I imagine that if someone were able to put magnets in the blockchain, it could power itself!

This topic was covered briefly in this troll thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=11381.0

Bonus: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=BUB3dygQ

Thank you for the kind words and concern, I have already contacted each better and I'm in the process of settling. It will take a little bit of time but I am dedicated to this first and foremost until the matter is resolved. Since many of the people betting were trolls trying to scam me I cannot make a group settlement because not all of the group will participate (sock puppet accounts do not respond). I can only discuss a solution with people who actually respond.

I have no intention of walking out on my obligations and have already contacted all parties from the bet. I'm just waiting on responses from some of them before I can do much else.


This is correct. I am a permanent resident of South Korea and no contract is lawful here without A) paper contract with at least a duplicate in Korean language (English alone is thrown out in court), B) fingerprints on said contract (new law passed recently). That said, the laws regarding internet activity are reminiscent of Singapore's laws that apply to Paypal; they can do whatever they want without so much as a fine, so long as none of their customers are from Singapore.


If I happen to prove you wrong, I guess that's a plus, but I'm not on a crusade to prove anything to anyone. I'm just here to make amends to the individuals I broke my promise with and that process began days ago.

I have received dozens of emails to a different tone actually. "I assumed you were just trolling", "Why are you bothering to pay anyone back? They deserve to have lost something", and other emails to that nature. The fact that I'm here to resolve things despite the repeated advice (read: Rassah) I've received to do the contrary should read in to my true intentions here. I do feel bad for what happened and I hope I can make things right again in time.

I'd have to agree. The situation grossly mismatched my maturity and professionalism and I feel bad about it. You could argue that for this level of involvement I was untrustworthy and although I intended on being exactly that in a comical way, it turned into a reality. That said, I am here now to make amends for my bad behavior and I know it's a bit soon, but as hard is it is to tackle this, I hope that that my efforts to make amends will help paint a more detailed picture of my character and not just the mistakes I made.

If he kept the common sense would he get a scammer tag?

I think I can help clarify this just a bit. At the time the bet was made, the forum was full of people left and right arguing about things they didn't know the real answer to (a troll's paradise), one side claiming that payback would be impossible and another side claiming that Pirate was a saint. The original lesson was intended for people who threw trust at pirate and other "funds" so easily, hence the comical nature of a bet that size without escrow. In my mind at the time, I was hurting no one except for people who needed to be reminded to stop trusting people so easily. That logic was obviously flawed and I was soon to realize that when it cost people money in the process.

The major mistake I made was not sticking with the prank. I fell to temptation and flip-flopped on my original reasoning. I started to believe it would be possible for pirate to pay back (perhaps) and I got out of control. Once I realized that there was no turning back, that's when everyone noticed a bizarre change in my attitude. I'm not proud of it, I've had to do some serious thinking about my life, my personality, my attitude and what I'm even doing here, but I came to the conclusion that I was overworked, in a position of trust disproportionate to my level of maturity and responsibilities, and I quickly screwed it up. The whole "not keeping my word" part was because I honestly had no idea how to go about it. No one is sitting on that amount of money and I didn't stick to one side, as I said, I flip flipped in my own mind and I believe that that is the most serious part of my mistake. As others have mentioned, if I would have kept just being a dick it might have been openly accepted as a prank, but I didn't have the sense to do that and as people have noted, I was tempted to try and make that situation into something that would also help my then poor financial situation. It was stupid of me, it was dishonest, it was something I'm not proud of, and it's a situation I won't let myself get into again.

I was raised a Christian and still have many of those same values in my life. I believe in sharing, I believe in forgiveness and I believe in making right on things you have done wrong. In my heart I knew I had to make things right once I learned of the magnitude of my mistake, but I was embarrassed and scared and didn't know how to clean up the large mess I made, as it was then something I could no longer control. This doesn't mean I'm a scammer, that I spend my nights and days looking for ways to cheat people for easy money, or that I am unfit for society. I work hard and always have, and I my anxiousness to be a part of something and lead (overzealousness?) is also misinterpreted as a sign of a scammer by some. It most certainly does mean that I did not put enough thought into my actions, that I was tempted with greed, and that I failed that temptation along with failing to understand the consequences of my actions beforehand. Looking back it seems so simple what I did and how it was so wrong. I just wish I would have had the sense to have steered clear when everyone was warning me at the time. I feel so stupid.

In short, the "lesson" was originally that people shouldn't trust others when they make outrageous claims and put nothing behind it. I let it go to far and changed the nature of the bet by flip-flopping and that is where I ruined myself. I understand that, I'm sorry for that, and now I am trying to make amends for that.

Do you know who helped design the security features in the checks and money you use?

Scammers! If it's just my input that's not welcome in the thread and not another person with this tag, then I'll gladly stop posting if the OP wishes me too. Thank you for reminding me to be humble about my past mistakes. It will take some time to live down I know.

My apologies darkmule, I'm here to make amends for the bad behavior I've had. If you see that behavior cropping up again, please do let me know. If you are sincerely worried about my mental health or being a sociopath, I welcome a discussion on it on a new thread. I imagine there are many traits of many things that many people have, but that's why real licensed and learned doctors exist to give those assessments. Thank you for your interesting perspective though, this thread is for discussion afterall.

When this movie came out, I went to see it with my girlfriend (No greyhawk, not Yoon). I liked it a lot and it really felt like a beautiful metaphor for money and the way the world works. I can't deny I thought of bitcoin while watching the movie, but the similarities stop at digital money in itself.

Alas, this has been mentioned before and I lean in favor of the opposing argument, that it is impossible to tell with a bet in the amount I originally set limits for. Some people did believe I had 10,000 BTC, and I made no effort to discourage them from that. Looking back it's like watching a completely different person; I have no idea what the hell was wrong with me and it still embarrasses me how inappropriately I behaved. It has caused a lot of reflection and I have found that an adjustment in my attitude and personality is the only logical next step to functioning in society.

The argument I have received numerous times is that since people trusted the bet, they were inclined to make other financial decisions based on said trust. This is something I hadn't really thought about beforehand to much extend and I was surprised, scared and saddened when the first wave of claims of lost funds do to hedging etc occurred. Some people actually went one step further and purchased debt, losing out even moreso. This unfortunately for all parties is unverifiable and admittedly something I will never be able to resolve completely. I am here first and foremost to simply resolve the bet itself. If I were to pay the bet out, it would be for the bet only, not amounts people come up with aside from that. That said, I do acknowledge that I have made many people uncomfortable as a result of the bet and I am truly grief stricken.

Exactly what you said. If you make it too easy for me to scam you, it's my fault, which exactly what I've been apologizing for and exactly what I want to change. Thank you for helping me make that clearer, I hope to adjust my personality and attitude accordingly and on a completely different topic, if you'd like to discuss what makes someone honest and get to the bottom of what I meant by my previous comment, I would be happy to engage you. Please start a thread.

In all honestly, your entire post hinges around a misunderstanding so it is actually difficult to give a response to. That said, I have always watched your posts with great admiration at their depth and knowledge and that also pains me that I could not have given a better impression to the people, like you, that I actually admired.

I understand that you are aggravated with me. Thank you for helping to address the issues with what I did and why it was wrong. I do agree with you that it was horrible taste, awful behavior, and completely unacceptable. This and no other is the reason for asking "What should I do?". I see now you perceived this as meaning "can I come back without paying anything?". This is far from the case though. As for my actions, I will keep adjusting my attitude and personality and see what happens in life from there.

Thank you for your continued concern, I know it is in everyone's best interest including mine.

What exactly is an "honest person"? I don't believe I've ever met one. I do believe I had a moment where my responsibilities, amount of trust in me from others, and influence were inproportionate to my experience, professionalism, and maturity, and I did in fact fall for the temptation that I shouldn't have because it was made very easy (see first part of this sentence for reasoning). What I would like to do is no longer put myself in a position where something like that can happen so easily, and just work in areas that don't surround me with money and people throwing it at me hand over fist. What I'd also like to do is not focus on money in my own life as well, and work for the benefit of creating and not just for profits. That was my biggest regret in 2013 and I don't want to let that happen again. I've considered working for free but bills do need to be paid so I think the best thing for me to do is continue working on adjusting my attitude, growing up and reading more than talking. Thank you for contributing your opinions to the topic though, that's why it's here.

Thank you guys for your suggestions. I will consider making a donation to torservers both financially and by contributing work as well in the future, but for now I believe the individual settling of this debt is the proper way to go. I have an idea for how to curb my trolling attitude, and it does in fact involve helping others with their project for no profit, so that is kind of in line with what you guys are thinking. I think.

Lucky, he gets to blame his mistakes on a boogieman. I have to own up to mine.

I'm not sure if this helps or not, but reddit has algorithms in place to help remove votes created by bots. As a part of this algorithm, accounts without a clear history of contributions will have their upvotes counted as downvotes in some cases. This is why you see SA goons on the bitcoin reddit posting nonsense all the time (it's to help bring their karma up so that they can mass downvote better).

This may or may not have been the case here.