If it is possible to have eXch.cx avatar in combination with an Blackjack.fun sig campaign, I am applying  Same here, if possible I'd like to apply. Username: Ale88 BTC SegWit Address: bc1qc3yp2v9nlupaw75sxt5m9h383klnzlh2y0gnjx |
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I saw an add on instagram some days go, from a Japanese exchange.
It was super short and quick and it was also something about halving and "now is a chance" and so on, just some random stuff to motivate people to get in.
My Japanese is not perfect so I didn't get the rest.
Tried to find this commercial again but never did until today. In Japan, even though very regulated, you can often see a lot of crypto related commercials or banners and signs on the street. This was quite surprising to me when I first saw it.
I went to Japan last year and I remember seeing a few banners and signs but nothing out of the ordinary. Japanese people anyway should start investing in bitcoin because their society is becoming less and less sustainable, I remember I was surprised (in a negative way) by the amount of very old people that are still working because they don't have enough money: I'm talking about people in their mid 80s, that was crazy for me. |
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Owning Bitcoin means you must take full responsibility for it. You can't say it to many people because you don't know who is sincere towards you. By storing your Bitcoins carefully, you have protected your Bitcoins from bad people who want to steal them. You have the right to stop people not to have access to your BTC by creating a solid password to all your laptops and phones, that will prevent people not to see your wallet which nobody can touch the BTC apart from only you, And, you still have the right to allow people to have access to your BTC by showing them all your details, they can use to withdraw your BTC from your wallet without your permission. It's not that simple: if someone, somehow, discovers that you own many bitcoins, and this person is a criminal, there are many ways for him to get his hands on your bitcoins without the need to know your passphrase, password, pin, or whatever. And once he convinces you somehow to make the transaction then you lost everything, there is no way to get them back. So what you're saying is true in an anonymous environment, if someone knows who you are then everything changes. |
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Let's compare it to the situations Ukrainians found themselves in.
They needed to flee the country, but there was a chance border guards would steal their money if they found them carrying a lot. The same would happen if they were found carrying a bag of gold.
If they happened to enter the EU, they wouldn't be able to fly anywhere because you cannot carry a lot of cash and valuables like gold, jewelry, including watches, and cash. AFAIK the legal limit is somewhere around 20k EUR. So, in a situation where you have to migrate with a lot of money, bitcoin is the obvious choice.
If I remember correctly, in the European Union you can travel with up to 10k euro without declaring the money; if you have more than 10k euro with you, you can still travel but you are require to declare the money, if you don't and they discover you, the money will probably be confiscated until when your position is clarified. I think in the USA is pretty much the same but instead of 10k euro is $10k. But as I previously said, we're talking about declaring the money, not as a maximum limit you are allowed to bring with you. The thing is, a WW3 scenario would bring out desperation and physical assets would likely be overlooked. Aside from Ukraine, try to look back at the wealthy jews during WW2. Not many of them survived as well. Money didn't get them salvation. In case of a nuke warefare, both fiat, gold, and crypto would be less important where you can't exchange them for more essential things. Everyone loses. But fiat and gold did get through two world wars and though it's going to be a lot worse, these assets will also survive a third one. Crypto, which isn't really a physical aspect may or may not. I don't think we can somehow compare what happened in WWII with what could happen in a hypothetical WWIII because we live in a completely different world now: if today a country launches a nuclear attack then there is a high probability that we are going to have a chain reaction from the allies of the countries involved, and this would turn into a way bigger world war. At that point gold, cash, crypto, everything would be useless, the only thing that will matter is finding a way to survive. Many people also think that gold, bitcoin, money...everything will become useless if war breaks out, but I don't think so. I believe that even when there is war, the economy still works to some extent, I mean money is still used and people with more money will have better privileges and more life opportunities more. If you don't have money, gold, or bitcoin in hand, you won't be able to buy food or drinks, but if you have a lot of money in hand, I believe you can buy those things. As long as there is a need, someone will provide it for us, that's how this world operates whether there is war or not. For me, it all comes down at the size of the war: if it's a "small" war like what is going on in Ukraine, and by small I mean that it's about only a few countries, than people can still go somewhere else and yes, of course any type of money would help a lot. If we are talking about a possible WWIII with all the countries launching nuclear attacks to each other then we must understand that life as we know it will be gone for centuries. In an hypothetical post-nuclear world water and food would be way more valuable than gold or cash. |
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There are some things the importance of which we cannot understand until the time comes. Maybe we don't care about those things because we don't need them now, but when we need them, we will regret these things, but regretting them at that time will not help. Now maybe we have the strength of the body and the ability to work so now we can manage all the things but the strength of the body is not there for the whole life of the people or their workplace will not be there for the whole life. Since these are not permanent, we have to plan for the future in advance. Those who invested in Bitcoin exactly 10 years ago planning their future may have gotten a lot better from their investment today. But those who didn't plan their future at that time and invest in Bitcoin even when there was an opportunity are probably regretting it now. Like those who didn't invest 10 years ago and now regret it, we need to plan our investments now so that we don't regret it at some point in our age.
Congratulations to those who have already planned to invest and those who have Bitcoin investments and hope you will hold your investment for long time but to those who are still planning to invest I would advise you to invest in Bitcoin even if you think about your future. If we can invest now thinking about the future then this investment will be very useful for us at a stage in the future which we may not be able to imagine now.
I kind of agree with what you are saying here but I think you are forgetting to mention a very important thing: how many people, 10 years ago, knew something about bitcoin? It's like telling people that 20 years ago they should have taken a risk and bought some Apple or Amazon stocks, it wasn't something that easy to do like it is today. I invested in bitcoin pretty much as soon as I discovered it but in 2014 I had no idea what bitcoin was. |
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Over the past year or so, we've been discussing and anticipating the Bitcoin Halving. We heard that after the Bitcoin halving comes the bull run. We've learned different strategies to accumulate Bitcoin in preparation for this event. As humans, we easily get bored if there is no goal in sight or task ahead of us. The Bitcoin halving was the goal in sight that motivated many Bitcoiners to accumulate Bitcoin. Now that the event has technically come and gone, what is the next big thing that we should look forward to? What are the next collective goals or tasks ahead of us to stay motivated?
Personally I am very curious to see what will happen with the price: in the past we always had some dumps after the halving, will this time be the same? Since the ETFs bitcoin's price has been less volatile, and usually the people who buy ETFs are not in for some quick buy and sell, the hold for a while, so this time I still expect a price correction but way smaller compared to the previous years. And pf course I'm curious to see if we'll have a new ATH. |
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According to history and recent Bitcoin halving the crypto market will witness a dump it might be massive dump before Bitcoin moves to its all time highs (ATH) having known this from my knowledge has a crypto trader I am expecting a dump at $70k to $72k soon which will cause massive confusion in the market for the newbies,
I’m literally confused to your statement even if I’m not a newbie. You are expecting a massive dump around 70K to 72K while the current is around 63k? Are you from future which the price above 100K or you are using the word dump in opposite meaning? Nevertheless the outcome after halving is already different now compared the previous halving since we experienced early pump before the halving due to the ETF approval. Also the price is not showing any weakness compared before which the price correct more than 50%. I’m expecting a massive pump when the sewer rats shake-off was finished. Yeah, I'm confused as well because those numbers don't make any sense. Right now we're a $65.000ish, if we go down, in my opinion, we may reach $55k or something like that, I don't see any incoming "massive dump" (OP words). Lately bitcoin is less volatile than what it used to be so we can't just expect for history to repeat exactly the same all the time. |
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Ci uniamo tutto insieme per mano con narcotrafficanti che ti sparano in mezzo alla fronte dopo averti stuprato tua moglie, tua sorella e magari tua figlia?
io sono contento che lo abbia fatto, figurati se lo critico per quello lo critico per altre cose, siccome ha fatto una cosa sola buona allora dobbiamo applaudirlo senza muovere critica? non mi pare ne corretto ne sano, poi siamo in democrazia ognuno la pensa come vuole. A questo punto, dato che per te Bukele ha fatto UNA sola cosa buona da quando è al potere, mi potresti cortesemente elencare questa lista di tutte le cose non buone che ha fatto? Quali sono esattamente queste cose per la quale tu lo stai criticando? E sto chiedendo seriamente, ovviamente non riesco a stare dietro a tutto, se tu sei al corrente apprezzerei la risposta. |
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Will you hold your bitcoins to 2028? Probably I will sell something in the incoming months, especially if we go above $120k, that value for me is a good price to start selling something, not everything of course. Probably the more the price increases, the more I will keep selling, with the idea (or hope) to buy again later at a lower price. Holding for other 4 years seems like a long time. |
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You've said the word for most common man that needs to be applied and that is being "patient". Without this, one cannot achieve being great in Bitcoin because it's one of the most needed character as an investor or holder need to have. You need to be the most patient guy because as we all know, this is a roller coaster ride and today might be bumpy and tomorrow might be bumpier that you haven't expected to come. So, that's why you need to have this character as you invest and you'll learn this for every investment that you're going to get in. As for the people that have invested a lot on Bitcoin and even earlier, they're one of the most patient guys that have believed and trusted it. That's why you and me will certainly change our lives forever with it if you're truly believing to what Bitcoin can do to our lives because it's not just an asset that you'll have to hold but the value of it will increase more because of the adoption that's happening on it and with all of the fundamentals that we're seeing that surrounds it.
If you must succeed in bitcoin investment you must element of patience, this is the character that can make it possible for one to achieve greatly in hodling Bitcoin. The reason why some people find it difficult to hodl bitcoin is because of greed and desperation of making money so quick from bitcoin. No successful hodling without exercising patience. I know sometimes it is not easy to do this because of some challenges that one might be going through but hodling is still necessary, if you look on to the present challenges you may never hodl bitcoin. Patience is just all we need to stick in hodling Bitcoin and doing so one will definitely get that good profit dreaming of getting. With no patience their is no profit in bitcoin. Being patient is a necessary condition not only in Bitcoin but in all investments. Achieving excellence in investing is difficult and in some cases impossible, but being patient can lead to a high-return outcome. The urge to win quickly leads people to make mistakes. You are right about this. Being patient by acting within a certain plan is one of the characteristics required to achieve goals. We all want to reach our goals immediately, but the market has a structure, acting within this structure and being patient will benefit us in reaching our goals. Impatience is the main reason people lose money in the investments they make. I think we all know Warren Buffett's famous quote "The stock market is a device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient", it applies to everything, not only to the stock market, it's for any investment. Even if you open a restaurant you can't expect it to be full all the time few days after the opening, it takes time to build a reputation. Unfortunately because of the influencers many people think they can become rich in a few weeks. |
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Do you think that altcoin is a major distraction to bitcoins adoption? I don't see altcoins as a distraction: for example many people think that bitcoin is too expensive and choose to buy some alt coins instead. There is no logical reason behind this choice but at least they are entering the crypto world then, with experience, they will understand how and why bitcoin is unique and why it's better to own 0.001 BTC rather than 2 billions of some altcoin. |
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Are you increasing your bitcoin investments because of today halving ? For how long do you plan to hold this new investment from here on.
I try to buy something whenever I have some funds available, the halving is not an important factor for me, we know it's coming, it's not going to change the way I see bitcoin. Regarding the future plans, probably if bitcoin reaches $120-130k I will sell something hoping to buy more later at a lower price because let's be honest, sooner or later the price will dump again. |
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Senza lo sviluppo e il miglioramento degli exchange dal 2012 a oggi, con colossi come binance, coinbase e nuovi o vecchi che siano a oggi COL CAZZO ASSOLUTO che saremo arrivati a questo livello di adozione, ma neanche col binocolo distante anni luce. Ah, almeno non sono l'unico a pensarla così. A volte leggendo certi post sembra che questa adozione di bitcoin stia arrivando grazie alle discussioni tecniche su BTC e grazie a chi compra per strada  Andiamo pure avanti a vedere certi strumenti per l'acquisizione di BTC (perché i CEX sono quello) come il male assoluto, andiamo avanti a dare alle persone neofite i consigli più complicati per entrare in questo mondo, continuiamo a spararci nei piedi da soli per poi chiederci perché l'adozione procede a rilento. Un po' come chiedere che auto comprare e invece ti dicono di costruirti un motore nel tuo garage almeno sei sicuro che la Ford o la Fiat non ti fottano con un motore fatto male. |
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Have you noticed that whenever someone complain or there is an incident of scam they is always a role that was played by the person in that happening It happens but not in all cases, you kept your property in your care is quite different from when you lost it out of carelessness or when someone came in and attack you just to steal you money from you, most of the people you see often loose their assets lack the practice of the security measures expected from them to use in shielding over their asset and this scammers uses such weakness to attack them, this is also very common to newbies in mot cases, if you know that you have something that you cherish, then don't wait till you're been attacked before doing something to protect yourself. When you use a non-custodial wallet in the case of cryptocurrency, you will get a private key or a security phrase and that will be the only key to the security of its funds, so it is your responsibility to protect your money by taking care of them. so if you are careless and click on various phishing links or visit a scam site and try to access your wallet by submitting your private key, it is your own fault. so you can't blame anyone for that. Of course it's your responsibility but you must also take in consideration that everybody makes mistakes, even the most experienced users sometimes can simply overlook something because maybe that day they feel a little off. Doing some victim blaming just because you are 100% sure it won't ever happen to you is just plain wrong. Everybody can ben scammed. |
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Let's compare it to the situations Ukrainians found themselves in.
They needed to flee the country, but there was a chance border guards would steal their money if they found them carrying a lot. The same would happen if they were found carrying a bag of gold.
If they happened to enter the EU, they wouldn't be able to fly anywhere because you cannot carry a lot of cash and valuables like gold, jewelry, including watches, and cash. AFAIK the legal limit is somewhere around 20k EUR. So, in a situation where you have to migrate with a lot of money, bitcoin is the obvious choice.
If I remember correctly, in the European Union you can travel with up to 10k euro without declaring the money; if you have more than 10k euro with you, you can still travel but you are require to declare the money, if you don't and they discover you, the money will probably be confiscated until when your position is clarified. I think in the USA is pretty much the same but instead of 10k euro is $10k. But as I previously said, we're talking about declaring the money, not as a maximum limit you are allowed to bring with you. The thing is, a WW3 scenario would bring out desperation and physical assets would likely be overlooked. Aside from Ukraine, try to look back at the wealthy jews during WW2. Not many of them survived as well. Money didn't get them salvation. In case of a nuke warefare, both fiat, gold, and crypto would be less important where you can't exchange them for more essential things. Everyone loses. But fiat and gold did get through two world wars and though it's going to be a lot worse, these assets will also survive a third one. Crypto, which isn't really a physical aspect may or may not. I don't think we can somehow compare what happened in WWII with what could happen in a hypothetical WWIII because we live in a completely different world now: if today a country launches a nuclear attack then there is a high probability that we are going to have a chain reaction from the allies of the countries involved, and this would turn into a way bigger world war. At that point gold, cash, crypto, everything would be useless, the only thing that will matter is finding a way to survive. |
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La soluzione corretta e' che tu non te ne esca periodicamente ad accusare la gente che posta dei dati oggettivi di fare FUD. Questi sarebbero dati oggettivi? I miei più sentiti auguri e un enorme in bocca a lupo a chi ancora custodisce denaro su Binance. Ne hanno tanto bisogno. e' uno dei pochi che ha sempre corredato con un mare di dati le affermazioni che fa, e che cerca sempre di essere il piu' oggettivo possibile. Plutosky è un Signor utente ma questo è un forum pubblico, almeno io la pensavo così, posso esprimere la mia opinione o devo chiederti il permesso prima? Forse sono cambiate le regole e non me ne sono accorto. Se poi sei il primo a fare scorrettezze e non sopporti di essere rintuzzato, che devo dirti... cazzi tuoi. Educatissimo come sempre  Se dovessi andare a recuperare i tuoi thread e messaggi per annunciare al mondo Binance che sta scammando da un momento all'altro faremmo in tempo ad arrivare al prossimo halving ma quello scorretto sono io, capisco, spero di riuscire a dormire lo stesso stanotte |
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We live in crazy times. This will be my first BTC halving and I'm so fucking happy that I learned about BTC and how FIAT money is basically a fucking scam in the past year. Thanks to this forum and happy halving y'all! This is one of the true perks of bitcoin: it makes you understand how the financial system that we are used to is completely corrupted and it's not sustainable. Keep up with buying bitcoin, studying, and your experience and life will keep improving, you'll really start to see things from a completely different perspective. |
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Bitcoin mining fees has increased considerably today after halving but there are no effect on bitcoin prices. I suggested some friends to invest before and they are blaming me for the suggestion. I told them to wait for final effect as it can take some days for effect on prices but they are impatient.
Who ever said that bitcoin price was going to increase immediately after the halving? I mean, the whole world knew that this was going to happen and simply looking at the past halvings we do have a price increase, but it's never been immediate, it took a few months. You should never tell people "buy this because it's going up" because then they are going to blame you, just like it happened. |
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Plutosky, Binance ha un fondo di oltre 1,6 miliardi di dollari per provvedere ad eventuali perdite dei clienti, dubito che gli altri exchange si possano solamente avvicinare a questa cifra, quindi se c'è da preoccuparsi per Binance (primo exchange al mondo) allora cosa dovremmo dire degli altri? Io capisco il sentimento anti CEX però a volte mi sembra che si fuddi veramente gratuitamente. Dovesse passare da queste parti un novizio che vuole acquistare per la prima volta probabilmente dopo un post del genere preferisce lasciare perdere e si compra un gratta e vinci Oh bene, adesso anche Plutosky si e' beccato l'accusa di fare FUD. Plutosky e' notoriamente uno che spara dati a caso e dice cose poco aderenti alla realta'. Vorrei ricordare che siamo in un forum che DOVREBBE promuovere cultura relativa a Bitcoin. Una delle pietre miliari del valore intrinseco di Bitcoin e' che per la prima volta nella storia hai uno strumento che ti permette di non fidarti di una unita' centralizzata. Se un novizio viene qui e pensa che si puo' fidare tranquillamente di Binance perche' lo dice Binance stesso, perche' lo dice la fed, perche' lo dice il papa o perche' lo dice ale88, secondo me tale novizio non ha capito NULLA di uno dei valori di base di Bitcoin. Lo scopo non e' fare proseliti a tutti i costi, ma piuttosto cercare di spiegare ai (pochissimi) nuovi utenti quali sono i concetti di base. Nota a margine, Binance sara' sicuro quanto vuoi, ma se un giorno devesse saltare, cosa fai ale88 li ripaghi tu quelli che rimarranno inculati visto che se si tocca binance parti sempre con le accuse di FUD? Guarda, aspettavo questo tuo commento dal momento in cui ho premuto il tasto invia Come ho detto e ridetto più volte io semplicemente penso che: 1) Al momento abbiamo ancora bisogno dei CEX 2) In futuro la loro quota di mercato si ridurrà sempre di più (cosa che già accade da tempo) Qui si spala sempre merd@ contro i CEX perché sono poco sicuri, sono tutti scam, etc etc, poi abbiamo Binance che da anni ha un fondo di emergenza e, per quello che mi risulta, ha sempre e dico sempre coperto le perdite degli utenti che sono avvenute a causa loro però no, neanche quello sta bene perché: - Se il fondo è in BTC allora il valore è troppo volatile e potrebbero non bastare - Se il fondo è in BNB allora Binance è uno scam perché BNB è uno scam - Se il fondo è in USDT allora può valere 0 da un giorno all'altro perché Ardoino e Devasini effettivamente hanno bisogno soldi - Se il fondo è in USDC allora non va bene perché c'è dietro Coinbase - Se il fondo fosse in dollari reali allora la banca potrebbe fallire da un giorno all'altro Quindi semplicemente mi chiedo: qual è la soluzione corretta? Non importa quello che si fa, la critica c'è a prescindere, non va mai bene nulla pure quando si sta discutente di un plus per gli utenti perché alla fine non sta scritto da nessuna parte che Binance debba avere queste riserve, è una scelta loro. Poi chiaramente se si scrive per partito preso in base alle simpatie o antipatie mi tiro indietro, è una battaglia persa in partenza. E non mi sembra di aver mai scritto una sola volta che vada bene lasciare fondi su exchange, che sia Binance, Kraken, Finex, o chi per loro, quindi francamente non capisco cosa centrino i valori di bitcoin con l'utilizzo dei CEX, probabilmente tu minerai i tuoi propri bitcoin invece di comprarli usando valuta fiat e CEX come il 99% delle persone, bravo, che altro posso dirti? Se chi legge compra gratta e vinci a seguito di miei post mi dispiace per loro  l'unica cosa che posso dire è che esistono tanti servizi di acquisto/vendita facili da usare e che non richiedono custodia: perchè rischiare dando i propri soldi a sconosciuti inaffidabili? Se in questo forum l'opinione prevalente è diventata quella di promuovere l'uso degli exchange, sappiate subito che io faccio parte della minoranza. L'opinione prevalente del forum dovrebbe essere quella di far capire a cosa serve bitcoin e come può essere comprato, e serve un processo di apprendimento, non è una cosa immediata. Quei servizi di acquista/vendita a cui ti riferisci sono i DEX? Tu faresti comprare i primi bitcoin a qualcuno da solo tramite un DEX quando ogni giorno la gente viene truffata in continuazione? Per me sarebbe come dare una macchina da 500 cv in mano a uno che sta facendo le sue prime guide, la probabilità di incidente è altissima. I CEX per me sono un passaggio necessario perché all'inizio offrono una protezione maggiore, farsi fottere i fondi da persone terze su un exchange è molto più difficile perché dovresti veramente avere tutto compromesso: pc, email, smartphone, tutto quanto. La prima volta che mi sono informato in un forum per capire come comprare bitcoin mi hanno suggerito di mettermi d'accordo con qualcuno e comprarli praticamente per strada, dai, ma siamo seri? Con i DEX non voglio dire che sia la stessa cosa ma serve un grado di apprendimento e consapevolezza maggiore. Se poi suggerire che la forma più comoda di comprare BTC è tramite exchange per alcune persone diventa un "Ale88 dice di tenere tutto quanto sugli exchange perché vi assicura lui che sono sicuri" allora è un altro paio di maniche, io penso di scrivere in un italiano abbastanza comprensibile. |
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