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801  Economy / Economics / Re: El Salvador has just bought it’s first 200 coins on: September 08, 2021, 07:42:02 AM
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El Salvador president Nayib Bukele confirmed Monday that his government has purchased its first 200 Bitcoin (BTC) ahead of today, the Sept. 7 rollout of a new law set to make the cryptocurrency legal tender.

“Our brokers will be buying a lot more as the deadline approaches,” Bukele said, referring to the Sept. 7 timetable for fully implementing the new BTC legislation.

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/el-salvador-purchases-first-200-btc-president-bukele-confirms

"Analysts at the Bank of America recently outlined at least four potential benefits, said El Salvador’s decision to recognize BTC as legal tender could streamline remittances, promote financial digitization, provide consumers with greater choice, and open up the country to American firms and digital currency miners."

I believe in totality, President Nayib Bukele has done a lot of good for the country and the citizens and the lots that are still against it will catch up later once they see what Bitcoins investment will bring to the country.


Very bullish news but the market says otherwise. The market hit 52K then drop fro 46K in just an hour. This big step for El Salvador will not just improve their country but could potentially change it for a better. I could see that many investor would take advantage with this and possibly foreign investors would come. It will change your country forever and potentially change lives as well. A big step for Cryptocurrency era indeed.

Yeah, I believe we can guess why that is. I know that there have been some organizations that have been against this move about El Salvador making Bitcoin a legal tender and might want to see that fail, so no surprise that of all days, this drastic dip happened on El Salvador's Bitcoins Day. However, I believe that the President also took advantage of that too Grin by posting on Twitter that the nation bought the dip in bitcoin as the cryptocurrency plunged. I believe that Bitcoin adoption is here to stay In El Salvador regardless of all the hassle the country might face in the process and no doubt that is a very courageous move by President. 


802  Economy / Economics / El Salvador has just bought it’s first 200 coins on: September 07, 2021, 06:42:14 AM
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El Salvador president Nayib Bukele confirmed Monday that his government has purchased its first 200 Bitcoin (BTC) ahead of today, the Sept. 7 rollout of a new law set to make the cryptocurrency legal tender.

“Our brokers will be buying a lot more as the deadline approaches,” Bukele said, referring to the Sept. 7 timetable for fully implementing the new BTC legislation.

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/el-salvador-purchases-first-200-btc-president-bukele-confirms

"Analysts at the Bank of America recently outlined at least four potential benefits, said El Salvador’s decision to recognize BTC as legal tender could streamline remittances, promote financial digitization, provide consumers with greater choice, and open up the country to American firms and digital currency miners."

I believe in totality, President Nayib Bukele has done a lot of good for the country and the citizens and the lots that are still against it will catch up later once they see what Bitcoins investment will bring to the country.

803  Economy / Economics / Re: El Salvador retirees protest against Bitcoin as legal tender on: September 07, 2021, 06:12:50 AM
According to the news I have read was that 30% of El Salvadorians make use of bank, this is one of the reasons the bill to make Bitcoin a legal tender was proposed and accepted by the Salvadoran Congress.

The #BitcoinLaw has been approved by a supermajority in the Salvadoran Congress.

62 out of 84 votes!

History! #Btc

— Nayib Bukele (@nayibbukele) June 9, 2021
He said that accepting Bitcoin would be mandatory for all businesses. “They have to take it by law,” he said of merchants in the country. “If you go to Mexico, they have to take your pesos.

This would have been the cause of protests by some people that went against the bitcoin law. If bitcoin is accepted, it is by force that every business should accept it as a form of payment in El Salvador. I think the government should not go to this extent, they should let citizens to have their own opinion to make. Even if they accept Bitcoin as a legal tender, it should not be a compulsory form of payment, they should just only accept it as a legal form of payment which I think it is enough and not mandating their citizens to accept it as some do not want to. Bitcoin should give freedom, El Salvadorian government should also think about this before making compulsion move, Bitcoin is better to just be a legal form of payment and not more.

I believe what the El Salvador President is saying is that, since Bitcoin is now a legal tender in the country, Businesses do not have the right to reject it IF IT IS PRESENTED AS A PAYMENT. We understand that some businesses might want to reject it when it is used as a means of payment and we know some citizens will still continue to use the local currency if they are in possession of them but Businesses don't have to reject the collection of Bitcoin When it is presented for payment because businesses in other countries will definitely accept whatever is termed the legal Tender in that country.

804  Economy / Economics / Re: @Deloitte: "The fiat currency will be gone in 5 to 10 years". on: September 07, 2021, 05:58:08 AM
A time period like 5 years or 10 years is really short to witness fiat currencies just being gone. Someday, this will definitely happen. I haven't any doubt about it. FED is continuing to print money like it is nothing. But their action is very important in fact. As they print an amount of money which is more than needed, US dollar continues to lose its value against many other fiat currencies. If governments follow policies like this, fiat currencies can really be gone before the time even most people expected.

I totally agree with the timing given with regards to digital assets taking over Fiat currencies. I do however believe just like you that this might be Inevitable for a number of reasons now seeing how some countries' Fiat currencies are almost worthless but saying or thinking that this will happen overall within 10 years time frame is a bit of a stretch. So I am asking this question, Today Sept. 7 is the rollout of a new law set to make the cryptocurrency legal tender in El Salvador, does this mean that their Fiat currency will be totally abandoned? I guess time will tell with regards to the "Take Over" digital currencies V Fiat.   
805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Accumulation time is coming guys on: September 06, 2021, 07:50:28 AM
The more we touch a support level, the weaker the support will be. Accumulation time is coming guys. Additionally, which coin will you short? Me: I short coins that I want to accumulate
I don't understand if you have not been doing that Accumulation since back before 21 July, I believe you most have well missed out on some good opportunities to buy in at a better lower price.

Investors forget that it is better to buy when the price is going down or down than when it is going up even though I must agree that in Bitcoin investing, anytime can still be a good time to invest.

And talking of shorting, do you really think this market looks good for shorting?
806  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto is not limited till buying Bitcoins, it is beyond this. on: September 06, 2021, 07:31:08 AM
We saw threads where discussions sparked about how will the poor take the advantage of crypto and all of them limit their thinking to what will happen if BTC skyrockets. There were lots of great answers, but we have a different approach here in this matter. Even if the poor believe that they have missed the BTC train, why don't they spread their vision and look around?

We have:
+ NFTs (we know about one user who sold an NFT for $60k that he won for free - a life changing experience)

+ DeFi tokens (liquidity pools, staking, farming are all giving huge returns for small investors)

+ P2E (Play 2 Earn is another way to make money by playing games online and getting tokens or NFTs as rewards, some games have different types of rewards)
I don't think that people should think that they have missed the Bitcoin train because there is always an opportunity to make profits from investing in Bitcoin during different seasons. Even those that invested back in the early days didn't really believe that bitcoin will get to this level and more so now, investors have seen the opportunity that it is with investing in Bitcoin. I believe that, when investors start to see beyond the Immediate profits in investing in Bitcoin, they will always win. 
807  Economy / Economics / Re: Permanent residence in El Salvador for crypto entrepreneurs on: September 06, 2021, 06:52:04 AM
As we reported a few days ago, the President of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, announced during the Miami Conference that the country intends to accept bitcoin as a currency in the country. Now the 39-year-old has added to the appeal of his proposal on Sunday with his new remarks on Twitter. Bukele announced in his latest tweet that:
"The government will immediately grant permanent residency to crypto entrepreneurs."
Today, his proposal was approved by 62 official members of parliament against 19 votes against. Explaining the bill, Bukele added that the country is also proposing a new law to parliament that would allow anyone with a 3-bitcoin investment in the El Salvadorian economy to obtain permanent residency.
It is interesting to know that the official currency of El Salvador is the US dollar. About a quarter of El Salvadorians live in the United States, and last year they sent more than $ 6 billion in remittances despite the Corona epidemic.
Nayib Bukele acknowledged that the move was aimed at creating jobs and providing employment opportunities for thousands of people who now operate outside the country's legal economy. He noted that 70 percent of the population now does not have a bank account and operates in an informal economy.

Source: Yahoo News


Anyone from El Salvador can give any feedback about living costs and living situation in this country?

I believe tomorrow the 7th of September is the big day With El Salvador’s Legal Tender Plans in Sight, Will Bitcoin Break $60K?] the President of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, and the country, in general, is proving that this can be done, that Bitcoin can be adopted as a legal tender even though there might still be some hurdles and we understand that another south American country like Panama is also considering the move for Bitcoin adoption.
Investing 3 Bitcoins about $150,000 at the moment by foreigners is going to be a big economic bust for the country.
808  Economy / Speculation / Re: What make people panic sell? on: September 05, 2021, 05:57:10 PM
We saw the past from $10 to 60k is going up and up. So it sure it will reach $500k next destination.
But why the hell people panic sell now after it reach this high amount?
Do people really still think it goes to 0?

There soulnd't be any sale presure given the history that we see Bitcoin only going up in value
I don't think it is about the price of Bitcoin going to Zero (0). Even the people that are calling that the price might go to 0 knows it will not but are just causing FUD that naive Investors are falling for and selling their cryptos for the same people causing the FUD to Buy up. Think about it, where are the Cryptocurrencies been dumped going to? of cause people are buying them up and those are the ones that understand the market.
809  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto P2P Scam on: September 05, 2021, 05:47:31 PM
I read a story, on this very forum, of a Pakistani Guy, who was picked up by authorities for trading in crypto. I also had gone through such a time where i almost landed in trouble. So let me share my story so that you guys can avoid such mistakes.

Note: Pakistan, don't allows banks to do crypto related transactions, so its P2P.

It was around August 2020, i posted buying/selling ads on a few trading exchanges. And in that i also posted my contact Number(mistake 1). A person(probably Nigerian) contacted me from an international number using watsapp on my cell and asked me that he wanted to trade with me and that he has some kind of business, and that his team would send me payments and i would have to pay him in bitcoin/ethereum against that payments.
I without much investigation, agreed to work with him, as i was just considering my commissions. As it was decided 10%, which is quiet good for me so i didn't wanted to investigate his line of work.

People used to submit money in my account, and then sent him the receipts, he then watsapp me those receipts and i believing that as he has the receipt, that guy who has sent money actually works with him. So it was good for me.

Soon, i start getting payments in PKR rupees from all over Pakistan, and i kept sending bitcoin to this guy. But i got suspicious and started to worry as i wasn't much aware of his busines but kept doing it for around 2 weeks.

But will all this, i discussed it with my brother, and he told me to stop doing this Bitcoin stuff as he is not much aware of it and also not interested.

Anyway, i told this guy that i dont want to work, and i asked him about his business and some other details.. Things starting heating up between us.
The next day, i got a call from a person, and he said that he is going to FIA as he sent money in my account(which he had) and that my other partner who had a deal to send IPHONES to him against the payment(that he sent in my account) is now not receiving his calls and not responding. He said that me and that guy are a scam and we both have done fraud and that he is going to take me to courts. I talked to Nigerian guy and asked him to send me the Bitcoin back so that i can refund that guy and avoid going behind the bars but he replied that its ur and his matter. Do whatever you want..

What actually happened was, This Nigerian guy, was doing online scams, making people believe that he'll send cheap products. So people when talked to him, he gave them the banking accounts of their local countries, of people like me. through which, he got the payments and never sent any thing to the people he promised. And it was between me and the people who sent payments to my accounts to deal with each other.

The victims were,
1. the people who by greed believed in him as the products he showcased were pretty cheap. And
2. Crypto traders like me, who by greed and better trading profits, didn't investigated much. and started paying him for the money received from third person.

Suggestion: Don't do trade for 3rd person. Only send bitcoin to the person who send you payment in your account.

 Grin Grin Grin I am sorry to say, but your story sounds bogus to me. First, you dint provide the WhatsApp number the so-called (Nigerian Guy) was calling you with cos you must have had the number right? and how did you even conclude that he is a Nigerian? You said you were getting payments in PKR rupees from all over Pakistan,, and you also said " he gave them the banking accounts of their local countries, of people like me. through which, he got the payments" are you a Nigerian too? Also, you never provided the Bitcoin wallet address you sent all the Bitcoins.
At least you did agree that you were greedy in this whole shady business you both were involved in because even you know the percentage he was given you was high and you decided to roll with it. I hope you did learn your lesson.

I have been dealing with p2p a long time and I know you cannot place a sell order if you don't have the number of crypto assets for that amount and once the buyer has made payments and confirmed, crypto assets are released. I think investors should consider the type of exchange they deal with.






 
810  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is only new to the newbie on: September 05, 2021, 05:19:43 PM
I am still not surprised that many people leaving in this era still don't know about Bitcoin or digital currencies. I was discussing with some one about bitcoin and it's achievements over the years and how this past few years has gained massive ROI for investors and he was so concerned about how people got scammed using online platforms giving negative attributes to Bitcoin to him bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme.

Many still find it difficult to accepting this digital era because of their past experience with internet fraudsters and looters who made many bankrupt when ponzi was introduced. How do you think this stigma can be dealt with and how do we get people out of this so the don't get left out due to their FUD letting them settle on their negative notion about crypto generally would only make them aggressive with crypto investors and would still see the world the way men in the 80s saw it with lots of limitations
The thing to me is, I don't believe we can convince everyone to Invest in Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies in general even if those people have never been scammed in any way via internet scams or fraud. The human race is wired differently and people will approach investments differently. Some people already know about bitcoin and not having negative feelings towards it but still won't invest in it just for their own reason. I believe we should know that not everyone will invest in Bitcoin or accept it even with the continuous prove of success.   
811  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODL vs Staking, What is the best strategy? on: September 05, 2021, 05:06:03 PM
Do you guys ever hear about holding bitcoin in staking platform?

If yes, can you give any advice to stake bitcoin on staking platform?

I've been asking for many times about it, but I need proof experience of you. Please share below!



Well, HODLing has quite been the option for me with regards to my crypto investments but I am not that much a fan of staking especially when it comes to other third-party staking sites. I did stake some coins I bought some times ago on the same projects site and those were locked for a period of time and I happen to miss the profits when the price got really high but overall, I really don't like staking but will rather just HODL my crypto assets till I am comfortable with my market position.   
812  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [Signature Campaign] GoMeat 🚀 Empowering The Specialty Meat Industry 🚀 ICO on: September 05, 2021, 04:30:16 PM
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813  Economy / Economics / Re: If you can get paid through cryptocurrency, do you still choose fiat currency? on: August 09, 2021, 06:36:55 AM
As a trader, I still choose fiat currency If you can get paid through cryptocurrency. Because of the acceptance through traditional money I will be able to purchase cryptocurrency from the convenient stage through my saved money market analysis. In my opinion, this will make it possible to make more profit and increase the number of total assets. Due to the volatility of cryptocurrency prices, it seems more reasonable to accept traditional money if you have the skills and experience to invest it at the right time.

I hear you and people will always say this about crypto trading and of cause if you do know how to trade and can get in and out at the right time. I do also like what @nicecrypto is highlighted here
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Bitwage is a platform that converts wages into cryptocurrency. Bitwage founder Jonathan Chester said: “A lot of people now want to earn part or all of their wages through Bitcoin.” The company has made contributions in the United States, Europe, Latin America and Asia this year. 20,000 employees. Some users processed $30 million in salaries, including employees from Google, Facebook, General Electric, Philips, the United Nations, and the U.S. Navy. Many of these employees have signed up for this service themselves.

Chester stated that he converts 15% of his monthly salary into virtual currency, which is "a way to not worry about whether to buy or accumulate bitcoin or cryptocurrency at the right time."


Many companies are also considering allowing their employees to choose to receive partial or full compensation in the form of cryptocurrency. If you can get paid through cryptocurrency, which one would you choose? If the boss pays in Bitcoin, would you want it? Or you continue to prefer to pay in fiat currency to facilitate the purchase of tokens you like.
Do you think cryptocurrency payment will be a new trend in the future?
I would definitely like to be paid in part with crypto because that would be easier than collecting my salary in fiat and then try to buy some crypto from it again which will attract some fees from my investments also  Grin  
People can just use that form of crypto investment as a means of monthly cryptocurrency accumulation which I think is a good way to monthly DCA or whichever pattern your salary comes in.
DCA is one of the best crypto investment methods that has been talked of by most crypto enthusiasts and if this is what it seems like to me by taking part payments with crypto as a salary.

814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you invest in TRC20 tokens on: August 08, 2021, 02:32:58 PM
Everyone knows that many have invested in ERC20 tokens from the Ethereum platform, but do you intend to invest in TRC20 tokens from the TRON platform, if "YES" what token did you buy and please include the reason as well.
I don't think that I have ever invested in any other coin or token on TRC20 other than Tron itself but I do use TRC20 stable coins for transfer in some cases when it is available along with ERC20, so I will use TRC20 because obviously, it is cheaper and faster. There is another project I am hodling at the moment that is also on the TRC20 network, just like someone said, if the project is good, the network might not matter.
815  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Number of altcoins keep increasing! on: August 08, 2021, 05:23:43 AM
I see alot of altcoins and tokens been introduced into the market every day and I keep wondering if that is how this industry will keep growing.  The number of altcoins does not translate to increase in the over all market capitalization of the cryptocurrencies market and it that means that some of the coins we currently have in the market is not needed!
Well, this might continue to happen in the market but some of such non-relevant Altcoins that have been created before will also die of the market while new ones are been create. If the new Alts that are being created have a purpose to the market, they will certainly bring value as investors will definitely want to invest but if not, they wouldn't bring any value to the market.
816  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens to the coins after your death ? on: August 08, 2021, 05:08:00 AM
I am trying to figure out the best way to give that information to my loved ones, without giving them the information first before I die. Is it cheap to rent out spaces where you can store notebooks with passwords on it. I don't even think these kinds of establishments exist. Put everything in a notebook and then just leave it in a pile of your personal documents, waiting for them to see once you are gone. I think that is they only way. Specify that it is cryptocurrency so they should find someone with the know-how and retrieve those coins.
I think that is one of the best ways to go about it. I do understand that some people are uneasy about giving out this kind of information thinking that some family members might even turn against them because of what they believe they can get from it but somehow there must be a trusted person in your life that you can share such information with. 
817  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we get another golden oppurtunity to buy? on: August 07, 2021, 05:41:24 AM
I don't think we will get a golden opportunity anymore. If we look at Bitcoin, we can see that Bitcoin is between 30 thousand and 40 thousand dollars. Bitcoin currently exceeds 43k $ Exceeding.I think the price of Bitcoin will not come below 30k $ so we will not have a golden opportunity to buy Bitcoin.
Right, this is why people will continue to miss out on a great opportunities when they present themselves because of greed. When Bitcoin fell to around $28k people were still hoping for it to drop to $20k or even lower, I guess those people have missed that opportunity to buy at that price. People can easily forget how quickly it can turn around for Bitcoin, Currently trading at $43k+ and looking like it can hit the old ATH in a couple of weeks.
818  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm now all in BTC. All eggs in one basket! on: August 07, 2021, 05:33:12 AM
Although that everyone has their own opinion, putting all eggs in one basket isn’t a good idea for me. It reminds me of my conversation with my sister that she wants to go all-in on Bitcoin by putting all of her savings into it. But I told her not to, and only put an amount that she could afford to lose.

Coz’ if we go all-in and if BTC goes down, it would be hard for our emotions to cope up. Instead of going all-in, much better to diversify our money like putting most of it on savings, and only invest a portion of it on Bitcoin and other altcoins.
It's really risky when we put all our eggs in one basket, Bitcoin is good but no one can predict what will happen in the future.I also hold bitcoin but not all.My money invested in crypto is idle money and I'm fine if unfortunately bitcoin dies.
I hear what you are saying and I don't think I have any problem with what the OP did with regards to the Cryptocurrency investment. I believe he was referring to his investment in crypto and not his total life asset which I might do also with my crypto investment because if Bitcoin will die then any other investment in crypto I believe will be useless as well so, the safest place if you were to go All in 1 would be Bitcoin even though I will like to diversify my portfolio. 
819  Economy / Economics / Re: Have you been grateful for today? on: August 06, 2021, 11:47:42 AM
I just opened Facebook and read a short, but meaningful post. in the post it says

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A mountain of gold would not be enough for a greedy person.
But, a plate of food is enough for a grateful person


I ponder when I do daily trading in the crypto market, I often get profit even though it is not too much, But I am always annoyed and irritated if the profit I get is not on target. I forgot to be grateful and hopefully, I can be a grateful person even though I get a little profit from crypto trading.


I guess that is the problem with most cryptocurrency investors or traders now. We no longer want to see the little profits as anything unless we are making 50x-100x and it is that greed that has made a lot of investors lose more investment than gains. The more you appreciate all the little profits you get, the more you will be patient with your trade and the market conditions even in a bear market.
820  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin wasn’t created to make you rich. It was created to make you free on: August 06, 2021, 11:38:32 AM
My thoughts is that bitcoin is just a medium to help you become rich or financially stable, in the end you are the one that needs to utilize those tools given to you, what I mean by that is you do have bitcoin but you don't know what to do next so you are just stuck into hodling only which isn't helpful if you want to get financially stable. I do agree that bitcoin can return the power back to the working class but we all know that bitcoin is for everyone so even the ruling class can get in like what they are doing now.
Yes of cause the ruling class is getting into cryptocurrencies as well but with the lower and middle classes into cryptocurrency, it will definitely save as a means of freedom for them too and not totally dependent on the higher class in the society. Cryptocurrency has really helped people regardless of the way you are trading it as long as you are doing it right.
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