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461  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Bitcoin Casino | Plinko, Mines, Blackjack, Roulette + 8 more 👽 on: November 10, 2017, 04:22:49 AM
Stake.com without a doubt is the best casino I've ever encountered. The game has an awesome graphic and the plinko also has a replay action! And the best part? Instant withdrawal Cheesy

No wonder because it is from primedice developer which they manage primedice before with a great feature and they already know what the best for primedice. Now they make it better to the new site Stake, actually I do not really like their plinko games like you guys said because there is other better one but for other games, this is really best of the best site ever, it has good and simple design too

Thanks! More to come!

any plan to launch PvP games ?

We used to have PvP version of the site but it wasn't very popular. We have come up with a new idea that may float. You can check our forum for sneak peaks.

Could you link it to me please ?

Has not existed in some time, was a PVP dice roll game for Primedice. Adding PVP games is definitely an objective for us just not a top priority.
462  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Segwit2x cancellation discussion on: November 09, 2017, 06:45:42 AM

Segwit2x seems unacceptable, which is why the BTC goes to the moon?

BTC already went up a lot now looks alt coins turn.

I disagree. For a long time I was debating whether or not Bitcoin would be THE cryptocurrency and now I'm certain it will unless something drastic happens. As the distance between Bitcoin and the alt coins increases it will attract the majority of the money, talent & interest needed to propel it forward. The cancellation of Segwit2x gives both sides of the debate a chance to work together to find a reasonable compromise to scale bitcoin and that may or may not be a sidechain or blocksize increase.

As much as I was against Segwit2x I have no ill feelings towards the parties involved as the agreement behind it is probably what helped us get Segwit in the first place. Calling it off was a mature move and shows there is some sanity in this space. Although.. I was looking forward to swapping away my segwit 2x coins Wink
463  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 20 Billion Bets | 111+ BTC Jackpot! on: November 09, 2017, 04:31:58 AM
Cool appreciate it. Another question is about the so called strategies I see on the primedice forum? I thought this was a simple dice game, how much strategy can actually be involved? I'm looking to make a few high stake gambles with the standard 49.5% odds. Wondering if I really need to look into "strategies" before getting started.

Here is the list of some strategies you can use with dicebot.
https://bot.seuntjie.com/Scripts.aspx
They can prove efficient in short term but in long term they all end in bust.

Appreciate the link. I guess my question is, if I only plan on making 2 or 3 bets, is there a point in using a bot or researching strategies? Basically I just want to roll the dice and see if I could double my coin. I lost $22,000 from trading bitcoin these past few days and want to see if I could recoup my losses. I have 3 bitcoin that I'm willing to bet and I basically am hoping to double my money. How do you recommend proceeding? Just throw it all in with one bet (50% odds)? Or setup several different bets?

Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, I sent a test amount to my primedice wallet (.049 BTC) with a fee of 20 sats/byte. Is it strange that I still haven't received it? I sent it 3 hours ago, transacation is in link below... I know fee was low but still seems like a long time to get 1 confirmation.

https://blockchain.info/tx/6255d7d0d5013a3594e757ccc8a81997a523446a94624dae69190ab078af43aa

On average people are attaching 10x the fee you attached so you're pretty far behind in the queue, it seems to be a significant wait :\

https://www.blockonomics.co/api/tx?txid=6255d7d0d5013a3594e757ccc8a81997a523446a94624dae69190ab078af43aa

I submitted your transaction to http://confirmtx.com/  not sure how well this works but it claims it can accelerate it to 2-5 hours. Now that segwit2x has been defeated Smiley I believe support for segwit addresses will quickly begin to accelerate and we are going to look into implementing.
464  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Bitcoin Casino | Plinko, Mines, Blackjack, Roulette + 8 more 👽 on: November 09, 2017, 03:03:46 AM
It seems we've resolved the Ddos issue that has been causing occasional slowdowns the past few days. Speeds should be back to normal, let us know if you are still encountering lag.

Hey.

I've experienced a "bug".

On "Mines" Game, if i use this settings: https://prnt.sc/h81zby on automated betting, if the Bet Amount reached 0.00000001 (minimum) and i win the round (increase of -50%), it will go to 0.00000000BTC. But it keeps betting normally even if it's a lose or a win and the bet amount doesn't change (obviously because it's 0), but still i think it shouldn't go below 0.00000001 BTC. What you think?

Anyway, i enjoy the concept and the layout.

If you bet larger amounts you won't experience this edge case. It's difficult to deal with fractions of one satoshis without rounding visually but in the end the back-end is more accurate than the front-end but we aren't going to display more units by default when we're talking about a fraction of a fraction of a penny worth. When each Bitcoin is $10,000,000+ we'll have to reconsider Wink .
465  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Bitcoin Casino | Plinko, Mines, Blackjack, Roulette + 8 more 👽 on: November 09, 2017, 02:02:35 AM
It seems we've resolved the Ddos issue that has been causing occasional slowdowns the past few days. Speeds should be back to normal, let us know if you are still encountering lag.
466  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 20 Billion Bets | 111+ BTC Jackpot! on: November 09, 2017, 01:45:55 AM
Just signed up for an account and really like the site so far. Only problem is the chat isn't working... I see everyone else's messages but mine don't appear. Do you need to be a member for a certain period of time?

If you wager a small amount you'll be able to chat. It's just something put in place to prevent spam & abuse
467  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | Most Popular & Trusted | 111+ BTC Jackpot! on: November 07, 2017, 05:33:00 AM


Bit late to post this but thanks for the continued support! Very excited about this one:)
468  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Bitcoin Casino | Plinko, Mines, Blackjack, Roulette + 8 more 👽 on: November 07, 2017, 04:51:46 AM
Nice site, I was able to cash out well over my deposit instantly with no issues. My biggest complaint is the games often freeze up after I hit bet (but haven't had any money lost to this), sometimes the chat doesn't load, and chart bet auto cashes me out at 1.1 to bad latency. I don't have connectivity issues anywhere else lately, 250 down internet, so I can only assume its bad routing with NA from wherever your servers are hosted.

Another annoyance is the site isn't very high-roller friendly. If you bet or win enough to show on the high roller tab, you get a bunch of chat callouts, friend requests and messages from people who want to congratulate you on the nice hit (but really they are fishing to be tipped). Sometimes you want to just play and not be bothered, some better privacy options would be nice.

Got it. Appreciate the feedback! You can disable PM's from non-friends under account settings and hide your wagered/profit stats but we'll be adding better settings to hide your name from the bet feed as well! With regards to the chartbet issue this was an issue caused by Ddos which we're properly resolving now.

Stake.com without a doubt is the best casino I've ever encountered. The game has an awesome graphic and the plinko also has a replay action! And the best part? Instant withdrawal Cheesy

No wonder because it is from primedice developer which they manage primedice before with a great feature and they already know what the best for primedice. Now they make it better to the new site Stake, actually I do not really like their plinko games like you guys said because there is other better one but for other games, this is really best of the best site ever, it has good and simple design too

Thanks, appreciate the warm review. We're adding a really fun feature in a week which will be unique to bitcoin gambling sites. We're going to be able to reward loyal players much more heavily than faucet.
469  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 226 on: November 06, 2017, 03:16:21 AM
1 @ 1.05
470  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 226 on: November 02, 2017, 06:03:18 AM
2 @ 1.02
471  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcasino.io doesn't credit my deposit on: November 02, 2017, 05:54:36 AM
I frequently call out bitcasino for abusing players. But to be fair you accidentally sending coins to a three year old deposit address that may or may not exist is not bitcasino's fault. That being said they possibly have access to the wallet, if they do they should return the funds to you. You may need to contact someone higher up beyond support if they aren't being helpful.
472  Economy / Gambling / Re: The Crypto Gambling Foundation will be calling out fake "Provably fair" sites on: November 02, 2017, 05:35:52 AM
Is not absolutely true. For example, BitDice does not have [Nonce] part, we show [Server Seed Hash] prior the bet, generate random [Client Seed] on the client and show the [Server Seed] after the bet.

http://prntscr.com/h4pi2f

This method gives few advantages:

1) If the server was compromised hacker can get an advantage over only 1 next bet. ( This prevents the case that happened with PD )
2) The casino doesn't know about future player outcomes.

Regards,
Alex.

Your method is absolutely provably fair, and certainly does have advantages (like I think it's the best way to build an API) -- but it's very suboptimal from a users point of view. Realistically it's hard to get users to do the provably fair verification once, let alone for every single bet. Also with the nonce system even if a user doesn't record their server-seed hash (which, let's face it: almost all the time) once a person has made more than half a dozen or so bets (with the same seed) it doesn't matter as it wouldn't be possible for a malicious site operator to find collisions anyway.

I think the only way to make the one-seed-per-bet system really useful for users would be to provide a (small and easily auditable) browser plugin. The browser plugin itself should randomize the client seed (when a bet is happening) and itself verify the result of the bet (issuing an alert when it doesn't verify). The browser plugin should never advertise itself, so the site has no way of knowing if the user is using it or not.

That said, I do think it's just far better to use a nonced-based system.

Both described methods have negative consequences.  Utilizing an incremental nonce with an unchanging server and client seed prevents real-time verification of rolls, which is obviously useful to people placing a lot of automated bets.  This is, in my opinion, a major flaw.

The author of this thread states that the intent is to protect the average gambler.  The average gambler is not going to notice if a site selectively overwrites its client seed generation code.  The average gambler is not going to understand that a 14 digit numeric client seed, like what I just received from Primedice, makes precomputation attacks much easier.  Additionally, I highly doubt the average gambler cares or could even understand anything being discussed in this thread.

I don't mean to give the impression that this is a bad or misguided idea.  Honestly, as Primedice is a major part of this, I probably shouldn't comment on it at all.  Regardless, it's wrong to make people think that adding a nonce is some kind of magic solution to fairness.  I think this initiative would make more of an impact if they were to champion the idea of strong, user-generated seeds.  I also think that if this group is going to be calling out gambling sites, then perhaps it should call out sites that generate weak client seeds.  Perhaps sites should generate a client seed equal in complexity to the server seed.  For instance, Primedice generates a 256-bit server seed, I'd say they should strive to also generate a 256-bit client seed, rather than the ~40-bit client seed I've received.


You make some really good points. The nonce system isn't perfect, and has some major shortcomings such as requiring a seed change to verify as noted. That being said it is still significantly stronger than the quite popular new server seed and client seed pair per bet system.

Thank you for pointing out this shortcoming by PD. This is the whole point of all of this, to encourage an informed discussion that pushes all of us forward. Indeed this is something I will raise with our developers. Perhaps this is also an argument that there should be a 'standard' for provably fair cause otherwise one website can use ultra strong fairness and other sham fairness and still claim to be 'provably fair'. Maybe it's time to create a new term for a strong standard.

Our goal needs to be to simplify provably fair to protect the average gambler. When a normal player goes to the casino he's able to visually see that he can influence the result by 'cutting the deck'. Instead of just trying to teach average players this complicated algorithm we should try and find solutions that are equally fair yet simple. I've just put up a bounty here: https://forum.cryptogambling.org/topic/18-1-btc-bounty-improve-provably-fair/ 1 bitcoin reward for a fresh system which solves the complicated nature of provably fair, 0.1btc per user for small edits that simplify the system.

473  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on FreeBitcoins.com - Round 1 - 9 slots available on: November 01, 2017, 02:17:34 AM
9 @ .003
474  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 226 on: November 01, 2017, 01:49:43 AM
6 @ 0.87
475  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Bitcoin Casino | Plinko, Mines, Blackjack, Roulette + 8 more 👽 on: October 29, 2017, 03:18:16 PM


Halloween is here at Stake.com

Special halloween avatars available this week only!
476  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Bitcoin Casino | Plinko, Mines, Blackjack, Roulette + 8 more 👽 on: October 25, 2017, 10:18:10 AM
With regards to the bitcoin gold fork, we have no current plans to support bitcoin gold and we recommend withdrawing funds pre-snapshot if you support bitcoin gold to guarantee you receive it. Will screenshot balances at time of fork and will be watching to see how bitcoin gold develops.

I am still surprised how much publicity this coin has gotten already.

Basically everybody in the mining section is asking about it and its all over Reddit.

I think the coin gained popularity when they announced that the premine will only be 0.5% and it will be time-locked, so it will get distributed yearly.

Either way I still think its rushed but Bitfinex and other exchanges plan on listing it.

Bitcoin Gold codebase contains a private premine of 8,000 blocks (100,000 BTG) apparently. How long before this hits zero?
477  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Bitcoin Casino | Plinko, Mines, Blackjack, Roulette + 8 more 👽 on: October 23, 2017, 06:17:45 PM
With regards to the bitcoin gold fork, we have no current plans to support bitcoin gold and we recommend withdrawing funds pre-snapshot if you support bitcoin gold to guarantee you receive it. Will screenshot balances at time of fork and will be watching to see how bitcoin gold develops.
478  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | Most Popular & Trusted | 111+ BTC Jackpot! on: October 23, 2017, 06:17:12 PM
With regards to the bitcoin gold fork, we have no current plans to support bitcoin gold and we recommend withdrawing funds pre-snapshot if you support bitcoin gold to guarantee you receive it.
479  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Bitcoin Casino | Plinko, Mines, Blackjack, Roulette + 8 more 👽 on: October 22, 2017, 05:15:44 PM
i feel grat
user:lespabes

We gotta get some Stake t-shirts. Any other type of gear you guys would like to see?
480  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚖️ Crypto Gambling Foundation ⚖️ - Fair Gambling For All on: October 22, 2017, 05:07:31 PM
Hoping to get some more people on board. Current people signed up: Bustabit.com, bustadice.com, Stake.com & Primedice.com

We (mbet.io) would be happy to participate if you are looking at working with sportsbooks.  Is there anywhere I can get a look at the code of conduct, I looked but cant seem to find it.

Will consider putting together a proper code of conduct but prefer to keep things simple for this moment.

- Provide a fair experience [Provably fair, fair treatment of players]

- Maintain a flawless reputation

I've made a topic on the forum regarding suggesting more: https://forum.cryptogambling.org/topic/15-suggest-cgf-principles/


Could we know, what's kind forums will be present?

https://forum.cryptogambling.org/

It's my hope that we collectively can push each-other to do better, mediate major complaints and encourage the rest of the industry to improve practices.







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