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1921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: October 10, 2023, 01:07:16 PM
Manchester United didn't get along with Ten Hag. Ten Hag actually made the decision that affected Ronaldo's career. If I remember correctly, Ten Hag didn't want him in the team when he was going to continue playing. Maybe this is one of the biggest mistakes he made. If Ronaldo had stayed in the team, he could have been a big brother to the young players and contributed to their development. If Ten Hag doesn't get the team together soon, there is no way they won't be eliminated from the Champions League.

Even for me it was an error since they signed him up and with Ronaldo despite being not that young anymore still United I am sure would have done better than it has done so far.Ten Haag came here with a iron fist as they say and the first thing he did was to keep Cristiano at the bench meanwhile he started the season with a humiliating defeat 0-4 against Brighton as his first game,that says a lot if you like me believe that saying "First impression is the last impression" and as such I had no expectations of him doing any good,he did not do good in Champions League nor in Europa League and he is not doing that good even during this actual season,so for me is time to sack him.
1922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: October 10, 2023, 12:42:25 PM




What do you think about the quotes?

Manchester City 1.73

Arsenal 5.00

Liverpool 6.50

Tottenham Hotspur 13.00

City, after the easiest stretch of 8 games, ended up in 3rd place, but at the same time is rated better than Arsenal, which is ahead.
A bit unfair.

Is that the outrights for winning the league?  I'd say the books got it right.  City's squad is deep and that will come into play when the other clubs start fading in the final stretch of the season.  Remember last year when everybody thought that Arsenal was gonna get the EPL trophy?  City just kept at it and won the League, the FA Cup and the UCL.  And if anything I'd say gamble on Klopp and Liverpool at that line.  They have the grit to push on through.  If they could get it together, they could win imho.

There is no reason why we should remember Arsenal as I think Arsenal underestimated their weak opponents during the last stage of the season and they are the first one for me to not repeat them this season at all cost.That is why no matter how deep the City squad is if any team beside Arsenal who is doing well does not underestimate their opponents I would say that the books got it completely wrong this time and I would bet on Arsenal as that 5 odd looks extremely good right now while why would anyone risk such a long season on a 1.73 odd for City I don't get it.
1923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If we lose in gambling, what do we need to do? on: October 10, 2023, 12:01:56 PM
Gambling is a place to spend money, although many gamblers consider casinos to be a place to earn money. But in reality, more gamblers lose their money at casinos or gambling sites. So I think all of us here probably have almost the same experience, namely losing a lot of money gambling

I also lost money because I lost on gambling, but maybe not that much. But I know there are people who spend a lot of money for gambling. In your opinion, what should we do if we have lost a lot of money on gambling? Do we keep gambling to win so we can cover up previous losses? or stop and work normally and leave gambling? Or do you have other suggestions?

If someone is able to leave gambling completely then this marvelous news for him as I agree most of us have similar experiences here all of them resorting to losing money,sometimes big money.If not it would be wise to set a small budget aside for every week or for the whole month and stick religiously to it no matter what happens.Of course sometimes the rage of the game will get us but if we set the budget most of the time we will be fine,this is at least my personal experience as I found out I could not leave gambling completely now I can control most of the money I throw into it.There is no middle way around here.
1924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: October 10, 2023, 11:33:59 AM
As the gambling industry is evolving, I think innovations would have kicked in that can make someone create a career from gambling. I do not know how this can be achieved but I feel it is possible.

Making gambling a full time job might be seen as risky but I still feel one can make gambling full time job and a career.

What do you all think?

Unless you have an unlimited budget which you can try different things and can keep track every day of your profit/loss ratio in a spreadsheet that you update everyday then no.I have worked in the early 2000-s in a casino and the people who claimed to have been doing a living out of sport betting back then,one was deep down in debt and the other got divorced,with this I want to say that I know real examples from my life that gambling can never be trusted as a reliable source of income or to make a career out of it.
1925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: October 10, 2023, 10:45:20 AM

What do you think about the quotes?

Manchester City 1.73

Arsenal 5.00

Liverpool 6.50

Tottenham Hotspur 13.00

City, after the easiest stretch of 8 games, ended up in 3rd place, but at the same time is rated better than Arsenal, which is ahead.
A bit unfair.

Lol at that 1.73 odd for City,what do the bookies think after they have failed miserably to win against Wolves and Arsenal did beat them in the head to head game.For me the most ideal team to bet on would be either Arsenal or either Liverpool which for me are the teams with most chances to win the Premier League season this time.

I know Tottenham has been doing really well too but they are not convincing and they lack the star players these other teams have which in the long run I am highly confident can make a difference and that is why I choose either Liverpool or Arsenal as the most likely winner of the Premier League.

If I remember correctly, before the start of the season when City’s hegemony was undisputed, City’s quotes were approximately 1.7 (or slightly less). Now, after KDB was injured and does not play, after City, after the easiest part of the championship, found themselves only in 3rd place, their quotes have fallen only quite a bit. This seems illogical to me. There are games ahead with direct competitors, and based on the logic of the bookmakers, what should be the odds, for example, for the game City - Liverpool? 1.5 - 3.5 - 6.4? LOL
If so then of course i will bet against City.

If those are the odds then it is logical to bet against them.They are showing signs of weakness in these last two games that they lost in a row and add to them their loss in the cup with Newcastle things does not look well for them.They are lucky that they have 2 weeks time because of International break during this week otherwise I don't know what would have happened next.

For Liverpool though I am quite a bit disappointed as they were winning against Brighton and could not hold up and if they cannot hold up against Brighton then most likely they cannot hold up against City.
1926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: October 10, 2023, 10:15:09 AM
How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?

Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?

Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?

Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?

Is anyone doing this on here?

Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?



That is plain stupid to say the least unless this friend of yours have a proven record of being good in poker or sport betting which are games that involves some sort of skill and are not 100% luck relevant.If someone is not good with these sports and wants to ask a financing to his God forbid slot session that is throwing money away.I have never done that and I would be very very reluctant before making such move if I will ever decide to back some sort of winner in poker or sport betting as I said and not in other games.It absolutely doesn't make any sense and as I said in most of the cases is money thrown away.
1927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It's a strategy to lose on: October 10, 2023, 09:45:49 AM
Gambling is based on luck for real but that doesn't mean you should be dividing your attention into poker, soccer, horse racing, or roulette all at once, you need to choose a side and learn everything you can about the game. This is the mistake that many gamblers are making, they believe since it's all about luck they should expand the possibility to get lucky and it always end up badly for them.

It's no doubt that Poker for example is all about been cunning, logical and deception to gain power over your opponent, it's called upper advantage, this is way different from games like Blackjack, roulette or Slots.

So imagine doing all these together, most gambling games needs your understanding of the odds and taking them into account, especially when wagering, so how can a gambler get involved in all games at once just to increase their chances of getting lucky? Stop this as it's not a strategy to win, it's a strategy to lose.

Most people know that and there are quite a few winners in poker that when they want to take a break they get into slot machines for example and they learn the hard way that is much different than playing poker as most of the times you lose money in these type of games.There are also people who are great at sport betting but that are also greedy as greediness is in our human nature and they get to play other luck games like roulette or dice when they want to "take a break" from sport betting.If you are involved in gambling no matter which strategy you use in the end you will be on the losing side.
1928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: October 10, 2023, 06:46:44 AM
Good day crypto Famz, I will like to ask gamblers this question, is there any gamblers on here that keeps record of their wins and losses? Do you keep a record of all the pennies you use to gamble and also the result?

Someone whom we both have this discuss yesterday said this is a good practice, I still don't see a reason why because I don't keep record of my losses, I tend to only remember when I win a certain amount, if its good enough you won't easily forget, but apart from this I don't care.

So Famz, is there any benefits when one keeps record on their losses and wins? Is there any thing to gain when you write down all the money you spent in gambling and also how much you have made so far?

Not keeping records, does this make me a bad gambler?

I don't keep records either because if I do or anyone else that does that means only one thing,whenever you will be back reviewing your spreadsheet with your win/loss data you will think not twice but more than that before you gamble.

It is true that when you don't keep it you only tend to remember your big wins but if your lost sessions are consecutive you will remember them too so I don't see any real benefit of keeping track,in order to avoid this use a preset budget for gambling every week or every month and stick to it,you will know the data without keeping a spreadsheet.
1929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 10, 2023, 06:14:47 AM

Many people had been waiting for Arsenal's victory the day before and it really happened. Manchester City, who lost points in 2 consecutive matches, really struggled in that match because Arsenal performed well throughout the match. This actually didn't occur to me, but Manchester City's defeat means it is unlikely they will succeed in defending their title again this season.

I don't expect Manchester City to retain the Premier League title this season, that would obviously be very bad for another team that has also spent a lot of money building its squad. But we can't be sure that Manchester City will fail this season because we all know the competition is not that far away. There are 30 other matches that each team has to play including Tottenham, Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool, so I can't expect much from them since the 4 teams are only separated by 2 or 3 points.
Of course, in this case, in the next match, Manchester City must play with an even better performance. It is true that a match cannot be predicted, but Manchester City fans hope that in the next match Manchester City can win.
It's true, there are still matches that haven't taken place, so it's possible that Manchester City still has a chance to become champions this season, we can only hope and pray, bro. Smiley

I also don't think Manchester City can be again Champions of the Premier League this season however it is way to early to be saying that.In order to have a better view if they can win this season too we have to see their behavior and game play in the upcoming games,now there is International break which can be beneficial to teams like Manchester City that have 2 consecutive lost games in a row and they need to reflect on it and improve their posture.

The one team which the International break must hurt is Chelsea as they just got 2 victories in a row in the first time during this season and they will be having a break too.
1930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Turkish Super League 2023/24 Season on: October 09, 2023, 02:07:28 PM
Beşiktaş beat Istanbulspor comfortably today. Ghezzal's recovery from injury and his return to the team is very important. He played well in this match. I have no doubt that as his form improves, he will have better games and he will carry Beşiktaş's team play upwards. Before Ghezzal, we only relied on Aboubakar's individual skills. Aboubakar carried us very well when Ghezzal was injured, but he couldn't do more on his own and football is not an individual sport. I have no hopes for Beşiktaş this season, but with Ghezzal back in the team we will undoubtedly be on a better path...

Ghezzal is truly a great player and his absence was greatly felt by Beşiktaş fans. Fortunately, in this case, Aboubakar closed this gap and made significant contributions to Beşiktaş in every field. Vincent was great in both the European and Turkish matches and I am sure he will be even more great with Ghezzal. I thought they would play so well against İstanbulspor and I was right. Now their goal should be to beat Galatasaray.

If they beat Galatasaray it means a lot to them but since Galatasaray on paper has the best players in Turkish Superlig and they are doing very well on both fronts,in the Champions League and in home league they remain the favorites between the two teams.

Of course Besiktash has equal chances to win the game against Galatasaray as the ball is round as they say but for me it will be very difficult for them to achieve such thing,if they get a draw I would consider this a success for them based on their ranking in the standings.
1931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A Lady Cried After Losing to Sports Bet. Gambling is Not Your Mate. on: October 09, 2023, 01:33:09 PM
Sometimes she didn't even know when she started crying. Probably she started crying and uncontrollable because of the amount which she lost was big. But as a chronic gambler she would have consoled herself. Though it was painful but as a regular customer of casinos she supposed know the risk involved. Now she made herself a public mockery. If you see the way people are mocking her on Social Media, you will pity the woman. Some of them are even congratulating her upon the loss oh!  Grin. And this the time she needs friends and family members to make her comfort and to make her happy. Mostly Social Media friends would have at least consoled and encourage her to over come the lost but she is getting the opposite.

Why should she care what social media says about her?She should only focus on herself,keep doing what she does usually and to stop gambling amounts which simply she cannot afford to lose.Nowadays people seem more evil and stupid than in prior times and I am afraid this will only get worse,to much technology is making people more stressful and crazy,technology was created to make our life easier yet people are becoming even more addicted to technology and the level of stress it brings.

I think by now the news about her loss should be forgotten already and she should have resumed her life doing what she likes.
1932  Economy / Gambling / Re: My best SPORTSBETTING advices! ⚽️ on: October 09, 2023, 01:02:27 PM
1. Always do some kind of research about the game and teams you gonna bet on. (Are some important player injured? Is a team good or bad home/away? Does a team have extra hard against a specific team?
I think this is easily noticed from the odds.

Example Al Nassr which have Ronaldo, if Ronaldo isn't injury, Al Nassr become a favorite team. But when Ronaldo is injured, Al Nassr become an underdog. So, without you need to make a research, the bookie already know it and indirectly show to the bettor through the odds.

Same like home/away, every teams always perform better in home.

Be wary,very wary I would say of how the bookies bring you the odds as they bring it in such way to mess up with us.Let me give you what I define so far for this actual season the clearest example of all,the bookies gave to Villareal an odd of 1.70 at home for playing against Las Palmas and they lost.It was no big deal and not at all a big surprise that they lost this game,they are in a really bad form and they need to change a lot of things yet the bookies served them to us as the favorite to win the game,the odd also must have made people decide I believe a majority of bettors to support Villareal,so be very very careful with the bookies and how they present odds.
1933  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: October 09, 2023, 12:41:45 PM
need freebitco.in to fasten their settlement sport betting
Yes, this seems very interesting to discuss, indeed sometimes it takes more than 24 hours or more to process sports betting payments on the freebitcoin site, maybe they process it manually or need time to check it, but if it is processed quickly of course it can be used to bet on other matches so you don't focus on just a few matches.

I think maybe this has been discussed in this thread, maybe you or I missed it again, but this is what I hope too when they process it quickly it will be even better even though we know sports betting here is not the main thing either but this can be used as an alternative For those of us who want to double our money there, I would be very happy if they could process all sports betting settlements quickly. today I just got a sports betting payout on the Manchester United match last Saturday

That is normal that they take time to settle sport bets,they don't have automation for such events and they have not a big team of people working for them so asking to fasten their processing is I am afraid something that can't be done without an extra cost.

This is not a complete sport book like many other casinos which have teams in place to check the eligibility of every winning bet so this will continue to be like that for some time to come and we should not compare this site with a real casino,they have started as a faucet which has developed through the years a lot of other options where gambling ones are prevalent.
1934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CONMEBOL 2026 FIFA World Cup qualification (South America) on: October 09, 2023, 11:51:39 AM


What do you think, is there any player who deserved to be on the list, but it's not?
The match against Uruguay could be a good chance to bet, as the odds may be more balanced due to the fact that Uruguay will play at home

This match will be quite difficult for Brazil. Brazil currently has quite a great striker but unfortunately the players currently called up lack a midfielder who can set the tempo of the game and build forward attacks. Casemiro can be relied on but I don't really know the other midfielders. Currently Brazil is in first place in the Qualifications. But instead of discussing the match against Uruguay, it's better if we watch their match against Venezuela first.

Venezuela should be absolutely no match for Brazil and also Uruguay.I don't know that well Venezuela as I have not seen them playing in real competitions from a really loooooooooong time like the World Cup and I am basing my opinion on their results which point out to a very easy win for Brazil.

For Uruguay I know them quite a lot and I was not impressed at all in this last World Cup held in Qatar in November 2022,a team without burning passion or desire to do well,they could not even beat South Korea in the group stages and as far as I know they were eliminated early,that makes them an easy target for Brazil also.
1935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Winning Wisely: Strategies to Protect Your Bankroll on: October 09, 2023, 11:30:27 AM
When luck isn't on your side, consider an immediate pause to prevent further losses

This will really save a lot of money from gambler if they will apply this. I observed that many gambler is indeed losing due to not being patient and chasing the huge win even though they are not lucky with their current bet result.

I was a victim of this too when I have consistent lose streak while I’m doing martingale strategy. I keep chasing and chasing until my bankroll deplete then my last roll using a penny bet makes it a win which will be a huge profit if I still have a bankroll to cover my strategy. My whole bankroll will be safe if Just didn’t push my luck to the limit and just pause for the day.

That word "consider" is a really nice one as most of us do not think about anything else when we are playing and losing money that we only want to continue playing getting that bigger win which will make all those lost bets a memory.The reality though is at least in personal experience that any time I try to do that I keep losing all the balance.Last week I entered with an idea to play just 300.000 IDR in total no matter what would happen and I choose Sweet Bonanza as my beloved slot,I got to win and got to IDR 2.500.000 and after that greed got the best out of me and lost it all.

I will make sure to put that in my desktop when playing that golden rule above.
1936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 09, 2023, 11:07:45 AM


Source: https://twitter.com/LewisHamilton/status/1711085330374295864

Hamilton sent a tweet about the incident at the beginning of the race. He said that he watched the replay and accepted that it was fully his fault in fact. His apology to his team and Russell is valuable of course. Because probably due to the heat of the race he couldn't realize it and he said through the radio that he was taken out by his own teammate.

After watching it again I was also clear about it. Hamilton just pushed his luck too much from outside. He cost Mercedes really valuable points.  Sad

Verstappen's ambition is really just something else. He announced his title in the sprint race already but he still continues to race the same without any relaxation.

It was all over the Instagram pages of F1 and related F1 meme pages that pictures speaks a thousand words and they shared a picture of Hamilton hugging Russell and acknowledging his fault with a different message though and that was "it was a racing incident and I take full responsibility of it,after watching the replay many times I saw that George had nowhere to go so sorry".

Max was not racing without relaxation in fact he was relaxing all the race yesterday as many messages in the radio to him were telling him to step up on the gas pedal and to drive a bit faster,he only started listening to these messages on the last stage of the race where he got the fastest lap,he is just managing the races now.
1937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you cheat in gambling? on: October 09, 2023, 10:43:45 AM
No, not because I don't want it, but it is impossible. Even in a physical or digital casino, in that kind of industry, it is impossible to cheat because, of course, they do measures to make it impossible. The casino itself will not cheat you or trick you, probably because it's part of their business. I know you're all aware of this stuff, but in reality, most casinos do it. Instead of cheating, I'd rather wish to be super lucky in gambling, even if it's one big time. That's what I'm wishing for.

In online ones I strongly agree that you don't wanna do that as you get banned immediately and I also am totally contrary to this,if you enter there with the mentality to cheat better don't enter at all and spend your money somewhere else.

What happened though in physical casinos where I live from many years,many years ago we had some Astra slot machines and an Astra slot machine had like 5-10 different slot games to play at,there were a metal device which could reveal if the double up was red or black and it worked at those slots which are not more here from many years now.Many people were arrested as the casinos become suspicious of how come so many people were winning in a consecutive way while the slot was programmed differently.

There are many other stories for physical casinos as we have seen movies about them but the online ones they seem immune to such tricks until now and as I said a lot of people got in jail so it is better to play clean or don't play at all.
1938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 09, 2023, 10:28:21 AM
PSG is highly inconsistent during their games,sometimes they destroy good teams like they did to Lyon some time ago and like they did to Rennes this weekend.Monaco is a strong contender this year but they are not consistent either so it will be interesting to see how it folds out between these two teams as honestly I doubt Nice would be any real danger or any real contender to the title despite being high in the standings just check how many goals they have scored and you will agree with me.Marseille also looks distant from the title fight so far but Marseille is a team that when it gets steam it can be a really consistent winning team so let's wait and see.
1939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I am only trying to stay safe by gambling less on: October 09, 2023, 09:49:23 AM
For me these days, I do wish I could gamble more instead of spending frivolously and indulging in cheap entertainment that cost me my funds, time and attention. Most times I don't get as much thrill and fun like when I gamble and have my blood pumping or emotions raving, but I know the importance of control and the need to instead save or reinvest my funds to solve a better need.
Investment is in the form of HODLing BTC as I have always said and perhaps in knowledge of trading and real world skill, hence why I heed to forming better money consumption habits than gambling which is easily addictive.

It is very difficult to switch from the gambling habit to something else,gambling keeps you entertained most of the time or at least keeps you impatient to see what the slot will throw at you this time.Some people like more table games and they like the thrill of live games and some others prefer a more subtle way of entertaining themselves which is sport betting.All of these are more easily accessible than learning a new skill for example which would take time but learning a new skill is a great investment as they say the best investment is the one you make on yourself.You can also when you have this urge of gambling,to invest those funds like you say hodling,you can buy some nice additional alternate cryptocurrenices,like ZIL for example which you can stake and earn passive income.
1940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 09, 2023, 09:28:32 AM
Quite a strange situation: Barcelona lost points for the second time in a game with an outsider and is now 3 points behind Real Madrid. At the same time, Real lost points only in the game with strong Atletico. In turn, Atlético, if we take into account the game in reserve, is one point ahead of Barcelona. But the title quotes are as follows:

Real Madrid 1.89

Barcelona Fc 2.20

Atlético Madrid 10.00

In my opinion, Real and Atletico are underrated and Barcelona are overrated. I don’t see Atlético as a contender for the title, but the numbers are such that they should be rated higher.

For me Atletico Madrid is on the best run here having won 2 great games,both at home against Real Madrid which gave them a huge boost in confidence and they have continued winning by beating this last weekend another very good performing team lately,Real Sociedad.

Barcelona with the draw of yesterday game should have the odd of 3.5 at least as they are three points behind Real Madrid and they are on equal points or just one point disadvantage to have that low odd nearly identical to Real Madrid.
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