Where are all that scam screamers? Now it is a good time to tell them they are all liars - because they couldn't been scamed, just bad traders ... they could have bought DASH whenever they want and still they would have been in profit right now ... all that scam screamers are proven wrong ... no one could have been scammed if they are in the green, isn't that right?  Very good and important point. Dash is now irrefutably and irrevocably exonerated from ANY "scam" accusations for the rest of history.No "collapse" as iCETURD and other losers kept yapping ever happened. Every "bagholder" from 2014 is now redeemed. Reaching the 2014 all time high cleared Dash forever. Eat your heart out, haters  9 DIGITS BABYexonerated? LOL the delusion..WHOA! i hope you get really get rich so you would retire and not scam again... and oh, and stop stealing other coins name go Dashcoin DSH! heheee 100M marketcap! |
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no connections for me
any nodes to add?
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This project needs more devs to take on Evan
Evan can make an army of devs and shills but they cannot destroy Dashcoin DSH besides, as long as Bytecoin is being developed DSH gets a free ride. we don't know what might happen if Bytecoin dies, lot's of maybes. |
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What would happen to Dashcoin if the Bytecoin network were to go down?
It would keep on going. Different chain. Maybe it would stop being a clone and begin active development. Maybe. DSH community is welcome to make that into a Q&A on Monero SE. Other CryptoNote projects are on topic there: One DSH question exists alreadybumping this page from the old thread.. it is just a few pages read to the last page, this will give an insight to new readers regarding the name sabotage by darkcoin aka DASHhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.1320 |
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edited my previous post..
actually it is perfect for my rig with 4x pcie, a 2kw psu can handle 4x 390/390x or 490/490x (when released) at full power.
i just want to assemble and simulate everything in my mind before making a decision.
actually it can handle even more, atm my 4x390x mining etc/sia pulling 1350W from the wall that would make it even better well it is not purely 2k psu in terms of 12v, looking at seasonic psu's they rate their psu in watts in terms of 12v, by using a stepdown for 12v it is technically a little bit lower for 2k for "pure" 12v utilization due to some of it will be used by 5v plus conversion losses , besides my country is in a tropical area so maximizing power capacity = heating up the psu more and heat can greatly shorten the life of the psu. and the socket 775 boards i mentioned just have 4x pcie slots = 4 gpus..if ever i use a motherboard with more pcie slots i will analyze heat and power draw to maximize utilization... until then the convenient and safe side is 4 gpus the dps-2500 is the same wire pin out but is more powerful . The dps-2000 should do six r9 390s,but you do have tropical heat issues. The dps-2500 certainly can do six units even with your temps at 40c i would definitely go for dps-2500 then. buying from afar, one should put a room for upgrade and backup/extra psu's. |
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edited my previous post..
actually it is perfect for my rig with 4x pcie, a 2kw psu can handle 4x 390/390x or 490/490x (when released) at full power.
i just want to assemble and simulate everything in my mind before making a decision.
actually it can handle even more, atm my 4x390x mining etc/sia pulling 1350W from the wall that would make it even better well it is not purely 2k psu in terms of 12v, looking at seasonic psu's they rate their psu in watts in terms of 12v, by using a stepdown for 12v it is technically a little bit lower for 2k for "pure" 12v utilization due to some of it will be used by 5v plus conversion losses , besides my country is in a tropical area so maximizing power capacity = heating up the psu more and heat can greatly shorten the life of the psu. and the socket 775 boards i mentioned just have 4x pcie slots = 4 gpus..if ever i use a motherboard with more pcie slots i will analyze heat and power draw to maximize utilization... until then the convenient and safe side is 4 gpus |
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a stepdown? i didn't know dps2000 dont have 5v
voltage mismatch? i haven't encountered that for 2 and 1/2 years wiith gpu mining.
it's not that i'm just about saving a few bucks, its about component (pico atx, stepdown) availability in my location too..i know someone in the US where the dps2000 with breakout and wires can be shipped, and before the year ends it will be sent to me (to my country)
in my mind, for troubleshooting power, 1st psu is all about booting the os and dps2000 is all about the gpus. thats it (assuming the new breakout will cater for the 5v for the molex)
the all in one dps2000 solution is still not all in one in my mind in troubleshooting power, it is basically 3, the pico atx, stepdown, and the psu itself.
EDIT: i googled dps2000 only have 0.1A for 5v so a stepdown is necessary
Yeah, you'd still need 3.3v as well for the 24-pin ATX connector... Really with things like the RX480 reference boards drawing more than typical current, I just like to over-engineer on the enclosure/power side of things. DPS2000BB's are cheap relative to anything else - and if I can get some really nice boards/wiring from Sidehack to compliment them, I think it's money well spent. I definitely agree with you about availability - and that's why I love getting things from Sidehack, he turns them around quickly and the quality is great. It's a bit trickier obviously when you're non-US, as you need to plan in advance a bit more, but at least for me it's pretty rare that building new machines comes as a surprise - generally I buy in batches. As far as troubleshooting power, I've basically been running first the IBM 2880W PSU's, which I had no problems with except with the breakouts. I switched over exclusively to the DSP2000BB's last year, and they've run flawlessly - but to be honest, the main reason I used it with the GPU builds was because I have about 100 of them not being used right now, and 2000W was just about perfect power-wise. Since all the breakouts and cables are of a known high quality, it just eliminates the #1 issue I've had in the past. And as I mentioned above, I'll probably be double these up to 4k when Optimizer finishes those boards in a few weeks - but not for any reason other than because I have room in the case, it will run much cooler, and give me a bunch of extra PCI connectors. i think i can do with the stepdown for the molex powered risers..but not with the pico atx the only thing that will be powered by the low-cost, low-power, good quality surplus psu are the cheap 775 socket motherboards, quadcore cpus, ddr2 rams and 80gb hdds..the expensive GPUs cannot be harmed with this setup since it will be connected only to dps2000 via powered risers and 6+2 pcie pins.. |
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@ arielbit I have helped European buyers of sidehack's gear. I helped 2 people out see thread below https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1509068.0if you look here I helped euro buyers of the avaon 6's https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1391814.0So if you cut a deal with sidehack I would be willing to help with logistics. My fees were $0 But of course the extra shipping would be on you. I always used the cheapest safe shipping and always was transparent. To Europe shipping was best via usps.com To Canada ups.com was best thanks for the offer and the information, i will keep it in mind..it might become handy in time. but, someone i know in the US is a family member who from time to time sends stuff here, he might even pay the shipping for me, mix it with other stuff in a huge box. I'm in asia BTW. |
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edited my previous post..
actually it is perfect for my rig with 4x pcie, a 2kw psu can handle 4x 390/390x or 490/490x (when released) at full power.
i just want to assemble and simulate everything in my mind before making a decision.
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great, waiting to see that new breakout with 5v, that step down complicates things and adds to expenses. just harness the 5v from the PSU.
as for the motherboard/cpu power, I'd rather use some surplus good quality, low power psu to supply the hdd, and some fans. they can be bought less than half the price of 24pin Pico ATX switch you posted up thread.
Actually, it's still a stepdown - it's just all integrated and sized appropriately. In order to have it compatible with any of the server PSU's, it basically needs to be 12v. Really I wanted something that would make it dead simple to run the risers and clean up the cable mess, and sidehack already had a design in the works that met this need. The problem you have with mixing and matching PSU's is that you could introduce all sorts of issue related to voltage mismatches - it's really why I wanted to have a single solution anyway. Ultimately if sidehack does make the kind of miner equivalent of the pico ATX, it's really geared to be high quality and reliable at a good price, probably not the cheapest solution. That's where my interests are - what's the point of jeopardizing $2k worth of hardware just to save $10 or $20 bucks - I want my base system to be rock solid, so as I swap out cards, I never need to mess with it. a stepdown? i didn't know dps2000 dont have 5v voltage mismatch? i haven't encountered that for 2 and 1/2 years wiith gpu mining. it's not that i'm just about saving a few bucks, its about component (pico atx, stepdown) availability in my location too..i know someone in the US where the dps2000 with breakout and wires can be shipped, and before the year ends it will be sent to me (to my country) in my mind, for troubleshooting power, 1st psu is all about booting the os and dps2000 is all about the gpus. thats it (assuming the new breakout will cater for the 5v for the molex) the all in one dps2000 solution is still not all in one in my mind in troubleshooting power, it is basically 3, the pico atx, stepdown, and the psu itself. EDIT: i googled dps2000 only have 0.1A for 5v so a stepdown is necessary |
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where is the molex for powered riser getting its power? from the breakout board?
Right now the power comes from the 12v supply of the breakout from the PSU, and from the 5v step-down converter to the right of the PSU. It's kind of a clunky setup, and Sidehack is working on a board which will take the 12v from the breakout and break it out to the 12v and 5v that the molex needs - it should be great and really clean things up. great, waiting to see that new breakout with 5v, that step down complicates things and adds to expenses. just harness the 5v from the PSU. as for the motherboard/cpu power, I'd rather use some surplus good quality, low power psu to supply the hdd, and some fans. they can be bought less than half the price of 24pin Pico ATX switch you posted up thread. |
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I've been buying cables from sidehack and they're top notch - MUCH better than anything else you can find elsewhere. Plus it gives you the opportunity to really clean up the internal wiring - here's some of my latest machines running some of sidehack's work:  where is the molex for powered riser getting its power? from the breakout board? |
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I mentioned PSU regarding based on power consumption PSUs can't be a problem, but it was a problem, reading it was burnout. So my conclusion is that cards consume more power that PSU can deliver and because of that those three PSUs died, from the one very logical reason, and it is regarding cards, in this case R9 380 consuming more power than manufacturer recommend, to be precise much more power than manufacturer recommend, and much more than PSU can handle.
Base on years, and years experience, I am almost shore that GPU will be degraded in short future using this miner, with or with out 750 or 2000W PSU. One more time, I am not mining with R9 380 and LBC, I just got complain from the friend who have a farm.
scrypt mining back then (late 2013)i thought my 280x's won't last long..it was mentioned upthread they consume upto 300w. the fans already gave in.i zip tied 90mm fans to them..and still they are still hashing for me, even the overheating one simply won't die. just always utilize/play within the warranty period, and must ROI before it ends, after that sell or mine til it drops. there is no such thing as "consuming more power than manufacturer recommend" for a gpu, there is only maximum power draw. think of it as light bulbs, if it is made as 20w, the power draw will always be 20w. |
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ETC+SIACOIN dual miner is giving more than LBC coin with AMD VGAs, even with woolf "special" miner, who I don't recompensed at all. After 6 month of mining, and just one week using woolf miner and LBC with R9 380 VGAs, my friend/partner lost three rigs, to be precise thee PSUs CM M750 burnout/dead.  LBC is nvidia's territory..specially now at low prices and higher network hashrate. should have bought w0lf's miner early, dump mined LBC for ROI of the purchase. your PSU is the culprit. don't cheap out on that. I have better in development. any stats? buyers of previous version have discounts? Buyers of previous versions will be buying only the bin - while new customers will be buying the miner + the bin, so yes, discounts for previous buyers. is it still under development? ETA? |
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@Lucky - Luciano I can't find anything new from your expose. The problem is that all off you agree that constant torture of VGAs GPU will remains ok and GPU degradation is not possible, even power consumption is way off def max, and all you will agree that this is not important. So sorry I don't agree this is normal, after more than 15 years in components business I can't agree more. @Woolfud I don't know why you insult me, but it is ok, regarding your acts saying more about you thank me. as long as the money flows and covers hardware and expenses.. plus profit..it is okay GPU degradation is possible.. i have one 280x that have a very high temp compared to other 280x, everything is tight and the thermal paste is excellent, i have a suspect - i think it is in the cooler, maybe some metal tubes got loose, i don't know and i don't care..it is mining til it drops. for me a device will only go way off the default max power consumption if there is a problem with the unit. for example: - an electric fan has a capacitor, lets say 1uf if you replace the capacitor with 3uf, the fan will spin faster, the motor will become hot, the windings burns = dead fan - a faulty aircon compressor causes higher power consumption (more than default rating), that's why technicians measure the amperage in the line supplying the aircon or the compressor for troubleshooting purposes in your case the 380's..but it is very unlikely.. in my example the fan and the aircon died because the utility power transformer won't die "first" because it can run, lets say 50 aircon units.. plug those four 380's to a 1250w psu (like seasonic x-1250) and lets see who gives in first  |
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i have an old thermaltake 1500w, it can only power 3x 280x, adding a 4th 280x triggers the protection/psu shutdown..(been mining for me in the past 2 and a half years )
i have a seasonic M12ll 850w running a 390x and a 390..i pushed it a little bit, died brought the 390x with it... i pushed it knowing they are still in warranty..both are coming back to me this week ... but why is there no protection triggered? --> remember, shit happens.
i did the math back then..if i remember this correctly
2x 390/290 at 850w psu
2x 390x/290x at 1000w psu
mining performance is 390x/290x is only a little bit faster and the price was 100+$ more than 390/290...besides you can use a cheaper psu if you go for 390/290 since a 850w can do it...390/290 is simply bringing more bang to the buck.
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Ok, I will simplified for you. 750W Seasoinc (CM M750) 85+ is not enough for 3x R9 380, even all algos work fine, never had any problem? One more time, all algos except your no problem.
not all algos...try scrypt, or raising dcri in claymore dual miner (making the gpu core hotter-more power consumption) i don't own 380 but i have 280x, scrypt is an old algo and miners are already optimized for it. i bought 850w psu (not 750w) back then for 2pcs of 280x so when i upgraded to 290 the psu can take it. and here comes the 390s, the 850w psu is doing the 2x 390 just fine now... always have an allowance, know that in time you might be plugging a more power hungry gpu. a gpu can only go as far as its maximum power consumption it is rated..let's say a 280x max power draw is 300w...no miner/software can tell that gpu to draw 350w or 400w of electricity. so always think of the max power draw a gpu and do the math when building mining rigs, choose psu's carefully (read reviews) etc. etc. |
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ETC+SIACOIN dual miner is giving more than LBC coin with AMD VGAs, even with woolf "special" miner, who I don't recompensed at all. After 6 month of mining, and just one week using woolf miner and LBC with R9 380 VGAs, my friend/partner lost three rigs, to be precise thee PSUs CM M750 burnout/dead. LBC is nvidia's territory..specially now at low prices and higher network hashrate. should have bought w0lf's miner early, dump mined LBC for ROI of the purchase. your PSU is the culprit. don't cheap out on that. I have better in development. any stats? buyers of previous version have discounts? |
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I don't know how the 380 is but the 7970/280X when running them flat-out or Scrypt mining they can pull about 300Watts from the wall.
So using 3 of them with a 750Watt PSU is not recommended. I don't even think most 750Watt PSU have 6 PCIe to power all 3 of the 380 cards.
yeah i remember scrypt mining with my 280x's choosing PSU for mining should put into consideration the highest power consumption a GPU can do...so you can switch to any algo anytime (worry free). the guy with 750w is fine with eth(dual miner too) but lbry miner(optimimized-higher power consumption too) put that PSU to rest. |
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ETC+SIACOIN dual miner is giving more than LBC coin with AMD VGAs, even with woolf "special" miner, who I don't recompensed at all. After 6 month of mining, and just one week using woolf miner and LBC with R9 380 VGAs, my friend/partner lost three rigs, to be precise thee PSUs CM M750 burnout/dead. LBC is nvidia's territory..specially now at low prices and higher network hashrate. should have bought w0lf's miner early, dump mined LBC for ROI of the purchase. your PSU is the culprit. don't cheap out on that. |
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