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2261  Economy / Gambling discussion / ⚽ [POLL] ENGLISH FA CUP 2023/24 TOURNAMENT - Discussion Thread on: January 05, 2023, 10:38:30 PM
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This thread can be used to discuss anything related to the FA Cup tournament but keep in mind that low-quality posts will be deleted alongside posts from attention-seekers, signature spammers and trolls.

It is now the 3rd round of the competition which mean the first games featuring the Premier League clubs has started. Here is the full fixture list of FA Cup 3rd Round games to be played between 5th-8th January 2024:

Thursday 4th January
Crystal Palace vs Everton

Friday 5th January
Brentford vs Wolverhampton Wanderers
Fulham vs Rotherham United 
Tottenham Hotspur vs Burnley

Saturday 6th January
AFC Wimbledon vs Ipswich Town
Coventry City vs Oxford United 
Maidstone Utd vs Stevenage
Millwall vs Leicester City 
Sunderland vs Newcastle United 
Blackburn Rovers vs Cambridge United
Gillingham vs Sheffield United
Hull City vs Birmingham City
Newport County AFC vs Eastleigh
Norwich City vs Bristol Rovers
Plymouth Argyle vs Sutton United
Queens Park Rangers vs Bournemouth
Southampton vs Walsall
Stoke City vs Brighton and Hove Albion
Watford vs Chesterfield
Chelsea vs Preston North End
Middlesbrough vs Aston Villa
Sheffield Wednesday vs Cardiff City
Swansea City vs Morecambe

Sunday 7th January
Luton Town vs Bolton Wanderers
Manchester City vs Huddersfield Town
Nottingham Forest vs Blackpool
Peterborough United vs Leeds United
Shrewsbury Town vs Wrexham
West Bromwich Albion vs Aldershot Town
West Ham United vs Bristol City
Arsenal vs Liverpool

Monday 8th January
Wigan Athletic vs Manchester United



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2262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ POLL ]: Football English FA Cup 2023 on: January 05, 2023, 10:32:33 PM
Updating this thread for the competition this season. It is now the 3rd round of the competition which mean the first games featuring the Premier League clubs has started. Here is the only FA Cup game taking place tomorrow:

Manchester United vs Everton






If Everton lose there is a possibility Lampard will be sacked after the game. Surely with such a dismal record as manager he should be replaced because Everton are not a small club, they have a huge potential.
2263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: January 05, 2023, 08:34:27 PM
There is only one taking place this evening:

Chelsea vs Manchester City

The game kicked-off at 8pm and 33 minutes in to the game the score is 0-0. If Manchester City win they will be just 5 points behind Arsenal at the top of the Premier League table. Chelsea are currently in 10th place and are exactly 10 points (plus goal difference) behind an automatic Champions League spot. Both teams are desperate for all three points.
2264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ BOXING POLL ADDED ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK on: January 05, 2023, 12:04:24 AM
Devout Christian lol. The only church Fury will be going to every Sunday is the gym. Or the pub, but not during camp.
I agree, I am fairly sure Easter will have nothing to do with a decision by Fury with regards to training and the fight date. I am not so sure about Usyk but still am confident if he has the contract on his table, he will sign in whether it is Easter or anything else.

We will not see eye to eye on this therefore better to move forward  Grin

Fury vs Usyk - if the fight goes ahead, in your opinion who will win and in which round?

But Fury was running from Klitschko. It seems to me that he is afraid of Usyk and is not opposed to "drag out" the deadline for holding the decisive battle as long as possible. The fact that he offered Joshua seemed to me initially something frivolous - how could Joshua, after the second defeat from Usyk, agree to a fight in such a short time? It was unreal and everyone knew about it.

Fury on points. I don't think Usyk will get anywhere close to knocking out Tyson but he could win it on points but I wouldn't pick that outcome. The only trouble with this fight is I think it could be a boring one. Usyk is like Mayweather in that's he's a great boxer and very good defensively but not that exciting to watch.
After watching Fury go the distance on a couple of occasions recently, a points win could potentially be on the card but the danger with points decisions is that you never know if scorecard judges are even assessing and awarding properly. If either boxer clearly deserved the win but end up in a draw or dubious victory for the clear loser, then it will become very messy. I would like to see both boxers going for it but overall I think Fury will win before 12 rounds.
2265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: January 04, 2023, 10:50:32 PM
These are the results from the games played this evening:

Southampton 0-1 Nottingham Forest
Leeds United 2-2 West Ham United
Aston Villa 1-1 Wolverhampton Wanderers
Crystal Palace 0-4 Tottenham Hotspur



The draw makes arsenal's points not too far from the clubs below like manchester city and newcastle, i think newcastle played well last night with good defense because i believe they also don't want to drop points and let arsenal take full points, i think this is manchester city's opportunity to get full points against chelsea tonight
If Manchester City beat Chelsea tomorrow then things will get very close at the top of the table.

He was adamantly opposed to selling Mane, but the club went ahead with the deal. In his direct attacking style, Mane was the most effective player. Got Nunez for 100m instead of extending Mane's contract for less Grin
He wanted Mane to stay, the club wanted him to stay but the player made it clear he wanted to leave and seek a new challenge. Rather than allow him to leave on a free transfer they sold him. Nothing wrong with that but not replacing him with a like minded player has been disastrous for Liverpool.

We are seeing Salah's last days because he hasn't been himself since the AFCON.
Well, handing Salah a new contract just 6 months ago for £350,000 per week (making him the highest paid player in the history of the club) was a mistake. They signed him from Roma when he was around 24 years old in 2017, he will never be the same player and will never give them the same amount of goals ratio as he did before.
2266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: January 03, 2023, 10:11:46 PM
I would tend to agree with you on their predicament but ultimately Klopp is responsible for the success and the failure at Liverpool because he selects the players to buy and he selects the team. I honestly believe he should resign at the end of the season even if they do make it (somehow) to a 4th place finish. Salah has faded away after negotiating a massive new contract and nobody can deny that Liverpool are not the same team when Mane is not there.

Do you believe Klopp is out of ideas? He's been here for seven years and there isn't a perfect replacement; he's done a good job over the years. Liverpool's problem this season has been injury to some of the team's key attacking players, forcing them to rely on Darwin, who has one of the league's worst shot conversion rates. As long as Darwin leads Liverpool's attack, the Reds will struggle. If Darwin had converted his chances, Liverpool would be in a much better position this season. I don't think Klopp has anything to do with this poor form of games; he's been fantastic and dominating possession with his tactics. Darwin is incapable of leading a top team. he is worse than Timo Werner.


There are the results from the games played this evening:

Arsenal 0-0 Newcastle United 
Everton 1-4 Brighton and Hove Albion
Leicester City 0-1 Fulham
Manchester United 3-0 Bournemouth
2267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: January 03, 2023, 07:29:08 AM
Liverpool have never looked the same team since they sold Mane. They are going to struggle next season even if they somehow managed to qualify for the Champions League next season. Klopp has been brilliant throughout most of his tenure as Liverpool manager but maybe he should quit at the end of the season and manage the German national team at least until the end of the Euro 2024 competition which will take place in Germany.

The Klopp and Liverpool relationship has probably run as far as it can therefore Liverpool getting a new manager with new ideas and Klopps seeking a new challenge elsewhere might suit both parties.

due to WC, and a very tight schedule of matches, this season is quite open with many surprising results. I think there will be more surprises here, especially because the "smaller" clubs are at an advantage due to the smaller number of players they sent to Qatar, they are certainly much more rested.
I am not surprised by Liverpool's weak games, because their style of play is very physically demanding and without regularly bringing in fresh players, they cannot hope for more significant results.
2268  Economy / Reputation / Re: It sucks that 1xbit still runs on: January 02, 2023, 10:05:33 PM
We are in to 2023 now and 1xbit is still showing no signs of going away any time soon. I wonder what sort of impact they will have in this forum and beyond in 2023. They will most probably run some sort if signature campaign throughout the year (and in some cases maybe even multiple campaigns) that will cause friction between members. As for the number of accusations being made against them, will remain stable, will they increase or will they decrease?
2269  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Get A Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE on: January 02, 2023, 09:56:31 PM
In that locked thread there was a question that was asked by Pmalek: Do these cards work worldwide without exceptions or have you noticed some service providers/countries reject them?

Have you noticed anything of concern or as far as you are aware the virtual cards simply work the same way as physical ones when using them online?

Can you provide some comments about these points:

* Website sign-up page uses reCaptcha (from Google) rather than Hcaptcha or simple bot checker that does not harvest data
* Website terms and conditions do not state who is behind the project and who an end user can take to Court in the event there is an attempt at litigation. Ideally it would have been a company or incorporation

Would you consider replacing reCaptcha in your register/login pages? If you decide to stick with it can you explain why you would want to do so over using Hcaptcha or a simple bot. Also, why are there no ownership details listed in your website terms and conditions pages?

I can understand reluctance on your part if not wanting to reply to the following questions because it could be deemed as business related sensitive data and maybe you do not want competitors to know or maybe your numbers are very low but if you can reply it will give some background in to your business:

Are you able to give the number of customers on your books?
Are you able to state how many cards you have actually sold?
2270  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Get A Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE on: January 02, 2023, 09:17:15 PM
Glad to see this thread in the Services board has been re-launched after the previous one was locked. I made a post in the now locked thread that I think you would agree could do with some clarification and feedback from you. I am looking forward to your reply:


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Regarding the service offered by AlexPCS, I recall posting in his thread a long time ago and I had serious doubts. Subsequently, some members have vouched for him after using the service and to my knowledge no scam accusations have been made against him therefore his service is considered by some as genuine and trustworthy because packages were purchased and feedback was left.

As far as CoinPayCard is concerned, here are some initial observations which I am happy to revise if I have them wrong:

Cons
* As this is a virtual VISA card money cannot be withdrawn from ATMs
* Card load fees at 4% + $1.50 means $10 load will give $8.10 to spend
* $249 annual fee for $5000 monthly spend limit
* $499 annual fee for $10000 monthly spend limit
* At present only USDT is accepted method of payment
* Website sign-up page uses reCaptcha (from Google) rather than Hcaptcha or simple bot checker that does not harvest data
* Website terms and conditions do not state who is behind the project and who an end user can take to Court in the event there is an attempt at litigation. Ideally it would have been a company or incorporation

Pros
* Customers can register a card in any name
* No KYC required before or after registration
* Only email address is required to register
* Customers are issued a card number instantly via your website
* Customers are issued VISA cards
* Customers can add their card numbers to Apple/Android phones to use to make offline payments
* Card load fees at 4% + $1.50 means $100 load will give $94.50 to spend
* $99 annual fee for $2.000 monthly spend limit (probably just about acceptable for anonymous cards)
* Direct dealing with issuing bank, no third party intermediaries are involved
* Promise to make a full refund if cards are blocked

Suggestions
* Reduce the $99 annual fee to around $49 at least for an introductory period
* Reduce the 4% + $1.50 card load fee to 2.75% + $0.99 for an introductory period

I have always cited not having ownership details and appropriate terms and conditions as a sign of major concern and this as a negative in many ANN threads because it has potential to give scope for exit scams but several members expressed views saying it was alright for project owners to remain anonymous. Many or most signature campaign participants are promoting businesses that have anonymous owners therefore it is something that has become acceptable as the norm.

Keeping all I have mentioned in mind, I am confident enough to want to test the service soon. I will provide more comments, suggestions and ask some questions after further analysis in the coming days and look forward to reading comments from you and other members too.

edit: I noticed on your website you stated you do not make money from the 4% + $1.50 load fee and that is set by the card provider therefore my suggestions about lowering the price for an introductory period will understandably not be looked at.
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2271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: January 02, 2023, 08:31:15 PM
RESULT:

Brentford 3-1 Liverpool

There was only one game taking place this evening and what a game it was. This season carries on throwing surprises and what a surprise it was. I thought Liverpool would walk away from the game at least with a point but Brentford hard other ideas. Liverpool sit in 6th place four points adrift of a Champions League spot. This is a serious setback for them and they have now lost 5 league games already this season.

These are the games taking place tomorrow evening. Arsenal vs Newcastle is going to be the game to watch. If Arsenal win they will go ten points clear of Manchester City at the top of the table. If Newcastle win they will move in to 2nd place and will be just six points behind Arsenal. If Newcastle beat Arsenal and Manchester United beat Bournemouth, it will mean the top would be separated by just 8 points: Arsenal 43, Newcastle 37, Manchester City 36, Manchester United 35

Arsenal vs Newcastle United 
Everton vs Brighton and Hove Albion
Leicester City vs Fulham
Manchester United vs Bournemouth
2272  Economy / Reputation / Re: My ignore list got a Christmas cleanup on: January 02, 2023, 03:49:40 PM
Some members mentioned in the past I was somewhat fast giving feedback and/or excluding, it was the festive spirit you instilled in me that made me thank you for the idea. I have not looked at my list yet but I hope I do before the bah humbug spirit takes over  Grin

I'm really glad that my idea was not that bad and helped others too Cheesy

Happy New Year!
2273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: January 01, 2023, 10:21:40 PM
RESULTS:

Tottenham Hotspur 0-2 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Chelsea


Tottenham losing at home to Aston Villa was a surprise. Chelsea managing just a draw at Nottingham Forest was also a surprise. If these two clubs want to make a real push for a top 4 finish and entry in to the Champions League they cannot afford to drop too many more points.

I was very sorry to see the bet. It was new years day it would have been a nice way to start the new year with a win. I am sure you will succeed with several wins before the end of the season.



it was a bet that had a good chance of succeeding, but unexpectedly these two teams that were supposed to be big teams and win that game with little difficulty ended up losing miserably, in case of chelsea that draw and as if it were a defeat, they they are not going to occupy one of the 4 positions, it looks like they are playing just to stay away from the relegation zone
2274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: January 01, 2023, 09:02:01 PM
I think it is very clear Manchester City playing a home game against relegation candidates Everton or Newcastle United playing at home to relegation candidates Leeds United with both teams being satisfied with a draw and one point, is basically a preposterous notion.

Manchester City were expected to comprehensively defeat Everton but their players went out in an effort to disrupt them because they felt their manager Lampard was under pressure and could be facing the sack just as Moyes is in trouble at West Ham United. They will not be happy with a point. Even Newcastle should have beaten Leeds but in a season top teams will play teams lower than them in the table who will fight like it is a Cup Final. Everton and Leeds did this yesterday.

Well done to Arsenal for opening up a 7 point gap at the top of the table with a difficult win at Brighton and Hove Albion but seriously they will have to work hard and keep up momentum if they want to finish in the top four and qualify for a Champions League place next season. Manchester City, Newcastle United, Manchester United, Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea will be chasing them and they will not make it easy or Arsenal.

There is a long way to go we are just 15/16/17 Premier League games in to a 38 game season.

the draw experienced by manchester city and newcastle made them have to be satisfied with 1 point and gave Arsenal a considerable distance at the top of the standings because of their win against Brighton, I saw in the newscastle match that it was a little frustrating for the newcastle players at the end of the match almost all the players fought each other mouth, I think arsenal can breathe a sigh of relief to keep their distance from the two clubs below who continue to overshadow them
2275  Economy / Services / Re: Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE on: January 01, 2023, 12:16:24 PM
You raise a valid concern about KYC and I look forward to reading what CoinPayCard say about it as well as my comments here but going by what they have said their customers will not be asked for KYC. I would assume these would work anywhere online and in-person via Apple/Android phones because they are VISA cards but CoinPayCard should address this too.

They also stated if customers had cards blocked they would refund them. As you said, having no KYC requirements means customers can register using any name they pluck out of thin air and if that eventually leads to a blocking of the card by virtue of not providing KYC then it should also cover the refund promise made by CoinPayCard.

@CoinPayCard please let us know what happens if a card is blocked. I am aware you stated it will be highly unlikely cards will be blocked but in that scenario will you refund the same amount in the same crypto (as it was sent as a load) to a customer wallet or will you replace the blocked card with a new VISA number and transfer the balance of the blocked card on to it?

Up to this point after some basic research, I like the project and think it has potential. Not having to give your real world home or business address in order to receive a physical card has always been something many people would be avoiding as well as giving their KYC to companies who could theoretically be hacked and KYC stolen or even sold by unscrupulous businesses if exit scamming. These concerns do not apply to CoinPayCard so these are positives for me. Apart from the higher end pricing structure and just a few unanswered questions and required clarity on some answers given, I like the concept behind the project.

We don't work that way, all our cards are instantly issued to the end user. So in the backend of the bank and the card issuer, they would see the name that the user, not ours. This makes us not liable for any cards we issue because we are not the cardholder, the user is.
Since the user can pick any name and not register the card in his own, what happens in a situation where a service provider asks your customer for KYC but the client can't do it because the card is registered under a fake name? I am not sure how likely it is for that to happen, but I am just wondering. Would the person be asked to stop using that particular service or do they receive a replacement card?

Do these cards work worldwide without exceptions or have you noticed some service providers/countries reject them?
2276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2022/2023 on: December 31, 2022, 11:04:16 PM
RESULTS:

Wolverhampton Wanderers 0-1 Manchester United
Bournemouth 0-2 Crystal Palace
Fulham 2-1 Southampton
Manchester City 1-1 Everton
Newcastle United 0-0 Leeds United
Brighton and Hove Albion 2-4 Arsenal


These were the last games of the year that took place today (new years eve). Manchester City and Newcastle United dropped points but Manchester United and Arsenal managed wins. Here is the Premier League table as it stands on the last day of 2022:

2277  Economy / Reputation / Re: 5000 good posts reported - we can all do it too! on: December 31, 2022, 10:53:50 PM
That is it, the one I referred to was the one in the image. The OP, yourself and several other members have seriously excelled at this and it should make the rest of us ask how many reports should we be making. I mentioned elsewhere in a different thread I need to report more, hopefully I will be able to. Even though I would never reach those stunning statistics, I really should be contributing more to the forum by way of reporting posts.

Thank you once more. The post you had in mind is this one:

2278  Economy / Services / Re: Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE on: December 31, 2022, 10:31:46 PM
Regarding the service offered by AlexPCS, I recall posting in his thread a long time ago and I had serious doubts. Subsequently, some members have vouched for him after using the service and to my knowledge no scam accusations have been made against him therefore his service is considered by some as genuine and trustworthy because packages were purchased and feedback was left.

As far as CoinPayCard is concerned, here are some initial observations which I am happy to revise if I have them wrong:

Cons
* As this is a virtual VISA card money cannot be withdrawn from ATMs
* Card load fees at 4% + $1.50 means $10 load will give $8.10 to spend
* $249 annual fee for $5000 monthly spend limit
* $499 annual fee for $10000 monthly spend limit
* At present only USDT is accepted method of payment
* Website sign-up page uses reCaptcha (from Google) rather than Hcaptcha or simple bot checker that does not harvest data
* Website terms and conditions do not state who is behind the project and who an end user can take to Court in the event there is an attempt at litigation. Ideally it would have been a company or incorporation

Pros
* Customers can register a card in any name
* No KYC required before or after registration
* Only email address is required to register
* Customers are issued a card number instantly via your website
* Customers are issued VISA cards
* Customers can add their card numbers to Apple/Android phones to use to make offline payments
* Card load fees at 4% + $1.50 means $100 load will give $94.50 to spend
* $99 annual fee for $2.000 monthly spend limit (probably just about acceptable for anonymous cards)
* Direct dealing with issuing bank, no third party intermediaries are involved
* Promise to make a full refund if cards are blocked

Suggestions
* Reduce the $99 annual fee to around $49 at least for an introductory period
* Reduce the 4% + $1.50 card load fee to 2.75% + $0.99 for an introductory period

I have always cited not having ownership details and appropriate terms and conditions as a sign of major concern and this as a negative in many ANN threads because it has potential to give scope for exit scams but several members expressed views saying it was alright for project owners to remain anonymous. Many or most signature campaign participants are promoting businesses that have anonymous owners therefore it is something that has become acceptable as the norm.

Keeping all I have mentioned in mind, I am confident enough to want to test the service soon. I will provide more comments, suggestions and ask some questions after further analysis in the coming days and look forward to reading comments from you and other members too.

Hi JollyGood  and Pmalek,

As we issue genuine cards directly via card issuers, we have full control over our card program. Meaning, we issue cards under our own name. Cards cannot be blocked without any specific reason. In a case that would happen (almost impossible) you will receive a full refund.

I don't really know what AlexPCS provides, so I can't compare our services.
We offer real Debit Visa Cards that can be registered on any name. We issue cards instantly via our website. Our cards can be used online anywhere Visa cards are accepted. In Jan, we will upgrade our cards to Apple/Google Pay, so users can also use their cards for offline purchases. At this time, we don't have any plans for plastic cards.
2279  Economy / Reputation / Re: My ignore list got a Christmas cleanup on: December 31, 2022, 08:39:11 PM
I concur, there are chances of causing conflict or issues if ignore lists are made public. And as you said, even though ignoring members you do not agree with could sometimes make sense it might be better to not ignore them to either see if they have changed their ways or to report them if their posts are worthy of being reported.

Going back to the OP, I think it is a good idea to review ignore lists. I will have to revise mine at some point and will even have stop ignoring some members just in order to report their low quality posts. Never know, if they are not sock-puppets, trolls and alt-accounts maybe I can even engage with some of them.

Thank you OP for giving us all the idea of a Christmas clean up of our ignore lists  Smiley

lists are made public and they do not necessarily cause conflict.
I know they are made public by quite a lot of users. However, I've never really seen the benefit of it. Ideally, each user would be vetting the ignore list, and adding based on their experience instead of trusting a list of another users. Posting it definitely has the potential of causing conflict, even if that's not public conflict. I'm not saying it's guaranteed to cause conflict, but there's definitely a decent chance of that happening.

I guess it can streamline the process of finding spammers, and therefore ignoring them. However, that can also be counter productive since the spammers aren't getting reported anymore; instead they're being ignored. Obviously, for users that you don't agree with, ignoring them sometimes makes sense. Personally, I'd rather see what they say, since there's only a select few that I completely disagree with everything they say. Usually, users have some sort of substantial input, even if that's once in a blue moon.
2280  Economy / Services / Re: Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE on: December 31, 2022, 10:27:01 AM
I do know how to look at short post history but providing reference links when making statements saves time. You have been a forum member since 2018 maybe you can consider that next time you quote events or incidents but anyway I found their ANN thread and the post you mentioned after searching their short post history    Grin

I was unaware the OP had more than one thread. Do you have a link to any questions the OP was asked?
You are a bitcointalk forum member since 2017 and you don't know to look at his short post history?  Grin

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