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2861  Other / Archival / Re: Таблица Подписных Кампаний за Bitcoin on: August 28, 2023, 10:23:35 PM
Менеджерам и заказчикам без разницы качество и "неспамность" постов, их интересует охват. Но надо чтить местные традиции. Так что требования к подписантам это с одной стороны прямым текстом: спамьте побольше, а с другой "делайте вид что это не спам"  Grin
И тут консенсус между заказчиками и исполнителями достигнут полный. Иначе я бы видел возмущения не только относительно количества постов, и экзотических условий типа "не дальше такой-то страницы" но и по поводу того, что не засчитываются посты короткие. Как будто только "длинные" сообщения имеют смысл или как будто на форуме (для общения блядь изначально существующего) каждое сообщение должно нести какую-то мега ценность.

Так и сейчас ничего не будет. Мы немного побухтим и всё равно пойдём подавать заявки. Да, не нравится, но пока нам тут не нравится, есть огромная толпа, которая воспринимает это на ура, так что ничего никуда не сдвинется. Просто со временем отдача от форума таким образом сойдёт на нет, но кому интересно об этом думать сейчас?! Потом проекты просто перенесут свои бюджеты на рекламу в места с большей отдачей, да и делов! Так что ничего не изменится. Grin

Так я и не говорю что что-то будет/должно быть. Моя мысль в том, что подоплека этих требований только охват , что icopress и подтверждает. На форум, качество и т.д. заказчикам/исполнителям (менеджерам и постерам) насрать. Это не плохо и не хорошо, это бизнес.
Просто мне смешно когда что-то банальное пытаются завернуть в красивую обёртку.
А когда лошадь сдохнет, умные люди с дохлой слезут и сядут на какую-то другую пока живую,тоже ничего личного.
2862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 28, 2023, 05:39:36 PM
Although it's only Week 4, let's take a moment to look at the current standings. Out of the 20 clubs competing, Manchester City are the only club to have won all three weeks. With this we have already started speculating that they will be back in the ranks of clubs challenging for the title this season.
~

Before this round, City's title quotes were 1.73, but now they are 1.54. Crap. First of all, it's sad, like a spoiler at the very beginning of the movie, it's very annoying  Grin
Secondly, I am angry with myself for having doubts and not betting on the odds that seemed incredibly profitable to me (all competitors are on the decline and the City is stable - what surprises can there be).
2863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Hypothetical Question on: August 28, 2023, 05:31:36 PM
If someone told you a guaranteed sports bet that had a 100% chance of winning, how much would you bet on it?

If you had a $10,000 bankroll, would you go all in? We’re talking 100% can’t lose bet.

Would you take out a loan? How would you go about acquiring a large sum of money if you didn’t have the capital.

Let’s say the match is starting 24 hours from now, what would be your plan to maximize your profit?

Asking for a friend  Wink

Your topics are almost all the time on the same topic  Wink
Have you already several times (if I'm not mistaken) known the outcome of a sporting event in advance, but still haven't been able to generate significant income from it?
As for me, I would bet maybe 10% of my investment money, but I know that this would not happen because the sports outcome has a probability exactly less than 100%.
2864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Oleksandr Usyk VS Daniel Dubois For The Undisputed heavyweight champion on: August 28, 2023, 05:11:55 PM
I don’t think it was a low blow. The rules state anything at the navel or above is a legal shot & I believe it was. It was a legitimate body shot, Usyk was hurt and faked a low blow. It’s gamesmanship, borderline cheating but it is what it is. Winners will do whatever they can to win.

Dubois was effectively robbed of a win and a place as a world champion. The fight just further convinces me that Usyk is a cruiserweight fighting at heavyweight. Tyson Fury is going to destroy him when they meet.

https://youtu.be/a85RLi8XMmE?si=Lgj6x0Luq4eiFSZc
Here is a video where Usyk shows where his navel is.
https://streamable.com/naf2mz
Here is the video of the blow. It seems obvious to me that the blow hits the area where the abdominal muscles already narrow into the groin area and this is exactly below the navel.

In general, it is rather strange to talk about a robbery when one of the boxers was completely declassed and lost by knockout, based on one dirty blow.
2865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mistake that prevented your big win. on: August 28, 2023, 05:01:01 PM
It is always the do or die thought that makes you end up with empty wallet. When you gamble you'll experience win/loss. When it is winning, automatically we get ethusiastic and try to keep it safe. When we're on the losing side, our minds will think of chasing the loss. This is where we loss control and unable to recover back the lost amount. On such stance my mind goes with increasing the bet value and the same mostly ends with losing the amount completely.

This means chasing or increasing your stake isn't a good thing to do and it doesn't matter if you you're winning or losing. Always have a plan on how to you want to bet and don't leave the plan when you're losing or winning. Decision we take during this time can lead to losses.

When you're winning we take precautions as we know we can lose at any time and we want to have something we can rely on if our bets was to go against us but when you're losing, you already don't have anything to lose and you'll decide to go all in, in trying to win some bet.

If you're not disciplined you'll make many mistakes that you'll regret later as it will make you to lose both the capital that you used to bet and the profits that you have already gained and in some cases, you could possibly lose more money due to chasing after losses.

But maybe the plan is precisely to increase the bet after a loss? For example, a player plays against the fact that black will fall out three times in a row. He places his first dollar bet on red. If he loses it, he doubles the bet and again bets on red. If he loses again, he doubles the bet again and bets on red. Thus, for the sake of winning one dollar, the player is ready to risk 7 dollars, but at the same time he has a very good chance of getting this dollar. It is clear that this, like any kind of Martingale, is a losing strategy, but people love such strategies.
2866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Still not a safe practice even if it works on: August 28, 2023, 03:23:59 PM
Restrictions on the use of VPNs come primarily not from casinos, but from local authorities. I have a paid VPN and from some servers I can enter the casinos in which I am registered, and from some not. This is incredibly annoying, especially in my conditions when the state introduces total censorship and tries to ban all VPNs. The good thing is that big casinos always have a long list of mirrors that help to get around the restrictions.
2867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I will pass KYC later is a bad idea on: August 28, 2023, 03:15:43 PM
In general, I am not a KYC's supporter, but if the gambler won an impressive amount of prize money, then here, there is no other way out but to go through this procedure. But to do this before you win, if you win at all, you would never do it. Why transfer your personal data to the casino without a good reason? You have not won anything yet and whether you will win at all, the question remains open, and you are already disclosing information about yourself. I consider it pointless. Verification at KYC in a casino without a reputation is also a stupid act, and even more so, playing them for your own money. If you are lucky with a win, then only KYC, otherwise - no. Problems need to be addressed only as it arise.

It is logical, but you know that many casinos delay payments (or try not to make them at all) under the pretext of passing the KYC? You can always find some kind of violation in the documents/compliance with the rules of the casino, etc. if it is necessary. Therefore, there is a logic in it to go through the KYC in advance in order to get guarantees that the casino will not deceive you here.
2868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 28, 2023, 03:09:01 PM
I can't even believe it about how toxic PSG fans are. verratti has become another victim of these stupid fans. I would say if PSG fans are the worst in EU.
PSG fans are starting to booed him caused by the news said if verratti will be leaving from PSG and join in saudi club. Verratti has been playing in PSG since he was 19 years old but many PSG fans were insulting him now caused by that news.

https://twitter.com/SinbadBoi_/status/1695729484178071856

The PSG fans were always insulting the guy who they didn't like it. Verratti deserves a better place than PSG with so many toxic fans. There's nothing wrong with him joining in saudi club after he has been dedicating a decade to play in PSG>

There are many fools among fans of any club, another thing is that clubs deal with this problem in different ways. As far as I know, the most stringent (and effective) measures in England (this has developed historically since English football has suffered very much from hooligans). PSG need to get rid of aggressive fans. This is painful and partially reduces the number of fans of the club but in the long run it is beneficial.
2869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 28, 2023, 02:56:25 PM
The fact that Barcelona won seems to be cool and 3 points is 3 points, but given the previous two games, I would say that this is another sign of weakness (if we are talking about the fight for the title). And with such a game (both in attack and defense), one should not count on any success in Eurocups. Maybe Xavi will be able to even out the situation, but globally I expect a repeat of previous seasons - instability that will not always end as well as today.

That's correct, the "three points is three points" talk might be true for La Liga, but when this is against the best European teams in the Champions League, I don't think that Barcelona has a realistic chance to make it to the semifinal. Maybe the quarterfinals could be possible, but the last season was a good example of what you just explained. A team like Inter Milan punishes this and doesn't lose the game like Villareal did. Both games against Cadiz and Getafe have already had some warning signals. Having one close game against an inferior team is normal, but these three games taken together aren't very promising so far.

By the way, as I expected, the bookmakers also rated this game as a minus for Barcelona and the quotes for the La Liga title shifted a little more in favor of Real Madrid. Now, according to the bookmakers, the odds of Real Madrid are 1.68 and Barcelona are 2.75. I consider this bias to be quite serious and still profitable to bet on Real (but I want to wait until September 1st to know for sure if Mbappe will come).
2870  Other / Archival / Re: Таблица Подписных Кампаний за Bitcoin on: August 28, 2023, 02:40:26 PM
Я вот не понимаю логику менеджеров подписных, кто делает устанавливает такие вот правила. 40, 50 постов. Они что не понимают, что своими такими действиями они прямым текстом призывают пользователей к спаму и ухудшению качества содержимого этих самых постов. Плюс ограничение в 15 страниц. Огромное количество тем содержат далеко за 15 страниц. А что делать бедным юзерам, которые сидят в основном в местных темах. Там всего одна тема и уже хрен знает сколько страниц содержит. Им что, не писать там? Хотя с другой стороны никто и не заставляет участвовать в кампаниях. Ну да, не нравится условия не участвуй.

Менеджерам и заказчикам без разницы качество и "неспамность" постов, их интересует охват. Но надо чтить местные традиции. Так что требования к подписантам это с одной стороны прямым текстом: спамьте побольше, а с другой "делайте вид что это не спам"  Grin
И тут консенсус между заказчиками и исполнителями достигнут полный. Иначе я бы видел возмущения не только относительно количества постов, и экзотических условий типа "не дальше такой-то страницы" но и по поводу того, что не засчитываются посты короткие. Как будто только "длинные" сообщения имеют смысл или как будто на форуме (для общения блядь изначально существующего) каждое сообщение должно нести какую-то мега ценность.
2871  Local / Майнеры / Re: Глобальные новости крипто-майнинга on: August 28, 2023, 02:21:30 PM
не один домашний майнер не согласится майнить 4 года для окупаемости, поэтому набег наших товарищей будет когда появится возможность окупится меньше года.
а держать средний объем гпу до 10 киловатт на домашней розетке выходит профитом 35-45 тысяч в месяц, но и риски пересчета ээ по другому тарифу и возможная уголовка
отнимает желание чтото делать.

Интересно кстати, есть ли официальный способ майнить коммерчески потреблять ЭЭ у себя дома? Или тут типичное "незаконный способ есть, а законного не существует". Чисто теоретически можно и по коммерческому тарифу платить за ЭЭ, только вот как разделить бытовые траты и "коммерческие"? В прошлом месяце у меня расход 1100 кВтчасов, казалось бы много, но из них 500 минимум это сплит (работает буквально круглые сутки, что с погодой творится все видят) плюс стиралка, электрочайник и т.д. Платить по коммерческому тарифу за всё потребление, желания нет вообще.
2872  Local / Разное / Re: Майнинг 2023 жив! (не крипта) on: August 27, 2023, 08:46:15 PM
спасибо, 450 тысяч за 7 месяцев не много конечно, но лучше чем на зарплату пахать.
я смотрел за фермами из сандбокса, и там также прибыль была небольшая, но фармеры работников нанимали для разных заданий в игре.
мне сложно понять как автокликер может управлять героем в игре и работать без ошибок. по вашему мнению в этих играх игроки есть, или там большинство игроков сидит из за заработка?

Игроки, причем готовые платить, это основа. Если где-то работают фермы то значит есть и живые игроки которые всё оплачивают. Не везде работают автокликеры, где-то скрипты, где-то живые люди, всё ситуативно.
Тему вы всю явно не читали  Wink В этих 7 месяцах был период в 1.5 месяца простоя. Плюс кроме выведенных денег ещё есть деньги в венчуре, в пыли и в вечных шмотках. Поэтому суммарная прибыль более приятная. Буду за август подбивать бабки может напишу подробнее, хотя больше склоняюсь к тому чтобы уже по завершении года это сделать.
2873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 27, 2023, 08:32:18 PM
Full time Villarreal vs Barcelona 3 - 4

I admit that Barcelona's defense in this match was really unsatisfactory, but the performance of their attackers and midfielders was good enough that it helped them win the match. Gavi, De Jong, Ferran and Lewandowski scored one goal each, but of course I didn't really expect Barcelona to concede 3 goals. Xavi needs to make strategic changes in the next match so that his team can play better in defense. Lamine Yamal, who appeared slick, managed to become MVP in this match, of course he became a new gem in the Barcelona squad.

In the end these are the 3 points that really made Barcelona work hard. But overall I think Barcelona did pretty well in the build up despite some of their finishing not being great.

The fact that Barcelona won seems to be cool and 3 points is 3 points, but given the previous two games, I would say that this is another sign of weakness (if we are talking about the fight for the title). And with such a game (both in attack and defense), one should not count on any success in Eurocups. Maybe Xavi will be able to even out the situation, but globally I expect a repeat of previous seasons - instability that will not always end as well as today.
2874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Oleksandr Usyk VS Daniel Dubois For The Undisputed heavyweight champion on: August 27, 2023, 08:18:52 PM
Dubois' team going to appeal that low blow but it is also unlikely that they would win there. It's quite controversial for sure as it kind of hit the cup and the belt from the best angle I've seen so far https://streamable.com/naf2mz It's in slowmo and zoomed so easier to pause at the point of contact.
Many people write that the punch was according to the rules, because if the belt from the underpants covers the belly button of the athlete, then you can hit on the belt on which Dubois hit. On the video you can see that the blow was on the waist, and not below (although from Usyk's reaction you can't say so), so the blow was made according to the rules and it was possible to open the report. Although Usyk probably would have gotten up faster and there would have been no victory, but still Dubois had a bad feeling after this match.

Nevertheless, Usyk would have won on points and probably he would have deserved the final victory.

All punches below the navel are illegal. Given the fact that the area of the boxing glove is quite large, I do not see what can be argued about. For some reason, I remember blows to the liver that led to a knockdown (for example, Gasiev knocked down Povetkin with such a blow), but I don’t remember a single blow to the press that would lead to such consequences - if something like that happened, it was below the belt . It's good that Usyk completely declassed Dubois and naturally knocked him out. This is an undeniable victory, and all the talk about referee error in my opinion is just the opinion of the haters.
2875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 27, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
If I remember correctly, Mbappe only renewed his contract with PSG once and that was last year when he chose between PSG and Real Madrid. He has already realized his mistake and is now trying to escape from there.
I'm sure Real Madrid will try to get him (although Ancelotti recently once again spoke on the topic that Real have a definitive squad and they don't need reinforcements), but this will clearly not be the amount that PSG wants.
Although have good communication again after Mbappe withdrew from PSG squad in the first match, until right now not any any rumor with Mbappe will renew contract with PSG will over on next season. There are close possibilities with Mbappe move to Real Madrid in this season after Carlo Ancelotti announcing their transfer have been over in this season and there are not any player buy or sell anymore. But I don't think with PSG want Mbappe becoming free agent because have one left opportunity in next transfer window January transfer opening several months later.  Sell mbappe or he will be free agent and PSG will loss Mbappe without get fees transfer yet due Mbappe contract will over on next season.

No, Mbappe will either be sold before September 1st or will not be sold at all (leaving as a free agent next summer). No club will buy him in the winter transfer window because he cannot be used in the Champions League (due to tournament regulations that do not allow starting a tournament in one club and continuing in another).
2876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 27, 2023, 07:51:27 PM
Xavi have little experience in europe competition? come on man, that have to be a joke, i know he as a manager its one thing, but he play 20 years this competitions and he knows very well all from the inside of the beast, so, no excuses.

Xavi is new to European competition as a coach, but as a player we certainly don't doubt his quality. The proof that Xavi still has to improve his experience as a coach, is about his failure in the last two seasons in the Champions League and also in the Europa League. Therefore, it is not wrong if someone says Xavi still does not have enough experience to be able to make Barcelona great again in the Champions League and or in European competition. Therefore, I personally am still not sure about Barcelona this season in the Champions League. Because anyway, even though Barcelona has great players but still, it is also not a guarantee for Barcelona to be good in the Champions League.

Xavi is actually a rookie coach when compared to those from whom he should take the title. And the failure of Barcelona in the previous two seasons is a consequence of the weakness of the coach. By the way, today I looked at the composition of Barcelona in the game with Villarreal (those who were on the bench) just a few familiar names - who are all these people? You say that Barcelona have a good line-up, but it seems to me that they do not have enough depth of the line-up to carry out an adequate rotation.
2877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: August 27, 2023, 03:40:42 PM
~
Haaland 3 goals from 3 match.

So far he's running ahead of schedule  Wink



I'm starting to regret not betting on the City title at the start of the season, the odds were super good at 1.73. After the end of this round, it is obvious that the quotes will change. I think it will be something like 1.6. It seems to be still profitable, what do you say? City have a series of 4 easy games ahead, maybe i should bet and then try to hedge it (before the game with Arsenal)?
2878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 27, 2023, 03:33:28 PM
Unimpressive win by City but who cares? Piling up points while continue building and improving that team chemistry is the best thing that could happen to them. That's definitely tough to watch for their fans but getting all three precious points is what matters at the end of the day.

It took only three rounds for City to become the sole leaders of the Premier League. They have 4 more games ahead of them against the underdogs and it looks like we will see a streak of 7 wins. Despite the fact that the opponents will most likely (99.999%) lose points, we have another season in which interest is lost already in the first third (if we are talking about the fight for the title).
2879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Big is the online gambling industry today? on: August 27, 2023, 03:25:46 PM
Covid was a big boost for the development of online in all areas, but I think that even without it, we see how the world is changing and even without covid, a lot goes online. That's why I forgot in my first post to point out the second necessary assessment: we need to take not only an adjustment for inflation, but also for the market share. Because if online gambling has doubled, and for example online games have grown 4 times, then we can say that online gambling is lagging behind.

People are already interested in online gambling, it's just that there are still a lot of outliers with grand promises to get new players hooked that often fall short or sometimes, the casino just disappears. I'm one of those who stick with mainstream platforms and huge gambling organizations because I feel secured that they will deliver with their promises and their promotions. Also, they wouldn't run with my money. What I couldn't wrap my head around is why other people still try new platforms that doesn't have that much exposure to the larger community, and once they got burned, complain about why online gambling will never amount to anything despite having the tech available to accommodate that.

I also prefer a conservative approach when choosing a platform and will even choose a less profitable one (with worse odds if we are talking about bookmakers) but more reliable. But many players take a different approach and choose the maximum bonuses - they are always given in new casinos (otherwise no one would come to them) and if a new project does not become successful, then it will scam, and those who were lured by high odds lose their deposits and start complaining .
2880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: August 27, 2023, 02:56:12 PM
Everything is the same as in previous seasons. The instability of Dortmund is their hallmark, so I almost never bet on them to win until I see a solid performance for several games.
It is obvious that now their games should be bypassed.
I was impressed with the start of Union - it seems that they will at least try to repeat the success of the previous season.
The instability at Borussia Dortmund is caused by the club's management policies and style of management if you ask me and I think it would be great lesson to them if Borussia Dortmund can be relegated this season which o don't think is ever gonna happen because of the kind of league they're playing in.
The decision to sell their best players every summer is the reason why they've never stopped Bayern Munich from winning the league for more than a decade ago. Even against a club like Bochum they still couldn't find a win

Dortmund will never be relegated from the Bundesliga (at least they have the same chances of this event as Bayern) because compared to other clubs they are stronger in all respects (most importantly in finance). If Bayern had stuck to their old strategy of not spending a lot of money on individual player transfers, then Dortmund would even have a chance to win the race (as they almost did last season). But Bayern don't want to be left behind by other top clubs and although they deny it seems to me that with the transfer of Kane, Bayern will be more easy to go for other top transfers.
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