I don't know what Viceroy's deal is. I've supported POT from day 1, and held a megaton of pot at one point until I sold off to pay some bills. I continue to stick around. Myself and others have asked Viceroy what his problem is. He accuses folks of dealing illegally, but admits to setting up the largest distribution center. He's contradicting himself left and right, and all he's doing is pointing fingers at people and making threats.

Above is something he just sent me in PM, because I challenged what he said, asking why he has an issue with potcoin.

Food for thought moderators. This guy is out of control and has been put on ignore by several folks in this thread.

edit: Member is now on ignore.

More like never.. haha. If that's the situation, 3-4 months until system building and testing (of low quality/variance chips), that's horrible. If that is the situation.

Maybe someone with business credentials could email Drexel and offer money to buy out the design, especially if AT can't make payment, Drexel probably wouldn't mind doing it. Which would prove where AT's situation lies.

Maybe I should make some calls to friends haha.

You sure seem to care.

And why does it matter to you?

Also, bitcoin is being used for _all sorts_ of things. Why aren't you blowing up BCT about it?

You sound like a washed-up narc honestly.

Haha, oh man. This guy. I don't need the comedy channel, I can just tune into ViceRoy's messages.

Letme setup an RSS feed.

Yes, thank you for underscoring the point..

Considering pot is illegal in the majority of the country, what does it matter? They're establishing a framework. It just sounds like your panties are in a bunch for some reason. And what if they wanted to be silk road 3.0 (2 already exists), so what?

Maybe they are working on the Apostle's version of "soon". The Apostles in the Christian scriptures said that the final end was going to be soon. It's been 2,000 years.

That alone is all a sensible person needs to see in order to ignore everything else.


+ Infinity.

Yes, that I understand, but confirmed is what has been locked in place. I've lost 25% of my confirmed reward in a week. That doesn't add up.

I see some folks have been having issues. I'll toss my 2cents in, my confirmed reward has dropped twice in the past week. What's the deal? I'm now lower than I was a week ago. May as well not even be on the pool.

Reality Check for some:

* America is not the world's Golden Standard for everything.

* The FDA is not the Golden Standard in the Westernized world, in fact most countries disagree sharply on several points of American medicine and medical views, especially their psychology

* The FDA has been known to approve known carcinogenic ingredients, and many EU standards are much more refined and safer than FDA's

* The FDA allows self-certification and only requires up to 90 days of statistical testing for most products which is, scientifically, very poor to determine long-term side effects (most consider 18-36 months better)

* Anyone believing the FDA is the bombdiggity is definitely smoking some good stuff

* Medicine =/= Herbal Remedy

* No 2 whiskies are the same, ergo 2 shots of whiskey =/= medicine in use (sidenote, is whiskey in the medicine manual?)

* Synthesized marijuana =/= marijuana

* 2 joints can be made within a tight yield, using scientific methods of growing and measuring the control groups. So if you really wanted to be anal, you could say 2 joints can be dosed the same.

* Medicinal dosage is typically based on weight, age and other factors, which is why it's prescribed by a doctor

* This is a Potcoin thread, if you have an issue with a vendor take it to PM

You don't understand basic math, do you? Sure, it's a matter of time. A lifetime. At 0.15% trade fee (mintpal example), it would take over 800,000 BTC volume to recoup 1,200. Do you think they're going to operate for free that whole time? No, they have bills to pay. So then presume 0.05% to go back to their repayment pool. Now it takes 2,400,000 BTC volume to fix that.

And how much BTC is being traded in 24 hours globally? Not that much! If CryptoRush had all of the trade volume globally, it would take over 100 days. Realistically, it'll take a lifetime.

This doesn't account for the tens of thousands of other coins which 'went missing' also.

The original day 0 terms specified July 2014 for delivery, and specified they'd have working prototypes prior to that. Since then, their design has changed almost 75%, and they haven't met any of their projected milestones. Intent plays a role, and you likely couldn't prove malicious intent, but you could prove negligence. It's how BFL has been sued. So you could bring them to court on negligence in the US, not sure if the UK has similar laws.

I can't speak to the new preorders, but GAW has successfully provided great products.

Another thought which came across was, I wonder if their company is insured? If not, that could be disastrous for folks.

Pure speculation: They get their equipment together finally, and because they're in a less-than-savory neighborhood, something happens and all of the equipment is "stolen". They're left without a product. Without insurance, they can't pay anyone back. And their doors close.

Searing, BFL has been successfully sued numerous times, 25 or more. There's a couple of threads on here which contain the links to the court cases. It's just not well published because BFL does a good job with avoiding the blacklight, and lots of people don't dig deep enough. The Neptunes finally shipped, but you have to admit that despite needing specific power supplies (which was a known factor prior to pre-ordering), they run well. And they run faster than spec. The Titans I'm sure will be similar.

As to the T&C, in few cultured civilizations is it legal to have a term which says the OEM is free from neglect or products outside of spec. I forget the actual legal clause, but you can't tie someone's hands like that. It's not legal in the US, and the UK's consumer laws are even tighter than the US's. Further, imports and customs requirements dictate that the product fall in line with the country's laws in which it's being imported. This is why a new OEM setting up for global shipping is under a lot of scrutiny to get things right. It's another reason why AT has come under such focus, because a lot of folks are going "yeah, that won't pass".

That's part of why the CE process is so vital, it shows that yes, this product is within spec. They didn't even talk about certification until weeks after it was brought up.

I don't believe they opened with malicious intentions, but they became overwhelmed because they were poorly prepared. Then again, who knows with how shifty they've become lately.

They can't pay back the losses, how would that be possible? And this has been covered before, there's no evidence of a hack, only evidence of staff moving coins manually, and then disappearing. That's why there's so much fuss to begin with.

I think the price is very artificial right now, and there have been some unusual dumps too. It can be taken any which way, but my gut says people are trying to keep it low right now to buy it up. Because fairly soon, the difficulty is going to go up a notch. And then when KNC delivers it's going to blow off the charts.

The market cap of LTC isnt a good determination of if new equipment is a good idea or not. Folks were mining BTC with GPU's and CPU's when it wasn't worth anything. It may impact ROI, but that's just a may which is short-term, and even then the gold-strikers have to risk something.

When I looked earlier this week, they had put a 5U render on the site. But you know what gets me, their power design requires an external PSU. So in addition to the unit of the machine, now you have to deal with rack displacement for PSU's nearby the systems.

At least it's not like they've changed 4/5ths of the design they originally sold people, after taking money from people.

Oh wait.