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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: November 17, 2017, 03:28:15 AM
Now the ETH price is around $ 340 and I'm optimistic that the price of ethereum will reach $ 500 before Christmas, maybe this is a long wait because almost 9 months the price is never more than $ 320.


ready to go.... I think over 600 $ before Christmas i have Change my Bitcoins into Ethereum. Wink

I don't understand the logic behind this. Lots of junior accounts have been coming around with speculation of $500+ by end of year. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see such valuations, but where's the reason behind it? Just because market price has been moving north of $300 the last several days? That's a common trap that amateurs (not necessarily you) fall into: "it's been going up so it's going to continue going up!".
382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 14, 2017, 06:05:25 AM
Dev has managed to get obvious: sign-up your bitcointalk user profile along with a vlaid email address for the airdrop. Stop whinning about this and get it done and see what happens. Good luck to all.

so there will be an airdrop from decred? can somebody confirm this?

The airdrop was in 2016, there will be no other.


there was a fake airdrop! ~ i'm not the only one who got gypped by this outfit

You're wrong: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1290358.msg22659558#msg22659558
383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 11, 2017, 08:53:29 PM
Asics don't cause centralization in Decred.
The decisions are taken by stake holders through POS mining tickets.
Decred found the solution to the btc governance problem

Yes the miners don't have the (voting)power to fork but that doesn't mean at all that mining itself wont be centralized due to ASICs.

You have a serious misunderstanding of the matter.

I'd challenge that. Asics don't cause centralization of mining anymore than GPU-mined PoW chains. Pool mining is a much larger cause of mining centralization than asics.

The only real difference between an asic and a gpu, is the asic costs more and can only be used for that 1 algo. The "offender" there is the higher cost of hardware. It's true, that will price some small miners out of the mining game (and thus, the argument of causing centralization). However, those exact same small-time miners are mining, guess where, with pools! They are not solo mining and adding to a decentralized network. Do you see how this counters the argument of "gpu == decentralization"?

You should go search for case studies on Ethereum vs Bitcoin mining centralization. I'm betting you'll learn a thing or two.  Cool

While large pools pose an issue, you seem to neglect the bigger picture and principals at hand.

The distribution, the issuance, the subsidy of the coin itself is what you should be concerned way first and foremost about.
I mean isn't that obvious to you? How come this even needs to be said ...

Do I really need to spell it out? The coin distribution itself will be more centralized which is one of the WORST things to happen to any coin which claims to operate in a fair and DEcentralized manner.

And you dare to challenge THAT?

 Shocked

Lol Ok, try to get off that high horse. We're adults (at least I am) having a discussion Smiley

Issuance and subsidy is agnostic to gpu vs asic mining topic (as long as difficulty adjustment works well). Concerning coin distribution: it's a downside. But again, I'd argue it doesn't outweigh the plethora of security benefits gained, at least imo (and the opinion of the devs Smiley )

BTC makes a great case study. Despite the centralization of hash power (which we also see occurs with gpu algos), chain security is high, and the coin is obviously prospering. And that was "v1" of Asic coins! Take a look at LTC coin distribution compared to BTC. See the wider distribution among wallets? It's reasonable to say then, that DCR distribution will also be *at least as* good as BTC's, e.g. due to manufacturer lessons learned.

Let's not forget that PoW is only 1 way the chain is secured. That's especially critical when considering the distribution problem. PoS through tickets is a low-barrier entry for "mining" DCR, meaning those individuals priced out of asics will be able to mine. The counter argument for that would be ticket price I suppose. 79 DCR ticket x $30/DCR = $2370 for one ticket right now. Luckily, DCR started with a larger distribution than most coins due to the airdrop Cheesy
384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: November 11, 2017, 08:41:35 PM
When is ETH turning to PoS??

At least another year. Search for news on Casper.
385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Obelisk tech to release Miner for Decred with the DCR1 on: November 11, 2017, 02:01:27 AM
Everyone see this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/siacoin/comments/7bgbmx/11717_update_on_obelisk_sc1_estimated_at_600_ghs/

1 Th/s DCR!!!  Grin
386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 11, 2017, 01:22:29 AM
Asics don't cause centralization in Decred.
The decisions are taken by stake holders through POS mining tickets.
Decred found the solution to the btc governance problem

Yes the miners don't have the (voting)power to fork but that doesn't mean at all that mining itself wont be centralized due to ASICs.

You have a serious misunderstanding of the matter.

I'd challenge that. Asics don't cause centralization of mining anymore than GPU-mined PoW chains. Pool mining is a much larger cause of mining centralization than asics.

The only real difference between an asic and a gpu, is the asic costs more and can only be used for that 1 algo. The "offender" there is the higher cost of hardware. It's true, that will price some small miners out of the mining game (and thus, the argument of causing centralization). However, those exact same small-time miners are mining, guess where, with pools! They are not solo mining and adding to a decentralized network. Do you see how this counters the argument of "gpu == decentralization"?

You should go search for case studies on Ethereum vs Bitcoin mining centralization. I'm betting you'll learn a thing or two.  Cool
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: November 10, 2017, 06:57:06 AM
I have often noticed that the Ethereum is artificially held at $ 300, and most likely it is already worth 500-600 dollars in the potential, and after the second stage of the hardfork it can fly to $ 1000.
I don't think it's artificially held anywhere. You seem to be forgetting that Ethereum gets dumped in order to fund ICO projects once the ICOs are over, so that negates most of the buy power of Ethereum. It's meant as an investing token after all.

...no, Eth is meant to be fuel for EVM operations. Its simply being used as investment.
388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: November 08, 2017, 11:24:09 PM
I truly believe they should delay the Initial public offering and reexamine. It is obvious that the substantial area of the neighborhood has issues with the present framework.

initial puiblic offering of ethereum was years ago.
we are at page 794

It's just shit posting for post #s (likely for paid accounts/traffic). Report the accounts and move on.
389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 08, 2017, 06:32:12 AM
Why is the decred team so silent talking about the POW algorithm and the introduction of ASIC.

I mean how come that a coin which is all about COMMUNITY GOVERNANCE ignores their community?

And why in the hell design an ASIC and put huge effort (and cost) in it if you could instead simply FORK the algo with a COMMUNITY vote to one where ASICs already exist !!!   POLITEIA !!!
They even talk about raising funds for the development of said ASIC but instead with POLITEIA the community could vote to change the algo eg to SHA256 or x11 in the first place and spare us said fundraising ...

And besides that why CORNER the mining to a limited amount of hardware which favors the few ...

And moreover why not delve into a multi algorithm POW phase if you guys so embrace the ASIC abuse ...


I suggest a name change to: Cecred

bruh...btctalk is one of the last places to look for news and conversation. Go check the slack for instance.  Roll Eyes
390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 06, 2017, 06:25:45 PM
I've already seen some similar ICO, why are you different?

There is no ICO in Decred.
ICO is scam, people pay a pre-set amount off the market for a promise written on a piece of paper that has not even begun to be developed and which usually will never be.

The funny thing is that these same people often criticize a premine, where devs need to work to make the market value the coins that will serve as their payoff.
All the similar projects you saw there are copies of Decred.

Decred is a project that finances itself through its own mined coins.

With each block 60% of the coins are destined to the POW miners, 30% to the POS miners confirming the POW mining, avoiding that a concentration of hashrate can determine the path of the coin and 10% are destined to the development fund.
At the beggining, a premine was made to finance the currency until the 10% of mining reached a reasonable amount for that.

Contrary to what the fudders say, the premine doesn't go all for the main devs.
8% of the total coins were premined, of these 8%, half were distributed to thousands of people around the world through airdrop.
Of the remaining 4%, about 1% went to the initial development fund, paying for marketing, design and also other devs still leaving an amount that continues in this fund.

Only around 3% were allocated to main devs as payment for all the work done since 2013, including the development of BITCOIN SUITE, which today is responsible for enabling ATOMIC SWAPS and is a fundamental basis for the development of LIGHTNING NETWORK.
Work recognized and consecrated by other currencies devs and also by LN developers.

Ethereum was coded using the bitcoin suite developed by Decred devs.

premine and your airdrop was a fraud i am speaking on behalf of me & several people who got gypped ! :\ Where is the Israeli Bitcoin Cartel behind this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1290358.msg22659558#msg22659558
391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 05, 2017, 06:56:21 PM
These 3 accounts (amazonpipet, joitheaddiapir, anklesinvidious) look to be dropping random questions or compliments on random ANN threads - just general shitposting for gains. They even posted the same things as the others....Bots?
392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v10.1 (Windows/Linux) on: November 05, 2017, 05:06:29 AM
Kinda offtopic: what do you guys think of the Obelisk DCR ASIC? Sia too for that matter...gonna hurt those mining options.
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 05, 2017, 04:56:14 AM
The Obelisk DCR1 Asic miner for Decred looks very interesting. This will also reflect the price of this coin like the D3 did it for Dash.

Ya, this was great news for DCR! With the recent pump in btc...I'm considering how many I should preorder (2-5 range). Considering various scenarios for difficulty come june/july time, profitability for these look really good. Thoughts?
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: November 04, 2017, 01:52:27 AM
I'm not sure Microsoft is going to like that you "borrowed" their coin idea.  Wink Still, interesting nonetheless, will keep tabs.

Well, original dev has long since left the project, and was anonymous anyway. Besides, this blockchain has been running for a few years now already Cheesy
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: November 03, 2017, 04:11:57 PM
I can't really understand, why is Burst so cheap now? On your opinion what are that main engines, which can drive the coin Up?
PoS with Masternode, maybe?

Burst consensus works by PoC only. The reason for cheap price is simple: BTC is fucking pumping through the roof. All alts are down.
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: November 02, 2017, 06:50:04 AM

Nice.  Do you think bitcoin will go down?  It always sells for the holidays and visa and maybe amazon will be accepting it.  Wouldnt they wanna kill the price some for the holidays then rally after so they profit the most?    
I could be wrong, but I believe with this hype from mainstream and social media, Bitcoin's price have never going below 3k. I think that we will see a correction on the market very soon.

You wont see sub 4K BTC prices ever again.  Even sub 5K is unlikely.  Price hit 6K again last night. Price will climb next couple weeks before fork for new ATH. I am guessing very high 6 range possibly even break into 7s. More and more people believe in this tech now.  I just read that Coinbase alone has 35K new accounts made every single day. That number will grow rapidly too.  



You have no idea what your talking about, just repeating a sales pitch or something it sounds like, Coinbase for some time was having 100 thousand sign ups a day so from what you say now there is 75% less.  The fork is over.  Both of them.  The 3 year debate is over.  3 year rally over.  Its time for a major sell off slash correction. There is absolutely no reason to hold bitcoin right now for anyone who values money.  Even the hardware limitations are being reached.  They had to create 2 separate chains to mine for weeks at a time to lower difficulty because its being mined too fast.  All those Coinbase purchasers early this year are gonna dump that income tax check they spent on bitcoin and have a great Christmas before it is to late.   If you think bitcoin will only go up from now on you are sadly mistaken.  

Edit: This tech is obsolete already its about to get replaced like the blackberry.

lol. And here we go, about to step over that $7k threshold. Looks like dllhg totally fucking called it. Glad I've held onto my btc Cheesy   Grin

Luckily though, the dcr/btc price is like 1/2 what it was 1 month ago. Nearly time to buy some cheap cheap DCR!!!
397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: November 02, 2017, 06:38:37 AM
LinkedIn executive spearheads new blockchain startup to create world’s first global WI-FI platform

https://blog.coinspectator.com/2017/10/31/linkedin-executive-spearheads-new-blockchain-startup-to-create-worlds-first-global-wi-fi-platform/


IUNGO is a community based distributed wireless internet service provider. Through their blockchain technology software and hardware they would like to bootstrap communities where people take on responsibilities and benefit from various rewards. Members can also contribute to the network by installing public wi-fi access points in their premises.

The company aims to use existing local internet infrastructure to provide the bandwidth and overlay its own access layer to enable unified end-user identification, authentication and billing systems making it possible for users to rent bandwidth and hire it seamlessly on the Ethereum network....


So if i understand ETH will be POS

and we will be minting ETH in our wallet on computers


is there any calculations how many stakes you will get for aprox. 500, 1000eth in wallet?

thanks

I would ask is there any information how Casper will work. I haven't seen a white paper for it yet, I'm quite curious about it. Is there any white paper by the way?

PoS details are being developed still (~1.5 years). Vitalik made public the Casper "Muave" paper. Just search for it and you'll find a copy.  Its by no means complete, as mentioned, the design is still being finalized and code being written.
398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: October 25, 2017, 05:05:15 PM
With bitcoin correct im sure we will see money come into ETH, also should see more money as ETH itself is post fork now

When the bitcoin is in trouble in the next three weeks, people will buy ETH or Bitcoin Cash.

I wouldn't put much stock in bitcoin cash. Unless segwit2x surprises everyone and rockets, I think btc alts will be "doomed".
399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: October 24, 2017, 06:59:50 PM
There is no use of smart contracts in real business and Ethereum platform itself became a holy grail for scammers thanks to ERC20 token creation possibility.   

that was a clueless comment, well done.



oh sure he is right, you are just a fanboy trying to defend his iphone
ETH have spread scams, shit ICO, shitcoins, shit project, thats all it bring to crypto community, and its the only coin doing this. They need to rename smart contract to smart scam

First, you're dead wrong on the bolded. You must be young in the crypto world.

Second, maybe "they" need to update car to murder vehicle, because some people like to get drunk, drive and don't give 2 shits how that affects others.

Ethereum is an open source utility protocol.  If you really believe your words, you should consider taking a step back and rethinking a lot of things.
400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: October 22, 2017, 06:52:54 AM
Huh Am I looking at a scammer here? Got an email today saying I'll receive 10% after the fork. I was instructed to open my wallet from the following website:
MyEtherWallet.store

 Shocked Warning: I have not opened my wallet here. It seems unnecessary if a distribution is happening.

Yes, with 99.999% certainty, that is a scam. Dont follow such links. The real MEW is not at that address. I'm quite sure its a phishing scam.
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