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2161  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Wattmeter Antminer T17 and T19 on: September 05, 2021, 12:16:33 AM
Some custom firmware like Vnish and BO+ give you somehow an accurate wattage reading, it will still be in the -+2-3% range I guess, so if you are looking for a very accurate reading you will need a hardware watmetter of some kind, however, keep in mind that most of these meters are not rated for the power consumption of these miners, you will need something that can handle 3000w.
2162  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Hiveon on S9 jumps offline/online and back on: September 04, 2021, 10:30:14 AM
You need to flash the stock firmware by bitmain, point the miner to a different pool, let it run for a few hours and then post the complete kernel log here.
2163  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: I can't with my Antminer S17+... HELP on: September 03, 2021, 02:18:36 AM
Code:
2021-08-29 08:46:33 voltage[0] = 1940
2021-08-29 08:46:33 voltage[1] = 1960
2021-08-29 08:46:33 voltage[2] = 1960
2021-08-29 08:46:33 working_voltage_are different
2021-08-29 08:46:33 shut down

Post the complete kernel log, each hash board will have a product id of some kind in the begging of the kernel log, but to jump to the end of the story, the stock firmware is very strict with the board voltage which is stored in the EEPROMs, using custom firmware will likely fix the issue, Atermis3 mentioned BO+, I also know that vanish ignores the voltage readings and will work as long as all hash boards are the same model.

If however using custom firmware does not fix it, it could be a PSU-related issue whereby the PSU simply can't handle 3 hash boards, you will need to test the miner with a different PSU shall the prime persist with using custom firmware.
2164  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: ATTN: Mikeywith MINER wont connect on: September 03, 2021, 12:14:03 AM
sha 256 or sha 256 boost

All of the S17 pro firmware versions are asicboost.

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what firmware if any

All the stock versions are pretty the same, the latest one has tighter security which can go against your desire when you want to change the firmware so it's not recommended.

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how to determine what version i have

In the miner status page, pay attention to the date.

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to flash or not flash

If it's working no need to flash.


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I really would appreciate some help.  My miner will not connect to my network.  I order another modem/router that will be here tomorrow, its a netgear 3.1 Surfboard  My current is a netgear C3700 3.0 Docsis.   But this router seems fine for everything else.  I have tested my ethernet cable it is also fine.  On occasion my miner will be found on my router interface under "allowed but not connected". But most time it does not  register at all. 

It's very unlikely that your router is causing this issue, it could be some IP conflict going on, it would be best to set a static IP for the miner which is outside of the router DHCP range, if you don't know how to do that just watch a few videos on youtubeظ
2165  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Problem with my antminers T17+ on: September 01, 2021, 12:56:14 AM
mikeywith If you can help me through TeamViewer, I'll really appreciate it, I will contact you later through DM, and if you want to charge anything please let me know. I understand that knowledge has a cost.

As mentioned early, I will do that for free, no problem, you might just have to stay up a bit late or wake up a bit too early so we both can be online, I am not sure about your timezone so that shall be the only problem.

This one is your problem ViaBTC pool is different from F2pool you won't get any reward on F2pool by mining on ViaBTC pool you should see a reward in your own ViaBTC pool account.

He posted a screenshot of Viabtc not showing any workers, the f2pool was probably a typo, honestly, his problem is a bit strange.
2166  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Innosilcon is trying to get rid of heavily used miners on: September 01, 2021, 12:00:14 AM

You are right with the firmware lock, but this is a straight-out scam if you ask me, these were supposed to be "manufacturer refurbished", the ones in the video don't look anything like it, in fact, REAL refurbished miners are a lot more expensive than clean used miners, a while back used S9js were going for $250 while the refurbished once were going for at least $400, but those looked as good as new, no scratches, no lost screws, everything seemed like brand new, the miner in the video is a Used Miner with C- condition, selling it as a refurbished piece is nothing but scam IMO.

2167  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Miner on: August 31, 2021, 10:59:19 PM
You could revert to traditional mining where the ASIC captures block reward in full

Instead of mining as a pool

Of course this has downside as you will likely not see a reward within the first two years

The stupidest advice I have heard in decades, someone is trying to run a business and your advice is to sell that business and go to the casino because solo mining with an Antminer S19j is in fact worse than gambling, and no, it's not 2 years, it's 25 years based on the current difficulty, it's a big NO.

I find it funny that Kano did not comment on this, seeing a newbie leading another newbie to the wrong path, instead, he took the chance to advertise his pool. Undecided
2168  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Problem with my antminers T17+ on: August 31, 2021, 08:10:31 PM
I don't think this is an IP/Network related issue by any means, your miners are connected and getting shares accepted, I suspect the worker name is wrong, I can see gonzalezfamily.002 on the miner, but not sure what is the account name on f2pool, make sure you copy-paste the exact account name.

On a side note, the URL you use is for a server-based in China, judging by your account name, you don't seem to be located anywhere near China, use the following if you are in or close to EU

Code:
stratum+tcp://btc-eu.f2pool.com:3333

If nothing works out, go ahead and create a Viabtc account then connect to it, your issue is most likely pool-related, if f2pool doesn't work, ditch it, if however, the problem persists after trying something different like viabtc / poolin or Binance pool, reach out to me via PM and set up Teamviewer/Anyesk I'll help you out at no cost,  but please, try a different pool first.
2169  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Problem with my antminers T17+ on: August 30, 2021, 11:37:25 PM
Why post 3 different posts with little to no arrangment? Not only that it goes against forum rules - it makes it hard to understand the content.

Please delete the two posts and merge them in OP, then post the complete kernel log for each miner. Also i don't like that long password you have on the pool worker, replace it with x.
2170  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Whatsminer firmware: cron for programmatically starting stopping mining process on: August 29, 2021, 01:52:30 AM
I am unsure whether or not this would result in the same level of wearout. I could imagine it depends on the specific implementation of the mining software/firmware and how it handles stopping the mining process. One thing that's different for sure is that fans can keep running a bit longer for cool down and that the control board will not suddenly turn on and off all the time. Given that hash boars are obviously the most important part of the miner this question is something I would really like to get to the bottom of. I'd probably have to ask a hardware engineer or developers of the firmware.

I am glad we both agree that the hash boards are the main focus here, and this is why i mentioned above I don't see how both ways differ, someone mentioned that the sudden change of temperature will negatively affect the solder/themal epoxy, I can't confirm/deny that but if that was true, then still both ways will cause a sudden change in temps, in fact, leaving the fans on will make it even worse.

One thing I can tell you for sure is that if the miner isn't generating heat and the fans still spin and they are in wet weather with high humidity you will be in big trouble, this is probably why Bitmain's firmware keeps the hash boards on (generating heat) even if they disconnect from the internet, something that almost all custom firmware devs changed thinking it's a good way to save on the power bill, which makes sense for someone who has a perfect environment to sustain such a thing.

On a side but related note, Whatsminer community in this forum is rather small, it's only a few of us around, you might want to check the telegram community as it's pretty much a lot more active.
2171  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: August 28, 2021, 11:53:53 PM
especially considering that my question was about what directly affects the profitability to the same extent as the change in the hash rate.

Unless you are planning to build a huge farm with a few EHs worth of hash rate, I don't see how it's related to difficulty. Grin, now jokes aside, you don't need to create a new topic if you don't want to, danieleither has a similar basement setup, his farm is pretty neat if you ask me.



So back to the difficulty, the pace has slowed down from the last post phill posted two days ago, it went from being 5% faster to 2.5%, I am all convinced that the average jumps should be pretty small until next year, everything is lining up this way, if we get a few =>10% jumps then it will be hard to understand what is actually happening.

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Latest Block:   698024  (2 minutes ago)
Current Pace:   102.4923%  (489 / 477.11 expected, 11.89 ahead)
Previous Difficulty:   15556093717702.55                            
Current Difficulty:   17615033039278.88                            
Next Difficulty:   between 17805633247338 and 18068760808083
Next Difficulty Change:   between +1.0820% and +2.5758%
Previous Retarget:   last Wednesday at 4:37 PM  (+13.2356%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   September 8, 2021 at 8:27 AM  (in 10d 8h 18m 40s)
Next Retarget (latest):   September 8, 2021 at 1:08 PM  (in 10d 12h 59m 55s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 13d 15h 49m 46s and 13d 20h 31m 1s


2172  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Confused between mining and holding on: August 28, 2021, 09:53:50 PM
while HODL is easier (and riskier too).

I find it hard to agree with this point, HODL is a lot less risky, you just need a proper hardware wallet to "store" the coin, your risks are limited, predictable, and avoidable, with mining, however, I can name tens of risks associated, many of which are not controllable by any means, people have no clue how hard is it to maintain a mining farm, but worrying about theft, fire, damaged PSUs, dead fans, heatsinks falling and all that is a lot of headaches and a lot of risk to be taken.
2173  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Now is definitely an excellent time for personal mining on: August 28, 2021, 02:22:02 AM
I think holding is better then mining and facing different  types of problems and pay a charge every month.  But i dont understand why people are afyer Mining.

In some rare cases, mining is a lot more profitable than HODLing, remember that mining generates passive bitcoin, hodling does not (unless you are farming it in some stupid shit), so if you can buy 1 BTC worth gears today, and end up with say 1.5BTC after 12 months, hell ya that beats "hodl", but you need a streak of luck, cheap gear, good quality gear, cheap power rate and great timing for entry.

The sad truth is that most newbies buy the wrong gear for the wrong price at the worst time possible.
2174  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Where to fix your Asic miners. on: August 28, 2021, 01:04:48 AM
So I have another unit down a board.  Looking for repair locations again.  Got a response from Myrig with a ticket # and shipping address.  I searched the address... and it's a UPS store. I'm hesitant 

I honestly think nobody should deal with Myrig for now until they sort these delays and slow response issues (read OP), however, it's normal for the address to be like that, UPS offers "Store mailbox services", which is just another way of saying a PO Box with a full address, so it looks like Myrig are trying to hide their workshop address for some reason, that alone isn't something that will raise a big flag for me, but the other reasons mentioned above are pretty serious.
2175  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Whatsminer firmware: cron for programmatically starting stopping mining process on: August 27, 2021, 10:04:24 PM
I am unsure how well this scales and if there are any security concerns running outdated firmware on a large number of devices. I may be getting some newer Whatsminers (like M30s) down the line as well and they might not be able to run outdated firmware. If the manufactures only stopped closing ssh ports all the time Huh.

The new models come with SSh disabled by default, so it will be very unlikely to get SSH access on those, and yes, of course there is a security concern when SSH is enabled, it isn't as bad as publishing your email and password online, but it's an extra door for hackers to try and break, and most attacks on miners come via SSH which is why most manufacturers started to disable SSH in order to provide less support to their clients/ SSH victims.

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controlling the power input could harm the hardware in the long run. So I am hesitant to try this. Or am I wrong in this regard?

I can't tell whether it would harm the hardware or not, but how does powering the miner off and pausing mining differ from one another? when you pause mining the control board will get the PSU to stop feeding power to the hash boards, so in other words, it's almost exactly similar to physical shutting the miner down as far as the hash boards are concerned.

2176  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Asics + 4G internet / Is this working? on: August 27, 2021, 10:57:01 AM
BTW with a 5G instead of 4G, would latency be better? (I know it's a noob question, but I usually got internet with fiber or wired phone)

In theory, it should be an order of magnitude better, although mining doesn't require that super-low latency, 4G as is pretty solid and has an average latency below 70ms according to my own experience, and mind you, the infrastructure here is not the best, so I doubt you will have any issues mining over 4G in terms of latency, your issue will be the bandwidth consumption, if you have a few gears that will be doable, if not, you have some issues.

To solve that you could use a mining proxy, but I have yet to find a stable proxy that I can trust with a few PH worths of hashrate, so that could be an issue.
2177  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Be aware of fake firmware floating around. on: August 27, 2021, 10:11:29 AM
As you know full well, running a pool is a service and guess what? Running that service costs money so yes there is a charge.

Makes perfect sense, but the same could be applied for BO, they wrote a whole firmware from scratch, which does cost both time and money, I believe it's only fair that they charge a fee for that, I don't quite understand why Kano would say

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You will also find that most of them use your miner to mine for them.

Well, obviously that's how they get their "fees", of course, it's always a question of whether or not they direct your miner for a longer period than they promise, which is why to those who really want to use custom firmware - they should at least use a trusted version and not something random from the internet.


2178  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Whatsminer firmware: cron for programmatically starting stopping mining process on: August 27, 2021, 01:23:29 AM
Whatsminer tool has remote control functions, one of them is (Suspend/Resume) mining, so that is somewhere to start from, also, if you don't use the latest firmware for the M20s you can still access the miner via SSH, so you can run a script to suspend and resume.



If that doesn't work out, you can always use something like "Sonoff Basic Smart Remote Control Wifi Switch" that controls a contactor that controls the miner power input, these smart plugs come with their own applications which you can shutdown/turnon from anywhere or set a timer for them, they switch costs about 3-5$ and the contactor is probably in the $15 range, not a very expensive project if the software road turns out to be a little bumpy.
2179  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Solo BTC mining - I will hit that block! on: August 27, 2021, 12:49:06 AM
How is that you got 1 in 7733 with 100TH/s ?

It's rather simple, take total network hashrate (can be found using a simple google search, it's not 100% accurate and you can use diff to derive it but not that it matters given the scope) you divide it by your "potential" hash rate , you get a number X, that number is your "share" of the network, it simply means how many blocks on average you would wait to hit a block

So current bitcoin hashrate is around 130EH or 130,000,000 TH, with 100TH your chances are 1 in 1,300,000 for every block, since there is on average 144 blocks a day, you can divide that by 144 and you get 1 in 9,027 for TH. The difficulty / total hashrate was lower when the member above did that math, just goes out to show how a few days can make a lot of difference.

Now that you know you only have 1 in 9k chances mining with 100TH, you can apply the same math on your GPU, how fast does it hash, maybe 50MH? that is 0.00005TH, your chances per day will increase from 9027 to 18,055,555,555, that's nearly about 20,000,0000% less luck, mind you, 1 in 9027 is already as bad as it gets. Undecided
2180  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Where to get S19 Pro PSU's? on: August 26, 2021, 10:30:43 PM
Grace on telegram @gracezhou1993 is a great source for spare parts, she usually has stock for everything, although I'd suspect the price to be on the high end for the 19 series PSUs because 1- many people reported issues with their PSUs so the demand is high 2- Bitmain doesn't make a whole lot of them, so I think the result is fairly obvious.

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