Now, move along to your next username please.
This. Pro-tip: 'Dank' is already taken. |
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I'll give you 150 SC.
also obviously not a business man... once a bitcoin site is created it can be extended easily to support any Crypto-currency. Any that exist today or any in the future.... I suppose with enough work I could bend a fork to look like a spoon in the near future too or any spoons or utensil one might make  Same Question... One Question! Have you done any programming that makes RPC calls to bitcoind? Yes, and 150 is still ridiculous for a product being sold to a community of programmers without ever even stress testing it in a real environment. What you're selling would take most of us barely a week to put together (branding and all). 150BTC is a lot for anyone that isn't incapable of coding, so stop being surprised when the community's developers comment on it negatively. You're looking for suckers, not programmers. |
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This 'island' has been up for sale a few times on ebay and never met the reserve. Note that this is a ' rush, cash only sale' they claim they have no time to wait for banks that should be a huge red flag. Here's the real price of that island and the real brokers that are selling it: http://www.privateislandsonline.com/cayo-iguana-nicaragua.htmAnother huge red flag is this guy used to sell scammy weight loss pills where the bulk of his feedack comes from. Then of course there's this: " Follow-up by swabby-ret (May-03-12 10:45): YOU SOLD ME A RAT AND ROACH INFESTECONDO ON FOREST CITY RD. YOU ARE A DISGRACE! " It also claims there are employees there, well you'd better research Nicaraguan laws because you probably have to keep them employed or pay out severence. You're crazy if you think this is a legit sale and will only cost $127,000. If you want that cheap (and economic paradise) then look into Ecuador land or North Cyprus Finally, someone with half a brain in this thread. |
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When I first saw these games last year I thought to myself "Who would buy a board game for over $200?". Hell, who would buy one for $50? I must not be a nerd. |
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Sorry to ask, phorensic, but how do you get those graphs?
http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/Was somebody really happy to just trade with themselves in a .00001 spread?
Could have been a test of a system of some kind. Lots of systems doing tests these days. Even we do this sometimes. |
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What MNW proposes here is actually a very common practice among various interest groups, political parties etc.
This tactic was perfected by Israeli intelligence, who would organize anti-Palestinian, pro-Israel comment mobs using their Megaphone software.
These days, I suspect that many comments under political and economic articles on major sites are paid for as part of PR or Public Shaping campaigns. Not to mention the articles themselves.
You're describing "astroturfing" which is not at all what I proposed. Sorry for the confusion. What I'm referring to is that in a one-on-one debate in any forum, website, chatroom, there are usually 10+ detractors causing noise and spreading FUD to keep people from hearing the debate. The solution I believe is to bring in 10+ counter-detractors, kind of like being on someone in basketball. That person is responsible for engaging the troll until the troll is depleted of energy or lies to tell, while the real debate continues. I don't think there is anything unethical or immoral about it, and since we're not intending to influence but rather equalize, I don't think there's anything wrong with it in the slightest. |
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Also, the idea of setting a specific target to raise is foolish, because we don't know how much it will ultimately take to win the bidding, and there is no such thing as raising "too much." If "too much" is raised, it can be paid back in proportion to investment made.
That, again, is assuming that a more reasonable plan is proposed, as opposed to us all making donations so that benjamindees can just own the island outright.
Having no target translates to a bottomless donation pool that may never reach any specific goals and will charge a fee to give money back. That would ultimately be a scam imo. |
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Who needs a hot wallet to begin with?
They don't. That's why anything in the future will likely use ZipConf instead. |
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Oh and another thing: hoard or save, please explain the difference to me. It seems to me that people use the work hoard when they want it to sound "bad" and save (or savings) when they want it to sound "good". That is the only difference I can see between the two.
I suppose the action is identical and only the intention different. Saving is done with the intent to spend at a later date. Hoarding seems to imply wanting to 'have it all' just out of pure greed. |
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Genuine bump.
i wish i could get off this train actually but i probably shouldn't delete my posts out of this thread.
Can I bump into you? |
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@OP: I'm not expert on trusts, timeshares or real estate, but why not try something like this: - Set the purchase price to something a bit more reasonable that includes potential upkeep fees ($500,000). You won't win that island for $125,000. It's not going to happen.
- Divide that $500k into 52 shares.
- Put all shareholders on a Board of Directors and hold a vote for new Chairman of the Board of Directors every year.
- All upkeep, taxes, maintenance, etc will be decided by the Board through voting. If someone trashed the place, they pay for it. Otherwise, everyone splits the fees.
- The Board of Directors (up to 52 people) will organize, agree on, and schedule 1 week of living time at the island for each member of the board, unless some members can agree to share time in which case they get more time together (3 members who want to share can have it for 3 weeks).
What if someone wants to live there forever? - If the Board of Directors agrees by a vote of 75%, convert the timeshare system to a property ownership system and divide the land into 52 sections with landshare owners nearest the water receiving a larger grid space.
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The point is for the entire Bitcoin community to buy an island because it's awesome.
..and island that no one will own and everyone will be fighting for creative control over. If I participated in this, I'd want to be able to move there and put up a house of my own. Will that be allowed? What if my house takes up more space than the relevant percentage of investment? Are there any rules, laws, ordinances, codes etc I need to abide by? If so, who is responsible for enforcing them? What happens if I ignore them? Who will reprimand me and through what means? Can my shares ever be taken away from me? Can I ever be banned from the island? Can I visit it anytime I want? What if I have a giant party there and never clean up the mess? Will someone try to take away my shares by force?  EDIT: It seems like we'd all be helping you buy an island and that'd be the end of it. |
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These scammers are still up and running? Has anyone actually gotten anything from them, bitcoins or otherwise?
I haven't seen anything. |
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Loving the buttcoins.com website as always.
It's buttcoins.org  Oops! Sorry. I meant to say buttcoins.org but I must be a bit sleepy. How'd that photo shoot with that one asian chick work out?
I suppose she's doing fine. Last I heard she's working on a new website. If you need any other photos of me for the buttcoins.com article let me know! |
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Sound great Matthew N. Wright, another winning idea!
Upvotes to you good sirs, you win the internet. Epic winnery FTW. Troll fail is fail, luz boat full steam ahead to pwning lamerz.
I think it can't hurt much to get together and participate in some canvasing, present some good arguments and be there to help Bitcoiners who aren't sure how to argue the points with seasoned economists etc, but I am thinking my original post was a bit off. It comes across like nothing more than being butthurt and nonconstructive. Sorry guys. I think I need a break from the 'puter for a while. Loving the buttcoins.com website as always. |
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"Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
LOL! I love that |
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Anything to finally combat the problem of trolling is welcome for me.On most forums I've been on,this isn't such a big problem (as the few trolls who remain get dealt with quickly by the mods) .Why is this the only forum I find, that this is an issue?
The de-trolling we're talking about isn't for this forum. It's for websites like reddit, etc, where groups of misinformed individuals will spread their FUD at a rate faster than the few supporters can respond to, making it an unfair and bias debate that basically is unapproachable from all sides. By doing this, the detractors think they have "won" by "saving the world" from Bitcoin, when in fact what they're doing is working against the most truest of principles-- the sharing of information. I don't mind Scientologists coming to a forum and talking about their beliefs, because in debating it we get to the point. If 100 people gang up on 1 Scientologist and say "You're a faggot, go to hell stupid bitch. Scientology is gay", then no one will be able to get to the actual argument to learn anything about why it is right/wrong. Some might think "Yea but Scientology IS gay, and it's a scam!" but a majority of people could say exactly the same thing about absolutely anything you believe in including you personally, and then you'd wish there was a fair debate. The astroturfing they effectively do causes Bitcoin to look bad even when it hasn't done anything wrong. The only way to handle it is to mow the astroturf. They do it with Bitcoiners, I don't see what we can't do it to them in reverse. Also, problem with this forum is also one of its greatest experimental benefits: More freedom. |
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