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2101  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: October 21, 2023, 05:06:39 PM
С импортозамещением еще вот какая проблемка есть: в условиях открытого рынка "импотозамещенный" товар не существует. Т.е. никто не купит процессор байкал если можно купить интел, так как у интела и цена и технические характеристики лучше. Поэтому либо продолжаем жить "в осаде" по заветам чучхе, либо открываем рынок и вся местное говно дохнет. До того чтобы не доводить ситуацию когда кроме говна ничего не производится конечно же местные царьки-папуасы додуматься не могут (да и не надо оно им).

Минпромторг проверит фейковый "российский" чип в LightCom.
Минпромторг начал проверку из-за чипа российской компании «Миландр», установленного в мониторе марки LightCom. Ранее блогер Максим Горшенин в своем ролике на YouTube-канале рассказал, что отечественный чип был вставлен в монитор «для вида», чтобы Минпромторг мог внести устройство в реестр российской продукции с высоким уровнем локализации. По его словам, «всю работу» в мониторе делает чип тайваньского производства, а российский не несет никаких функций.
https://club.dns-shop.ru/flow/t-400-priemnaya/1853-minpromtorg-proverit-feikovyii-rossiiskii-chip-v-lightcom/

Эпично  Grin
Много таких новостей было, даже касательно оптики от фотиков привязанной к нашим дронам изолентой. ВПК, тут усе серьезно!  Grin
И недавно был скандал с "импотрозамещенным" смартфоном который подозрительно на 100% напоминал смартфон из какой-то там страны третьего мира (точно не помню). Горе-замещатели отговаривались тем что да, внешне похож, но у нашего, мол, безопасность соответствует местным стандартам. Короче дурка.

Рублик по 90 ждать или как? А то что-то честно говоря терзают смутные сомнения...

Вам какая разница? Рубли тратьте, излишек копите в деньгах. Вас сильно беспокоит курс зимбабвийской валюты или там тугриков каких? Ну так рубль тот же фантик. Утилитарно используйте его, а размышлять о его курсе практического смысла нет.
2102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 21, 2023, 04:53:57 PM
This is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. Xavi and Iniesta, without Messi, won the World Cup + two European Championships in the period 2008-2012, and Messi failed at the World Cup without them and played mediocre at the Copa America. Do you understand that he was 100% replaceable? Zero uniqueness and zero success without Xavi and Iniesta. This is not an opinion, these are facts.
And if you have a good memory, then you must remember how they said about Messi “if he played in the farm league, he would score 100 goals.” But in the end, when he ended up in the farm league, his performance was absolutely usual and he left PSG to the boos of the fans.

Totally fine if you label your opinion as a fact. And even with that I don't have any issues, because thinking that an opinion is a fact is also an opinion and you are definitely entitled to say and think whatever you want.  

But you know, since you have provided your opinion-based facts, I will also provide my opinion as my final response to this discussion:



I guess it's time to get back on topic.

Oh you!  Cheesy Do you want to make an argument using awards from one of the most shameful and corrupt organizations?

You say that I am presenting my opinion as facts. Okay, let's leave only the facts: in the period 2008-2012, Xavi and Iniesta, without Messi, won everything they could (World Cup + two European Championships), Messi failed without them. Please remove my opinion from here. Leave only the facts  Roll Eyes
I think we are still on topic since such giants as Xavi and Iniesta (even if robbed) will always remain as benchmarks for comparison.
2103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 21, 2023, 04:50:21 PM
I can understand that currently PSG may not be as consistent as last season, but when competing against Strasbourg, it will be easier when competing at home because it's time for PSG to quickly catch up on points which are currently only slightly different from the clubs above them and all people really hope that PSG wins this match and I also have confidence in betting on the PSG club as the winner even though the odds are small but I use multi bet.



Quite a routine victory for PSG (I think we can already state this since the score is 3-0 in favor of PSG), it seems to me that even if Strasbourg were lucky and Motiba could score a goal without being offside, the result would be similar. Luis Enrique made 5 substitutions trying different combinations of players. By the way, Mbappe today is not as effective as usual, the penalty goal is good, but he missed several 100% chances.
2104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 21, 2023, 04:39:46 PM
I wouldn't make a direct connection between one player's goal percentage and his importance. For example, in Spain, Villa scored something like 80-90% of the goals in the final part of the World Cup and in one of the European Championships, but the main link in the team was not he, but the midfield. Under Xavi and Iniesta, Messi also scored a high percentage of goals and, as you can see, it was easy to replace him with Villa.

Every striker benefits from a strong midfield, but at the same time a strong midfield benefits from a strong striker. If you have a striker with average efficiency, the result will be that all the beautiful passes that midfield plays will never be perceived as what they are. If a strong midfield meets a strong striker, the result is what we have seen in Barcelona.

But let me please add here as you brought up Messi and somewhat drew the line to Villa. Could you please come up with a single name in the history of football that achieved these stats?



This guy has more assists than Xavi and Iniesta combined, I guess everyone knows how sick that is. I have never seen a more deadly striker who at the same time is as deadly in giving assists. The only one who comes to my mind who is better in giving assists is De Bruyne. But this combination of scoring and giving assists debunks this weird point that Messi benefitted from a good midfield throughout his career and that's it, can just be replaced with Villa. Lol, sorry to lol here because I always respect your opinion, but this time we differ severely.

And yes, in Messi's case there is "a direct connection between one player's goal percentage and his importance." In Lukaku usually not so much, but it would hurt Belgium if a player in great shape gets injured because at the moment he seems to be onto something in the national team. 

This is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. Xavi and Iniesta, without Messi, won the World Cup + two European Championships in the period 2008-2012, and Messi failed at the World Cup without them and played mediocre at the Copa America. Do you understand that he was 100% replaceable? Zero uniqueness and zero success without Xavi and Iniesta. This is not an opinion, these are facts.
And if you have a good memory, then you must remember how they said about Messi “if he played in the farm league, he would score 100 goals.” But in the end, when he ended up in the farm league, his performance was absolutely usual and he left PSG to the boos of the fans.
2105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 21, 2023, 04:30:56 PM
José Mourinho is getting near to Saudi Arabian more than any time. Since he couldn't have a good performance in Roma there's the possibility for this famous coach to lose his job in Serie A and since some Saudi team wanted to hire this coach even during the last summer. Now there is a higher possibility for us to see José Mourinho in the Saudi League.



https://dailysports.net/news/mourinhos-arrival-in-saudi-arabia-came-prematurely-real-has-contemplated-the-return-of-special-one/

With Roma, Mourinho reached his maximum and maybe he should have left after his second season. Constantly getting good results with an average team is unrealistic (especially when the competitors are so strong). I don’t see anything wrong with him working in Saudi Arabia, I think when a good option appears in Europe, he will be able to return from there. In the end, Ancelotti was able to return to the top after his failure with Everton, so why can't Mourinho repeat this path (besides, it is too early to talk about his failure).
2106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 04:19:11 PM
Glad that it's back again, we are going to see a couple games that will be too obvious and still scary, I think it should be important to realize that not everything we want will happen and sometimes we lose some obvious games, not like City or Arsenal ends up with full wins eventually anyway.

Liverpool, United, City, Spurs all are playing teams that they should be able to beat and I think it should be important to wait and see if they will end up with a win, I know that it will be very hard for it to happen but I think it should be able to get a good profit from that bet if everything goes according to plan. I may be wrong on this but I think it should be easy bet and could give some good return without a doubt.

Have you made a multi-bet on these outcomes? What is the final odds? I'm not sure that United can be put on a par with Liverpool, City and Spurs, now their place is next to Chelsea. Today United plays with the last team in the Premier League, but this is an away game, plus Casemiro will not take part in the game. The bet on United seems dubious to me.
2107  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: October 21, 2023, 03:55:09 PM
Ну а как ты импортозаместишь микроэлектронику с разрешением меньше 60 нм. Там речь идет уже о серийных 5-7, а экспериментальных около 3. Я даже не представляю где можно взять столько денег, чтобы выйти хотя бы на эти освоенные уже Тайванем и прочими 7 ?
Очевидно, что никакие 2-3 года здесь не катят. И это очень большая проблема.
~

С импортозамещением еще вот какая проблемка есть: в условиях открытого рынка "импотозамещенный" товар не существует. Т.е. никто не купит процессор байкал если можно купить интел, так как у интела и цена и технические характеристики лучше. Поэтому либо продолжаем жить "в осаде" по заветам чучхе, либо открываем рынок и вся местное говно дохнет. До того чтобы не доводить ситуацию когда кроме говна ничего не производится конечно же местные царьки-папуасы додуматься не могут (да и не надо оно им).
2108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 03:02:13 PM
Al hilal is fine without him but the main problem is the money used to sign neymar will be useless caused by he was always being injury. I think that al hilal shall think about neymar. Al hilal will be getting compensation from FIFA regarding injury that happened with neymar but that's not enough caused by neymar has a very big salary. It's a loss for al hilal caused by neymar was a very important player being recruited by paying a lot of money to the PSG. Im very disappoint to hear how neymar was getting ACL injury again.
It's a very bad news to hear yesterday. I thought that if al hilal must be doing something. The international break was destroying neymar's career in SPL. It's caused by he got serious injury that was ruining his career for almost a year starting from this time.

What actions do you expect from Al-Hilal? What should they think about? I think in deals of this size/level, all options (including serious injury) should be covered. The text of the contract is not available to us, so we can only guess what will happen next. Previously, such injuries (especially at that age) automatically meant the end of a career, now medicine has advanced far, but knowing Neymar, I’m not at all sure that we will see him on the field again (at least in adequate shape).
2109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 21, 2023, 02:53:55 PM
Being ahead of a Ronaldo in the goal scorer list when Ronaldo has a group that is much easier than that of Belgium speaks volumes so far. Lukaku for some reason gets along very well in the national team despite missing De Bruyne. Actually, it is not only about the 10 goals he scored, but about the number of his goals relative to total Belgium goals. He scored 10/16 whereas Ronaldo scored 9/32. This shows how much Lukaku means to the team. He also assisted 1 goal, which gives him a participation rate of 68.75%. That's ridiculous and nobody would have seen that coming.

I wouldn't make a direct connection between one player's goal percentage and his importance. For example, in Spain, Villa scored something like 80-90% of the goals in the final part of the World Cup and in one of the European Championships, but the main link in the team was not he, but the midfield. Under Xavi and Iniesta, Messi also scored a high percentage of goals and, as you can see, it was easy to replace him with Villa.
2110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 21, 2023, 02:47:49 PM
I think no  Wink In your case, it would be more profitable for Granada to win (if you do not take into account the most profitable option when you guess the exact score). Today, most forecasters received 1.5 points and thus you are 0.5 points behind a large group of people. Sometimes it’s better not to get any points at all, but at the same time so that others don’t get either  Grin

I don't know. This is my first time I'm competing in a pool so I'm still learning. The problem is that I have no idea how others have answered until the game starts or if I lock my answer. Implayed this way the entered season and so far it has brought me good result so I'll continue to do so.

This feature works the same for everyone, it would be strange if you could spy on other people’s forecasts - then the leaders would remain invulnerable. Or we would see “games” where people made fake predictions and then changed them at the last minute.
Last season I was also a newbie and things were going well for me, this year everything is much worse  Cheesy
2111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 21, 2023, 10:57:59 AM
Addition to what you've said, all four fixtures against Real Madrid and Barcelona won them all. ~

Hmm what? Real Madrid won the first game against Barcelona last season with a score of 3-1 and knocked them out of the Spanish Cup. I don’t understand how you can write something that didn’t happen? Is it really difficult to check information if you yourself don’t remember exactly?
As for the strengths of the teams this season, of course Real looks like the clear favorite, although the bookmakers give it a modest advantage before the head-to-head meeting.

No. No. No. I don't mean to be rude but you've got to go do your check properly. Three to one goal was 2022. That was the last game of the season and Real Madrid won.

I got it wrong, Last season, Barcelona and Real Madrid met five times or four times. Twice was during the Copa Del Ry and Real Madrid won the first game with four goals to nothing, Barcelona later won the other leg with three goals to nothing.
Go check it out and see you're not correct.
~

Okay, let me explain how wrong I am if you write that Barcelona won 4 games last season, but the facts are that out of four games (we don’t take the Super Cup) Real won 2?
Even just look at what I highlighted, don’t you think that your words contradict your other words? I hope you can explain what you meant and where you got confused.

Why reject the Super Cup? I'd love to know why!

I did go back to check properly,  Both El Classico games, Barcelona won, two goals to one and then the other one to nil. The Super Cup saw Real Madrid winning the first game and Barcelona the second leg of the super cup.

That's to say they met four times in a season and Barcelona won three ( two for La Liga and the third Super Cup ) how's this difficult to understand?

You continue to write made-up nonsense. Last season, in the 9th round, Real beat Barcelona 3-1. Thus, if we take into account the Super Cup, then Real won 2 games out of 5, and if we take only La Liga and the Spanish Cup, then Real won 2 games out of 4.
Your words are 100% contrary to the facts, can you somehow explain this or will you continue to invent something that did not happen?
And seems you don't know the meaning of El Classico - it's not just Real Madrid's games against Barcelona in La Liga, but also their games in any other tournament.
2112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 09:23:23 PM
I see that Granada let down many forecasters (by not scoring their goal) and did not allow them to earn exact points. It’s quite illogical since Granada scores quite a lot of goals on average, while Osasuna concedes enough.
/snip

That's the reason why I went with a 3-2 win for Osasuna. I expected Osasuna to win but Granada played only two games this season without scoring a goal. Never mind, I like getting a point here. A point is always better than nothing Smiley

I think no  Wink In your case, it would be more profitable for Granada to win (if you do not take into account the most profitable option when you guess the exact score). Today, most forecasters received 1.5 points and thus you are 0.5 points behind a large group of people. Sometimes it’s better not to get any points at all, but at the same time so that others don’t get either  Grin
2113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 20, 2023, 09:14:59 PM
Addition to what you've said, all four fixtures against Real Madrid and Barcelona won them all. ~

Hmm what? Real Madrid won the first game against Barcelona last season with a score of 3-1 and knocked them out of the Spanish Cup. I don’t understand how you can write something that didn’t happen? Is it really difficult to check information if you yourself don’t remember exactly?
As for the strengths of the teams this season, of course Real looks like the clear favorite, although the bookmakers give it a modest advantage before the head-to-head meeting.

No. No. No. I don't mean to be rude but you've got to go do your check properly. Three to one goal was 2022. That was the last game of the season and Real Madrid won.

I got it wrong, Last season, Barcelona and Real Madrid met five times or four times. Twice was during the Copa Del Ry and Real Madrid won the first game with four goals to nothing, Barcelona later won the other leg with three goals to nothing.
Go check it out and see you're not correct.
~

Okay, let me explain how wrong I am if you write that Barcelona won 4 games last season, but the facts are that out of four games (we don’t take the Super Cup) Real won 2?
Even just look at what I highlighted, don’t you think that your words contradict your other words? I hope you can explain what you meant and where you got confused.
2114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 09:06:54 PM
bump

what an international break can do to a topic, it was a real deal to find it
on a page 7 in Gambling topic, with my post - going into International break as last one

nevertheless, Osasuna is breezing past Granada as expected (it does seem that this season has heavy favorites for relegation - Almeria and Granada, comparing to last season when half a league flighted for survival)

Sevilla is waiting for Real, in a match that can hardly be called a derby, hopefully it will prove me wrong

I see that Granada let down many forecasters (by not scoring their goal) and did not allow them to earn exact points. It’s quite illogical since Granada scores quite a lot of goals on average, while Osasuna concedes enough.
Seville - Real is interesting only because of the “signboard”, I think that Real should take 3 points without any problems. Surprises are possible in the Barcelona - Athletic game.
2115  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 08:57:23 PM
agree with a doubt stand, but Dortmund will probably have a hard fought win
didn't watch it, but statistic said 22 shots, 5 on target, and one goal by Brandt, enough for a minimal win

agree, they don't look very good at the moment, but winning when you are not in best shape is what brings good placements and titles

while I was typing, it ended, 1:0 for Dortmund

An unexpected result for me, I predicted 3-1 in favor of Dortmund, but only a minimal victory as a result. Despite the fact that Dortmund scores on average more than 2 goals per game, and Werder concedes more than 2. Well. For at least a day, Dortmund is in first place and I will hope that the Bundesliga in the remaining games will continue to show greater results as in previous rounds.
2116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 20, 2023, 06:25:17 PM
I wanted to see the bookmakers' odds on who qualifies from this group, but for some reason the bookmakers haven't published them yet. I can assume that Italy’s chances will be estimated at about 1.60, the coefficient should not be less because in fact this is a multi-bet: Italy must defeat North Macedonia, which is inconvenient for them, and then not lose to Ukraine. The task is not very difficult, but Italy looks unconvincing in recent games.

Quite funny, but there are still no quotes. Moreover, some groups have already been “settled” and you can bet on who will take first place or be in the top 2, but not for group C. Damn, is this really difficult? I don’t like small bookmakers, but sometimes they have quotes for some events much earlier than the main market participants.
If anyone is using a local bookmaker and there are already quotes then I would like to know what they are.
2117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 06:16:25 PM
Neymar being injured again wasn't really unexpected was it? No idea why they paid so much for him, he is not like some superstar famous person for money and views reasons neither, I mean don't get me wrong I am not denying his talent, but people like Ronaldo and Messi draw people to watch their games, look at just this topic, Ronaldo made this league known all by himself that's fame, it is of course because he is talented but that's not enough, just being talented is not enough, you need to be so famous that you need to make that money back for them.

Neymar wasn't loved like that by the people all that much, maybe Brazilians could like him a bit but not everyone around the world so I am assuming it was already a bad transfer even if he was healthy, now that he is injured, it is even worse.

I agree, Neymar is not a purely positive brand, many simply do not like him and he causes irritation. There are impudent/arrogant people who do not cause negative emotions (for example, Ibrahimovic or Mourinho) because they have proven their status and respect for what they do with their achievements and attitude to work (and this also applies to fans). Neymar has achieved a lot, but in relation to what was expected of him, he has achieved nothing, plus with his attitude that looks like disrespect for everyone, he is not a “great brand.”
2118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 20, 2023, 06:07:13 PM
I’m expecting a strange result from that game tomorrow. It’s a derby and derbies doesn’t always go the way we predicted. Chelsea recently have been doing well. Pochettino has finally gotten his magic touch and the players are blending and linking up well. Anybody watching Chelsea closely this season would have been able to see the positive impact Mauricio Pochettino has made since taking charge. A lot of EPL fans are writing them off because they’re facing a decent Arsenal side that haven’t lost a game this season.
~

It’s quite strange to hear this about the coach of a team that is in 11th place. Although you are right that the derby is a special match and the results in such games are often unpredictable. If the odds for this game were adequate, then I would think that a double chance bet on Chelsea would make sense, but unfortunately, in my opinion, bookmakers underestimate Arsenal, so if you place a bet, it is better to bet on a simple victory for Arsenal, the odds are very attractive - 2.22
2119  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 20, 2023, 05:58:39 PM
Speculation about Lionel Messi returning to Barcelona continues to be discussed, but for me it is not a desirable scenario. Lionel Messi's contract will end in year 2025 and if he plans to return to Barcelona in the following year it is much less likely. If he intends to play in the World Cup for his country then the most likely thing is for him to stay in MLS with an automatic contract extension and I believe this to be a much more likely scenario for him than returning to Barcelona.

Of course no one knows how the rest of Lionel Messi's career will go in the future, but I think Barcelona should think about other options compared to bringing Lionel Messi back to Camp Nou. The salary issue may be a consideration and Lionel Messi is unlikely to be willing to accept a small salary to return there, although that is just my assumption.

Messi will never return to Barcelona (and Europe). Even while playing for PSG, he did quite a lot of damage to his image as he showed far from the results that were expected from the winner of so many PR awards. Now he is rapidly aging, and given the fact that even in his youth, speed and the ability to run a lot were not his strengths, now this will be too obvious. This return will be a failure because he is no longer at the level of the top teams.
2120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 20, 2023, 05:49:54 PM
Addition to what you've said, all four fixtures against Real Madrid and Barcelona won them all. ~

Hmm what? Real Madrid won the first game against Barcelona last season with a score of 3-1 and knocked them out of the Spanish Cup. I don’t understand how you can write something that didn’t happen? Is it really difficult to check information if you yourself don’t remember exactly?
As for the strengths of the teams this season, of course Real looks like the clear favorite, although the bookmakers give it a modest advantage before the head-to-head meeting.
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