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Edit: April fools!
In recent years, it seems that a lot of people have been making low-value posts just to get paid. To address this, I've added a merit "cost" to posting: from this point forward, for every 15 characters you post, you will lose one Merit point. This should eliminate any incentive to make low-value posts.
Any halfway-decent poster should be able to earn much more merit than they lose due to the penalty. But I recognize that some good posts are occasionally overlooked. So to counterbalance the penalty, I also added a system whereby you will earn a bit of merit just by reading posts. If you want to write a lot, you'd better do some reading as well!
For both the penalty and the bonus, this applies only to your merit score, and does not affect sendable merit (sMerit).
Let me know what you think of these adjustments.
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Bitcointalk Account: theymos
My vote goes to: Mame89, acroman08, Despairo, Bd officer
Mame89's was the best IMO due to the large amount of variety and detail. Acroman08's is also good-looking and thematic. Despairo's dragonfruit pie is vibrant and interesting; I wonder how it'd taste. A lot of people used pomegranate "drawings" to good effect, and I think that Bd officer's was the best of these.
Thanks for running the contest, RickDeckard!
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But I think that the search function still doesn't work as it should
That's unrelated to the issue DdmrDdmr brought up. Search has a number of quirks, and I'm not going to fix them all right now. In this case, your search didn't work as expected because words appearing in a large percentage of posts are not indexed within posts at all. Currently, there are 181 unindexed words, and "bitcoin" is one of them. So if you search for "bitcoin", it will not even look for posts containing "bitcoin" in their bodies, though it will search topic subjects, and it will highlight "bitcoin" in any posts found via subject-search. As another example, if you search for "bitcoin candy", it will search for messages with [both bitcoin AND candy in their subject] OR [candy in their body], even though it will highlight both "bitcoin" and "candy" in message-bodies in the results. (Furthermore, this will exceed the result limit, so you will actually only get an arbitrary subset of the possible results.) Next time I reindex posts, probably it would be a good idea to not have any nouns in the list of unindexed words. |
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Thanks for reporting it, I think I fixed it now.
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This month 134 users were eligible. Old: theymos
HostFat
gmaxwell
qwk
Vod
vapourminer
fronti
Foxpup
philipma1957
Cyrus
Welsh
ibminer
d5000
TookDk
Mitchell
albon
wwzsocki
gbianchi
EFS
stompix
hilariousandco
buckrogers
Buchi-88
Lesbian Cow
willi9974
cryptodevil
NeuroticFish
DaveF
examplens
minerjones
irfan_pak10
yahoo62278
bitbollo
zazarb
pooya87
Real-Duke
LoyceV
The Sceptical Chymist
LeGaulois
SFR10
TryNinja
BitcoinGirl.Club
holydarkness
Lafu
tweetious
Yatsan
buwaytress
Ale88
Kryptowerk
Vispilio
Baofeng
be.open
krogothmanhattan
JollyGood
RaltcoinsB
Igebotz
roycilik
CryptopreneurBrainboss
hugeblack
El duderino_
KTChampions
Trofo
Coin-1
icopress
dragonvslinux
JeromeTash
3meek
MinoRaiola
GazetaBitcoin
Maus0728
tvplus006
coinlocket$
mole0815
witcher_sense
Heisenberg_Hunter
DdmrDdmr
shahzadafzal
anonymousminer
Lakai01
stoos
Husna QA
Bthd
fillippone
cryptofrka
madnessteat
The Cryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
DireWolfM14
The0ldl_lser
YOSHIE
efialtis
geophphreigh
zasad@
Rikafip
FatFork
NotATether
decodx
Lillominato89
Poker Player
MrCryptHodl
New: OgNasty
qwk
Vod
vapourminer
mprep
Foxpup
philipma1957
Cyrus
Welsh
ibminer
d5000
TookDk
albon
wwzsocki
Timelord2067
gbianchi
EFS
dbshck
stompix
hilariousandco
Lesbian Cow
willi9974
JayJuanGee
achow101
DaveF
teeGUMES
examplens
nutildah
irfan_pak10
yahoo62278
bitbollo
LFC_Bitcoin
o_solo_miner
Real-Duke
LoyceV
The Sceptical Chymist
SFR10
TwitchySeal
BitcoinGirl.Club
holydarkness
Lafu
finaleshot2016
buwaytress
crwth
Ale88
duesoldi
Vispilio
Baofeng
krogothmanhattan
wolwoo
RaltcoinsB
roycilik
CryptopreneurBrainboss
hugeblack
KTChampions
Trofo
Coin-1
icopress
GreatArkansas
dragonvslinux
JeromeTash
Bitcoin_Arena
joniboini
MinoRaiola
Agrawas
GazetaBitcoin
tvplus006
coinlocket$
witcher_sense
bitmover
DdmrDdmr
anonymousminer
Lakai01
stoos
morvillz7z
Husna QA
fillippone
cryptofrka
madnessteat
The Cryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
DireWolfM14
Harkorede
The0ldl_lser
Little Mouse
YOSHIE
jokers10
efialtis
geophphreigh
zasad@
Rikafip
FatFork
NotATether
Stalker22
bullrun2024bro
BlackHatCoiner
Charles-Tim
Lillominato89
Poker Player
paid2 |
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Skimming through those makes me so nostalgic... Next time somebody complains about the version of SMF on bitcointalk.org, I have a great excuse! Hopefully the 1.1.x line is mature and updates are infrequent. We
shouldn't upgrade to 2.0. I made a ton of customisations that wouldn't
be compatible, and I kind of prefer the look of 1.1 over 2.0 anyway. |
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I thought people would quickly figure out on their own from the new email address what happened, but maybe it's not as clear as I thought. Maybe later I'll put a big red notice about it on the Account Settings page if you've been affected, especially if more people keep coming to Meta and asking about it. So what happens if an existing email address suppose " testmail123@gmail.com" gets disable or ban for some unknown reason? The address won't exist then. Google recently made a new policy where inactive gmail are deleted. You weren't receiving email before because your email got banned/disabled, and now you'll still not be receiving email. Nothing is lost. The forum account isn't banned or anything. Another possible issue is if email can't be received temporary, because of maintenance or outage.
If it's temporarily down, then it won't give a bounce message of "No such mailbox" (or similar), so the email won't be affected. Gmail for example responds via SMTP, "550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try 550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or 550-5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. Learn more at 550 5.1.1 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=NoSuchUser". We're detecting several variations on that "no such user" SMTP response. Longer-term, I would also like to do something about emails where the domain times-out or returns a "temporary" error in like 3 of the last 12 months or something like that. If you register with an email like asdfwerwe@werwetwerwer.com, then somebody could register werwetwerwer.com and steal the account that way. But this issue isn't on my short-term to-do list at all. |
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This is something we recently started doing. If email sent to your email address bounces with an error message like, "This email address doesn't exist", then your email may eventually be changed to u...@bounces.invalid. (It's not possible for users to change their email address to something ending in .invalid, so this can only be an administrative change.) Because your old email didn't exist, somebody could've registered your non-existent email address and used that to steal your account.
I didn't particularly intend for the trust warning to appear for these automatic changes, but it's a niche situation and a bit difficult to fix, so I probably won't fix this unless several other people complain. It only lasts 30 days, after all.
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This month 140 users were eligible. Old: theymos
gmaxwell
CanaryInTheMine
Vod
vapourminer
fronti
mprep
Foxpup
philipma1957
Cyrus
ibminer
Mitchell
albon
wwzsocki
Timelord2067
jeremypwr
EFS
arulbero
Avirunes
buckrogers
Buchi-88
willi9974
JayJuanGee
NeuroticFish
DaveF
examplens
minerjones
irfan_pak10
bitbollo
pooya87
o_solo_miner
sandy-is-fine
Real-Duke
klarki
LoyceV
The Sceptical Chymist
SFR10
TwitchySeal
phishead
TryNinja
BitcoinGirl.Club
ekiller
holydarkness
Lafu
polymerbit
tweetious
buwaytress
crwth
Ale88
duesoldi
bobita
Vispilio
Baofeng
krogothmanhattan
wolwoo
roycilik
El duderino_
KTChampions
icopress
GreatArkansas
sheenshane
3meek
logfiles
Bitcoin_Arena
joniboini
MinoRaiola
GazetaBitcoin
Maus0728
coinlocket$
mole0815
witcher_sense
bitmover
DdmrDdmr
shahzadafzal
morvillz7z
Bthd
fillippone
madnessteat
The Cryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
DireWolfM14
1miau
Harkorede
The0ldl_lser
Little Mouse
YOSHIE
efialtis
geophphreigh
zasad@
Lachrymose
seek3r
FatFork
NotATether
CryptoYar
BlackHatCoiner
Charles-Tim
Lillominato89
MrCryptHodl
paid2
n0nce
New: theymos
HostFat
gmaxwell
qwk
Vod
vapourminer
fronti
Foxpup
philipma1957
Cyrus
Welsh
ibminer
d5000
TookDk
Mitchell
albon
wwzsocki
gbianchi
EFS
stompix
hilariousandco
buckrogers
Buchi-88
Lesbian Cow
willi9974
cryptodevil
NeuroticFish
DaveF
examplens
minerjones
irfan_pak10
yahoo62278
bitbollo
zazarb
pooya87
Real-Duke
LoyceV
The Sceptical Chymist
LeGaulois
SFR10
TryNinja
BitcoinGirl.Club
holydarkness
Lafu
tweetious
Yatsan
buwaytress
Ale88
Kryptowerk
Vispilio
Baofeng
be.open
krogothmanhattan
JollyGood
RaltcoinsB
Igebotz
roycilik
CryptopreneurBrainboss
hugeblack
El duderino_
KTChampions
Trofo
Coin-1
icopress
dragonvslinux
JeromeTash
3meek
MinoRaiola
GazetaBitcoin
Maus0728
tvplus006
coinlocket$
mole0815
witcher_sense
Heisenberg_Hunter
DdmrDdmr
shahzadafzal
anonymousminer
Lakai01
stoos
Husna QA
Bthd
fillippone
cryptofrka
madnessteat
The Cryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
DireWolfM14
The0ldl_lser
YOSHIE
efialtis
geophphreigh
zasad@
Rikafip
FatFork
NotATether
decodx
Lillominato89
Poker Player
MrCryptHodl |
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Thank you for spending so much time with us; your absence will be a major loss to this community.
Even though I didn't know you well, you've been around so long and contributed so much that I feel a real sense of loss, and I'm sure you've created these sorts of connections with a lot of people, far more than will reply in this topic. You'll be in my thoughts. I hope that as much as possible and for as long as possible, you are happy and healthy.
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In any case, it's completely hypocritical : look at this topic which is THE source of all this shit and it isn't even wordfiltered.  The clearnet site was seized, so there's no need to wordfilter it. What about this oneShould it be locked or I can keep going on it? As you can notice, I removed any URL, I only mention the names and it has been say we can still discuss mixers. Otherwise, in a random discussion, we can talk about a mixer but not allowed to say the name? That's fine. And you can say the names of mixers in posts, unless their name is a URL. |
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This month 142 users were eligible. Old: HostFat
gmaxwell
OgNasty
qwk
Vod
vapourminer
fronti
mprep
Foxpup
philipma1957
Cyrus
Welsh
ibminer
d5000
Mitchell
wwzsocki
Timelord2067
dbshck
stompix
hilariousandco
buckrogers
Buchi-88
willi9974
JayJuanGee
NeuroticFish
achow101
DaveF
examplens
nutildah
minerjones
yahoo62278
zazarb
pooya87
o_solo_miner
sandy-is-fine
Real-Duke
klarki
The Sceptical Chymist
LeGaulois
SFR10
TwitchySeal
TryNinja
ekiller
Jet Cash
holydarkness
tweetious
Yatsan
HCP
buwaytress
crwth
comit
Ale88
duesoldi
Kryptowerk
Vispilio
Baofeng
imhoneer
krogothmanhattan
JollyGood
roycilik
CryptopreneurBrainboss
hugeblack
El duderino_
KTChampions
Trofo
icopress
o_e_l_e_o
JeromeTash
3meek
logfiles
Bitcoin_Arena
joniboini
MinoRaiola
Agrawas
GazetaBitcoin
Maus0728
TheBeardedBaby
coinlocket$
mole0815
witcher_sense
DdmrDdmr
Lakai01
morvillz7z
Husna QA
Bthd
fillippone
cryptofrka
madnessteat
The Cryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
The0ldl_lser
jokers10
efialtis
geophphreigh
Rikafip
NotATether
Stalker22
decodx
BlackHatCoiner
Poker Player
New: theymos
gmaxwell
CanaryInTheMine
Vod
vapourminer
fronti
mprep
Foxpup
philipma1957
Cyrus
ibminer
Mitchell
albon
wwzsocki
Timelord2067
jeremypwr
EFS
arulbero
Avirunes
buckrogers
Buchi-88
willi9974
JayJuanGee
NeuroticFish
DaveF
examplens
minerjones
irfan_pak10
bitbollo
pooya87
o_solo_miner
sandy-is-fine
Real-Duke
klarki
LoyceV
The Sceptical Chymist
SFR10
TwitchySeal
phishead
TryNinja
BitcoinGirl.Club
ekiller
holydarkness
Lafu
polymerbit
tweetious
buwaytress
crwth
Ale88
duesoldi
bobita
Vispilio
Baofeng
krogothmanhattan
wolwoo
roycilik
El duderino_
KTChampions
icopress
GreatArkansas
sheenshane
3meek
logfiles
Bitcoin_Arena
joniboini
MinoRaiola
GazetaBitcoin
Maus0728
coinlocket$
mole0815
witcher_sense
bitmover
DdmrDdmr
shahzadafzal
morvillz7z
Bthd
fillippone
madnessteat
The Cryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
DireWolfM14
1miau
Harkorede
The0ldl_lser
Little Mouse
YOSHIE
efialtis
geophphreigh
zasad@
Lachrymose
seek3r
FatFork
NotATether
CryptoYar
BlackHatCoiner
Charles-Tim
Lillominato89
MrCryptHodl
paid2
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Happy new year!
I locked all of the mixer ANN threads I saw, and I put in a number of wordfilters. If I missed any threads, please use "report to moderator". Also see my previous post: Note that the timeline will be something like this:
- Sometime on Jan 1 (at an arbitrary time, not midnight), the wordfilters will be put into place, the announcement threads will be locked, and mixer-run accounts will be put into PM-only-mode. If any threads/accounts are missed after all of the other ones are affected, please report them. If new wordfilters should be added, please post in a topic in Meta about it.
- Sig-campaign (etc.) threads which appear not to be soliciting new promotion might not need to be locked at all, and wrap-up-related posts can still happen there. We don't plan on going through all of the sig-campaign threads and locking them all. But if they're continuing to generate promotion, they will be locked.
- Mixer sigs will be affected by the wordfilter on Jan 1. After a few days (ie. not immediately on Jan 1), signatures containing any of the wordfiltered URLs will be blanked. I haven't decided yet whether I'll remove old mixer avatars: if I do, it won't be for at least a few weeks after Jan 1. (New mixer avatars definitely aren't allowed.)
Generally, please only report new stuff: not old posts, remnant signatures, posts related to merely wrapping up a campaign, etc. And remember that merely talking about mixers is not banned.
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Can we use url shortener to use a referral link in our sig without any mention of mixing in our profile?
Any promotion in the signature is disallowed. url shortener
That is an unintended loophole. I edited the OP: Mixer URLs will be automatically wordfiltered out, but you can still discuss mixers otherwise. Using link-shorteners or other obfuscation techniques in order to post URLs which would otherwise be wordfiltered is not allowed. |
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Thanks to PowerGlove, who did 90% of the work on this, the much-requested 2-factor authentication feature has finally been added. You can enable it in your Account Settings, and then you have to give the code when logging in. If you don't have 2FA enabled, you have to leave the OTP field blank when logging in. If you use the forgotten-password function, then there's an option to remove the 2FA. So 2FA does not provide any protection in case of a compromised email. Make sure that your email address is secure. If you don't want to set an email address, use something like yourUserName@invalid.bitcointalk.org; don't use a random nonsense email like y@x.com, since somebody might create that domain/email. Let me know if there are any bugs. |
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Does this imply that mixer avatars have not yet been banned? And it could be worn after January 1st.
No. They're definitely not allowed after Jan 1. But I might not bother to remove old ones. |
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Note that the timeline will be something like this: - Sometime on Jan 1 (at an arbitrary time, not midnight), the wordfilters will be put into place, the announcement threads will be locked, and mixer-run accounts will be put into PM-only-mode. If any threads/accounts are missed after all of the other ones are affected, please report them. If new wordfilters should be added, please post in a topic in Meta about it. - Sig-campaign (etc.) threads which appear not to be soliciting new promotion might not need to be locked at all, and wrap-up-related posts can still happen there. We don't plan on going through all of the sig-campaign threads and locking them all. But if they're continuing to generate promotion, they will be locked. - Mixer sigs will be affected by the wordfilter on Jan 1. After a few days (ie. not immediately on Jan 1), signatures containing any of the wordfiltered URLs will be blanked. I haven't decided yet whether I'll remove old mixer avatars: if I do, it won't be for at least a few weeks after Jan 1. (New mixer avatars definitely aren't allowed.) Generally, please only report new stuff: not old posts, remnant signatures, posts related to merely wrapping up a campaign, etc. And remember that merely talking about mixers is not banned. What about a service like [banned mixer]?
Jambler is not itself a mixer, so it'll be allowed. (It's pretty borderline, though, so I might later reevaluate whether it's exploiting a loophole which should be closed.) What if a Service pops up. They take your Bitcoin and send you a Monero Private Key. It looks like an Exchange but it is not. They never call themselves a 'Mixer' nor do they seem like one at first glance. The functionality is exactly like Chip Mixer but the Currency you receive in the end is not Bitcoin but Monero instead.
That sounds to me like a mixer using Monero as part of an internal mixing system, but it's difficult to say with just a hypothetical. |
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1) Some mixers already have a Know Your Transaction (KYT) policy, will they get banned?
Yes. Is it enough to add the phrase “The mixer can collect KYC data” in the terms of use?
No. They have to be collecting KYC data from all senders. TornadoCash
I'm not familiar enough with how Tornado Cash works/worked. It meets criteria 1 and 3, but for criteria 2: - If every member of the DAO turning evil would allow it to adjust the contract and steal BTC, then it's a banned mixer. - If going to the website and using the website directly to do the mixing would allow the deposit to be stolen, then at least the website would be a banned mixer. (Perhaps the contract itself wouldn't be.) - If neither of those are true, then maybe it's more like CoinJoin than a mixer, and it shouldn't be banned. Based on vague knowledge which I have casually absorbed, I'd guess that both of the first two points above are true? theymos, what about this? Also I should point out, it should not be ban-worthy to link to a closed mixer's ANN thread. Or actually to any post in the ANN thread that is not advertising to use the mixer.
Defunct mixers' ANN-threads probably won't be locked. Non-promotionally linking to a mixer's ANN thread will be allowed, whether or not it's a defunct mixer. |
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I edited the OP to reflect the updates I posted as a draft earlier. Would it be OK to have a signature linking to a blog/article explaining what mixing is, how it works and containing URL link(s) to mixer(s)?
It'd be OK in a post. In a signature it would probably not be allowed, as it would look like "promoting a mixer". It's OK. To allow efficient communication of mixers with users for support reasons, I would propose that an "official" discussion topic about every mixer could be allowed, but without any advertising elements. And the accounts representing the mixers could have to limit themselves strictly to this "official discussion/support thread".
Sorry, but having official mixer representatives do that sort of thing is too problematic, so that won't be allowed. But a non-mixer-representative creating an "ASDFMixer discussion thread" would be OK. I believe either you ban ALL Mixers or you let them all roam free. Know Your Customer being one of the ways you separate 'good' from 'bad' Mixers opens up a way for more BAD things than good things to happen in the future. It includes and opens up ways for more of the bad guys.
Before, I didn't really understand your position on the KYC issue at all, but now I understand it a little better: You see KYC as fundamentally bad, and by "favoring" KYC services in any way, it supports the existence of "KYC-only zones", possibly diminishing "non-KYC zones". I agree that KYC is bad, it'd be better for no service to have KYC, and KYC almost entirely exists because of real and threatened violence by the state. But I still use a few KYC services, and I don't see doing so as really "supporting the KYC ecosystem". If a big company like Coinbase created a KYC mixer, I could imagine myself using it in a few limited cases. True, a KYC mixer would only have value because of the evil of state-imposed KYC requirements, but it'd still potentially be useful. (In cases where I don't want anyone to be able to link my transactions, I wouldn't consider a centralized mixer in any case, KYC or no.) I don't think that criteria 3 will really help any service very much, but if hypothetically removing criteria 3 would prevent KYC-mixers from existing anywhere on Earth, I still wouldn't do it. KYC-mixers would probably provide some value to some people. It's like: would you want to ban all patent-law lawyers just because you don't think that patents should exist (as I do)? Moreover, I prefer to ban as few things as possible, and this is something that doesn't need to be banned. I did edit criteria 3 to make it clear that I'm not endorsing KYC. |
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Wtf, what about DDoS-for-hire services being advertised here then?
I agree that DDoS services are too legally dubious (moreso even than mixers) and should not be allowed. And if a services's domain is seized, then in 99% of cases that service should not be allowed on bitcointalk.org even if it's still accessible in other ways. Those threads have all been deleted or locked, and 2 domains have been wordfiltered. If there are more threads elsewhere, please use the "report to moderator" function on them. If more things should be wordfiltered, create a new Meta topic. (None of the topics you linked had ever received any reports, which is why the matter of DDoS services was never really considered.) |
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