Buy condoms and bitcoins at the same time. Nice.
..now what would you possibly need this combination for, then? ;-) Ente |
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The example used is a Distrubted DNS, it could be used for that, or any time you wanted to register any other type of data in exchange for bitcoin.
It is ideally suited to the registration of publicly verifiable, yet still private/anonymous ownership of, any data you wanted.
..Like Namecoin, for example, but with its blockchain interwoven with the Bitcoin blockchain? And more general altogether, so for other projects besides Namebitcoin too..? Sounds great! Now, that we have the technology, what will be the killerapp? :-) *somewhat reminded of Bitcoin as a whole* Ente |
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Sidechain?
Uhm.. like.. transferring bitcoin outside the blockchain, i.e. anonymously?
I don't fully get your proposal, I fear.
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Ist ja ganz nett, allerdings aber auch hirnrissig. Da versucht man das Geld digital zu machen und am Ende drucken sich die Leute das Geld doch wieder aus.  ..und was passiert, wenn man "normalen" (aka non-geek) Leuten etwas von PKI, Hash, Signaturen erzählt? Genau. Und was passiert, wenn man ihnen etwas von Pizza, Alpaka-Socken, Burgern und KondomBitcoinautomaten erzählt? Genau. Ente |
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The way in which the operator of TORwallet has partially compromised his identity confirms for me this entire approach is wrong; it's a mistake to trust a third party to protect your anonymity. Even when the owners of a mixing service have the best intentions they can make mistakes and if they can be located they can be threatened.
I don't know enough about cryptography to say how (or if) it can be accomplished but mixing coins needs to be done in a way in such a way that it's not necessary to trust the mixing service.
If your security/anonymity needs are that high, Bitcoin may not be the right thing for you. You always leave a trail while aquiring bitcoin. Your IP will always be there at some point (if you don't trust TOR). The closest thing would be mining over TOR or something like this. In short, Bitcoin is well known to be pseudonymous, so you might instead use a centrally managed system (only one instance to trust) or better yet, some offline commodity (where you trust your partner). No free lunch once you become paranoid enough ;-) I still say TORWallet comes close to the most trustworthy tumbler, in terms of anonymity (not in terms of "noone runs away with your coins" necessarily though). Which doesnt say you shouldn't cascade several services and tumblers. Ente This is not always true... there are ways to take precautions if one so desires. There is a reason BTC is used on the black market. I, personally, feel secure enough with my way of handling bitcoin for the things I do with them. Which involves trusting various companies, services, exchanges and so on. What I tried to say, is, you will quickly find limits in the usefulness of Bitcoin when you don't trust absolutely nobody.. Which, as a mind experiment, I enjoy, but not for (my) real-world applications. Once you start calculating risks, thus accepting risks, things become much more reasonable. Like trusting the integrity of the TOR network, for example. Ente |
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The way in which the operator of TORwallet has partially compromised his identity confirms for me this entire approach is wrong; it's a mistake to trust a third party to protect your anonymity. Even when the owners of a mixing service have the best intentions they can make mistakes and if they can be located they can be threatened.
I don't know enough about cryptography to say how (or if) it can be accomplished but mixing coins needs to be done in a way in such a way that it's not necessary to trust the mixing service.
If your security/anonymity needs are that high, Bitcoin may not be the right thing for you. You always leave a trail while aquiring bitcoin. Your IP will always be there at some point (if you don't trust TOR). The closest thing would be mining over TOR or something like this. In short, Bitcoin is well known to be pseudonymous, so you might instead use a centrally managed system (only one instance to trust) or better yet, some offline commodity (where you trust your partner). No free lunch once you become paranoid enough ;-) I still say TORWallet comes close to the most trustworthy tumbler, in terms of anonymity (not in terms of "noone runs away with your coins" necessarily though). Which doesnt say you shouldn't cascade several services and tumblers. Ente |
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I contacted them. Myself, Charlie, and Erik from Bitinstant will likely attend.
John, Thank you for notifying us.
Sweet! :-D Ente |
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Wow, seriously guys, I thought I was paranoid!
I am impressed, keep up the good work!
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Well, the problem is not if BFL should refund BTC or USD.
They don't refund anything, although they already promised. Barracuda wants his money back, that simple. It is not about profit or risen exchange rates, he simply wants his money back.
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So freakin much potential win!
Get the gamers on board, and have one huge network effect make Bitcoin a lot more known!
I hope it will be a blast, we have enough good people here to send to Macau :-)
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You guys must be kidding!
BFL promised a refund, but plays dead man for weeks?
Waiting for 30k$? "Baww thread"? Seriously?
For me, the (non-) performing of BFL is a(nother) red flag.
There is way too much money in the game for my taste (2k paid preorders? Non-refundable?). I don't say BFL is doing anything sinister. But I, personally, don't see enough reason and security to trust them with substantial money at these conditions, and with these experiences users are having..
YMMV
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I guess the price wouldn't be $16 right now if a major bug had been found. Trouble is, if he ever does find a major bug in the future, no one will believe him.
sorry to resurrect a dead thread, but did anything ever come of this?
I didn't want to say anything because it conflicts with what i'm about to say...
quit bumping an old thread
i didn't realize this was a year old till i saw the $10 - $15 price comment
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Agreed, the "Bitcoins" could be changed to "Bitcoin". We will keep that in mind for the next revision.
Thank you!
Actually, to totally go overboard: Some days ago I read the system is called "Bitcoin", the currency is called "bitcoin".  Ente Yes the system's name is Bitcoin, the unit of account are bitcoins or a bitcoin(singular). I am somewhat convinced bitcoin are uncountable and shall always be written in singular? Just like other currencies as well.. /topic derail Ente |
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Agreed, the "Bitcoins" could be changed to "Bitcoin". We will keep that in mind for the next revision.
Thank you!
Actually, to totally go overboard: Some days ago I read the system is called "Bitcoin", the currency is called "bitcoin". Ente |
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2012-07-07 09:29:47.581000 > Worker q6600 @ 127.0.0.1 submitted share more than once!
2012-07-07 09:29:47.897000 > Worker miner1 @ 192.168.0.110 submitted share more than once!
2012-07-07 09:29:49.355000 > Worker miner1 @ 192.168.0.110 submitted share more than once!
2012-07-07 09:29:50.915000 > Worker miner1 @ 192.168.0.110 submitted share more than once!
2012-07-07 09:29:51.948000 > Worker miner1 @ 192.168.0.110 submitted share more than once!
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I have this problem too and I've been doing some counting. The number as of now: accepted:29732 duplicates:2330 rejected:426. That is 7-8% duplicate shares of the total and the actual submitted good shares are only 91%. What if.. those are the missing 10% we see globally on the p2pool stats? Ente |
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Hallo zusammen,
zum ende hin hat sich dann doch niemand gefunden, mit dem wir uns geeinigt hätten.
Damit bleiben die Rechner bis auf weiteres bei meinem Freund, und minen wie gehabt weiter.
Danke für Anfragen und Angebote!
Liebe Grüße,
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Andererseits bedarf es persönlicher Reife, sich für einen faux pas zu entschuldigen.
:-)
Liebe Grüße,
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Hi Ente,
hm, ich kenne Ziggi nicht persönlich und bin auch nicht verwand mit Ihm, aber meine bissherigen Kontakte mit Ihm waren ausnahmslos sehr gut und zuverlässig. Schnelle Reaktion, netter Kontakt und wenn es Fragen gab wurden die sachlich und zügig geklärt.
Versteh mich nicht falsch, ich will deine Meinung nicht in Frage stellen und weder positiv noch negativ bewerten.
Aber dein Zitat sollte man dann im Zusammenhang des Diskusionsverlaufs sehen. Was da an Behauptungen (nur von einem User) kam, grenzte m. E. schon an Verleumdung. Ich hätte da ganz anders reagiert.
Ich will hier aber niemanden zu etwas verleiten.Nach wie vor sollte allen klar sein, dass das Internet eine unsichere Sache ist. Kopf einschalten und mit Bedacht vorgehen hilft am meisten vor Schaden.
Grüße, Bernd
Das stelle ich gar nicht in Abrede. Aber wer (in seinem eigenen Verkaufsthread!) wie ein 14jähriger austickt, zeigt für mich so wenig geistige Reife, dass ich keine potentiell riskanten Geldgeschäfte mit ihm machen werde. Sollte er älter als 14 sein, ist dies nur noch ein schlechteres Zeichen. Wie reagiert eine so labile/unreife Person, wenn es mal wirklich Herausforderungen gibt, wenn mal handfeste Dinge einvernehmlich geklärt werden müssen? Ohne mich. Auch wenn einzelne "persönliche" Kontakte gut verlaufen sind. Ente |
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wenn mich im späteren verlauf einer abzieht kommt von dir h... sicher noch der spruch selber schuld was.
troll meinen Thread nicht und ornaniere ein wenig um runter zu kommen.
mfg
ZiGGi
Danke. Damit hast du dich schon mit deinem vierten Post für jegliche Geschäftsbeziehung disqualifiziert. Das spart mir eine Menge Zeit, prima! Ente |
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