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41  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will accepting cryptocurrency as a payment be profitable for business? on: March 09, 2023, 10:09:39 AM
It depends on the business you are referring to, is it online or offline? If it's offline, then there will be a lot of competitors, as many fiats transactions are even free when you use some payment channels.

But for online payments, the time of making the transaction should be considered in the case of Bitcoin, the gas fee at the mempool matters to what would be charged and might be a discouragement for customers.

The fluctuation of the price is another thing to consider for the merchant holding it. This is why some might only accept it when it is appreciating.


I totally agree with you here. I believe Bitcoin as a means of payment will excel in many other aspects from easy cross-border payments and being a fast transaction means etc however, I too believe that with its volatility nature, how many businesses will want to accept it when they know the price could easily drop especially in a bear market like this? I think this might be the only downside to it except the business owner is willing to hodl till the price grows again and I don't know how that business can continue to get financed.
42  Economy / Speculation / Re: Maybe it's time for BTC to take off and reach the $100K on: March 08, 2023, 10:40:31 AM
All this wait, same price for months, sounds like the calm before the storm. Maybe it's time for BTC to take off and reach the $100K. Just saying. This price is a joke for BTC's potential. Of course all we can do is hope. But it makes me wonder why it's not happening yet. Right now BTC is cheap as peanuts. Luckily 1 BTC = 1 BTC.
The Bitcoin market has been capped at $22,000 for the past several weeks, is this cap a sign of an upside for the Bitcoin market. I totally agree with you because the environment is pretty quiet before the storm starts. The Bitcoin market will start storming because of this or maybe there has been a stable market condition in the Bitcoin market for several weeks. However, many believe that the March Bitcoin market may be between $25,000 and $30,000. Others predict the opposite and their prediction is that Bitcoin may fall below $20,000 in March. But no matter what the Bitcoin market is, Bitcoin means Bitcoin, that is, 1 Bitcoin = 1 Bitcoin.
Bitcoin actually traded above $25k on 21 Feb. 2023 and was not really capped at $22k as you said for the past weeks however I do also believe as some people have predicted if you look at the Bitcoin daily chat as seen here:
It does seem like the Bitcoins price keeps getting rejected at the red descending line and the white line saves as support even from back since 2017. So if this price will still drop down some more, that $20k price could happen since that support line is within that range or even lower but overall, I believe that $100k is not a problem even if not as quickly as OP thinks.
43  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time is the most valuable thing on: March 08, 2023, 08:28:45 AM
If people only know how great it is to spend your time doing want really benefits you instead of benefiting others even though it's not right for you, they will do less work and focus to chase that free time that they really wanted. Happiness is our goal and it's not always with money and time just walking around and experiencing some new adventure is what we are looking for. Also, I have experienced these kinds of scenarios once in my life when I don't have any money with me. I am really thankful that I found this community that thought me to be financially free and to live my life without any boss to tell me when to wake up in the morning and that alone is a big thing to thank God for.
I am a bit confused about what you are getting at, In my bolded part of your comment, you are claiming that even though"Happiness is your goal but it is not always about money" and in the same breath you claim "I am really thankful that I found this community that thought me to be financially free and to live my life without any boss to tell me when to wake up in the morning and that alone is a big thing to thank God for." It does seem to me that you do need money to live that boss life you like.
I understand this cos I am currently not employed for a number of years now but have been able to sustain myself and my family from Bitcoin profits over the years and can also confirm the plenty of free time Cool however, I don't think we should leave it at that level instead of investing on other layers of revenue generation even if you no longer want to be an employee. 
44  Economy / Economics / Re: Is taking a loan/debt addicted ? on: March 07, 2023, 02:43:46 PM
Well, I have to clarify that personally I have never had any loan or debt in my life so this thread has nothing to do with my experience but intends to find out how people in loan/debt deal with the problem. Let's say you take loans from a bank and sometimes for whatever reason, you can not pay the debt on time, then you borrow money from other channels. Sure this works for a certain period but later bad things may happen, you have to postpone the payment and struggle with finances again. Isn't this a vicious circle ? How would you deal with the problem ? I am all ears.
If I even think of taking a loan it would be that I have a business that I intend to kick start or boost an existing one that will enable me to pay back that loan without stress or I have a job that can also aid by paying back the loan quickly without stress. I believe the problem would be people taking loans when they don't have the means of paying them back and investing in something that wouldn't yield ROI  and I wouldn't go for that cos it would play out as you have explained.
45  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Advantage of holding Bitcoin in time of crisis on: March 07, 2023, 11:21:56 AM

There are many advantage to holding Bitcoin apart from what you have mentioned so let's just stick to what works for us. The current crisis between Russia and Ukraine had deprived many people of there right and acces to good food.

Just a question, does holding Bitcoin give them access to good food?  I wonder how can holding Bitcoin help these people in accessing good food?  Isn't it more convenient to them if they have cash to pay for their food?  As far as I know, there isn't much retail stores that accept Bitcoin as payment, and there are still many suppliers that are not into Bitcoin.  So I wonder, what change does it gives holding Bitcoin against holding cash in hand?

We might not not the effect now until we get a grasp of what people that are there are suffering. War is not something we should encourage but the use of Bitcoin since had been helping many Ukraine citizens on donation and free will to help the injured and dead Ukraine soldiers.

Isn't fiat donation helping them the same way Bitcoin donation helping them?

The only thing I see holding Bitcoin become advantage is that it can increase in price in the long run, meaning if you are holding $100 worth of BTC today, there is a possibility that in then next years you will be holding more than $100 but there is also a possibility that you can hold less if the price of Bitcoin crash.

In time of crisis and people have no way to earn money, I do not think people will hold on their Bitcoin when they don't have money to spend for their needs, they will eventually cash out to pay for rents and bills.  I am not negative about holding Bitcoin but I am just saying the obvious when crisis arises, unless you have lots of money that you do not need to touch your cryptocurrency holdings.
I agree and you literally took the words out of my mouth. I however understand how much we will continue to support Bitcoin and as I have always said, most people do so because of the gains from its speculative nature. Yes, Bitcoin does save against inflation and I have personally enjoyed this aspect of it as I believe most of us too but even with the recent fiat difficulty in my region now, Bitcoin is yet to cover that vacuum in terms of daily payment even though it is also well accepted by a good number of the vibrant youths. While it has other advantages of holding Bitcoin, I personally wouldn't consider this as one for now.

46  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: BREAKING NEWS: Old naira note remain valid till Dec 31 2023 by supreme court. on: March 07, 2023, 11:01:19 AM
But I'm angry that the current government played Nigeria in this way. From the rumours I heard, I understand that this policy was targeted at Tinubu as Atiku is the person behind this lack of cash flow policy by the CBN. I heard Atiku vice was from the same region as the CBN governor and they tried to make money not available to tinubu for rigging of the election but guess their plans failed as he still successfully rigged it and has been declared the President elect.
Supreme court don give their verdict, but since that day we never hear anything official from the CBN nor the presidency, even if Supreme court talk say make the old 200, 500 and 1000 naira notes become legal tender again until Dec 31, we still need the CBN to release the old notes wey them been collect, because as e be so there is little or no old notes in circulation. Naija they carry person play.
No be to even release the old notes be the issue now because as e be now, some banks done dey release those old N500 and 1K notes as confirmed by some persons on tweeter asking about update of the old naira notes but the problem na say, most people no wan collect the money from them if you wan spend am. The president and the CBN governor need to address the issue because the hardship done much.
47  Economy / Economics / Re: Social media, now looking more for business than for socializing. on: March 06, 2023, 06:33:55 PM
Do you think social media is now becoming more a place for business than socializing, Could it be as a result of digitalization and things moving online or more people now starting business online because of need to somehow generate income or another source of income for self to survive the economic situations which is becoming tougher?
You are right and it has become inevitable too. More people are online now so why not take advantage of that by bringing the market/business online on every social media platform. We can see these days how easy it is for people to advertise their businesses on every social media space even when the original information isn't about that business cos it has become much quicker for people to see your business that way and why not make money instead of just socializing on there.
48  Economy / Economics / Re: Are people really having the wrong concept of savings? on: March 06, 2023, 06:25:05 PM
"Are people really having the wrong concept of savings?" This topic and question was triggered earlier this morning after writing on two separate threads where it seems people are already misunderstanding the concept of saving
saving according to Google search from Banco Central de la República Argentina |
"Saving is the portion of income not spent on current expenditures. In other words, it is the money set aside for future use and not spent immediately."
The word "use"(spend) is the key word of concentration because it seems people talk so much of savings as if one isn't supposed to use their saving even until death and I began to wonder what the purpose of saving really is.
We ought to save money so money can save us and some also say that we ought to save for raining days and we should know that our raining days might differ and one should be free to use their savings and not feel they're doing something wrong when using their hard earned savings.
 What's your concept of savings?
Ordinarily, it wouldn't sound wise for someone to just spend everything they are earning weekly/monthly as the case may be unless there might be a serious need for it hence, people should usually save at least about 10-15% of their monthly earnings. People will save for different reasons, some people have something they intend to do in the future or just saving for their retirement, however, it doesn't really mean you cannot spend for it if something should arise which I believe is referred to there as "raining days"
49  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think BTC would rise again? on: March 05, 2023, 06:22:30 PM
Judging from the long period of time BTC has not accumulate any impression, I doubt if people are still investing because of many policies formulating against cryptosystem no industries and firm wants to risk their capital again. Would the system remains this way?

Normally I understand this wasn't the first time BTC has experience this down slide but then it was normally market situations but now many billionares has withdrew interest in this project, then what is the hope of this project? Do you think BTC will experience better and high price?
Is there proof of your claim that many billionaires have withdrawn interest in Bitcoin? No surprise here from a Newbie worrying about Bitcoin price Grin It took Bitcoin 1211 Days from the 2017 ATH to the 2021 ATH and from that time till now, we are just 686 days. There is no question whether Bitcoin will touch a new ATH cos it certainly will so just relax and buy some more  Wink
50  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What If There Is A Ban on: March 05, 2023, 05:37:04 PM
We all agree we're living in a crazy world and what's far worse is that it is managed by a bunch of clowns..
So, let's think wildly, one day US were to further increase the censorship just like some of the other countries in the world, they ban bitcoin, they ban VPN, they pass legislation for those who mine/trade/spend btc will be sent to jail.
(Let's not say it's not going to happen. It can! You never know just like you would never have known that there's a war in 2022.)

Other countries start to follow.

Where will you be and what kind of life will it be and how is it going to impact yours?

This is a hypothetical thinking that Bitcoin could be banned around the world however I think this could not happen even though I understand how some of us might want to always think of the worst-case scenario with Bitcoin. Let's not forget that Bitcoin is already a legal tender in two countries, El Salvador and the Central African Republic while some other regions totally support its trade even though it is not yet a legal tender there like the UAE and many other countries, this image will show you how much crypto, in general, has been adopted globally, so like I said, hypothetically I don't think that will happen.


 
51  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: BREAKING NEWS: Old naira note remain valid till Dec 31 2023 by supreme court. on: March 04, 2023, 08:07:41 PM
I believe the main reason why the CBN went back on its policy to re-use the old notes is more than the reason we know. Perhaps, would have this development been made if it was a different candidate from the current winner of the just concluded election, who won?
Will POS charges reduce now that the old notes have been called back?
These are questions we need to find out, because we are going to be on a really long thing if charges remain same, no new notes in circulation.
Am ready to start using the old notes I left and am hoping others have started accepting it.
You do understand that No be CBN reversed the matter, it was the supreme court verdict, however, who knows how these politicians they take our head play. The same person that was alleged to be the bain of the whole money saga eventually turned out to be the winner of the election, at least for the main time  Grin until he is sown in, but I believe it was good news overall that was get to continue to spend the rest of the denominations.  
52  Economy / Economics / Re: Is renting an inevitable waste of money? on: March 04, 2023, 07:55:45 PM
On top of that, finding the ideal house as a renter is almost impossible; there's a lack of housing, and rents are extremely expensive and unreasonable at the same time. We had a difficult time finding a house recently, and it's far from ideal. There is now a new government-funded loan program that is about to start, funding up to 75% of the loan interest-free while the rest is funded by private banks and is subject to a relatively low interest rate. This led me to think about taking a loan and purchasing an average two-bedroom apartment, but I have the concerns that I voiced earlier.

I believe this is where the major problems are in my location too especially if you are looking for a house in a nice location and a comfortable house too. Prices are usually expensive and it is only in that high-priced houses too that you might likely find funded by Banks and these ones are not interest-free either it is however also much easier to rent as long as it is not expensive.
53  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many crypto wallets do you own? on: March 04, 2023, 06:31:53 PM
I was reading about the Luke Dashjr BTC hack and it got me thinking if people have multiple crypto wallets and addresses.

I think having a cold wallet that isn't connected to the internet plus numerous online wallets is a precaution everyone should take.

The benefits being;

- If you are hacked you won't lose all your crypto assets

- If you forget one private key you won't lose all your crypto assets

- Smaller transactions (since your crypto will be dispersed across many wallets) will not draw as much attention thus increasing privacy.

I will be taking these steps in the next few days to give myself peace of mind.

I'm curious if others think I'm being too paranoid or have carried out some of these practices.

Meaning you are holding a lot of Bitcoin starch Huh  Grin Grin

Anyways, If I have a number of Bitcoin, I would definitely have a hardware wallet for that instead of holding them in many online wallets and with regards to losing your keys, also understand that in Bitcoin investment there is the saying, "Not your Keys Not your Coins"  so your best choice is HD wallet and hold whatever little amount you wish to trade in an exchange wallet except you want to trade in multiple exchanges hence you will be having multiple online wallets which I don't see the sense in that.
54  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How will you feel when your government make BTC legal? on: March 04, 2023, 06:19:19 PM
My way to class this morning with some of my lovely course mate, someone raise this question that if our government decide to adopt BTC or make BTC legal how will i feel? I told him that the day our government will announce that BTC is now fully legalized in the country, I will throw a big party to host all the bitcoiners in my environment to join me to celebrate. If your government decide to adopt BTC or make BTC legal in your country, how will you feel?  Will you be among the people that will be angry because i know there are some people in our various places that think BTC is a scam digital currency which is not true, will you go to make them to understand it better in a positive way?
First of, for those that did not previously believe in BTCitcoin, it will no longer be a question of convincing them that Bitcoin is not a scam because they would have seen that even their Government has made it a legal tender and it is part of their official payment system.
Secondly, I believe that even when this is so, some people might still be reluctant to spend their Bitcoin because I personally believe that most people see Bitcoin as an investment than a financial tool, especially during the bull season however, I think I would love that I will be able to spend my Bitcoin if I fell like it.
55  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic power on: March 03, 2023, 05:34:35 PM
I think "means to produce" might be a better term here.

A good economy and the emergence of a strong political power normally stem from being able to produce something. It is normally either food, good transport links or exports.
Definitely. A good Government will always want to take its economy to a Production economy which in turn strengthens that economy. An economy that is not able to use its resources for optimal productivity will certainly reflect in its relevance within nations and that too affects its political power or relevance.

On the opposite it is not that way rather the other way round at least in this modern situation. Political power is now showing to be more powerful than economic power. Political power covers also decision making. So whoever has political power can take a decision against he who has economic power which is the money. In the real sense to have economic power, you have to involve in some kind of business or investment but that investment area can be rendered useless, unimportant or just very little profit that will be frustrating to the business owners by the decision made politically by those in power or parliament. It is a simple analysis that can be made broad and reference to our daily economic life in different countries. If there are no good economic policies for investment and businesses to grow then they will remain stunted.

I think you are looking at it from a micro perspective. In a broader sense, Say a country that doesn't have any resources and really doesn't generate much revenue, what type of political power could they possibly have amongst their pair nations  Huh   
56  Economy / Economics / Re: Cash is not trash on: March 03, 2023, 05:06:06 PM

Even if bitcoin becomes legal, I believe people will not put fiat money aside and use bitcoin as an alternative to fiat. In many cases, fiat is still needed, if you move to a place where there is no internet, then bitcoin will be useless, and fiat will be useful. Given the volatility bitcoin is really suited as an investment, as a commodity rather than a payment.
This is still the problem of many countries who dream for advancement of technology the scope of their internet as well their people understanding about it. Old generations were not able to access internet yet due to their location as well they don’t want to adopt in change which requires governments to still do common setups as well using fiat as mode of payment despite the advantage and ease the internet and crypto can do. Implementation will be hard unless people are open to accept change.
Even if people are willing to accept change but like you said, the infrastructure is still a major problem for those that want to use the system. These past few weeks have been a major headache around my country because the inter-banking online transactions have been terrible because fiat was not available after the Government redesigned the fiat currency and put a limit to when the old one would no longer be accepted, limiting the number of new designs that were printed and once that date came, everyone was trying to go online and the system was overwhelmed.
Now think of when the internet would go down, especially in developing countries, so the infrastructure for that to be well accepted is important hence, fiat in hand will always be important.
57  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My first investment for Bitcoin on: March 03, 2023, 04:48:14 PM
Investment in Bitcoin is not a do or die thing. You shouldn't use all money at hand in investment but rather extra cash that has little or no use to you. No one said that you must invest in Bitcoin. You should consider yourself first so you won't go broke

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I haven't started my career yet. I got idea about bitcoin and got interested in bitcoin investment. But where to get money? I don't have that much wealth. Father gives me money for hand expenses. I didn't spend that money. I saved about $14.55 with that money and invested in my first Bitcoin today. When I have more money I will invest more and more bitcoins.

On the other hand, it's a good start but it won't be nice if you loss your investment to a scam after all the savings so be careful. You should have spent the money on what your father gave it to you for. all that is actually not necessary.
His saving the money for Bitcoin investment isn't a bad thing either and maybe he has weighed the option between spending it and investing in Bitcoin. I believe everyone that comes to hear and understand Bitcoin a bit will certainly want to invest if only for its speculative nature even though all investors might not understand its technology so on that note, OP has taken the right step, and hope he is able to continue on this move which will be well worth it in the long run.
58  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Caution Newbies Bitcoin is BTC on: March 03, 2023, 04:28:43 PM
One of my friend told me that he has heard about bitcoin as it is being advertised in that tournament and he asked me if he should buy Bitcoin as it was advertised in PSL ?

Was this the first time your friend hears about Bitcoin or you have discussed it before? I am curious because if he is hearing about it for the first time then why is he coming to you to discuss what he has never known before instead of asking for clarification of what it is Huh Definitely, newbies to the crypto space could make these mistakes especially when they don't take the time to first know even though they are quite DIFFERENT.
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60  Economy / Economics / Re: Cash is not trash on: March 01, 2023, 09:37:59 AM
In my country presently, we know how important cash has become, the government decide to renew our Fiat currency and it's not in circulation yet, for some reasons, some people believe that it was intentional because they don't want some bad actors to use Fiat to rig the ongoing election in the country.

But since all this mess have started, many people are suffering, and I as a person have no hold the new fiat Note because I can't get a hold of one yet, and just because many stores prefer Cash than digital transfer, this have make me see how important Fiat currency can be.

Some people will say that Fiat is trash and they keep all their money in stable coins, the truth of this is you are doing things wrong, the stable coins in crypto space are backed by nothing, they can vanish into thin air if the government doesn't want stable coins to exists.

I believe that all stable coins are easier to trample on by the government, more than other crypto projects in this space, Fiat has it's usefulness, let's stop deceiving ourselves, the first time I ever purchased Bitcoin I use Fiat and I believe this is the same as everybody on here, unless you mine your own Bitcoin or get paid in Bitcoin working online.

Do not trash Fiat yourself when it's actually needy, crypto and Fiat must co-exists until the government decide to go digital with Fiat themselves, and Fiat is not trash.
You are quite correct about what is going on or has been going on with the situation of fiat availability with the notion of what the Government thought it would solve in relation to the Election, but today March 01, 2023, and the result of the Presidential election has been announced, would we say that the aim of the President and CBN president was met? I had to say no cos the person they were targeting still won the election and the citizens were just put through hardship for nothing.
That said, Fait will continue to be very important in the everyday life of the people regardless of its inflationary nature until we get to that point when we have the everyday stores or market traders get to the point of wide use of online transactions (digital) which was the problem for most citizens these past weeks, fiat will always be the fall back financial currency. 


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