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2041  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: May 18, 2017, 05:49:51 AM
Well of course there are times that gambling is really fun and the excitement and the desire to win is there but you wouldn't bet in the first place if you don't want the profit right? So it will always be in between. (Some losses are not funny)
for so many times tried my best to start playing gambling for free, but for every time i do not find any fun and entertainment there. there can only be fun and enjoyment in gambling if you are putting money in gambling, and specially if you are making money from gambling, but if you are continuously loosing money then there is no fun and enjoyment in gambling.

In short, every time you gamble, stop when it is no longer fun! That is it, what you are really up to are the fun and entertainment and when it is no longer serving its purpose of entertaining you, stop at once in order not to aggravate your loss.
2042  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: May 18, 2017, 05:47:49 AM
Betting on a sport which you have a clear understanding on, going with a very discipled money management strategy and yes you will be profitable long term.

I'm thinking about this because if I'm going to try other ways of earning through gambling which I'm not familiar or good at it. That will be hard for me, in sports betting like in basketball. There are a lot of good predictors with valid reason to bet and I just need to follow it and I can be good for a long term with this way.
Good luck to you mate, sports betting is fun but I never earn on that game although sometimes I also win.
In order to make money in sports betting, you need to fully focus and stop relying on other person's capacity to cap games, you need to have on your own and study it carefully because there are things that you need to consider, stats and most important news, you have to include it when you analyze.

Could not agree more to that. It is a matter of creating your own personal strategy of betting into sports betting. A strategy that you think is working for you and you at the same time you are comfortable with.
2043  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: May 18, 2017, 05:46:17 AM
If you enjoy gambling it's not necessary to stop, you just have to plan how much you can afford to spend on it in, say, per week. But if you are greedy and you want to make quick money, and you want more and more even when you have won a bit, then it's a different story, and gambling has little to do with it. Greedy people, even if they quit gambling, pretty soon will find a way to turn their own life and life of their relatives to hell again.

That is exactly what I am doing and by doing it this way then Im not going to ruin myself. I control what I gamble and only use a small amount. When you cant quit your gambling habit, this is what you should do. If you can even do this as well then nothing can help you, so far this has helped me alot

when we are playing gambling and if we are enjoy the games, we should thinking how to quit gambling and we should not to continue playing gambling if somehow we are getting loss in several times. beside that, if we are thinking about our beloved one or our family, then i think its the right time for us to quit gambling games because its a sign for us to stop the games.

yes it is hard to quit gamble if you are addicted and you're into it, you need to put your interest on other things and spend you time on the other things that will help you to forget gamble. it is not easy to forget a thing that you have been love and been addicted but if you want you may forget and quit it slowly but surely you can do it.

I tried alot of things. Sometimes I do play computer games to get my mind out of it but I just keep on remembering it every single time. I tried to work as well and do alot of thing but it is hard to let it go. In the end I surrender and keep on gambling however this time, with only small bankroll therefore I wont lose alot of money

What I see here is that at least you know exactly your present take on gambling. Well, if you really want to totally get out of gambling, for me it is just a matter of a strong-willed decision, and done!
2044  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: May 15, 2017, 11:51:54 PM
Never possible to earn steady income from bitcoins due to price volatility factor attached with it and your income will keep on varying depending on the price of bitcoins and its also an big risk to depend only on income from bitcoins so the best option would be to have a day job and keep bitcoins as an additional source of income.
to me i think the only way through which we can get the steady income s signature campaing but from there we can only get a little amount of bitcoin which can only good for our pocket money. while from trading we cannot get a steady income.

The thing is, you can do well in signature campaign and save earnings then equip yourself with the knowledge and skills of trading to even grow more your bitcoins through trading.
Do you think trading is easy? its not easy that you think it can lose your all money if you do not know how trading works.. and how to make a good profit some methods like setting margins..
Trading is a good place where we can make a good profit if we know how to analyze the altcoin or other crypto currency..
But we can not consider it as steady income because it will be still depends in the price of altcoins..

That is so true! Even professional traders have their share of big losses with bitcoin, currencies, and in stocks. Trading involves risk but also offers big profit if you are lucky and your strategy proves it right on that certain big trade.
2045  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: May 15, 2017, 11:43:40 PM
If Gambling was not introduced then many people have to do the hard work for earning money.
In my own personal point of view if gambling wasn't introduced in our society people might be in different hobbies, games or vices. Gambling can be compare to social media if it is never been introduced no big effects in the economy or within the society will  be noticeable.
I think gambling is compared with other games and sports where money is not involved so if gambling would not introduced then people would do any other things like playing games on their PC or playing games in clubs for their entertainment.

That is true. The very reason why gambling exists for a long time now is for entertainment and of course profit to the people that make the game or the casinos. Their reward of hosting a place for gambling is getting profits from the losses of the gamblers.
2046  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: May 15, 2017, 11:36:04 PM
There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?

"Mind"
This is the hardest in my opinion. I always want to get big profits, regardless of market risk. I ended up losing emotions and losing a lot of money. No one can teach about how to organize the mind. Need discipline and patience. Grin
if you want big profit then you need to work hard. you need to get too much information about bitcoin, for this you can use  so many sources, you can information about bitcoin through internet, you can also use social media to get information about bitcoin. you can get valuable information about bitcoin from this form, and in the light of these information you can predict about the price of bitcoin. if you are interested in trading then you need to have good knowledge about altcoin also. as you will mostly trade altcoin from where you can also make good profit in a very short time.

There are really skillful, lucky, and risk taker in the trading industry that get lots of profit whether the market is going up or down. It is just a matter of equipping ourselves with  the right kind of knowledge, skills, and industry information.
2047  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: May 15, 2017, 11:33:05 PM
If Gambling was not introduced then many people have to do the hard work for earning money.

You mean many people would be able to keep their hard earned money  Grin
perfectly said mate, well if gambling was not introduce gambling addicts will not be a problem and those money coming from the hard work
will be use correctly and accordingly, just some few cents though..

If gambling was not introduced, I BET that many people will find ways to spend their money on Cheesy For me, we just spend life to things that make us happy, period. And saving and investing for the future will serve its purpose on our future security to make us happy all the time.
2048  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: May 15, 2017, 11:30:22 PM
Good decision. It's very hard to make money in BTC trading even you work for it full time. You need to do long term trades (buy at bottom-hold-sell at top), it should increase your trading accuracy.

Yes its very hard to earn money in BTC trading cause you are not sure whether you will earn or lose money. Its very risky right now because of many scammers that are roaming in this site.
I think its not risky if you can be satisfied to stay in bitcoin to usd because the price is increasing fast and sometimes there is a large dump you don't need to go in other altcoin if you want to make a good profit or less risk..
Unlike you in altcoin that you do not know how they are long will live and when they are will increase in bitcoin you can know if you heard some goods expect that the price of bitcoin will increase soon.. if bad news sooner the price can be drop..

That is true. If you are a good trader and learn some good strategies like fundamental strategy (watching the news as it happens) and then make a good and wise trade, then you are good.
2049  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: May 15, 2017, 11:28:08 PM
I'm not sure about that. Maybe gambling can give profit but few days only. For long time seems difficult to happen. Winning isn't always in our hands.
If you are able to know to get out at the right time then you can make some profit gambling in the long run and i am wagging bet in sports for a very long time and with experience i do know what to do and what to expect in it and i am having a good profit with it. So it is possible to be profitable in the long run.

With sports betting, you can do that.. However, with other gambling games like slots, you definitely cannot do that because short or long term play doesn't matter at all because it is purely founded with luck!
2050  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: May 15, 2017, 11:26:27 PM
Never possible to earn steady income from bitcoins due to price volatility factor attached with it and your income will keep on varying depending on the price of bitcoins and its also an big risk to depend only on income from bitcoins so the best option would be to have a day job and keep bitcoins as an additional source of income.
to me i think the only way through which we can get the steady income s signature campaing but from there we can only get a little amount of bitcoin which can only good for our pocket money. while from trading we cannot get a steady income.

The thing is, you can do well in signature campaign and save earnings then equip yourself with the knowledge and skills of trading to even grow more your bitcoins through trading.
2051  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: May 15, 2017, 11:23:32 PM
Bitcoin for short term and gold for the long term as both of them are the best form of an investments gold has already proven its potential and even bitcoin is moving in a positive direction so both of them seems to be an best place for making an investments.

Yes, this is a good allocation for long-term and short-term investments in order to profit and minimize the risk of losing funds.

If you want to make huge profits in short term then that is only possible with bitcoin as the price of bitcoin is too volatile that will help you in making quick profits in quick time and if you have enough patience then you can go for gold to make profits in long term.
Despite fluctuations in the price of gold and a rise in the price of bitcoin, I believe that gold has more stability and is suitable for quiet investing.

Yes, gold is stable and is for the long term investment. You cant just but gold now and sell it in few days or weeks for a huge profit but  you can do so with bitcoin. However, the latter is more riskier though. Act with caution.
2052  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: May 15, 2017, 11:18:43 PM
For me in order to have an easiest way to get profit from gambling is you should have a motivation to win and if you already gaining wins, you should stop immediately and take your winnings, which served as your profit. That is a good situation to do because if you drown yourself playing betting games until midnight, nothing will be a profit but a big loss and disappointments.

So true. Too longtime in casino, will make us want to keep playing, even though we've won. As if everything will belongs to us in one night.
Casinos cannot beat all players just for one night, it doesn't matter to them if there are dozens of gamblers who are winning as long as there are hundreds who lose their money, at the end of the day casinos are still up and that makes them extremely profitable.

Because of the house edge advantage, the casino will overall win over all the players. That's already calculated even before the casino is open for public. Otherwise, there will be no casinos that will thrive over the years.
2053  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: May 15, 2017, 11:10:23 PM
I don't think that gambling is wrong if you are gambling with a small amount that you can afford to loose but its really wrong if you are addicted to it and if depending only on it for living and if that is the case then you are putting your life at very big risk.
That is true but with some people there is another problem and that is they when start gambling with smaller amount then they start to love gambling and in that they spend the whole day and in that timing they spend all of their money and they do not leave any thing for their family and lose everything so in this way it is not good.

That is really the worse thing that could happen to a person who is getting hooked on gambling. It's not wise to gamble one's family money because it will most likely you will lose that money than winning.
2054  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: May 15, 2017, 10:34:43 PM
Bitcoin for short term and gold for the long term as both of them are the best form of an investments gold has already proven its potential and even bitcoin is moving in a positive direction so both of them seems to be an best place for making an investments.

Yes, this is a good allocation for long-term and short-term investments in order to profit and minimize the risk of losing funds.

If you want to make huge profits in short term then that is only possible with bitcoin as the price of bitcoin is too volatile that will help you in making quick profits in quick time and if you have enough patience then you can go for gold to make profits in long term.

Gold requires a lot of time to earn something, and at a price almost the same as bitcoin, but it's still more reliable and trusted more.

I agree with you mate. And it is wise to invest to both if you really have that capital.
2055  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: May 15, 2017, 10:33:56 PM
Gambling is wrong, if we continue to do so by risking money we have from hard work. While in gambling only two: win or lose. When we win we are happy, if lost that's risk.
There's no two possibilities in gambling as you say.
It is not true that you say separately to win or lose.
There is a new possibility, neither to win nor lose is just to have fun.
Having fun wont change the fact that you are going to win or lose at the end.

I don't think that gambling is wrong if you are gambling with a small amount that you can afford to loose but its really wrong if you are addicted to it and if depending only on it for living and if that is the case then you are putting your life at very big risk.

Agree. I don't even think these people don't know these fuckin simple reasons. Or they're just trying to remain blind and deaf. They should just bet all they have once so if lost then it will be a big lesson in their lives.
I don't think these types of people will learn lesson, most probably when they lose all they will borrow more money and get into deeper problems.

i think visiting casino and playing gambling is not a problem but the real problem is that most of the people do not have proper techniques how to  play gambling, which causes lose to them and then they blame gambling. although gambling is a game just like other games where one have to won and the other to face the lost. but in fact if we are not playing in a proper way then there are more chances to lose money in gambling and then we are blaming people but not going to modify our method of playing gambling.
There is only one technique for gambling - gamble only you can afford to lose. People usually forget that.
When it was thought that gambling was the destiny of a rich man and a gambling player showed his high status in society. But today it is almost a disease of all mankind and even those who can lose the last money in their home budget.

As long as you are just playing in moderation and just for entertainment, then you are good in gambling. Gone were the days that it is only open for rich people, with the advent of bitcoin, all kinds of people have already chance of gambling for entertainment even with no to low capital.
2056  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: May 15, 2017, 10:32:07 PM
for me, there is no easy way to earn profit from gambling. gambling is pure luck so if you want to earn profit fast, gambling is for you. but also, you can get rekt in gambling instant. so very warry about this thing. you should know your limits and have a target profit.

If you are an just an ordinary gambler don't expect that there is an easy or easiest way to use gambling as your profiting tool. We know that every legit way of earning is hard and with gambling it's even riskier because of the chance that you will lose more instead of winning more. Don't look for an easy way, just gamble the way it is.
You have a point there is no easy in gambling the more risky the more profit you can gain but depends if you are lucky..
But there are some site that you can gain profit easily like sports betting you can easily analyze who are the team has strong and good stats.  unlike other game that you can not watch the previous game. .

There are people that thinks and says that sports betting is an easy way of getting profit. Maybe they were right as long as they are getting good profit there because you will choose the winning team and of course you need to choose what will be in favor with the odds. I guess we should consider sports betting to be an easy way of getting profit.

The sports betters will not just bet based on odds. Becasue nowadays the game result will not depend on odds. We are getting so many unexpected results in all games. So we need some basic knowledge on sports to do sports betting. And yes it is profitable if you compare it to casino games. Many people are making money from this sports betting.

There are sports bettors that mostly focusing on odds because of the amount that they will get. And for those sports bettor experts it is only a very basic and easy thing for them but not for me. That's why there are even more sport bettors rather than with any other betting game because you can do some analysis which will be in your favor.

Sports betting has some sort of control depending on how you really know the game, team, and the players. However, in other games like dice and slots, you have less control of it.
2057  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: May 15, 2017, 10:30:43 PM
When a person goes into excitement I play gambling very difficult to control myself and will be established at the right time. It is impossible because of this there is a very strong negative word about gambling and all this because of the fact that players can not control themselves.

So your mental in gambling needs to be reviewed, I mean here is you have to try to go to a higher level that's to assume that in discipline there is no difference between working with gambling. You need to change your mindset about emotional control and think gambling is a golden field that can be dug only with seriousness.

i think he need to change his mindset like you said, learn some lesson about emotion controlling and don't think that gambling as our source to earn money. gambling is just a game that we need to enjoy while we are playing gambling. maybe for once, you feel its really difficult to do but you need to trust your self that you can do with easy so you can start over and over again to control your emotion and yourself.

That is true! From the word game and entertainment, it should not be treated as a source of income. Unless you are a professional on that game like professional basketball player, boxer, swimmer, gambler, and the like!
2058  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: May 15, 2017, 10:29:03 PM
Frankly it's so hard to stop gambling for good especially when gambling is already become our habit. Most people will leave gambling after they faced some bad experiences and they got a big problem because of it. But the possibility to stop gambling for good is exist and it depends on how hard we try to do so.
It is really not easy to quit the gambling at once if someone want to stop gambling then they will need to involve in any other activities which will reduce his timing in gambling and which will make him interesting there after that the chances will appear that this person will leave gambling or reduce the habit and will remain not addicted.

That is right and I wanna add that we should always bear in mind and heart that quitting on something that you already get addicted to is a process. Hence, you cannot really quit gambling in just one day, it is hard but and it takes some time, discipline, and perseverance to quit.
2059  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: May 15, 2017, 10:26:10 PM

I'm not sure about that. Maybe gambling can give profit but few days only. For long time seems difficult to happen. Winning isn't always in our hands.

i do not think that gambling can be profitable in long term because gambling is totally dependent on luck and luck is not always the same, sometimes luck favor a person but sometimes it does not favor and due which sometimes that person win and sometimes lose. But it is another thing that if a person win that much amount on which he can spend long term in life then for those we can say that it is profitable in long term.
to me i think it is different from person to person. those people who have good experience in gambling and they mostly play gambling as professional. for them gambling is their main source of income and therefore for them gambling is profitable even in long term, but those people who just play gambling for fun and enjoyment.  so for such people gambling more risky.

Could not agree with you mate! I have a friend who is a professional gambler and he literally does it for a living. However, when I try to ask him to train me, he said to me that I am not fit for it after several months of training. Meaning, it is really about the person's attitude and risk appetite. When we are talking about risk, you already know what I mean.
2060  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: May 15, 2017, 10:10:07 PM
The main idea behind the term gambling for fun is whenever we failed to get profit  we won't use more money or effort to chase our previous lost. We will stop when we lost our starting balance and we will save some of our profit for later use, whenever we won. Even though people plays gambling for fun, for sure they need to win the game too because win is the part of the fun itself.

Agree with you mate. Gambling is design to win and to lose. However, due to the house edge advantage, the casino has more chances of winning than the gambler.
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