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1701  Economy / Services / Re: [Primedice] Affiliate Program: Passively earn 20% of house edge on: August 24, 2014, 07:30:05 AM
Anyone actually making money on this?

From what I've seen so far, people are either making very large amounts or very little, not much in between.
1702  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: August 23, 2014, 06:43:46 PM
Quick heads up, if you Pm'd me earlier for last term payment I'll be going through those later when I have wallet access.


Also, once again if you aren't on this list you will not get paid next term:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387.msg8477461#msg8477461
1703  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Primedice is cheating on: August 23, 2014, 06:18:14 PM
[...] will talk more with the devs in an attempt to fix this as it is a known problem that the verification page on their site is in need of a serious redo.

The verification script on PD was fixed several days ago now. You just need to re-copy it into your verifier.

Thank you OP, I will be sure to stay away from this scam company and suggest everyone else to do so as well.

Except OP has been discredited. The rolls are fair, and provably so.

If the site was using different algorithm than the shown one, I called it cheating, at least not 100% fair.

What if it is "slightly outdated" again? It's totally unfair to every player.

It was never using a different algorithm, the sample verify script on the verify page was just incorrect for a few days and corrected. As many intelligent forum users who understand provably fair have noted:

Primedice is not cheating. I talked to them a few days ago with the same concern, and attempted to change my verifier to work with their system. I might have broke something in the process. The problem is with handling a small number of rolls that go above a certain number initially and need to use a different part of the hash. I will be updating my verifier page to reflect this and will talk more with the devs in an attempt to fix this as it is a known problem that the verification page on their site is in need of a serious redo.

I would trust PD with my money still, and this problem was initially brought up by me after losing a roll. They have not lost any trust in my eyes and should not in yours either, so please hold off on the accusations until I can get my verifier sorted out and they get their verification page sorted out.

It is correct that it's pretty bad for them to have an out-of-date verification page, but it's a new site and it's gonna have it's kinks.

I am in no way affiliated with primedice and everything expressed here is my opinion.

EDIT: Just updated the page, it SHOULD be correct now. If it is still displaying incorrect rolls, please contact me.

[...] will talk more with the devs in an attempt to fix this as it is a known problem that the verification page on their site is in need of a serious redo.

The verification script on PD was fixed several days ago now. You just need to re-copy it into your verifier.

Thank you OP, I will be sure to stay away from this scam company and suggest everyone else to do so as well.

Except OP has been discredited. The rolls are fair, and provably so.


No longer interested in replying to this, It is mathematically provable that PD does not cheat.  I'm pretty sure if I bought coinfist a pair of dice and asked him to generate his own rolls he'd still claim we were somehow cheating him.
1704  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 23, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
Big question.

Is banking allowed or NO.

I have been telling people past days that it is allowed, until you play with it.

!! I want to know the real answer !!

Basically most of us want to know.

It's fine now that we've raised min tip.
1705  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 23, 2014, 05:24:31 AM
Good to see PvP starting to get some big players! Have seen many larger bets lately!



Edit: Edward decided to take Stars up on some bets after AKCoinMiner decided to bet against website













Stars ended up +2.5 BTC.
1706  Economy / Services / Re: [Primedice] Affiliate Program: Passively earn 20% of house edge on: August 23, 2014, 05:15:41 AM
The max you can get is 20% ?

Currently yes, and I've boosted all users who filled out the form as of a few hours ago.
1707  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 23, 2014, 04:40:38 AM
AKCoinMiner back at it again.



From -9 BTC to +13 BTC in 24 hours. Good stuff
1708  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 23, 2014, 03:46:12 AM
Seems like PD is down.

"Loading the world's most popular
Bitcoin gambling website..."

The server isn't totally down, but PD3 does not load. I've been busy all day and finally have some free time, so I hope they can fix it soon.  Smiley

Is this still persisting?
1709  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 22, 2014, 08:32:34 PM
Stunna or MICRO or anybody else, could you please explain the 0.91% house edge to me. I don't get it.
The chances to win are the same as on e.g. dicebitco.in. They have a house edge of 1%

Something doesn't seem right Huh

The jackpot from rolling a 77.77 lowers the house edge to .91%.


With regards to sickhouse, I've explained that the referral counter isn't accurate right now. We'll work on fixing that up soon, the table will be representative of your affiliates.
1710  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 22, 2014, 06:44:21 PM
For me everything's been fine, other than two things. The first is autobet speed, it kills me how slow it normally is. Second, for affiliates, I have 14 legitimate referrals, but it only shows 6? What's up with that?

I think the counter just isn't accurate, I'll discuss this with our developers later.

I just want to know, do you think I would have 14, or 6 refs?

The number you see listed by individual name in the table should be the proper amount.
1711  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 4000+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: August 22, 2014, 06:36:20 PM
I'm not trying to accuse dicebitco of anything as they are possibly legitimate, but in my opinion pretty much every major scam in bitcoin has occurred when the amount at stake becomes greater than the reputation. Can anyone firmly argue that dicebitco.in has proven themselves trustworthy to handle well over $2M in bitcoin, I don't think anyone would agree with that if weighing the facts alone. The only facts we have is that they ran a litecoin gambling site which had relative success but pales in comparison to the current site they are running and also the fact that dooglus has a small amount invested.  

While it's probably true that they didn't prove themselves trustworthy with such a sum, how could they? Presumably only by previously having had such a sum, and returned it. To build trust, you have to be trusted beyond the point you have previously been trusted, and show that such trust was well founded.

When I started running Just-Dice, all people knew about me was that I had been posting stats about SatoshiDice for a year or so on a daily basis (which presumably says more about my mental health than my trustworthiness, since it didn't involve me holding any coins at all) and that I had refunded something like 1700 BTC (worth ~$5 to ~$100 each) from a failed exchange when I could have just kept the coins. So I had shown myself to be trustworthy for around $170k worth of BTC.

Within a week of running Just-Dice people had thrown way more than that at me, hence my doubt about why people were trusting me so much. At the peak I was holding over 50 million dollars' worth of other people's coins. There's no way I had proven that I was trustworthy enough for such a sum (other than by not running at 10, 20, 30, or 40 million dollars worth - but the running joke was always "he's wanting for (n+1) million before he buys his island").

The way I see it, investing in dice sites is a risky business, and everyone needs to take all the risks into account when deciding whether to get involved:

* the house may legitimately lose coins to a big player
* the house may play against them selves and cheat to win investor coins
* the house may just shut down and run off with the coins

The first of these is at least quantifiable using math. The other two are big unknowns (unless you are the house) and so that's where the real risk comes in.

I do have some doubts with this site as I did with Everydice.

Did you see this post? Apparently they're refunding investors:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=476334.msg8451076#msg8451076


Fair enough, I don't see why they wouldn't agree to at least multisig the investments though when you kindly offered. If I was in their position I would have done that without hesitation as it would have been a major boost to investments.

I guess I understand that they are hoping to stand on their own, hopefully this will end well.



I've dealt with the owners of dicebitcoin for 6 months now with advertising and what not.



and ii have to say they are one of the few people i trust.


I think dicebitcoin will be the leader in bitcoin dice and will have $10 million invested soon.


I wonder how much primedice profit is? we will never know....

It isn't really important for private companies to disclose their profit, if someone was so inclined they could probably find my coins.

Also, the issue isn't that they are untrustworthy. I had never made that claim I was rather just bringing light to the fact that maybe it is a bit risky to be trusting new forum members with $2M+. I'm sure you trust them but would you trust them personally with $2M of your own money? I've known people in real life for many years who I'd have trouble trusting with that amount of money.
1712  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 22, 2014, 06:19:40 PM
For me everything's been fine, other than two things. The first is autobet speed, it kills me how slow it normally is. Second, for affiliates, I have 14 legitimate referrals, but it only shows 6? What's up with that?

I think the counter just isn't accurate, I'll discuss this with our developers later.
1713  Economy / Services / Re: [Primedice] Affiliate Program: Passively earn 20% of house edge on: August 22, 2014, 06:13:11 PM
Will start applying boosts now, I will do this once every few days.
1714  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: August 22, 2014, 05:52:15 PM
This casino does not pay for advertising, and therefore does not value reputation. Changed the rules, and about 50 posts were not paid at all. Letter to the personal messages have been ignored. Do not do business with them and do not play at their desks

If the case is settled remove the bad review.

I still was making an effort to pay people who made under 50 posts even though I don't have to. If you PM me once every 2 days eventually I'll get back to you. It's just very hard to even use bitcointalk currently as my PM box is just exploding on a daily basis with mostly tedious issues regarding this campaign.

It's just very challenging because the majority of PM's I'm getting are from people who did not know the payout form existed and don't remember any of their info such as posting count either.


EDIT: In your situation I never even said no. If you want me to help you out you need to be more specific as well, don't PM me "how is my payment coming along" or "can you do my payment" give me a post count, address etc.



Everyone please make sure you've checked this list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387.msg8477461#msg8477461

If you are not on that list, you are not apart of the campaign and will not be paid.
1715  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 22, 2014, 05:48:06 PM
haizz Lag and down

Waiting for dev to come take a look, also with regards to the tip raising I think it isn't a bad change. It prevents faucet abuse and also makes tips much more significant. The goal of the faucet is to provide funds to players to test out the site or rewards a few times a day, not to be methodically farmed 24/7 which seems to widely be the case.

 My eventual goal is to replace the faucet with a minigame which will provide much larger rewards 2-3x a day rather than each minute.

Is there any similar bounty for finding way to abuse faucet like there is for bugs? Cheesy
Because I know how it is still easy to abuse.

We're already aware of all the methods people use to abuse it. It isn't easy to patch them as a lot of the methods are features core to the site. We'll probably just roll back people to level zero who we continue to abuse.
1716  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 22, 2014, 05:27:43 PM
haizz Lag and down

Waiting for dev to come take a look, also with regards to the tip raising I think it isn't a bad change. It prevents faucet abuse and also makes tips much more significant. The goal of the faucet is to provide funds to players to test out the site or rewards a few times a day, not to be methodically farmed 24/7 which seems to widely be the case.

 My eventual goal is to replace the faucet with a minigame which will provide much larger rewards 2-3x a day rather than each minute.


EDIT: Site is back already, it is being a bit unstable though.
1717  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Legititmate No Deposit Bonus Bitcoin Casino? on: August 22, 2014, 09:51:42 AM
Primedice offers a free faucet every minute. No deposit required. It is also the highest paying faucet in the Bitcoin community Smiley

I normally don't post on threads like this but just like to remind everyone that you don't always have to deposit to enjoy a chance at making money gambling!
1718  Economy / Gambling / Re: Listing Betting Sites Total # Of Bets (Updated Daily)+++Dice INVEST page+++ on: August 22, 2014, 09:22:33 AM





TOP BTC DICE INVEST SITE UPDATED


http://cryptobettingindex.com/dice-invest/

Does it not seem very unreal that pretty much every site is well below its expected profit?

Please be wary of investing in these sites. I find it absurd that anonymous, unknown people in the Bitcoin world are being trusted with 100's, if not 1000's of Bitcoins.

With that being said I'm making NO accusations, but I've always been an avid believer in staying away from sites like this since scenario's like EveryDice occurred.

Once again thank you for this great service as well, Omaha Smiley
1719  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 22, 2014, 08:52:13 AM
Great idea.

We'll soon bring minimum tip back down to 10k satoshi's, but make it you need at least 50k satoshi's to tip. This will be the same with PvP - You will need a minimum of 50k satoshi's to play PvP. As people are also using this to abuse faucet Smiley

Thanks
1720  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular Bitcoin Game| 0.91% Edge| PVP | Jackpot | Faucet on: August 22, 2014, 05:58:26 AM
Another whale just rocked up raking in a solid 14 BTC with 2 very lucky 5 BTC wins.

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