You definitely don't sound like a native speaker. The "Jack Murray" page looks fake as hell and is unintentionally hilarious. It'll probably work better for you if you just take it off.


If you deposit sufficient funds in an escrow, then I guess all the fake personal info could be forgiven heh

Care to share which trusted member(s) are you in talks with? I don't think there's any reason to keep that a secret.

Oh, for sure. It's actually funny how many regular lottery players would have a strong disdain for gambling, somehow thinking the lottery does not fall into that category.
That's just how the perception is formed: if everyone is doing it and it's state-endorsed then it's all good. But any other form of gambling is for crooks and degenerates


Fair enough, but they could still just finance any good causes from taxes, but there's a reason they prefer the lottery.

Not sure if this thread is monitored, but re-posting for visibility. If the affiliate program does not include UK sign-ups, are any other countries excluded as well?
There doesn't seem to be any related info on the 'affiliate' page.

Topic and poll inspired by another thread - question:

Do you play national lottery games (Powerball, EuroMillions, Lotto etc)?

My view on big, often state-owned lotteries is they're designed mainly for 2 reasons: to make a profit and as a social tool that sells dreams of instant life change and massive wealth to the masses to keep them in line.

Most people are not satisfied with their lives and they need some sort of hope for the future to keep going and to prevent themselves from turning into crime, falling into depression etc. However messed-up your life might be, there's still hope that buying a cheap lottery ticket could potentially turn you into a millionaire (or even a billionaire) overnight. That's a powerful tool.

But the reality is, such lotteries usually have way worse odds than any casinos or gambling sites. So, mathematically speaking, you're better off gambling your money there.

Thoughts?

True, but that being said, every (or almost every) casino goer or other gambler is at least aware that odds are not in their favour and that's not the reason they engage in gambling.

The major appeal of casinos, be it physical or online ones, is probably the entertainment and the dopamine rush, while nation-wide lotteries with huge winnings sell people hope and possibility (statistically impossible but still) of changing their lives in an instant without any effort.

That's true to a large degree - apparently the majority of adults in the UK play some sort of lottery games despite very low odds of winning. Most people may not be familiar with the concept of EV, but they'd still care if EV was high enough, i.e. a lot of people would not be interested in taking a $1 bet when they could win $1 million, but the odds of winning were 1:10 million, but probably everyone (maybe except religious Muslims) would take it if the odds were 1:10 (not that it'll ever happen). So the higher the EV, the more they care.

This website is one big red flag:

1 - no clear rules, i.e. regarding min bid increment
2 - no escrow - obviously no serious person would just send their bitcoin to an anonymous person with a newbie account. If you have good intentions - it's no-brainer to use an escrow at least until you build up some reputation on this forum.
3 - AI-generated image and personal description sounding like it was written by an English non-native speaking 10-year-old
4 - extremely basic design and poor wording (see point above) - you'd expect much more from someone claiming to be a former Google/Facebook developer
5 - "I am a proud polydrug user with experience in many classes of drugs. These days I stick to the law to the best of my ability." - LOL

Whoever deposits there - deserves to lose their funds.

Sorry for not being clear - I didn't mean a situation where active participants are trying to switch to a different campaign, but when one person applies for a spot in multiple campaigns. In such case, it's probably easier for a manager to just ignore such applicants as there's no certainty they will actually be interested in taking the spot if accepted.

In the comments above people are (correctly) comparing it to applying for a job in "real life". Well, "I'm not entirely sure if I want this job. I applied for multiple other positions and want to wait and see what they say" - is probably not something you would want to say during the job interview

When there's a large demand for campaign spots, and if there are plenty of quality posters to choose from, managers can afford to be picky.

That's nonsense and I don't think you believe it.
Let's see:

You can roll a dye once for $1 but if you win you get $1 million. You would take that bet, wouldn't you? And you would take it because of its massive, positive Expected Value. You can refuse to use the term "EV" for non-recurring bets and replace it with any other term if you wish (what would it be?), but it is what it is.

Well, as per the scenario laid out in the OP, you can only roll the dye once. The probability of winning is therefore only 17% and of losing 83%. So there's also a logic behind not taking such bet.

ETH można wybronić tym że samo posiadanie ethereum nie gwarantuje udziału w nagrodach za walidację bloków bo tak naprawde dostajesz nagrody za prowadzenie noda, nie za sam fakt posiadania ethereum. Wymagany depozyt to 32 ETH i, jeśli sie nie mylę, przy stake'owaniu solo udział w nagrodach nie jest proporcjonalny do posiadanego depozytu (tzn. dostaniesz tyle samo czy masz 32 eth, czy np. 50 eth).  Oczywiście inaczej to wygląda przy stake'owaniu w poolah czy na CEXach.
Dodatkowo sieć Ethereum jest zdecentralizowana i cena tokena nie zależy od wyników finansowych żadnej organizacji.

Otwarty atak SEC na ETH czy na tokeny giełdowe jest/byłby nieco dziwny bo crypto oparte na PoS czy tokeny giełdowe istnieją już od bardzo dawna przy cichym przyzwoleniu SECu.

Ja osobiście postrzegam SEC bardziej jako narzędzie do działań politycznych w szerzej pojętym interesie USA, niż jako instytucji której nadrzędnym celem jest ochrona inwestorów. Dlatego nie spodziewam się żadnych konkretnych deklaracji co do tego czy ETH jest, czy nie jest "security" - bo wygodniej im stać w rozkroku z bacikiem nad głowami i czekać jak sytuacja się rozwinie.

Atak na BNB jest o wiele bardziej prawdopodobny w ramach rozgrywek USA Vs. Chiny (wg teorii że Binance powstał i rozwinął sie dzięki wsparciu chińskiego rządu). Nie sądze żeby Amerykanie byli specjalnie chętni pozwolić Binance'owi na przejęcie kontroli nad światowym rynkiem krypto.

This is just a simplified, easy-to-understand example of a potential real-life scenario, such as e.g. a sports bet with miscalculated odds (as mentioned in the discussion somewhere above), where you don't have any guarantee that a similar opportunity would happen ever again.


The EV formula presented is widely used in many areas, not only in gambling (i.e. as a business decision-making tool), and does not only work when you have an unlimited number of attempts and does not represent a guaranteed outcome.

But yeah, if you want to see +BTC1.04 average profit on each bet, you'd need to be able to place an unlimited number of bets. But that's not what this thread is about.

I agree, if it's a major problem for campaign manager, they could just add an extra rule in the campaign post. But I vaguely remember from the past that some managers would auto-disqualify applicants who applied for other campaigns simultaneously. I was away from this forum for a few years so just wanted to check if there are some unwritten rules nowadays.

Works fine for me, so it has to be something on your end. Try the usual - clear cache and see if it helps. If no luck, try a different browser, I use Brave and occasionally I have problems with some websites not loading properly or at all, but freebitcoin is not one of them.

Just an update for those interested. I knew there must've been some formula for determining bet size and I wasn't wrong. The good old Kelly Criterion could be helpful here (something I completely forgot about) and the formula goes:

f = p-(q/b)

f - is the fraction of the current bankroll to wager.
p - is the probability of a win.
q - is the probability of a loss (q=1-p).
b - is the proportion of the bet gained with a win

So in this case:

f = 0.17 - (0.83/11) = 9.5% of the bankroll

That's much lower than I expected. And of course, applying Kelly Strategy is not a guarantee of making a profit, and the strategy is designed to do better than other strategies in the long run, so not necessarily the best way of determining a single, non-occurring bet.

What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?

I could argue both ways:
From the managers' perspective - it's probably a major inconvenience if accepted participants are actually not interested as they went with a different campaign.
From the participants' perspective - applying for one at a time could mean available spots in other campaigns can run out while they're patiently waiting for a response from campaign manager (which can take ages, or they could not respond at all) - which also doesn't sound very fair.

Thoughts?

Looks like the Hunnyplay campaign was re-launched with updated payment rates. That's a significant pay cut compared to original rates, but still quite decent.
As per the description, it's OFNP but only if some of the currently accepted participants decide to leave. Edit - it's now CFNP.

Source:

Hey icopress. I'd like to apply for a spot, for both signature + avatar (whichever's available):

Username: pawel7777
BTC SegWit Address: bc1q79vqvnghljgu926g7gtuhnncq560kc24cur43t


I'll wear the signature/avatar once accepted.
I will edit this post and cross out the above if accepted spot in another campaign.

Not to sound rude or anything, but if you can't scrape together a $100 maybe you shouldn't be thinking about investing just yet and instead focus on developing skills to increase your earning potential. Just saying.

That being said, I think eToro allows deposits of less than $100, I think the minimum was $10 (depending on your location and deposit method) but not sure - but might be worth checking. And remember that majority of traders on such platforms would lose money.