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2281  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Belgium: Afghan migrant, 16, 'rapes worker at asylum centre' on: February 23, 2016, 09:16:36 PM
Again? What the hell is it with these people?

You mean the government officials who allow those 6th century peasants in?

It is not the fault of the Muslim immigrants that they grew up in the fucked up religion and culture.
They should not have been allowed to Western countries.

You want in?  Burn the Quran, draw a picture of a Mohammad raping a 9year old girl or a goat and denounce this religion.
Otherwise, you can go and practice your religion in the desert.

Their religion should be exposed (like all other religions) for what it is. 
A seriously fucked up moral code. 





2282  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 07:54:10 PM
I am sure that if downloading the brain information into a hard drive will be possible, the rich majority will try to keep it for themselves. They will not want to have too many immortals out there.

That could be why you have never heard of it Wink


Immortal might be a bit of a misnomer... The person could still die, like always... Just not death by old age... A bullet, or heart-attack could still be lethal

Though, I suppose if they did a nightly backup of their brain, they could have an emergency backup plan in case of death...

Fairly certain I saw a movie with this... the had these little dots under their eye-lids to show how many times they had been cloned already...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_6th_Day



Now there is your time machine.  You do yearly backup when you renew your driver's license.   When you die, they'll restore your brain to the year you specified on driver license application.  Or it could be a walk-in procedure, you walk in and do a refresh from 10 years ago. 

Sort of like the movie Groundhog Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ

Combined with human cloning they will be able to backup one's brain when he/she is born and then clone him/her, grow him/her, and upload the backup.  So people would never really die.

2283  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested on: February 23, 2016, 07:40:34 PM
I totally agree and it's a social phenomenon also. As homosexualism is advertised more and more in the declining western nations, the number of homosexuals increases. It's just basic demand creation like any other product or social behavior.

So we need a bronze age moral code to keep the number of homosexual in check, is that it?  Or ban homosexuality so that they stay in the closet?  Is that your solution?

Go buy yourself a clue.


2284  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 05:23:42 PM
I've read the Bible, so lemme break it down for you...

God commands you to kill all the witches, Muslims, and fags

If you are a good little Christian, and kill enough fags, God will reward you in heaven

God does not elaborate on these rewards however, he wants it to be a surprise (unlike the Muslims who know they will get 72 virgins because God said so)

Does that sum up Christianity?

Hmm... Is there any correlation to be expected between the number of fags killed and the amount of the reward?

Yes

Quote from: Revelation 22:12
Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done.

Quote from: Matthew 16:27
For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds

Quote from: 1 Corinthians 3:8
Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor.

It is very strange to me that people actually want to defend these rules.  It is like they close off all their reasoning and want to follow them just because they want to.

And they think they have any moral ground to stand on, unbelievable!!!
2285  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 05:16:34 PM
religion of "data processing"? Please elaborate on this. I'm curious about what you mean.

External (to your body) entities (data processing algorithms) will provide answers to all questions humans might have.

In the future (and to some extend now) you rely on these invisible (yet very real) helpers to help you with your day to day activities.
Long time ago, you had to pray to God to have rain, or to find a suitable mate.

Algorithms today (and they will become more sophisticated as more data is collected and processed) will be able to predict rain or find you a suitable wife or husband, predict what is the best course of action regarding any human activities.  When to wage wars, when to have peace.  When to start presidential campaign, when to end it.  You can still refuse to follow these (essentially committing a sin and failing in your task), but over time people will trust more and more these technologies and follow what these external entities tell them to do.  What to eat, what to wear, who to associate with, who to trust, who you should avoid etc. Essentially, a set of rules that will help you with your life.  To keep you safe, out of danger, out of trouble.  You'll not question them because they will be more reliable than your own reason or intuition so overtime you'll accept them as something you better not go against.

We don't know exactly where AI and genetic enhancement technologies will lead us, but it certainly will not be a bronze age myth that we'll be following.  I envision multiple human species through genetic alterations and AI and nano-tech integration.  I know is sounds far fetched, but look at neurosciences, AI and nano research people are doing now.  It is beyond what we could have ever dreamed of 50 years ago.

 

2286  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 03:59:13 PM


Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess? Roll Eyes

I don't have an opinion yet on this. I just know that if the evolution in fact happened, all has been conducted by God's hand.

Great and how do you know that?
Cause if evolution is real could you explain when we started to have a soul?

We started to have a soul at the instant where God's created the human.

So you don't trust evolution theory. Because evolution theory explains that God didn't create directly humans but that humans comes from evolution of other species.

Yes, you're right. In a way or in another, that's God who created everything, except the sins, which all come from the humans.

To af_newbie (I'll stop quoting again and again) : the humanity in general is perfect (at least the unaltered groups). If some people born unfinished, that's their parents who aren't good enough Roll Eyes...

Blame the victim, right?  You realize how far fetched your statement is?  No wonder you follow a bronze age book.
2287  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 03:56:56 PM
Religion provided rules for organizing large group of people.
By this logic, science is a religion and math is it's god

Not God.  God is not real.

Like I said before, I think a new religion of "data processing" will be named sometime in not so distant future.

People already follow this religion but it has not been formally defined yet.

The bronze age religions will be studied by historians, psychologists, neuroscientists  but regular people will stop following these irrational myths.  For the same reason they abandoned other religions of the past.

All of this is part of evolution.

BTW, I think there are many other "religions": capitalism, money, socialism, liberalism, humanism all have similar function as theistic religions.

2288  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 03:47:49 PM
I got a question for you; what makes you less wrong than any of the people you're arguing against? You're constantly telling others what to do, and why their intelligence is biased and wrong, but forget the fact that you're also human and subject to it's imperfections.

I don't tell people what to do.  I just point out that the bronze age religion has no place in today's world.
Its moral code is repugnant.  It provided no explanations on how the world actually works.  Actually, it is dangerous for people to think the world is structured as described in the Bible, the way societies should function as described in the Bible is a disaster waiting to happen with the military technology we have today.  We could easily wipe the whole human race (and most of the animal kingdom) if people with access to nuclear codes would follow the Bible.


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edit: Let me also ask you this: You referred to bible verses in your OP. Do you believe these verses to be true or false?

The verses were the law of the land during bronze age up to until very recently.  I disagree with the moral code preached in the Bible.  I do not believe this book was inspired by God because I don't believe in non-physical, out of this world realities.

The book provides a bronze age view of the world.  There is nothing in that book that is worth a spit.
The whole idea of non physical God is an insult on our senses.

If you are searching for answers on how to live your life the "religion" of socialism, capitalism, liberalism or humanism are probably the most progressive out there.  But even these will, in not so distant future, be replaced by other "religions".  The pace of change will pick up, so expect these new religions to be discussed in some future crypto currency forums in our lifetimes.

Progress would have never been made if people clung to the bronze age myths.

You do realize your hypocrisy, yes? By invoking and participating in this debate you acknowledge the existence of God as a topic of discussion, and admitting the bible has true events which occurred in history.

I participate because I'm offended by these irrational myths.
2289  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 03:46:24 PM
Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So the God must be an Atheist.  

He does not believe he exists.  Oh, wait, never mind...

Why should he ? Let's inverse the roles. why do you think, since the very beggining of the humanity, humans always trusted the religion ?

Easy.  Religion provided rules for organizing large group of people.  That is how early societies were formed around 70,000 years ago when sapiens moved out of East Africa.  Irrational myths provided answers on why people should trust strangers (with the same beliefs).  Religion enabled co-operation between strangers.  One of the reason Sapiens dominated other homo sub groups.



Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess? Roll Eyes

I don't have an opinion yet on this. I just know that if the evolution in fact happened, all has been conducted by God's hand.

And you know this how?  Your gut?

We're perfect. The most beautiful creature in the whole Universe. The only intelligent one. Such a perfection cant be due to the randomness.

Are you sure?  Lots of people are born with mental and physical birth defects.
2290  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So you don't acknowledge evolution I guess? Roll Eyes

I don't have an opinion yet on this. I just know that if the evolution in fact happened, all has been conducted by God's hand.

And you know this how?  Your gut?
2291  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 03:34:54 PM
Lots of funny folks there !

About the soul : think the human body as a computer. The OS is the soul. If you erase the HDD, then the soul is still there. Your soul is your subconscious. You can't deleted it.

We're the best because we're made as God's image, and because who create music, write poems, invent cars. That's not ants for sure.

Someone else can't become you, because he will never have the same soul, the same way to think.

So the God must be an Atheist.  

He does not believe he exists.  Oh, wait, never mind...
2292  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 03:30:32 PM
You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

Just go and study a little bit of biochemistry and see if you still think you'll be alive after you die.

Soul is a fancy, religious word for "you, your identity, your personality etc."  It is a valid question.  How do we determine what constitutes one's personality and identity, is it a ghostly soul?

The answer is rather simple.  Some people who had accidental damage to their brains (due to car or other accidents) come out without knowing who they were.  Their personality completely changes, they might not remember their loved ones, they don't remember themselves.  There is your proof that what you call a soul is purely physical, it is somewhere in your brain.  Probably a set of interconnections that make you, you.  You distort that set and you get a different person.

The most fascinating and scary aspect of AI is that once those interconnections are fully understood and can be up/down loaded to/from another carbon based or silicon life form, you can be reproduced, you can become someone else, someone else can become you.

Question for you?  Why you think "we are the best creature from God"?  Because the Bible says?  Or you have some inside knowledge?

What makes you think God is done creating animals?  Species die and new species evolve to take their place all the time.

When human evolution will eventually split human specie into several species due to unrestricted genetic manipulation, who will be the God's people. The most primitive ones?  The ones without enhanced genetic pedigree?

Your God is becoming irrelevant.  To most scientists God does not enter into their equations.  Their work has nothing to do with God.
It is not even topic of a discussion among scientists.  There is no data, nothing to discuss.

So your belief is very irrational, I hope one day you'll realize it.

There is a new religion that most people probably fail to see.  It is religion of "data processing".  I don't have a word for it.

When you come to Amazon, amazon website recommends you products to buy.  There are many other examples of this. The external to your body algorithms know more about you than you think and you rely on their wisdom and for the most part trust their wisdom.  When you drive your GPS tells you to turn left and you do if you don't know the area.  You ask this external intelligence for help and get it.  As this external data processing algorithms become more complex, people will rely on them to perform even the simplest task of making a breakfast.  Your fridge will recommend what you should eat on that morning, and you'll do it because the fridge will know more about your body biochemistry, predicted hormone levels, your physical state than you.  This extra processing power is popping up in all new products and people accept it without even realizing what is happening.
 
The religions of the past will be studied by historians but will be irrelevant to other people.  

I got a question for you; what makes you less wrong than any of the people you're arguing against? You're constantly telling others what to do, and why their intelligence is biased and wrong, but forget the fact that you're also human and subject to it's imperfections.

I don't tell people what to do.  I just point out that the bronze age religion has no place in today's world.
Its moral code is repugnant.  It provided no explanations on how the world actually works.  Actually, it is dangerous for people to think the world is structured as described in the Bible, the way societies should function as described in the Bible is a disaster waiting to happen with the military technology we have today.  We could easily wipe the whole human race (and most of the animal kingdom) if people with access to nuclear codes would follow the Bible.


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edit: Let me also ask you this: You referred to bible verses in your OP. Do you believe these verses to be true or false?

The verses were the law of the land during bronze age up to until very recently.  I disagree with the moral code preached in the Bible.  I do not believe this book was inspired by God because I don't believe in non-physical, out of this world realities.

The book provides a bronze age view of the world.  There is nothing in that book that is worth a spit.
The whole idea of non physical God is an insult on our senses.

If you are searching for answers on how to live your life the "religion" of socialism, capitalism, liberalism or humanism are probably the most progressive out there.  But even these will, in not so distant future, be replaced by other "religions".  The pace of change will pick up, so expect these new religions to be discussed in some future crypto currency forums in our lifetimes.

Progress would have never been made if people clung to the bronze age myths.


2293  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 02:16:41 PM
You people are showing a lot of hatred towards believers.. Just live and let others live... The other day posting something anti-religious... You people are questioning gods words... If there is no god then where do you think you will go after you die??
Within few days your body will turn into ashtrays... Then what about the soul.. Where do you think it will go??

What's the soul? You ever saw one? Touched one? Experienced one?
Yeah after death there is nothing. Religious know that it's true for animals, why would it be different for humans?
Animals have no souls but we do? Well would you care to explain why and how you know it?

Because we're the best creature from God. We're intelligent, we feel what's good and what's bad, and this is the soul. After your death, your judged and go spend the eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

Just go and study a little bit of biochemistry and see if you still think you'll be alive after you die.

Soul is a fancy, religious word for "you, your identity, your personality etc."  It is a valid question.  How do we determine what constitutes one's personality and identity, is it a ghostly soul?

The answer is rather simple.  Some people who had accidental damage to their brains (due to car or other accidents) come out without knowing who they were.  Their personality completely changes, they might not remember their loved ones, they don't remember themselves.  There is your proof that what you call a soul is purely physical, it is somewhere in your brain.  Probably a set of interconnections that make you, you.  You distort that set and you get a different person.

The most fascinating and scary aspect of AI is that once those interconnections are fully understood and can be up/down loaded to/from another carbon based or silicon life form, you can be reproduced, you can become someone else, someone else can become you.

Question for you?  Why you think "we are the best creature from God"?  Because the Bible says?  Or you have some inside knowledge?

What makes you think God is done creating animals?  Species die and new species evolve to take their place all the time.

When human evolution will eventually split human specie into several species due to unrestricted genetic manipulation, who will be the God's people. The most primitive ones?  The ones without enhanced genetic pedigree?

Your God is becoming irrelevant.  To most scientists God does not enter into their equations.  Their work has nothing to do with God.
It is not even topic of a discussion among scientists.  There is no data, nothing to discuss.

So your belief is very irrational, I hope one day you'll realize it.

There is a new religion that most people probably fail to see.  It is religion of "data processing".  I don't have a word for it.

When you come to Amazon, amazon website recommends you products to buy.  There are many other examples of this. The external to your body algorithms know more about you than you think and you rely on their wisdom and for the most part trust their wisdom.  When you drive your GPS tells you to turn left and you do if you don't know the area.  You ask this external intelligence for help and get it.  As this external data processing algorithms become more complex, people will rely on them to perform even the simplest task of making a breakfast.  Your fridge will recommend what you should eat on that morning, and you'll do it because the fridge will know more about your body biochemistry, predicted hormone levels, your physical state than you.  This extra processing power is popping up in all new products and people accept it without even realizing what is happening.
 
The religions of the past will be studied by historians but will be irrelevant to other people.  


2294  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 08:17:14 AM
You kids need to grow up.

Do you always blame other people?

He was just angry from the start.  Then got kicked in the balls...

He does not even know what religion he is following.  Jesus was an angel, fuck!!  I seriously thought there was another denomination I did not know about. 
2295  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 08:14:39 AM
You kids need to grow up.

Read the book, come back we'll talk about. 

Take care.
2296  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 08:11:29 AM
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No, you're wrong. An example of the below post, the user calls me ISIS and a psychopath. You're not educating, most people already know the bible has fucked up shit in it. It's been published for a few thousand years now.

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Bible says you should be killing gays.  If you don't think this is correct moral code, then you are not following the Bible.  So stop pretending you do.

I said if you follow the Bible moral code, you are a psychopath.  Probably worse than ISIS.


I don't think gays should be parading their homosexuality in the streets for my children to watch and be indoctrinated with. I don't think anyone should parade anything and force their views on anyone. Including what you're doing now.

How can you read the Bible if you cannot comprehend simple posts?  I'm convinced you did not read and understood the Bible.
2297  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 08:06:38 AM

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Crazy shit Bible says
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Kings 6:29 - cannibalism
Judges 11:29-40 - human sacrifice
Leviticus 25:44 - slavery
Deuteronomy 13:12-15 - genocide
Leviticus 10:6 - you will die if you rip your clothes
Leviticus 19:19 - breeding cattle is illegal
Leviticus 21 - some bat crazy rules for priests, do not fuck young boys should be somewhere there....
Leviticus 20:10 - killing of adulterers
Leviticus 20:9 - killing children who dishonor mother or father
Leviticus 24:16 - stoning people if they say God's name
Deuteronomy 28:53 - more cannibalism
Genesis 19:8 - prostituting your virgin daughters
Leviticus 19:19 - not mixing two kinds of material for clothing :-)
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 - more stoning for not being a virgin
Exodus 31:14-15 - killing of people who work on Sabbath
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 - cutting off hands
Deuteronomy 23:1 - you'll not go to heaven if your testicles are damaged
Leviticus 19:27 - no haircuts of any kind
Leviticus 19:28 - no tattoos, or else
Leviticus 11:7-8 - eating pork is forbidden


Matthew 5:29 - plucking out eyes
Matthew 5:30 - cutting off hands
Matthew 10:34 - waging wars by a sword
Corinthians 14:34-35 - women should be quiet and obey
Mark 10:11-12 - only marry once otherwise check Leviticus 20:10 for remedy
Luke 19:26-2 - genocide
Romans 1:20-32 - killing sinners
Revelation 2:5 - more killing
Revelation 2:23 - killing children
Psalm 137:9 - killing babies

Crazy things Bible says, #1:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrWslruLvPo

Crazy things Bible says, #2:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT0TXzeUbAE

Crazy things Bible says, #3:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkl_PefewXc&index=3&list=PLlWVv7VJx45a57Qu74jPvikH78wleNTmd

Crazy things Bible says, #4:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adzi_XbxcPE

Crazy things Bible says, #5:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cb0GNc1WY

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Crazy shit Christians say
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Pat Robertson: Quit Your Job Over Voodoo doll:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X65odgRN6FM

Are you atheist? or a satanist?

Anti-theist and a humanist.  I don't believe in any of the supernatural nonsense.  So Satan and hell does not exist in my world.
2298  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 08:01:28 AM
Hey, listen. What if people would just randomly start posting some bullshit about you personally? Would you be pissed? The audience you're targeting here is everyone who believes in the bible, denominations aside. You're personally targeting users on this forum telling them that they're fucking retarded and disgusting vile human waste.

For what? What the fuck do you benefit from this? Some sick fucking pleasure, you're just as bad as those priests.

I believe this topic was started as a response to the 50+ anti-atheist topics on this forum...

The atheist bashing on this forum has been going on for quite a long time

Is that a reason to continue spreading hate?

We aren't spreading hate... where do you see hate?

We are trying to educate you... so you stop hating fags, etc

I ask that you go through the posts that are in this thread, I've already named a few examples in the initial post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.msg13979448#msg13979448

Assuming you didn't even read my post, here's what I'm referring to:

Quote
"unless you are already a psychopath"
"a collective work of some sick, bronze age psychopaths"
"you are a despicable human being"

edit: I didn't say I hate fags, don't put words in my mouth.

Bible says you should be killing gays.  If you don't think this is correct moral code, then you are not following the Bible.  So stop pretending you do.

I said if you follow the Bible moral code, you are a psychopath.  Probably worse than ISIS.
2299  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 07:54:17 AM
The existence of Santa Clause can be disproven, but the existence of God can only be speculated.

I'd love to see this proof... considering it's impossible

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence#Proving_a_negative

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In 1992 during a presentation at Caltech, skeptic James Randi said "you can't prove a negative". He claims that he cannot prove a negative (such as that telepathy does not exist), but he argues that an individual who claims telepathy exists must prove it...
Santa was created by the Coca-Cola company

Santa is 300+ years older than the Coca-Cola company
You're right, I retract my statement. Santa Clause still does have an origin and story based off people who existed in time, my point is still valid.

You said you could DISPROVE Santa
He's dead, I win.

So is God, I win
How can you say this when you can't prove he ever existed?

Didn't your God died on the cross?
No, that would be God's begotten Son. Don't get it twisted.

Who is one with his Father.  Son/Father/And Holy spirit, you forgot the mantra.  They all died on the cross.
You misunderstand: God created the angels, Jesus was one of them, he sent Jesus to Earth, we crucified him.

What Christian denomination are you?

Jesus was God's son and God himself.  Holy trinity (son+father+holy spirit) that is what Roman Catholics thought me.

So according to their twisted logic, the whole trinity died on the cross.  Like three Musketeers.  One for all, all for one.


You misunderstand: God created the angels, Jesus was one of them, he sent Jesus to Earth, we crucified him.

You misunderstand your own dogma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity

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The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three consubstantial persons, expressions, or hypostases: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit; "one God in three persons". The three persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature".
By that same article: "According to this central mystery of some Christian faiths," which means, some, not all.

Name a denomination that does not believe in the Trinity


I have no denomination, but I believe in righteousness and have a strong moral code. What you folks are doing is purely hateful, calling out others for the sake of attacking them and their beliefs.
I'm ashamed to share this forum with you.

Good for you.  So do I.

You might have a strong moral code, but that code is not from the Bible.  It is based on what you as a person believe is producing least suffering.  That is what most normal people use as basis for their moral code.  There are of course cultural influences as well.

Again nothing to do with a bronze age story book.  At least I hope you are not getting moral code from it.

We are not hateful, we are just pointing out the obvious nonsense.




You can't sit there and assume you know my upbringing. I've come to learn my moral code is pretty damn close to the bible, and whether or not that's true is irrelevant. What you are doing is hateful, like calling someone "nonsense". That's an attack. You're a shit-disturber, nothing more.

Of course it is an utter nonsenseIs is not an attack, it is stating the obvious.
It is a bronze age stories, very vile stories.  Read it all the way to the end.  By the time you are done, you'll be an Atheist.

Why does it offend you?  Why you think it is hateful?  I don't understand.  The book was written by 40 bronze age cave dwellers over the course of 1500 years.  Look it up.  Why would you think it is anything else?  The vile verses are in the OP.  Read them for yourself in your own copy.


Hey, listen. What if people would just randomly start posting some bullshit about you personally? Would you be pissed? The audience you're targeting here is everyone who believes in the bible, denominations aside. You're personally targeting users on this forum telling them that they're fucking retarded and disgusting vile human waste.

For what? What the fuck do you benefit from this? Some sick fucking pleasure, you're just as bad as those priests.

I care about the truth.  You don't.  Your comment about Jesus being an angel is going to the OP.  Stop attacking me personally.  Attack my arguments.  But I suggest you first read the Bible and study your Christian theology just a little bit.  Every Christian child know about the Holy Trinity, but you seemed confused about Gods and angels.

2300  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 23, 2016, 07:42:42 AM
The existence of Santa Clause can be disproven, but the existence of God can only be speculated.

I'd love to see this proof... considering it's impossible

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence#Proving_a_negative

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In 1992 during a presentation at Caltech, skeptic James Randi said "you can't prove a negative". He claims that he cannot prove a negative (such as that telepathy does not exist), but he argues that an individual who claims telepathy exists must prove it...
Santa was created by the Coca-Cola company

Santa is 300+ years older than the Coca-Cola company
You're right, I retract my statement. Santa Clause still does have an origin and story based off people who existed in time, my point is still valid.

You said you could DISPROVE Santa
He's dead, I win.

So is God, I win
How can you say this when you can't prove he ever existed?

Didn't your God died on the cross?
No, that would be God's begotten Son. Don't get it twisted.

Who is one with his Father.  Son/Father/And Holy spirit, you forgot the mantra.  They all died on the cross.
You misunderstand: God created the angels, Jesus was one of them, he sent Jesus to Earth, we crucified him.

What Christian denomination are you?

Jesus was God's son and God himself.  Holy trinity (son+father+holy spirit) that is what Roman Catholics thought me.

So according to their twisted logic, the whole trinity died on the cross.  Like three Musketeers.  One for all, all for one.


You misunderstand: God created the angels, Jesus was one of them, he sent Jesus to Earth, we crucified him.

You misunderstand your own dogma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity

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The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three consubstantial persons, expressions, or hypostases: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit; "one God in three persons". The three persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature".
By that same article: "According to this central mystery of some Christian faiths," which means, some, not all.

Name a denomination that does not believe in the Trinity


I have no denomination, but I believe in righteousness and have a strong moral code. What you folks are doing is purely hateful, calling out others for the sake of attacking them and their beliefs.
I'm ashamed to share this forum with you.

Good for you.  So do I.

You might have a strong moral code, but that code is not from the Bible.  It is based on what you as a person believe is producing least suffering.  That is what most normal people use as basis for their moral code.  There are of course cultural influences as well.

Again nothing to do with a bronze age story book.  At least I hope you are not getting moral code from it.

We are not hateful, we are just pointing out the obvious nonsense.




You can't sit there and assume you know my upbringing. I've come to learn my moral code is pretty damn close to the bible, and whether or not that's true is irrelevant. What you are doing is hateful, like calling someone "nonsense". That's an attack. You're a shit-disturber, nothing more.

Of course it is an utter nonsense.  Is is not an attack, it is stating the obvious.
It is a collection of bronze age stories, very vile stories.  Read it all the way to the end.  By the time you are done, you'll be an Atheist.

Why does it offend you?  Why you think it is hateful?  I don't understand.  The book was written by 40 bronze age cave dwellers over the course of 1500 years.  Look it up.  Why would you think it is anything else?  The vile verses are in the OP.  Read them for yourself in your own copy.


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