The other thing I'm watching is whether any small retailers use steemit as a store front so they can compete with amazon's ease of use--have yet to see it.
Can you give me some of what you are smoking? No chance in hell of what you are fantasizing about. I forget the name, but you can order in on Alpha Bay. Anyways, I didn't that it would happen only that I was watching for it--and it does make sense for small retailers--though it depends on steemit's growth, which depends on managements ability to groom stable communities within the platform--which doesn't seem to be happening (though it still could). |
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This is a salient example of how Steem's voting algorithm is preventing it from incentivizing any content which doesn't jive with the existing demographics of Steem: https://steemit.com/travel/@chhaylin/the-steemit-couple-representing-steemit-in-florence-italy-in-our-travel-blogThere is no way that blog post is worth $6000. He is riding on the appreciation of his prior two blog posts about philosophy and that highly intellectual whales (e.g. @smooth, @complexring, @berniesanders) like him because he writes intellectual blog posts. But this one was not. It was some monkey-see-monkey-do travel story of which there are many copies already on Steem. It is impossible for new demographics to form on Steem, because they get discouraged and leave due to the fact that only those who jibe with the existing whales will find enough rewards to make it worth continuing. P.S. @complexring does not explain math very well for laymen: https://steemit.com/mathematics/@complexring/the-mathematics-of-fractional-reserve-bankingEverything he wrote there will fly right over most everyone's head. I am confident I could do a much better job elucidating that math point. I don't see the point of ranking that so highly when the masses will just get turned off by that content. Edit: Steem is really scraping the bottom of the barrel now by rewarding $4000 for this piece-of-crap: https://steemit.com/life/@fairytalelife/it-happened-on-the-road-to-steemit-nirvanaI think community self moderation fixes this--does it develop? Who knows? The other thing I'm watching is whether any small retailers use steemit as a store front so they can compete with amazon's ease of use--have yet to see it. Unless the Medici are making the content decisions via large stake, you'll have poor man's taste layered onto a rich man's toy. We'll see.... |
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Yea, as I had already stated on my reply in that thread, someone has to bear the cost of all these actions, so posting a main topic should likely require a fee, while comments don't, but comments get culled/pruned off the chain eventually.
The only problem i see in a fee to post is that it might be a too great hurdle for newcomers except you give out free money on signup - but that again would help and not fight spammers (atleast initialy). Never underestimate the Larimer. He probably already knows this and will just do it after he already on-boards all the users. He probably knew it was a hard sell to do it in the beginning. This is not a problem you solve resource free. You know as well as I do that the Larimer Gang and their associates don't care about long-term sustainability. They only care about creating a short-term cash cow to enrich themselves at the expense of the naive who fall for their schemes. Words have interesting roots. |
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Then create a decentralized version already--I doubt you're gonna argue them into a new design. A decentralized and uncensored content platform is something we all should get behind.
So you admit you were wrong telling me (and others) we have no chance to compete with Steem? Please in the future realize that I may be thinking of details that you are not. Hey no animosity intended. Just a little bit of mutual respect desired. That is not what I said or implied: I believe a decentralized and uncensored platform would be openbazzar to steemit's amazon (hopefully that can't be misread). |
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Is the content removed from the blockchain? If it all stays, can't someone create steemit uncensored? Did you read the linked debate? My entire point is that Dan, Ned, and Steemit Inc. hypothetically can be sued to censor the blockchain itself. They have enough stake to choose the 19 witnesses. And it is illegal to fork Steem. Checkmate. Lol, "19 witnesses" sounds like a biblical story. Then create a decentralized version already--I doubt you're gonna argue them into a new design. A decentralized and uncensored content platform is something we all should get behind. And likely good for steem--without the threat of a decentralized, opensource, uncensored platform, TPTB have no reason not to attack the only game in town and replace it with a game more to their liking. |
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Is the content removed from the blockchain? If it all stays, can't someone create steemit uncensored? |
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webrary
I think that name is sufficient although maybe not the most pizazz. Storing everything in a library for the web. I think it implies you want to get in early and grow with it, such as those who got into Bitcoin early. It seems to also to be more conservative thus separation of impression from the name Steemit and quadratic voting rewards ($40,000 for a single blog while most get only pennies) which seems to be more about hype than a steady, methodical growth plan. If anyone c an suggest a better name or if I think of better one later, then great. I would suggest you think more academia and politics, and less commercial. I'd buy into a project that's trying to create a private and decentralized content sharing platform--I wouldn't buy into steemit 2.0. It exists and they already have me and a few others rooting them on because of the rewards they dole out (except for maybe you  ) , their brand has loyalty rewards built into it. |
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Edit3: a sharing network is like a bee 'hive', or 'colony'
I had been playing with the word 'hive', as it is short and energetic. Other words: silo chi laud (claud) mojo realm rhizome
New word for me. Thanks. Sounds like something related to the genome. The Rhizome Project |
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Voting or Synereo, excited to see their alpha product in September!
It's funny to see a lot of the guys which were smart enough to get involved in NXT in the beginning are also getting involved in Synereo. September--can't wait.... |
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Feedback on the following name idea?
peerbrary
peerbase
I am visualizing all media content and even games/apps going here, not just blogs. It is our collective blockchain database which nobody owns.
I am not sure if the above names will ring with any meaning for the masses, but neither did 'blog' when it was first coined. It is important to select a name that over time it becomes very distinct from copycats. And over time users come to associate the name with something of importance.
Although there are some aspects of the above names I don't think are ideal (e.g. they don't really illicit an emotional reaction, unless one is really excited about the concept they intend), I do like that they seem (for me at least) to be congruent with the thought of investing long-term in building a trove of content and media that is owned collectively by no one.
Users are coming for a combination of inspirations:
1. Nobody owns the content. The users own the site.
2. Instead of the money going to Facebook, they can gift this money (love) to each other by interacting and upvoting good content.
3. They can contribute content and maybe it even becomes a vocation.
I like the meaning of 'peer', but maybe use something different like 'tribe' or 'collective' or 'commune'. Dojo is another good word that evokes a good image in my mind of lots of people joining together to work towards private, but related goals, around self improvement and sharing. Another good word to base things around is 'expression'. Edit: I also think made up words, or totally unrelated words can work well too, like 'onfinity' or 'zenith' or 'areeba' Edit2: could always be cheeky and go with 'tangle', although the IOTArians might be pissed off Edit3: a sharing network is like a bee 'hive', or 'colony' Edit 4: a smorgasbord, 'buffet' rhizome http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=rhizome&allowed_in_frame=0 (using Delueze's sense of the word would probably give you the truest sense of the word and its modern implications). |
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Sexit would be direct and easy to remember name.
Phokit  "I'll take Trebek for 1000." |
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Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")
Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.
I agree that will be one of the motivations (even if they don't realize it). But they also rationalize it to themselves per what they told me (not an allegation against the 3 who were kind enough to feedback toh me), so a name which supports their rationalization, might help? I don't think we want to name it "Iamforsale.com". Even "steem" is supporting the rationalization that we are giving "esteem" (love). Women are for sale always in every day life (and I am not trying to be a sexist jerk by agreeing with you) if the offered amount is high enough (then again so are men), but we name businesses on their primary function, not on the game theories that happen there (e.g. in Starbucks). Hamlet figured it out: "I have heard of your paintings too, well enough. God has given you one face and you make yourselves another. You jig and amble, and you lisp, you nickname God’s creatures and make your wantonness your ignorance." Though I'm not sure why Hamlet's so mad for women gaming men, when he's gaming Shakespeare throughout the play (not going to go further into Bloom's theory, which I mostly agree with), but as far as a name..... Steemit might be a cross of steam and reddit, so maybe cross facebook and imgur for imbook or facegur? *those names aren't actual suggestions, but what I would suggest is locking the intropage, so it can permanently earn rewards and serve as a base from which you can network traffic out and in. Men are gaming women also. And men are also for sale at the right price. I don't really get the relevance. Steam is a gaming platform. Reddit is a discussion site. Steemit seems to be neither of those. Steam delivers content, reddit forums--so the link is there. As for men who hustle--they're a rare breed and women love/hate them for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Yv6J6VzywThis is sparknote version, the film Alphie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375173/ would be the longer course, though it doesn't nail the darker aspects as well as Salvat's video. But back on topic.... Name? Anything involving sex is too obvious, unless you are creating a decentralized porn, cam, escort site that is resistant to corporate/government interest--as I'm sure they won't want their sacred cow delving into unholy places. Why is no one building this? Sexit would be direct and easy to remember name. |
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Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")
Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.
I agree that will be one of the motivations (even if they don't realize it). But they also rationalize it to themselves per what they told me (not an allegation against the 3 who were kind enough to feedback toh me), so a name which supports their rationalization, might help? I don't think we want to name it "Iamforsale.com". Even "steem" is supporting the rationalization that we are giving "esteem" (love). Women are for sale always in every day life, but we name businesses on their primary function, not on the game theories that happen there (e.g. in Starbucks). Hamlet figured it out: "I have heard of your paintings too, well enough. God has given you one face and you make yourselves another. You jig and amble, and you lisp, you nickname God’s creatures and make your wantonness your ignorance." Though I'm not sure why Hamlet's so mad for women gaming men, when he's gaming Shakespeare throughout the play (not going to go further into Bloom's theory, which I mostly agree with), but as far as a name..... Steemit might be a cross of steam and reddit, so maybe cross facebook and imgur for imbook or facegur? *those names aren't actual suggestions, but what I would suggest is locking the intropage, so it can permanently earn rewards and serve as a base from which you can network traffic out and in. |
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Explanation of why women join steem (though they might not tell you--who'd of thunk? Women hiding their motives? "Wat? That never happens!")
Either a sexy post can glean them money from a complete stranger, OR a nice wholesome post can glean them money from the guy at the starbucks that's always chatting them up and thinks he's in love with her.
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generalizethis, watch and learn.
There are fundamental flaws in Steem.
enumerate: *my point [in other thread?] was you might have greater flaws in the decentralized version (it would have to be much more sophisticated than openbazzar to keep everything in check). I believe there are economic flaws in Steemit that will cause it to collapse. I want to have something ready when it does. It isn't just about decentralization, nor any one thing. I see several huge flaws in Steem that I think (my opinion) will prevent it from accomplishing what you think it is going to accomplish. We will see who is correct. I am not omniscient and neither are you. Nature provides competition so that the outcome is resilient. Nature rarely puts all its eggs in one egg. One shot miracles are rare beasts. There are many issues you are not aware of. And I am not going to explain all my thoughts now, any more than I already did in the numerous posts over the past few days. That is enough talk for now. I'd like to read what others think about naming and concepts such as what users need and want. That's fair enough (reading strategy as a black-swan reverse stock split). |
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generalizethis, watch and learn.
There are fundamental flaws in Steem.
enumerate: *my point [in other thread?] was you might have greater flaws in the decentralized version (it would have to be much more sophisticated than openbazzar to keep everything in check). |
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Steem just opened up a successful front that entices people to open up their first CC account, and you're like, "Hey, that's working! Let's try to minimize its effectiveness with another project, but this time will make it extra decentralized so varying factions can quibble on the most effective means to spend their marketing budget (or not spend any of it with chants of "HODL!"). It took me awhile to see why steem's distribution makes sense (or more sense), but when I did  could you explain to us? because i dont see it... right now a few whales control the platform and generally they only upvote sh*t post(i'm not saying one o mine should be upvoted, i'm saying i've saw good writers there getting 50+ upvotes but only a few bucks for that, and other posts, with less than 10 upvotes being paid 1000USD+) one vote from ned and you get 1500+ SBD. that doesnt make sense to me. It's not about good writing (most people rarely even understand great writing, so intimidating noobs away is hardly a good idea--see Nietzsche). What you want is fun posts that invite people in and get them thinking, "I can do that?" You also want post that further implant the meme of cryptocurrencies into the social consciousness (see gateway drugs), and you want established players in content creation to prove that the platform works. And finally, you want to represent different clicks of ethnic, social, and cultural backgrounds. *a few BOOBS don't hurt either. As far as the whale factor--you're going to see lag. What's important is that the big markets get addressed, not that quality content is rewarded, that will be addressed by sub-communities who will be better arbiters of what is good for the community and what is quality--see poetry section (a poem that used a double "that" final end-rhyme got the highest payout of $2,700, a reputable poetry forum wouldn't let that happen--but that takes time.). If you look at the financial and cryptocurrency sections, you'll see that the quality, for the most part, is superior than the other sections, mostly because we have a community already established in cc and hundreds of articles waiting to be discovered by people outside our community. |
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Steem just opened up a successful front that entices people to open up their first CC account, and you're like, "Hey, that's working! Let's try to minimize its effectiveness with another project, but this time we'll make it extra decentralized so varying factions can quibble on the most effective means to spend their marketing budget (or not spend any of it with chants of "HODL!")". It took me awhile to see why steem's distribution makes sense (or more sense), but when I did |
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