I'm certainly NOT the Pope. I've been monitoring several threads at the same time and some of the users I've been adding into the list for the last couple of months may be wrongly put in there; but I follow my rules. Together with the usual sockpuppets of NLC, I've today added to the list dakota neat for breaking my 3 out of 3 provocative/insultive posts rule. Please update.
 
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Indeed, this is a valid point. Science is not perfect after all, BUT; it's adequate for us to be able to explain *some* of what's there. In mathematical terms, it's pretty much the same as one is trying to express infinity via 1/x, where x->0. In most cases, he has to figure out a large enough number to solve the respective equation. On the other hand, there are some people obsessed to find what the limit is!

It reminds me back in 1999 when I got first involved into a distributed computing network that was trying to find if the prime numbers are finite; the problem well known as "The Sierpinski Problem". Collective computation via internet networking (aka:distributed computing) was something that was a significant factor for me to get involved in the first place. I became a member of a team (namely, 17orbust) and start calculating away.

Later on, I decided to become a Physicist (on my 30s) because I discovered the magic of the Science behind it. Then became a Chemist & lately Biologist, trying to figure out what their limits are... You get my point...

As for the head hurting part, if anyone has the ability (or psychopathy) to follow this conversation up until now, there's only gain for him/her.
As Arnold Schwarzenegger once said: No pain, no gain.

The entropy of the Universe is (funnily) increasing; at least from our point of view of the Universe (remember, we're constantly accelerating!). To make it clear, we're heading to a Universe with maximum entropy and minimum chaos. The in between fluctuations of chaotic events are just the ripples of the waves on a "quiet" river that bumps over the rocks within. In essence, if we had a way to live forever (meaning we'd be able to observe the "end" of our Universe) everything would have been in an awkward "taxis" to introduce a Greek word to describe it.

The most philosophical question of all times though, would have been, if we're on a loop. We actually maybe are, but as a scientist, I can only accept whatever I can measure; so it's a possibility but not certainty. On the other hand, in QM there's no certainty at all; meaning that we can never be sure if we are able to observe ALL the possible "reality" but only a fraction of it (the one we actually observe). Here's a nice experiment that proves it:

http://www.gizmag.com/quantum-theory-reality-anu/37866/

The Anthropocentric model, could very well explain the abnormalities that are described above, but it's nothing but a philosophical theory and not a scientific approach. More here:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22630190-500-the-human-universe-does-consciousness-create-reality/

Last but not least, we need to be multi-scientists to construct a TOE that describes everything, which (again) even if it's formed, it can never be complete as the Goedel Theorem of incompleteness suggests...

And these are the words of John von Neumann (1963):

... there have been within the experience of people now living at least three serious crises... There have been two such crises in physics---namely, the conceptual soul-searching connected with the discovery of relativity and the conceptual difficulties connected with discoveries in quantum theory... The third crisis was in mathematics. It was a very serious conceptual crisis, dealing with rigor and the proper way to carry out a correct mathematical proof. In view of the earlier notions of the absolute rigor of mathematics, it is surprising that such a thing could have happened, and even more surprising that it could have happened in these latter days when miracles are not supposed to take place. Yet it did happen.

Often implemented as a reverse psychology assessment, one of the "tools" one can use in order to persuade somebody that he's wrongdoing [by NOT doing what he's been told], is to persuade him that "the people say so". Chances are most people do not understand that one of the most noteworthy "digital assets" of a political campaign manager nowadays is, well... Google.

The following article explains how this is possible, in a very clarified manner, by utilizing a contrivance that fully automates the aforementioned "trick" of "the people say so", but on steroids. On the other hand,  you didn't really expect that what you voted for, would've been what you were promised...

Right?

http://news.sciencemag.org/brain-behavior/2015/08/internet-search-engines-may-be-influencing-elections

Here's something that has been brought up earlier on this thread, but worth mentioning and clarifying further because it's essential for everyone involved to understand it fully:


What's at stake is that when we (as MtGox clients) sent our BTCs to their exchange, those BTCs are no longer ours. What we have instead is a licence agreement (or if you prefer, a "promise" of MtGox) that will give our BTCs back whenever we want to withdraw them out of there.

This is not limited to MtGox, but involves EVERY EXCHANGE out there. Meaning that every trader should be aware that whenever he has deposited his crypto on an exchange this crypto is *literally* not his. What we expect here, (more likely wish for) is our *possibility* of getting a fraction of our crypto. This should be considered equal to the possibility of us, not getting anything at all...

AUG 7 DIGEST: G7 Pledges Support for 'Appropriate' Bitcoin Regulation; Market Research Analyst Qualtrics Adds BTC Rewards

G7 representatives announced support for “appropriate regulation” of virtual currencies; online survey giant Qualtrics added bitcoin as a rewards option for consumers who respond to surveys issued by its enterprise clients, and more top stories for August 7.
The G7 representatives who met in Germany in June of this year announced support for “appropriate regulation” of virtual currencies. As can be read in the group's summit statement, the G7 aims to oversee digital currency activity in order to prevent terrorism financing, which it deems a major priority.

The group stated:
“We will take further actions to ensure greater transparency of all financial flows, including through an appropriate regulation of virtual currencies and other new payment methods.”

http://cointelegraph.com/news/115077/g7-pledges-support-for-appropriate-bitcoin-regulation-market-research-analyst-qualtrics-adds-btc-rewards

I post the above with no further comments. If you have something to add, please do.

This sir, is a very possible scenario. Yesterday's debate seems to unravel a glimpse of the things to come. A furiously delirious D. Trump that presented both the best and the worst of himself, outbursting the hoorays of TPTB Mass Media who are definitely willing to follow his agenda (because he's one of their own).

On your previous post(s) about women, I'd say that there's a common attitude that deliberately omits the basic role of (mainly) women in this world. This attitude is derived by their educational depth. The more someone (...and to generalize, no matter the gender) knows about science (and how the world functions), the less they want to raise a newborn child. Another factor to look forward to, is -of course- their wealth, religion and social conditions.

Within a fast indebting world, the next decades we're heading for a fast deterioration of the population of children that the most prominent couples would give birth to, and a fast rise of the children of the 'low-education' families who "they don't think". Essentially, this is a plan to expand the 80-20 rule towards a far less number for the 20%, practically eliminating the middle class population without war.

Oh, they already are, if you ask me:


I don't know if XMR fulfills your anonymity needs, but this time around, seems to be the best there is for most people. Besides, it seems to enjoy the warmth of the pockets of some of the strongest players within the BTC infrastructure.

Klee, out of curiosity, and by no means wanting to get out of subject, do  you own any of this?

Converting them to JPY could also lead the price of BTC down (because of their size). I'd expect an *evaluation* in JPY and (as we filled into the claim procedure) choose what we want to have (BTC/Fiat). Of course this is only wishful thinking...

Why is it SO obvious that the guy STOLE the BTCs? He has proven himself inadequate of handling even the simplest security standards when he was accessing MtGox's "cold" storage via VNC as a former employee of his wrote on reddit. In the (rare) case he actually stole them though, believe me, THAT many BTCs would have solved a LOT of problems of his before making newer ones... IF he had access to them of course

Fairly interesting read in the previous page. I do agree with both of you; my opinion is that you both agree in the same chapters but you're using different terms to describe them. On your last couple of comments:

1. ANY electronic device can be intercepted and/or hacked/disabled.
2. We're already "chipped" if you want my opinion, and we happily agree to. You know about basic networking and how the internet functions. Enough said.
3. America will have to change A LOT more than its politics in order to be on the right track again. Basically, I can't believe a man like Donald will be able to fulfill even the 1/10 of what he's claiming right now. TPTB won't let him. They don't want a bold country (no matter if it's the USA) that can stand on its feet. They need an indebted world which will they can easily control.

I've mailed Armstrong cnp what you wrote. Never got a reply.

Happily done it for you.

There's another thing that is at stake. "Politicians should have no children, and if they manage to damage the property of the people, their possessions should be taken away from them; and themselves should be expelled from the city."

We left those "minor" details out, for the sake of convenience.

Cheers.

As a Greek, I'm proud of being in the advantageous position to be able to read the original script of "Πολιτεία" of Plato. I wasn't always like that though. I remember myself at my early 20s into a library in Philadelphia. I met a guy there who introduced me to a script in ancient Greek in order to translate it to English for him. It was this:

"If you refuse to participate in politics, one of the penalties you will have to pay is to being governed by your inferiors"

Never understood why the best men available when they're involved into Politics they end up beaten and "parts of the system". That's the main reason I have no intention into getting in this position.

PS: The ancient script from what you posted above, in ancient Greek.

Σωκράτης: Μετὰ ταῦτα δή, εἶπον, ἀπείκασον τοιούτῳ πάθει τὴν ἡμετέραν φύσιν παιδείας τε πέρι καὶ ἀπαιδευσίας. Ἰδὲ γὰρ ἀνθρώπους οἷον ἐν καταγείῳ οἰκήσει σπηλαιώδει, ἀναπεπταμένην πρὸς τὸ φῶς τὴν εἴσοδον ἐχούσῃ μακρὰν παρὰ πᾶν τὸ σπήλαιον, ἐν ταύτῃ ἐκ παίδων ὄντας ἐν δεσμοῖς καὶ τὰ σκέλη καὶ τοὺς αὐχένας, ὥστε μένειν τε αὐτοὺς εἴς τε τὸ πρόσθεν μόνον ὁρᾶν, κύκλῳ δὲ τὰς κεφαλὰς ὑπὸ τοῦ δεσμοῦ ἀδυνάτους περιάγειν, φῶς δὲ αὐτοῖς πυρὸς ἄνωθεν καὶ πόρρωθεν καόμενον ὄπισθεν αὐτῶν, μεταξὺ δὲ τοῦ πυρὸς καὶ τῶν δεσμωτῶν ἐπάνω ὁδόν, παρ’ ἣν ἰδὲ τειχίον παρῳκοδομημένον, ὥσπερ τοῖς θαυματοποιοῖς πρὸ τῶν ἀνθρώπων πρόκειται τὰ παραφράγματα, ὑπὲρ ὧν τὰ θαύματα δεικνύασιν.
Γλαύκων: Ὁρῶ, ἔφη.
Σωκράτης: Ὅρα τοίνυν παρὰ τοῦτο τὸ τειχίον φέροντας ἀνθρώπους σκεύη τε παντοδαπὰ ὑπερέχοντα τοῦ τειχίου καὶ ἀνδριάντας καὶ ἄλλα ζῷα λίθινά τε καὶ ξύλινα καὶ παντοῖα εἰργασμένα, οἷον εἰκὸς τοὺς μὲν φθεγγομένους, τοὺς δὲ σιγῶντας των παραφερόντων.
Γλαύκων: Ἄτοπον, ἔφη, λέγεις εἰκόνα καὶ δεσμώτας ἀτόπους.
Σωκράτης: Ὁμοίους ἡμῖν, ἦν δ’ ἐγώ.


Read more: http://latistor.blogspot.com/2013/10/blog-post_2092.html#ixzz3hytNGGbq

There was an update to the binaries which incorporates several critical changes to the main program. You can learn more here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652305.msg12057526#msg12057526

and ask around for how to compile a new binary (or entrust someone who done it for you)... I'm not claiming this will solve your problem, but you can give it a try.

I begin to make my peace with this prospect... but I want to stay positive for an unexpected surprise (which will never come)...  

Following the 3 out of 3 rule of constructive / non provocative posts I've removed sAt0sHiFanClub from The List. Please update.

I don't understand people who say that the EU crisis "is over". Either they're ignorant or they live in a dungeon for the last decade. Fortunately there are some media that are actually saying the truth about how devastating things are.

Who’s Nexit?

As many as five other eurozone countries are flirting with trouble. Could one of them be the first to leave the common currency?

Which will be the next eurozone domino to fall? With Greece enjoying a temporary lull in its apparently permanent crisis, we can take a moment to look around its neighborhood at other candidates for trouble. There are several — and the euro’s future looks far from bright.

Greece ran into trouble mainly because it should never have been in the eurozone in the first place. Its governments couldn't balance their budgets, and its economic cycle was far out of sync with those of the eurozone’s leading lights. When Germany grew, Greece shrank, and vice versa. Using the same monetary policy in both countries made no sense at all.

What other countries in the eurozone might soon face this choice? To hear the credit-rating agencies tell it, the first in line are Portugal, whose government bonds are rated as junk by Standard & Poor’s, and Italy, which receives the lowest investment-grade rating of BBB-. Each country’s government is carrying a debt bigger than its GDP, something the IMF doesn’t expect to change any time in the next five years. Spain, whose debt-to-GDP ratio is below 70 percent but may rise in the coming years, is rated BBB.

Not far behind are Ireland, whose debt burden of 86 percent of GDP is supposed to decline rapidly now that economic growth has resumed, and France, at 89 percent, where growth rates may struggle to crack 2 percent in the coming years. Both of them receive reasonable grades from Standard & Poor’s — AA for France and A+ for Ireland, with AAA being the safest of all. [...]

https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/30/whos-nexit-greece-eurozone-piigs-spain-france-italy/

I totally agree, when SHTF the most remote place is the safest to be. I'd say that if you choose Andes (aka: high altitude) you'd better learn the food treatment processes as well as altitude sickness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altitude_sickness). Not everything is edible up there like you're used to and the aforementioned disease makes no exceptions for anyone (even fit athletes can get it).

Another thing to look out for is where the nuclear plants are located. Believe me following the 1/r^2 rule, you need to be as far as possible.


As for the guns/gunpowder, I wish luck to anyone who get as many as they can with them, after some months are passed. 

Very interesting post from Axel Merk... This is Gentlemen?  :

When volatility is low and asset prices rise, buyers are attracted that don’t fully appreciate the underlying risks. Should volatility rise, these investors might flee their investments, saying they didn’t sign up for this. Differently said, central banks have fostered complacency, but fear may well be coming back. At least as importantly, these assets are still risky, but have not suddenly become safe. When investors realize this, they might react violently. This can be seen most easily when darlings on Wall Street miss earnings, but might also happen when central banks change course or any currently unforeseen event changes risk appetite in the market.

Relevant with regards to my concern over a more severe correction is that it is complacency that drove the tech bubble to ever new highs in the nineties; and it was similar complacency that drove housing into the stratosphere ahead of 2008. Bubbles are created when investors have the illusion that there’s no or little risk with the strategy they are pursuing, bidding up asset prices.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-04/axel-merk-comes-out-bear

Returning on subject, here's a nice article for you to read:


Yeah, I've heard that somewhere before...


http://www.politico.eu/article/fools-united-over-greece-tsipras-merkel-grexit-schauble-eurozone-crisis/?utm_content=buffer1e38e