamble enough of what you intend to gamble with, then that is it.

No going further or having a rethink to want to go back and see how to win what is already gone.
1394  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler's mindset! on: June 05, 2018, 04:48:55 AM
Their minds are just heading up to winning, the urge to win makes them more agressive to keep on betting that sometimes they never notice already that they are drowning because of continous losing, most of the time they are lost control if you are already an addict gambler, but of course there are wise gamblers also who calculates their moves and uses their minds all the time
The truth is that whether we like it or not or as much fun as we say we are catching, that urge to win will always be there and nothing will ever change that.

It is in human nature to always want to win, but the ability to now control yourself even with that mindset is what is important and if you best know it is hard to control yourself with such a winning mindset, it is better to look at the other direction or fix your mind to the fact that no matter what, the possibility of losing is much more and you do not want to set a trap for yourself.
1395  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trading was fun! on: June 05, 2018, 04:06:03 AM
it is the initial concept of trading in Crypto, not for AltCOins FAITH alone but others as well.

just like his thing I always buy when red and sell when the green, different I buy and sell at Altcoins TRON in Bittrex.
If you are buying a highly volatile market when red which I believe the FAITH you have mentioned is in that category, you best be ready to be smart in making decisions when that red is not actually the red you are simply looking for.

There are some people who always just think it is all about buying the red or buying low and selling high but there is totally more to it and you really need to know what you are doing, when you should be buying, when you should be stopping loss before you even start considering anything.
1396  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Tips for Beginners on: June 04, 2018, 08:51:51 AM
Well, those selected coins really went good when the green market happen end of  last year, the coins which really grows a lots and bring patience investors a huge profits, your story might inspire newbies but I just wanted to give some thoughts that it's not always be like that, we can buy and follow
coins that we think that can be successful after some time, just need to make sure about the project usage and the developers intention for the future of
the project.,
It is one thing to be lucky trading an uptrend while buying dip but what the OP has shared is more of a long term trade and never mentioned any strategy except looking for undervalued coins.

Sometimes, a coin can stay undervalued or over sold for a long period of time, and keep going lower as the case may be most especially with this high volatile market for mostly altcoins, and you really want to know exactly what you are doing as a trader and how well you have planned you entry and exit and stop losses even before entering a position.
1397  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Suggestion for trading on: June 04, 2018, 07:37:50 AM
you should never trust anyone and always research and analyze yourself and trading is in nature very risky way to make money so don't put more money.
That is always the best thing when it comes to trading.
The best thing is to never use someone's position to judge your own position without at least knowing exactly what you are doing.

Most traders that always end up sharing their strategy will not be there to tell you when they are stopping loss and it is always important to at least know that even if you are using some of their analysis to learn, you are basing your decision based on exactly what to know so as to confirm their own analysis, rather than following every way as that will get any one burned.
1398  Economy / Speculation / Re: SELL EVERYTHING!!!!! on: June 03, 2018, 08:32:09 AM
At some point you are right. However, one of the reason why cryptocurrency is profitable is also because of market manipilation. That is why most newbies lost money because they are not aware of this. Most people who are experienced enough knows how to handle the market volatility and manipulation, that is why they can profit from it.
In fact, the OP actually sound lame and not the kind of person one should be taking advice from. He earned $110000 and lost it all basically showed how stupid he must have been and even got lucky earning that much and I wonder why he is whining all about it and calling this a pyramid scheme. The Forex market fluctuates every day, but does that also make it a pyramid scheme? Some people just love to talk things that make them sound so lame. Selling all will only make such people lose out at the end of it all and start crying like a baby how they missed out.
1399  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin and retirement - how do you see your future? on: June 03, 2018, 07:48:20 AM
If bitcoin goes $100,000 then it will be grandiose retirement. Well we can never really tell. Bitcoin is volatile. We can't predict how this is going. But its a really good investment. So far, many have reaped the benefits that bitcoin has brought. But not many got lucky. Some people who lacks the tactics in the bussiness of cryptocurrency wil tend to fail. But who would know when to sell and when to buy? Who would know you bought at dump? Or you sold at high? When the price is continually fluctuating.
Grandiose retirement indeed.. The truth is that saving up retirement in the bank does not even guarantee any return at the end of the day and a pretty good idea of putting in $50 monthly into crypto is one that is worth taking which obviously has paid up the friend.

We should not forget that this is a very volatile environment, and a lot of precaution should be taken as well, but I believe in the future and hope things get even better than where we are today to make the retirement worth it even the more, but really, it is a great plan and for that amount monthly, it is worth taking the risk.
1400  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Darkness Is Gradually Disappearing and Dawn Is Coming on: June 02, 2018, 03:08:33 PM
Darkness still hovers around as the bears are still not far from the field as it is and for the fact that we can see some possibility of some uptrend right now, I am not so certain yet, that we are so out of it unless we are able to break out from some psychological barriers above us. We may be having a short term reversal soon or not, but time will tell and like I said and also as you have mentioned, nothing is absolutely guaranteed yet except to just see how events unfold at the end.

If bitcoin will be able to reach $7,800 we can take a deep breathe and sigh on it. But if it stays long on $7,400, $7,000 is on it's way.
$7800 should not be a problem in a short while as there is going to be a possibility of that in this month if the market does not fall below the trend support around $6800. The main thing, I am looking forward to is the top of the channel we are in and probably that should be falling around $8800 or thereabout and a break above, that should bring about the possibility of $10k and that is where we need to know where we are going next before declaring if the darkness is over or not.
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