I understand that scrypt requires a good bit of memory with a fast connection to the processor.  These FPGA miners do not have that, so I think we are unlikely to see a scrypt bitstream for them.

So you want Tom to take the loss instead?

Any ETA on when the bASIC will start production?  This is mainly the reason why Tom needs to create a new thread for this.  Or.. is it still too early for speculations?

I don't think you should get into #3, that would place you in a bad spot legally.

A discount of $300 is acceptable, IMO. However I would like to put myself to purchase others' MMQ's at a comparable price, since I can still run them after the ASICs come out due to cheap(ish) electricity.

I apologize for the harsh tone I took.  I'm sure it's stressful being in your position.  Don't let the trolls bring you down.  I'll try not to be one.

A little over a week ago ngzhang anounced his proposed production of the 'Avalon' ASIC with >= 60Ghs for about $1299 (about double the hashrate of BFL's Single 'SC', and Cablepair's bASIC)

Since then:
BFL have announced their Single 'SC' will now hash at 60Ghs (from 40Ghs) @ $1299
Cablepair has announced their bASIC will now hash at 54Ghs (from 27Ghs) @ $1069 (now selling 27Ghs version @ $599)

Were both BFL and Cablepair originally pricing their units at more than 100%+ markup of the cost of production and development?
Because as i see it they cannot afford to produce these now and make any profit.

Also how have they done it?
1) Are they just doubling the number of boards in each unit? (Only viable option if they have already started PCB production)
Or
2) Have they doubled the number of chips on each board? (Only viable if they haven't started production yet)

In either case i can not see any of these ever hitting the market before Christmas. My money is going firmly back in my wallet until some real devices hit the real world, because all i see at the moment is BS.

Tom, I'm about to buy from you, please drop the joke issue.
I understand how you feel, and how you could take something personal (intended or not) in a time of grief and lash out, but it is not impressing me as a potential customer.

You both may have acted rashly, but there is a time and a place. I recommend you each offer a final apology on the subject and ignore the other party if they insist on pursuing it.

I've got $5K I'm going to spend this week, don't give me a reason not to spend it here.

You are representing your businesses, and most of us are looking for a business that we can trust, and that knows how to deal with issues that come up. This is an opportunity for us to see how you each will behave in the face of an adverse situation, we are watching.

Wow, this asic news makes me excited. I hate BFL, and always loved the idea behind modminer.
Question, when the ASIC's actually go into shipping and become normal orders on the website will prices be raised or stay the same?
The 27gh/s version looks very tasty atm for me.
Also, what exactly, is the upgrade plan available for the FPGA -> ASIC?
It mentions it on site but doesnt explain what it is, is it a straight trade in for the 54gh/s ASIC?
TY

I will probably AT LEAST be buying one of ur 27GH units at some point in time. If I dont wint a FPGA in coming weeks =P HA!
Your company rocks dude!

INABA / BFL_JOSH WHAT DID I MAKE UP? WHAT DID I LIE ABOUT? I HAD JUST COME HOME FROM LITERALLY PUTTING MY GRANDMOTHER IN THE GROUND AND THIS IS WHAT YOU SAY TO ME.


Please everyone - read the dialogue for yourself and make up your mind, for yourselves. Inaba says I lied and said he made a sexually charged joke about my deceased grandmother. If you had just gotten home from your grandmothers funeral and someone says something like that to you - what would you think?




and nothing has been changed at all from either party because your not allowed to edit your posts in Auction threads.

Now at that time - that really hurt my feelings and pissed me off, I was mourning my grandmother and although he did not actually say the "words to the joke"
he passive-aggressively insinuated the joke instead. How would this make you feel?


and How did I lie?




INABA - HOW  COULD YOU FLAT OUT JUST LIE LIKE THIS?

What else could you have meant about those comments? It would be so much better just to be a man an admit you made a tasteless joke that you should not of made. Instead of lying about it and then trying to tie the whole thing in with the products I sell. It's ridiculous man and really I honestly thought much higher of you than to do this.

I am going to contact BFL today and hopefully we can both agree to keep things civil between us. I have tried very hard since we have become direct competitors I have tried very hard not to troll your threads or start negative attacks against you in any way. There are all kinds of shit I could talk and trouble I could start for you guys, but that is NOT my style and I think it's very important that we keep this a friendly competition. Promote BFL and I will promote BTCFPGA. Lets not start tearing each other down, because in the end its not going to matter who fires the first shot - its going to be war, and its trouble neither of us has time for.

If you don't want me posting in your thread, then don't post lies about me in your thread.  

Tell me what is sexually charged about "Thanks grandma"  You keep failing to answer that.  Is it because you know you lied about the sexually charged bit?

Regardless man, the fact is, you're using your dead grandma to shill your hardware.  Talk about sick, christ.  You used it in the auction thread to garner sympathy and you're using it now to garner more. If you really respected your grandma, you wouldn't be on a forum whining about it, you would have respected her memory by not bringing her into your sales pitches as a sympthy tactic (Serioulsy than, this is sales 101 - "Gain the sympathy of your customers".)  One of my grandma's died several months ago, did you see me on here posting about it?  No, because I respected my grandmother AND the people here enough not to bring her onto Bitcointalk for absolutely no reason, especially not to garner sympathy for my business ventures.

I'm sure many people are falling for it (it's 101 because it works), but seriously.  If you're going to use that, you should at least make it plausible.  So again: What sexually charged remark(s) were going through your mind with regards to your grandma when you made that post?

Answer the question and we can move on.