Actually WiseOldOwl is getting out of the mining game, you can probably get his hardware off him.
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GLBSE looks very interesting. How safe is it? Is it well established? How runs it?
Security wise, it's VERY secure, using cryptographic keys instead of password logins, we're beyond password security. I'm the guy who runs it(I've been around for a while), on behalf of several investors(including myself). We've been live for... oh nearly 4 months now (I think) and have had no breakins or losses. glbse.com itself is fine(with regards security and trustworthyness) , the biggest issue is finding the right share to invest in, currently they're all quite high risk ( the shares that is) and people have already lost bitcoin, although quite a few have made some also. Nefario.
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Hey dishwara,
I think I can safely say that even though things have not worked out as you had hoped or expected; you deserve great respect for not saying "fuck this" and walking away from it all. You have shown that you are trustworthy, and even dependable.
I think for the moment you can stop trying to buy back peoples shares.
From now on, sell enough bitcoin to cover your electricity costs, if it doesn't cover your costs then you are better off not mining, wait for the price to rise before mining any more.
Insteal of buying back shares, I would think it might be a better idea to start paying dividends, and just inform your shareholders that as long as mining is profitable you will continue to pay dividends.
When you no longer want to continue, sell the equipment (even for a loss on what you paid, that's not a terrible thing) and use the money to buy bitcoins, then use this to make a final dividend payment and then forget about it.
You know, if you were interested you could use GLBSE to do a bitcoin => Rupee exchange (all the bitcoin stays in GLBSE, and the Rupees stay in your bank account).
Nefario.
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You're better off buying shares in a bitcoin mining company on GLBSE, SIN pays regular dividends.
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You can recycle money with Tradehill or Mt. Gox. Two safest e-wallets in existence.
1. Send funds to Mt. Gox (or even better; Mine your own coins and set the payment address to either one of those sites) 2. "Withdraw" whenever you want to send to someone (use their address as the recipient) 3. Get a new disposable address each time you receive funds
You don't even need to supply your real name & address (you could even log in with a proxy) as long as you don't request a wire transfer.
All "trails" lead to either site & not to your identity.
Sorry, I need to correct you, glbse.com is the safest e-wallet, followed by Mt.Gox some distance behind. How is this? because we use RSA key pairs to authenticate and authorise, we never know the private key.
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AFAIK this share is not for bitcoinbux.com, so that's not whats on the table.
If Owl is not going to continue operations, then the best thing to do is liquidate the assets for the company you have (i.e. the mining equipment)and make a single final dividend payment with the proceeds, then the share could be considered worthless.
In the meantime people can continue to trade in the share, and people can buy or sell for what they think it will eventually be worth.
You may consider selling the rigs to Tawsix of SIN, he may be interseted (don't know).
Another option may be to continue the running of the mining rig, less electricity and operation costs, paying out dividends until the rigs essentailly fail, and then liquidate them.
I would say that it would be a good idea for owl to recall any unsold shares,I'll add that function to the webclient tomorrow, and to cancel any of his market orders to sell.
If these turn out to be the only two ideas then owl might put them to a shareholder vote and let the shareholder decide how to wind things up.
Nefario.
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Thank you for these developments, especially the web client. I'm finding GLBSE more useable and useful now. Looking forward to the Exchange in a Box. I may be able to use it for the first ever bitcoin exchange in my country.
Eh the UI still isn't good enough though, need to improve.
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I purchased 12 shares as a vote of confidence. For some reason GLBSE's charts aren't up to date http://charts.glbse.com/markets/IBB.htmlNot that it matters because the price is accurate when you actually purchase or sell stock. That is because with the GLBSE update the API changed and charts couldn't get any new trade info. Thats been fixed now. Nefario.
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Is centimine over after this or are you starting again? If I bought shares and its over who would I sell them to after I get the dividend? Anyone who wants to buy them, but I couldn't imagine anyone dumb enough to do that since they would be worthless. And I think the ability to read, write, user computers, the internet, and to have even heard about what bitcoin is, never mind a stock market that trades only using bitcoin eliminates that possibility. Sorry, I don't mean to be snarky but I've just discovered the Archer TV series and have watched an episode, its so good.
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Also just to keep you informed, the swapover to the new server code was without any incident. Apart from 10 minutes of trading downtime everything was smooth, and there were no issues. It was so smooth that most people didn't even notice.
Nefario.
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Will there still be the .01 btc withdrawl fee, or are you lowering it to .0005? Is the minimum withdrawl size still in effect?
Withdrawl fee will be 0.001, min withdrawl being 0.5btc, thats reasonable right? Will you actually use at least parts of that fee (let's say 1000 Satoshis for example) as transaction fee to make transactions being included into blocks faster or is it entirely used to cover your service? Will you send out feeless low priority transactions too? Good luck with your migration and don't overwork yourself! It is definitely not worth risking your health for anything! We pay the networks transaction fees so as to get a faster servce, that's mainly what the fee is for, we don't do low priority fees(or whatever...yet). Also some HAPPY HAPPY NEWS!!!! Ladies and Gentlemen we are LIVE!!! Our new server code it up and running and kicking! OK like I said it looks the same more or less, but this is only the start. After I get some sleep I'll be able to easily add all those nice features I mentioned in the first post, most of which are already in glibse, the new command line client. Get it here https://gitorious.org/glibseSadly the old command line client isn't working, but I'll update it tomorrow. If anyone is having issues with the web client, please clear your browser cache and reload the page. So I can now say, yes please use GLBSE as a web wallet, use it to make instant fee free person to person payments. It's fast, it's secure, and safe. And now off to bed, my marathon is over.
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Well I've just stayed up all night to get the new version of GLBSE rolled out, I can't speak, and there is a think yellow oooze dripping from my ear so...
Coolness. Any interesting new features? Do you have a GLBSE-related twitter account other than https://twitter.com/GLBSE (which is just auto-pumped with trade data)? I would be interested in hearing even one-liner updates about GLBSE, that don't necessarily warrant a blog post. Also, do you have a Google+ account I could follow? Have a look at the bottom of glbse.com, you'll see the link to our twitter feed and blog. New features being faster developement time, but the immediate one is going to be better transaction records for users to see. Following that there is direct account to account bitcoin transfer, escrow and others. Nefario.
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P.S. Have you been killed? Since when are you a zombie?
Well I've just stayed up all night to get the new version of GLBSE rolled out, I can't speak, and there is a think yellow oooze dripping from my ear so...
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Well it really depends on what you want to do with the company and what you want to use the shares for.
You say that you're not too interested in scheduled dividend payments, fine don't mention them. You could say dividend payments MAY be made at the discression of management.
You want it as a way to include co-founders or partners in on the ownership of the business, then state that each share also owns a portion of all companies assets.
In general you just want to include what you want the shares to do, thats about it really.
Zombie Nefario.
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Remote testing with current copy of the database has passed, not final testing with a live bitcoind (and we should see some twitter posts also as a result).
Following this we prepare to go live.
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Will there still be the .01 btc withdrawl fee, or are you lowering it to .0005? Is the minimum withdrawl size still in effect?
Withdrawl fee will be 0.001, min withdrawl being 0.5btc, thats reasonable right? So the story is we're on phase 2 of testing, that is remote testing with fresh database. Next step will be remote testing with current database copy. Final step of testing will be with current database copy and a live bitcoind to work with. Once it's passed all the tests for those steps then I'll migrate, although apart from the lower fees you won't notice any difference until I add some features to the web client (glibse already has new records feature). Testing the shit out of this mother before going live. Oh current round of testing passed, next round starting (fingers crossed).
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2) We will have direct, instant, account to account bitcoin transfer
Will there be any fees incurred on transferring bitcoins between accounts? (since the btc aren't exactly leaving the exchange) The rest is awesome, GLBSE sounds like it is going great places, and will attract some more start ups, IPOs, and mining contracts. Maybe one day you will even get a legitimate Corporation All I gotta do is scare cuddlefish into coming back <3 and keep Tawsix in line, then everything will be fine. No no, there won't be any fees for direct bitcoin or asset transfers, you'll only pay a fee when you use the market to trade (right now though there are no fees). Something I forgot to mention is that I'll also be introducing asset and bitcoin escrow (very simple versions at first), and bitcoin laundry (again simple at first). I'm still working on things and promise to have this up and running before going to sleep. Nefario.
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No, you'll all be scammed, muhahahahahaha! Just kidding, yes, tomorrow I'll wrap the whole thing up and pay out the remaining 281.06 + 1.32 = 282.38 BTC to the shareholders. If you want a part of this dividend, you better hurry and BUY BUY BUY. Hopefully everything works out as planned, as Nefario seems to re-do big parts of GLBSE currently, but I'm confident that any issues can be resolved as quickly as in the past. There won't be any issues, I've done enough testing with this basy that I can get FDA approval(fingers crossed), but don't worry as centimine said any issues and I'll be all over it. On a slightly related note, I could like to thank centimine for the work that was put into this share and for being one of the early adopters of the exchange, I think that at the time it was a bold step to take. Nefario
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*pats nefario on the back. Thanks for battling through the ear infection mate.
We are still looking for a video producer to make some howto videos for glbse.
I believe once nefario has finished glbse will be the place to trade bitcoin and bitcoin companies.
The battle is not yet won, and I've not got anything else better to do. Also GLBSE's never really going to be finished, there's always going to be something else to add to it. But we'll have the basics doen soon enough.
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